Anybody have any experience with this factory load from weatherby? I am shooting a weatherby vanguard 24" 1:10 twist. Ballistics look like it should work out to 500 yards using only the duplex reticle on my scope. Any experience before I drop $75 on a box would be appreciated. Don't even know if the rifle is a shooter or not.

I'd certainly bet on the rifle being a shooter. Didn't even know that they make the ammo. Guess it'd be fun to try it, but it's also good to know that their plain jane old 100 sp's work so well as a back up plan.

If you try them report back to us and let us know how they flew.

Best of luck to ya!

Dober

Will do, but it will be a few weeks.

My brother in law shoot the tsx not the ttsx
and man does it shoot
h has aa weatherby mark v with a muzzlebreak
i thought the 80gr was the 24 diameter
i know the regular tsx is 100 gr
he gets .75 group at 120 yds
we shot the rifle on saturday

The 80 grainer WILL be honkin' out of the .257 Roy. It should blitz thru the venison.

nut

I have a .257 Roy and shoot the factory 115gr BT's. Awesome grouping of .5" . I shot 2 deer with it so far one at 110 and the other 125 yard both DRT.

I have a Vanguard in 257 and am thrilled with it,mine is box stock except for a Timney trigger.

I have tried four factory loads,every one shot an inch or better at 100 yards for three shots.

The factory balistic tips shot right at half moa at 100 yards and were well under moa at 400 yards.

They shoot spooky flat,I use the main crosshair of the B&C reticle out to 400 yards and the second reticle at 500 yards. I could use a regular reticle with a top the critter hold at 500 and be fine. The rifle is sighted in about 2.75 inches high at 100 yards and is pretty much dead on at 375 yards.

It is not supposed to shoot this flat but it does,others here have reported pretty much the same thing.

Shoot the 80 grain ttsx if you like,but I can not imagine anything shooting flater than the 115 Balistic Tip or the 100 grain Spire Point. I use the 115s because they were a little more accurate and a little less affected by wind in my actual shooting with my gun.

The Vanguard in 257 is a super deal on a great hunting rifle.My buddy who reps for Weatherby tells me that on average the Vanguard in 257 is more accurate than the more costly Mark V in the same caliber.

I agree w/ ruraldoc. My .257 is a vanguard also and it's just plain accurate with the BT's. Let us know how the 80 grainers fly if you use them...I would be quite curious.

I'm getting more optimistic - seems to be a well regarded gun, if inexpensive. Trigger, crown and 8x40 screws being done right now. She'll get a leupold vari-x iii 3.5-10x40 duplex. Given how flat they shoot i don't feel the need for a turret or a ballistic reticle (yet).

Think I'm going to order a box of the 80gr TTSX and see how she does. I've already got a box of the 115 Ballistic tips. I'm afraid the 80 grainer may be a little short/light for a 10" twist but I guess I'll just have to try it and see.

Thanks for the feedback.

Mine is the stainless version not Sub MOA but the factory target measured .81". I swapped out the stock for a McMillan and the trigger was very good from the factory. Mine was shooting in the .4's with factory 110 Accubonds at 3400fps and in the .75's with the 115 BT's. I just got a new box of factory AB's and it seems to have opened up some. Still shoots BT's fine. Not exactly sure what the problem is just yet. May be the ammo. I got it back from a cerakote this am and am going to shoot it tomorrow or Friday. I have loaded up some 100gr TTSX so we will see. I also have 115 VLD's but I have not loaded any yet. You will love the gun. Excellent deal in a factory rifle.
Lee

I also have seen the positive side of my 100gr TTSX's way out there and have slain several bucks with the load. No need for turrets or special reticles as has been noted. If I were to practice more and felt I could hold steady enough from hunting positions to shoot further a turret or special reticle might have been warranted but when I can hold on hair out to my max limit of 500 I am happy enough.

Instead of laying down $75.00 for ONE box of only 20 rounds, why don't you spend about a buck fifty for an RCBS starter kit and roll your own?

PS what is the advertised speed of these pills? Gotta be near 4000fps.... intrigueing to say the least!

Weatherby Factory Load ballistics chart:

http://weatherby.com/_docs/Weatherby_catalog_ballistics.pdf

Makes me proud to own a 270 Wby...

Hmmmm??

I've got a box on the way. Hoping to hit the range in the next couple of weeks.

Not rolling my own yet as I keep hoping things are going to pick up at the office and cut into my shooting time, but I'm still waiting for that to happen.

Given the $ I've dropped on ammo this year for 300 wsm, 300 saum, 257 and 243 I definitely should be rolling my own.

That's one blessing I've noticed recently. While a bit pricey, one can still walk in and pick up Weatherby ammo about anywhere.

I've got the .257 Vanuard with a Timney I installed.
Still saving $ for scope.
(still paying hefty taxidermist bills from last year)

Severley torn b/t Leuppy w/turret or Zeiess 4-14 Conuest w/rapid Z 800 yd reticle.

I'm curious abiut deer loads in windy conditions.
I have a box of 100gr TSX's & cant't wait to get things rollin.

1 vote for Leupy

And 1 for Zeiss:)

I have the Zeiss on mine and the Leupy with cds on my .280 soon to be AI. I prefer the Zeiss so far. Mine is not the rapid z though.

Shot the 257 today. 115 BTs were a little over an inch. 80 TTSXs a little under an inch. Shot 4 groups total (2 of each - not much time). Temp was in the mid 90s. Third shot was always the one that grew the group as the barrel was very hot by the 3rd shot. (Didn't have nearly the time to shoot i would have liked.) Only shot at 100 yards, but these appear to be winners and have now become my favored 257 wby load.

Did you happen to clock them?

John

I didn't. Wish i had a crono...

You mind sharing your data for the 80gr TTSXs?

John

Posted this in the Reloading section too, but just in case any interested don't make it over there:

Shot some 80gr TTSXs today, but I didn't get the accuracy I was hoping for. Average was right at MOA. With both charges, two shot were nearly in the same hole, one was out. Have seen this in MANY rifles over the years, but have never found the reason or a cure.

72gr R22 averaged 3742fps
73gr averaged 3883fps

Wondering a little about the big jump in velocity with just one grain increase in powder. But the sun was bright and overhead, and my chrono has done some funny stuff in those conditions before.

Temperature was 100 degrees, and it took FOREVER for the barrel to cool after just three shots.

Hope this proves of some use...

John

Hondo, I rub the barrel with a 50/50 mixture of water and rubbing alcohol to cool the barrel down...works real quick. Just be sure to oil the barrel when you get home on Chrome moly barrels.

Also, I loaded for two custom 257 Weatherby's.

I loaded 71.5-72.0g of R@#22 with the 100g Hornady flat base.

I suspect that your load maybe perhaps be on the slower accuracy node, a higher velocity node is possible.

Also, I shot the 85g Nolser C/T bullet with AA3100 at 4130 fps. Send me a pm and I'll give you the load.

what does the recoil is the 257 wea. mag compare too?

thinking about getting or building one.

is it a good elk round?

A .270.

JW

Even though I like my .257 Roy, and am sure I could kill elk with it, I think the .270 or 7mm Roy would be better elk rifle choices.

I've witnessed a lot of bulls hitting the dirt with plain old 100 grain soft point Weatherby factory ammo. No elk has ever shrugged them off and these guys didn't hit them good. The .270 or 7mm Roy is a better choice, but I would have NO problem busting elk all day long with a .25 Roy and good bullets. My favorite bullet has always been the Barnes 100 grain XLC, which is discontinued. I'm glad I bought several hundred of them. It sure is a fun, laser flat shooting round to pull the trigger on. Flinch

rockchucker,



The following is why I ordered a .257 Weatherby. I will be using 100 TTSX for big game and 85 Noslers for varmints.


Cliff told me about hunting elk in three states with a couple of his buddies. They used to use heavy for caliber bullets. He used 175 Noslers in his 7RUM while his friends fired 120 Noslers. All were partitions. One fellow shoots a .25-06 and the other a .25-06 A.I. He said they always had to follow up the trail at least fifty yards, but not over a couple hundred yards.

I convinced them to try the solid copper bullets that were much lighter. Cliff went with 127 grain Groove bullets and 120 grain G.S.Customs. The other two tried 100 grain Barnes. To say they were delighted is an understatement

Since switching they have killed fourteen bulls. The longest tracking job they had since switching is twenty feet. Not yards! They have killed two spikes side by side at a ranged 410 yards. Cliff fired a 127 grainer and the other fellow fired a 100 grain Barnes. Both of bulls dropped at the shot.

One bull was shot at about 50 yards. The 100 grainer from the 25-06 A.I. entered the left ham. They found the bullet under the skin in front of the right shoulder. Its weight was more than 80 grains. The shooter claims 3,600 feet per second with his A.I.

Does this answser your question?

i guess so.

i've been thinking of a texas smoker aka 257 w.m. or a 280 a.i., but i'm unsure of which way to go.

i have a rem 700 in a 280, so the a.i. would be cheaper, but 3600 fps sounds nice.

woes is me what to do.

That's the scope I have on mine....with factory 100 grain spire points, and before the Timney was installed, it shot a 2 inch wide by 1 inch high group....at 300 yards. Where it was two inches low, sighted two inches high at 100. Amazingly accurate weapon for the money.

I have a 257 Vanguard that so far has grouped well with everything that I have tried in it. It is scary accurate with 100gr, TSX's and shoots like a ray gun out to 300yds. (the longest distance that I have had a chance to try it so far). I plan on using it on mulies this fall.

Friend of mine here killed 8 Bull elk with his Mark 5 in 257 Wea before he found out it was not considered an elk rifle. He said all the bulls flopped right where they were standing when hit.

Sure did disgust him to find out he did not have a proper elk rifle.

Hmmm... This is convincing.


Makes me like how my Roy shoots the 100 TTSX at .75 inches even better!

Finally got the 80gr TTSXs to group well for me. Had to slow them down to a paltry 3700 fps . Reckon they'll bounce off?






Still haven't found the magic recipe for the 100gr TTSXs yet...


John

My wby likes it with H1000

Has anybody had any luck w/ the Hornady 100 gr. Spire Points on the range or deer w/ the .257 Roy?

Yeah, I have had the 100 Hornadys shoot very well in two .257 Roys, 1/2 to 3/4 inch groups at 3500+. They also work on deer very well, at least from 200 yards out, which is as close as I've seen them used.

I had a custom 257 Weatherby with zero freebore with a 26" three groove pac nor super match barrel on it.

I shot a load of AA3100 with the 85g NOsler combined technology bullet at 4130 fps that just folded up deer, buddy and I never had a deer run off or lost one.

The 85g Nosler CT bullet is one tough son of a gun

Ruger270man, in the factory chamber, the 100g Hornady Flat base with 71.5-72.5g of Alliant Reloader 22 with a Fed mag primer is lethal medicine on white tails.

Shot an honest 1/2" group with the factory wby 80gr ttsx saturday with a standard vanguard 24". The gun has had the trigger and crown done but is otherwise out of the box (not sub moa model). Barrel seems to have a copper fouling problem, but that is more of a cleaning issue. Started with a clean bore, fowling shot, then 3 shot group. Only about 75 degrees and gave the barrel a little time between shots.

just bought the rem 700 lss in 257wtby. anyone have this gun?does it shoot as goods as the vanguards?factory loads?

You guys are getting me all excited!
I have a Krieger 26" heavy barrel in 257 Wby that is going to get fluted by Kampfeld and screwed on to an action hopefully by January or so. Too late for deer hunting this year but ought to have her up and running for next season. I have a bunch of 110 gr Accubonds so hopefully they will shoot but just looked at the factory ballistics for the 80 gr TSX. Dang! 3900 fps. Should be no hold over out to 400 yards.

THINK ABOUT THE WIND!! I would shoot 100gr Swift Sciroccos.. An unbelievable BC...

721 tomahawk:

are those legit BCs or are they exaggerated?

does any body know?

thanks

Brett (Mac)

Brett, I am positive they are damn close if not exact... SU35 dotes on them for long range killin..

Good to know, I'm looking at getting a 25-06 and running them out of it.

Thanks

Brett (Mac)

Looking at at a 110gr AB and a 100gr SSII that are sitting on my desk, the 110 looks to be about .1" longer (by ruler). Bearing surfaces are very similar, with nose lengths and shapes being a bit different. The SSII can't be far off from .400 BC.

Ballistic Coefficient .429

http://www.swiftbullets.com/store/25-caliber-100-grain-1.html

That's what they claim, but BC for the 110AB is actually lower, per Nosler. Where reality is concerned, it likely matters little, as both should have very good BC's for .257 hunting bullets. I'm gonna go shoot some more of each this afternoon.

Three words...Ultra Bore Coat

+1 on the UBC.

I recently have been trying .25-caliber 100 Tipped TSX's in several of my rifles that like standard 100-grain TSX's. So far all have shot very similarly, including a .257 Weatherby NULA Model 28 that averages about 1-1/2" with 75.0 grains of Ramshot Magnum and the little TTSX--at 200 meters (about 220 yards).

as usual you guys obviously get to shoot a lot more than me. i figured a 1/2" group was pretty good from a stock non-sub-moa rifle. Is the UBC to help the copper fouling?

Here's a 150 yard exit wound on a Pronghorn from an 80gr TTSX launched at 3700fps:



John

I have 2 of the blued SUB MOA's and the first one really likes 100 gr. TSX's. It will pretty much cut a ragged hole @ 100 yds. I havent even fired the second SUB MOA yet, but the target sent with that one is even better.



Kevin