I have an older M700 BDL in .308 Win I'm thinking of changing up. So keeping it .308 caliber or smaller to continue working with my .30 cal suppressor, what would you do? It's a constant 1.5" shooter with me behind the trigger for five shots.

I bought as a barreled action with a factory barrel sporter contour currently cut to 18" and threaded. I added a TT Primary trigger to it, and a Greyboe Trekker stock. Hunted it, it's about was about 10 lbs all up with mountain sling, Omega 300 suppressor, NF 3-10X42 SHV, Warne MT pic rail and rings, plus five rounds. I'd like to keep it the same weight or a little less.

I'm open to most ideas for cartridges, but I'm kind of stuck between .308 and .22 Creedmoor. I'm thinking of adding M5 Hunter bottom metal as well.

284 win but you are going to need to make sure the mag will accomodate about 2.9

The 284 Win is a Goat Fhuqk and a Double Goat Fhuqk at a paltry 2.900" COAL. Hint.

I LOVE the 224 Speedmire and have a herd,but with the M5 talk,I could go 6 BR real fhuqking easily. Hint............(grin)

You sound like a man of experience when it comes to goat fhuqks

Ms. Detroit,

I "only" shoot multiple S/A 700's in each: 6-284,25-284 and 284Win. Now as per your HILARIOUS version of "experience",just what in the fhuqk bullet are you gunning in 284 Win at 2.900" COAL. Be VERY careful here. HINT.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............

I'm not a long range shooter nor a paper puncher.

However, for everyday killin', IMHO, the 308 Win is my "go to"






























ya!

GWB

GWB, it's hard to argue with your success. I like my .308, but I'm exploring options.

6 Creed

If I had a SA .473" face action today I would build a .22 Creed and not think twice about it.

I’d go with a 243, twisted per what bullets you prefer. I find 1:10 to be adequate, but your mileage may vary.

What do you plan to hunt with it, and at what ranges?

6mm Creedmoor.

He has it down to a science.

A 6mm Creedmoor would cover a lot of ground and be legal for hunting the western states.

This opens up a lot of ground for choices, depending on what you plan to hunt. Figure out if you want this to be an off the shelf ammo proposition or if you want to craft ammo that isn't available in Joe's Bait Shack when you go hunting. That should narrow it down substantially. Nothing wrong with the 308 in any instance, but if it doesn't sound exciting enough for you there seem to be lots of choices from 22 creedmore, 6 creed, 6.5 creed, .243, 7-08, etc... to choose from. You're going to get a list of everyone else's favorites here, but what speaks to you when you think about this? The first one that comes to mind would be the one I would go with if it were me... there are no wrong choices, just not enough money to build them all...

I shoot multiple Custom Rifles in every chambering cited thus far and if SALAMI,I also run high Zoot OEM's so chambered. R&D never ends,I gun an open mind and am rather at ease in reflections of same. Hint.

Coming full circle to 6BR in said application,one can shorten spouts and not take much of a velocity hit and as cans go,there's simply less gas to cool. Terminal effects ain't a fret. Hint.

Skull size muchly exceeds barrel length(19"). Hint.



Oddly enough,I just started carving some Mail open,which just happens to meld nicely. Hint.





Ms. Detriot is still Googling gumption. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................

Keep your 308 and if you want another caliber, buy another rifle. A Crudmoor would be a good choice or a fast twist 22-250 maybe.

+1,

KemoSabe

I've heard it said that "variety is the spice of life".



17 Ackley Bee




17 Mach IV




a couple of 475 Turnbulls





It does seem to help keep one off the couch.


ya!

GWB

7mm-08 !

Glad to see others using the BR, I ran several since the 90s. Mild efficient killers. If one can get that round to feed, it's a bonus, as is double the barrel life of a 243 capacity 6 bore.

As to factory options - rifle and ammo, if deer/hogs are the largest menu........hard to beat what it offers. It can handle larger game if pressed, but I'd not want to try stopping a bear charge if in bear country. Otherwise, it would be a top pick. The 6.5C and 7/08 also are great choices as the older 243 with top bullets. To me, today's bullet choices did to the 6, what they did for 9s.......made them a solid option.

I have two 6 Creedmoor rifles with a 7 and 7.5 twist, and an old .243 I bought when I turned 18. I don't have a rifle in .224 cal cartridges larger than .223 Rem. 6mm the smallest cal I can legally hunt with in my state, but I do hunt where .224 is legal often. That's why I threw it in the mix.

The .308 just flat works for how I hunt as well.

If it were me I would firmly be in the 6.5x47 or 6x47 Lapua camps. Damn near creedmoor velocities with meager amounts of powder, low recoil/muzzle blast and brass that lasts damn near forever.

I like the 6BR and have built a whole bunch of them. Feeding is hit and miss without some magazine mods; usually minor.
DipStick would be the man to ask about magazine options. I'm sure he's tried a few.
The thing is, the BR pushes the 243 pretty hard and is so easy to tune and shoot, it's almost like cheating. I still chamber for the original BR for shortrange BR and the Norma version for everything else. The 6 BR is very well represented at the Metallic Silhouette matches, and the guys are successful with it. When sighting in, one shooter regularly shoots the 385 meter turkeys in the head.
If chambering for the 6BR, it's not a bad idea to have the firing pin reduced and bushed at the same time, to eliminate primer cratering. GD

The idea of toting a 10-pound hunting rifle around makes my poor old tired blood run cold. I have a 6CM, and think it’s a great choice, but at 6.5 lbs or so, maybe 7.

Go wild - be the first kid on the block with a 6.8x51/277 SIG Fury!

Yeah, no.

I can sell you a set of reamers cheap that's a 270-308 not sure if it's exactly the same or not. I can send you pics if you're interested.

I have a 7lbs suppressed .308 now. There isn't much I can do to make the rifle in question lighter as it sits except change the optics.

In your Remington, with an extended box and long throat, you can seat the .308 150 E-tips out to 2.92" and get around 2900 fps with H4895 in a 22" tube if you want. But that's still not going to be as good as a 140 .277 at around 3000 fps from a brass-cased .277 Fury using H4350 in a 22" tube.

SniffleKchunt,

Your GoogleFu is stuck on FULL Retard...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Not that you ha "choice". Hint.

Bless your poor poor(literally) heart,for trying though.

Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............

Little Liar Larry, people like you who spend all their time on the internet making posts rather than hunting, would be better off just reading the posts and learning, rather than posting fantasy about long-range hunting with 180's in a 7-08 that they never, ever do. Oh, and I'm glad you took my advice and bought some .277 150 grain SuperBulldozers.

No way I'm going to run 140 at 3K in an action not designed to handle the Fury pressures.

"brass-cased" meaning the ordinary mild-pressure brass cases in a 22" barrel, not the 80,000 psi hybrid steel and brass case in a 16" barrel.

SniffleKchunt,

Your Delusional Drooling Dumbfhuqktitude is a hoot,as you Google aloud from your Couchbound Kchunt,while "living" vicariously...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Slow day here,as per usual. hint.

Cases formed nicely,if only as per always. Hint.





Typical M3,in that you lose a third or so,on a "flat" system. Nice to be able to zero parallax an I've long M3'd a third dot,to the platform's zero(250yds here). Google as you MUST. Hint.




Weather blew up and flopped around,which makes things fun. Hint.



Also makes extrapolations,that much more revealing. Hint.




1100yd steel didn't have an ELD chance,but the MB's STOLE The Fhuqking Show. BC still "matters". Hint.



Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even YOU can "afford" to "contribute". Keep rattlin' Pom-Pom's from the sideline,despiute that being your ONLY "move". Hint.

Bless your poor poor(literally) heart,for Lying,Crying,Trying and Whining.

Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................

I've not seen any data that suggests you can get close to 3K FPS without exceeding 65K PSI, often times 70K+ PSI. This is based off of Quick Load Data I've found. The .277 Fury Commercial data keeps the pressure reasonable, and the .277 Fury data pushes pressure well above 65K PSI. I can't find any actual reloading data yet on this cartridge.

.260 Rem. One of the most overlooked rounds out there and is very effective suppressed in a bolt gun. Perfect for everything from varmint to large pigs, using a quality bonded or mono-metal bullet.

Just got my 260 rem about a week ago. Now needs to cool off so I can shoot it. 700 Rem action with Lilja 22" barrel. Going to work it up with 129gr Hornadys. 2-7x Redfield scope on it.

The 264 Kreed is mechanically a muchly superior Mouse Trap to the 260. Though I just "happen" to shoot 260AI too. Hint.

It'd be tough to make a much 260 schittier,than have it squirting 129 Hornie's through a Dreadfield. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............

I load for the equivalent of this. In fact the fury holds about a grain more. Figures given are based on my results seating out to 2.91" with a long magazine box.

Big Stick got some Badlands Super Bulldozers ?

fkn awesome mang, now dump that Jabby Steve wHorenady garbage STAT

Yeh, I put him onto them. Don't know if he's loaded 'em yet, but he's got 'em.

Never known a 'bad' 6.5 - but having built a 6.5 - 308 the year before Rem launched their version of the 'A-Square' - yeah, IDK how Rem got it thru SAAMI before AS but......needless to say, it never matched some Swedes. I did have a few Full custom 260s that did very well with Lapua brass that was not around when I had my first 6.5-308 done.

But since then I have leaned to the Creed and x47 personally. They both seem to find accuracy easier.

Nothing wrong with any when you can plug your vitals with a decent 6.5 regardless of headstamp.

BS - is that a JOC AI above?

Build a 30 T/C, and twist how you like. A 13 or 14 twist would handle 125's up to 150's. Tons of Creedmoor brass out there.

If I were going to change, it would be a 300 RSAUM.

It's hard to beat the 308 for versatility and ammo availability, that's the route I went. If not the 308, the 6mm CM is solid and ammo is readily available. If you handload I guess it doesn't really matter.

Do handload and have one 308/7.62 in an Enfield. The easiest way to help a .308 is to extend the chamber and throat to handle 30-06 SPRG cartridges. The 308 does NOT handle heavy bullets fpr
elk, bear or moose. In AK, that gets to be important.
The 6 mm or 6,5 has not the history or performance of the 270 WCF or the 7mm Mauser. Think I will keep my pre-64 M70s in those calibers and buy more powder and bullets.

I just picked up my 30-6.5wby rpm2 days ago.
It was a 26in bull-barreled.308 on a 700action.
I’m pushing 200eldxs 2970fps with 66gr of Staball 6.5.
180gr Sierra gamekings are getting 3150 with 68gr of h4350.

Neither the 200gr eldx or 180gr sierras would group with the 12 twist barrel.
I discovered flatbase 180s(partitions, interlocks,hotcors) group well.
I’m pushing partitions 3113fps with 73gr of h4831

I built five 6.5x08 Remington 700s and two AR-10 Armalite rifles in 6.5x08. I would have traded a left important part for that AR-10 in Vietnam VS my M-14 with its 3x9 Redfield scope. I am somewhat partial to the 6.5x08 with a 120 SMK, Rem 243 brass prepped then fire formed and selected by case capacity and H-414 powder and 210m primers. The 6.5x08 will shoot out spent shotgun shell primers at 100. Try it sometime.