I need load info-bullet and powder- for a 25-06 to use for Antelope up to 400yds.
All help appreciated.

Coach

I used 100 NBTs for my pronghorn hunt; not the best, not the worst. They are small animals, with light frames and succumb easily. I'd use any 100-120 grain bullet that you want and expect great results. IMR 4350 is a stand-by powder in the 25/06--expect excellent accuracy though with it you leave a lot of velocity on the table. I've better success all around with RL 22 and 25. Currently launching 115 NBTs with RL 25. 3200+ from a 24 inch barrel. That'd be a pretty good combo for pronghorn...

Old Coach, the load I am listing is going back to the early 70's but works like a charm on speed goats or mule deer.

120 grain bullet (Hornady for antelope) Nosler Partition for mule deer out to 400 yards.

IMR-4831 powder at"53.5grns" velocity is 3100fps, recoil to the shoulder is 16 pounds of felt recoil. My model 70 Winchester shot .750-MOA with this load using Hornady bullets. It also shot a .686-MOA using Nosler's bullet.

7828 and a 100 Horn will do all you need, same with about any bullet of decent weight.

Lopes are easy, 400 isn't very far and IME it's very easy to get closer than 400 on most lopes.

Dober

Wait a minute...how would you know that??? Are you in the 50/200 antelope club....?






Had to throw that out there after the turdcutter banter today...what a fuggin' tool....

either that or imr 4831 and a hundred grain ballistic tip

Yeah we're really gonna get it now...I pretty much use my 22/250 anymore taken em to 505 with it. Dat oughta get him going...grin

Dober

If I could get my hands on some 80grain TTSX's I'd be throwing them at 3600 fps+......that's an antelope round!

I can't speak for the 25-06, but in my .257 Wby, the 115 gr. Berger VLD Hunting was the most accurate of all similar hunting bullets, 100 gr. to 120 gr. that I tested. And, that included the TSX 100's, NAB 110's, Sierra 120's among others. May be worth checking them out. The lighter bullets, while fast at the muzzle, don't hold their K.E. as well at long ranges and are deflected more by cross wind. I'd test for accuracy and go with what my gun liked. Hitting speed goats is more of a challenge than killing them. They die pretty easy.

I have filled several arks full of critters with the .25-284 (same thing as .25-06) shooting the 100 grain Hornady flat base spire point. This is a phenomenal bullet that always stays together, is inexpensive and has a decent BC. I drive them just a tad under 3,400 fps with H4831 in a 26" pipe. Here is a double that took place in a matter of minutes. Complete pass through on both. The dog was about 50 yards standing still. The goat was about 175 yards booking 90! Both dropped dead at the shot.

You can see the exit hole in the goat in the high lung area. The dog exit hole is pretty obvious Flinch

Good shooting, especially the speed goat...

I used the Berger 115gr VLD out of my 25/06 ackley and was very impressed with it.

When hunting heavy boned critters, like this giant doe, I use a 100 grain Barnes XLC. This is the exit hole. Same rifle, 25-284 100 grain XLC leaving the muzzle at 3,500 fps. shot was about 100 yards. I piled up three running does in three shots in Alabama. Not a bad "30 seconds" of hunting. Flinch

I'm glad to see someone besides me is culling out those huge old does.....

Rel 22 and the Nosler 100 gr BT

Hornady 100gr and drive it about 3200-3400 with Reloader 22. Will kill any goat I've encountered.



Johnny $

My .25-06 load for 'lopes is 100 grain Hornady Interlock with 56.5 grains of Reloder 22 and a CCI 200 primer.

One of 'em would put that doe of Flinch's to shame though...it was a staggering 20 lbs (skinned and dressed, no head); a real monster! The dang hornless critters swithched order when the buck was in front of 'em, and I shot the first no-horn that came out (where the big doe shoulda been) fortunately the Wyoming tag said "doe or fawn".

I've done well with the Sierra 117 SBT (Gameking). My first choice for powder is RE 17 with IMR 4831 a close second. Both loads worked up for my rifle giving me 3100-3175 (RE 17 is faster for me with the IMR on the low end of that range). I have been using the Winchester standard primers (WLR). Accuracy is pretty good with both loads.

Ingwe, are those considered big deer in the town of Dinkdom Montana? Sounds like too much for a 7X57...

Coach, like many have said Hornady Interlockts are good bullets and I'd also suggest trying some 110 AB's and work them up with IMR4831.

Like Dober said, 400 really ain't all that far for lopes.

What rifle you shooting?

I agree, that size game is really pushing it with a 7x57. He should get 6.5x55 or at he least a .275 Rigby...

Ingwe...you making fun of my monster does? Dammnnn things keep running in front of my bullets. They sure are tasty though I can roll them up and put them in a baggy. Flinch

Yep; my last antelope, I coulda used a hankerchief as a game bag!

They got spots on 'em still when they're that little here.

Fryin' pan deer, one per pan and tasty.

Have killed my share with a 100gr Btip, some at a tad beyond 400 yards. Eventually swore off it for baldies. Last one tried to outrun the Btip at about a hundred yards, but lost.

54grs of IMR 4831. Has worked well in every 25-06 I've ever owned.

Lemme see: My wife and I have used the following bullets either in the .25-06, or at .25-06 muzzle velocities, to take lots of pronghorns (and a few similar-sized animals, whether Ingwe-does or whatever) at ranges out to 400 yards:

100 Barnes XBT, TSX and Tipped TSX
100 and 117 Hornady Interlock
100, 115 and 120 Nosler Partition
100 and 115 Nosler Ballistic Tip
115 Berger VLD
117 Sierra GameKing
120 Remington Core-Lokt

Almost every time, when the bullets hit the right place (which was most of the time) the animal died quickly. From this I have concluded that there aren't any magic bullets.

The powders used ranged from old standbys (IMR4350 and H4831)to newbies (Ramshot Hunter and Magnum). Some were even factory loads, with who-knows-what powder. From this I have concluded that a lot of powders go bang adequately.

The only exception to all of the above was a Wyoming buck my wife shot with the 120-grain Nosler Partition. The bullet landed right behind the "front" shoulder, and blood started spurting out of his ribs in a 1" wide stream. He continued to follow a doe, his nose in her butt, until another bullet in pretty much the same place caused the buck to lie down. Even then he feebly tried to horn Eileen when she walked up to him. From this I have concluded that with pronghorn almost anything is possible.

" Ingwe does"......?




Kinda has a nice ring to it.....

This one was so huge she needed TWO baggies....

Not braggin'...mind you....

Hey, our group on the Milk River culled several "Ingwe-does" last October. Though some of the people involved expressed regret when theirs had little bitty balls.

Yeah...I got one of those two years ago up in that Hi-line country too....



Still tasted good though....

I have heard they don't taste as good over in that Idaho sagebrush country....

Who says so....?


I think we should go check.....

Funny!

Milk alfalfa dinks are alright but I would say it's fair knowledge that they don't hold a candle to the dinks that drink out of the Missouri. Always thought the Milk deer had sort of a muddy/catfishy taste from drinkin' that nasty water all the time.

That probably also explains why people from da Point are generally much better looking and more intelligent that say someone from Glasgow(or Havre)....grin

Or, God forbid, Havre....

Good point JB but at least it does get a little better upstream.
Nashua on the other hand....laughin'

Hey.........

I used to live in Havre......

I seem to remember that...now.

Nobody said anything bad about Hobson...


Some of us gots "decorum......"

Hey, Nashua is a nice little town. Used to stop and gas up and buy a 6-pack of Pepsi there back in the 70's, on the way to outstanding adventures on and around the Big Lake....

Pepsi....


Yeah...... RIGHT.......

Yeah, stopped there for 'Pepsi' and gizzards a couple dozen times on the way the lake.


Speaking of the Hi-Line, mosquitos where out in semi full force today, probably got bit about 20 times.

Is it dry enough to get around to shoot gophs up there yet....or is the grass already too high???

We had 2-3" of rain last week but it's drying out quick in the hills. Another good one predicted for tomorrow though. Farmers are nervous about getting the crop in.

Grass is just starting to take off.

Thanks...thinking about a reccy run in that Chester country....

"Though some of the people involved expressed regret when theirs had little bitty balls."

Mule deer, you looking up Ingwe's skirt again? I know he is a smooth head, but looking under his skirt just ain't right. Flinch

Antelope are not hard to kill, and the last one that I shot was with a 223 with a 55g Sierra loaded to 3100 fps, DRT.

25/06 may be the premiere antelope cartridge for non wild cats. The 100g Hornady flat base in my rifles shot 1/2" or better with IMR 4350(3300 fps) and R#19 (3375 fps) with Win primers in win cases(ONLY).

For your extreme speeds, try IMR 7828 and R#25 with Fed 215's, you will be in excess of 3400fps chomping on 3500 fps with the 100's with great accuracy.

I used Sierra 90g BTHP with IMR 4350 to take a LOT of antelope, then the 100g Sierra BTSP, then the 100g Hornady Flat base which is tougher and is excellent on deer also.

OAL is critical in every 25/06 that I have ever owned. I h the rifles that I have had, the accuracy will like from a .040 bullet jump to touching the lands.

Make no mistake about it, the 25/06 is a magnum rifle for antelope, and are the Hammer of Thor out to 600 yards.

I run 100 gr Interlocks at 3250 fps through my 257 AI for absolutely everything and have had great performance. There are many here who have run 'em through the Weatherby Mag w/out penetration issues, and fueled by 4831 I bet you could get 3400 fps through your '06 which oughta be death on anything and laser flat out beyond 450.

Good luck!

The rifle is a Rem Mtn rifle with the wood stock.
Scope is a Swaro 4x12 AV.
I have some Win brass that is once fired and most of the powders listed.
Sounds like the 100-120grn bullets work best.
This rifle will shoot sub-MOA for 3 shots and then the groups start to open up.
I have been using 110NABs with good results.
THANKS for all the info.
Coach

Flinch,

No comment! (laughin', though...)

Flinch, I hope that is not the problem.
The rifle is box stock and has always shot 3 close together and then the next one is about 1" high and right.
Maybe if the bbl channel was opened and the action bedded it would do better.
I have always thought that if I can't hit with the 1st 3 shots it wouldn't matter.

Coach

Pretty much how it's supposed to be. All I've ever fretted about in a deer rifle, was the first shot, from a cold barrel. Then next in the peckin' order, is a 3 shot group, just to see what any follow up shots might produce?

Don't even fire more than 3 shot groups from my varminters, except maybe when I was testing new loads and then, sparingly.

None of them have failed me yet.

Couch, it could be a bedding issue, but I would bet the stock is touching the barrel. I just bought a new 7mm-08 and took it out yesterday. The first 3 shots go under 1/2", then the next three shots start to string vertically (no cooling between shots). I let it cool, and the next three shots go into the same 1/2" group, then string vertically again. The barrel is making contact on the bottom, so when it heats up, the groups move with it. Float the barrel and I bet your problems will correct themselves. Flinch

100 TTSX is where its at. The 100 Accubond would be a good beat as well.

Let the gun decide. Go with what it likes and will shoot the best. IMHO, accuracy for a long range speed goat is the most pressing issue. They're not that hard to kill and most any bullet will put one down. But, you gotta deliver that bullet where it can do the job. Precision first, bullet performance, second.

The 25-06 is an excellent antelope or "speed goat" caliber to hunt them with out West. I venture to say it will indeed kill those speeding goats out to 400 yards with no problem at all.