out of spending $500.00 for a fancy annealing rig!

Battery powered screwdriver of $24.00 rotates the case and it works like a champ!!

IMG_3372 by Sharps Man, on [bleep]

IMG_3372 by Sharps Man, on [bleep]

IMG_3370 by Sharps Man, on [bleep]

Not really.

Exactly. No way that is as easy or consistent as using the right tool for the job.

Maybe so, but you get the same results.

You fellows are akin to a guy that buys a new truck and turns out to be a lemon but he swears its best thing since sliced bread! You’re trying to justify your $$$$! I’ve used both systems and haven’t been doing it but for 60 years! Go head and buy your merry go round!!

It just depends on how much your time is worth. Saving time in the reloading process is usually a good investment.

Nope.

Maybe it's time to retire.

YEP!

I did....20 years ago!!

I can't see how that could give you any consistency between cases.

I'm just asking, don't flame me! LOL

If you held it the same distance from the flame for the same length of time wouldn't it be pretty consistent? With variations in brass I could see the results varying, but wouldn't that be true of any system?

Like saying a bicycle pump is as good as an air compressor. It may get the job done but their are better and easier ways to do it.

I too wondered about all the variables that could cause inconsistencies, but a Tempilstick might help. Maybe that's temp indicating paste in the neck?

But suddenly remembered some of the pics I've seen of Sharpsmans long range groups & quit wondering if there's anything he's doing wrong in that discipline.

I just hold the cases in my fingers and give them a rotation or so. By then it's done. Running them into the resizilng die you can feel the brass has softened.

No, it's not going to be as consistent as the fancy machine, but it works just fine.

I had been using a candle for a long time. Now that is kind of tedious. The torch puts the heat into that brass very quickly.

Deep well socket also works in a drill, used the same way.

yeah, the case holder set up sharpsman has is way too slow.
Did this before I bought a Benchsource

I use a Tempilstick also and if one can COUNT....my system works outstandingly well! And if you trim cases to length....you'll understand just exactly how well it works....rather than trying to trim work-hardened brass!!

I'm sure it works well. Just modify your method to the driver in a vise with a socket. Much faster.

Flame annealing is extremely dependent on the temperature of the gas cylinder. I’ve used a 20 pound cylinder and found that I had to adjust the dwell time each time I used the device if the temperature was different. If the cylinder was cold it simply would t make enough heat to anneal properly. Gas annealing is a hit and miss proposition.

This ^^^ When my fingers get hot, its done. Drop it in the metal coffee can.

kwg

That's how I do it, with a metronome ap on my phone too keep time.
I don't see how it could be any more consistent.

Only if you are a dumbfuqk

Kicking a dead horse here 100% but I kinda wanted to revisit this and get in my two cents.

Is Sharpsmans method a viable method? Absolutely. Brass is either annealed or it isn't. As long as the web isn't over heated and the shoulders/neck hit temp you're good to go.

But why in the F#$% would you wanna tighten a HOT collet on every piece of brass vs. using a socket and a pair of pliers?

Yet the guy who spends $500+ dollars is the idiot? LOL

But he's been doing it over 60 years and knows what's best...

LOL

The only dumbfuqk in this thread is the one who gets presented with the facts and is too stupid to recognize the truth. Just to help you out, that would be you.

Pop the casing out of the shell holder and pop a new one in...I don't see how it could be much easier? Maybe 3 seconds?

adam32,

The thing holding the shell holder twists so as not to let the brass fall out.

Ohhh...I couldn't quite tell what it was by the pictures.

The collet DOESN'T GET HOT!!

You guys would BITCH at Jesus H. Christ!!

You literally posted fishing for negative attention and are being a dick because you got it.

GFY

Well....if I were 'fishing' for a DUMBASS.....you've proved I've hooked one!!

Kaliforniforcation!! What more to expect!!

You can dig post holes by hand and many have done it for 60 years but it sure doesn’t beat a hydraulic post driver.

Pass the hydraulic post hole digger and driver for me please.

I don't care what I am doing, I am always willing to look at new ideas, and change if it makes sense

Hey sharpsman, please don’t recommend how to wipe your ass, we’ll really have a meltdown!! Haha 👊🏻

They’re all pissed off cuz they can’t shoot worth a s hit!!

I love these threads... and the post of the guys defending buying a fancy set up for hundreds of dollars to anneal brass...

My way, I just call Hillbilly Mechanics....

Got a free 7 gallon propane tank, because places won't fill it.. because it doesn't meet some regulation from somewhere...
hell I have no problem getting it filled in rural southern Oregon... which has been exactly twice in 14 years... and it wasn't exactly needing it..
propane prices were down so I threw in another 5 to 10 bucks of propane...

I was given a "Tree" to attach to it, by one of the Scouts in the Troop that was quitting... about 14 years ago also...

the milk crate it sets in was also free....

however the one big expense was the $6 I spent on a plumbers torch to put at the top of the " tree".....

I had multiple needle nose pliers I could apply to the job of holding the brass....within the flame.

Then I went over to walmart and blew another dollar buying a little galvinized decorative bucket, that I drop the warm brass in...

That is my system... I don't " quench it " in water... I just let it air cool...

Hold a 223 case upside down in the flame and count to 6.... or a 243 to 338/06 in the flame and count to 8... then drop it in the Walmart Decorative Bucket....

I use to anneal every 4th shot but have been doing it every reload for several years now....

it must be working OK tho.... brass life being 40 to 60 reloads is not really unusual, unless using real crappy name brand range pick up brass...
such as some of this crap made in the Phillipines... I only get about 15 to 20 reloads out of those.. like Win USA head stamp....

but since the brass was just range pick up stuff, I can live with that....

Originally I did try and just work to see how far I could push brass...

Took 10 rounds of Remington 223 brass, left on the ground courtesy of Oregon State Police...

55 grain FMJ bullets, ( $35 a thousand in those days).... 12.5 grains of Blue Dot ( so 500 rounds out of a pound of powder).. and this was under Bush, so primers were cheap... like $15 a thousand...The Blue Dot powder for the experiment ran like $12 a pound in those days...

Loaded those 10 pieces of brass, 100 times... annealed every 4th time.... neck sized until needed the shoulder bumped back, which was every 8th or 9th time on average...brass looked like crap due to over annealing.... but on a whim, I've reloaded them again here and there ( having saved them), so they are on their 115th to 120th reloads up to this point in time....still with 12.5 grains of Blue Dot....

and they will still hit a 300 yd gong with out much fan fare....

As Hank Williams Jr summed life up: Country Boys Can Survive.....

HillBilly Mechanics are working out just fine....and minus the propane, which goes a LONG WAY in this type of set up... I've used less than $20 worth of propane for ALL of my ANNEALING over the last 15 years....and I have $7.00 tied up into the rest of the set up....

Even the old needle nose pliers I have used all this time, to anneal 10s of thousands of pieces of brass, is surviving just fine also...beat those pliers are from the 60s.. if not before...

Who needs "much faster".... I'm not in a rush when reloading.... more mistakes happen at a Reload bench when people are in a hurry, than anything else....

Your [bleep] pic links are no longer live...

And your pic link name keeps getting bleeped!!