I just put a Custom Jay Frazier sporterized 1936 Mexican Mauser with a 22inch Swedish 6.5X55 barrel at a no. 2 contour with a pretty nice stick of bastogne walnut that weighs 6.5 lbs with redfield bases and rings on layaway.

I am curious about what people think of small ring mauser actions and custom rifles by Jay Frazier who I believe is still alive down in Delta.

Sincerely,
Thomas

The Mexican small ring 98's make very nice custom rifles! Not too familiar with Jay Fraziar. Can you post a picture of it? I'd love to see it.

Terry

Small ring actions are slick, appropriately short one's even slicker. I have a pretty nice Jim Wisner custom 7x57 on a M96 action.

TC1 and I both have beautiful Mexican mauser customs. Mine is in 275 Rigby.

I love the Mexican Mausers for a custom action.


ddj

I have one in the works right now in 7X57 and another for my grandson a little later in 257 Roberts. Those actions are slicker'n snot.

Small ring Mausers are great. I like the M98 SR's. 6.5 lbs is a decent weight. I'm currently putting a '36 Mex together that was mildly sporterized and is chambered in 7X57. After seeing some from the posters above plus others, I just had to own one or two. Got a small ring Erfurt in the works too. Pictures please.

How do Mex & other small ring Mausers compare against modern
Sako, Winchester, and Remington short actions.

From my point of view, the cost to bring them into the as-good-as category is just too high these days...

Don't get me wrong, they're very slick and cool, just not worth the cost.

If cost matters than, yes, this is the wrong tree. My '96 7X57.

bingo... who ever thinks of the cost... I am not one that looks at a gun as a strictly utilitarian tool... I can understand that some do, but I don't... I won't likely go so far as to call them art but I appreciate a gun that has nice aesthetics enough that I would pay more for it...

Just pokin fun here....
Shotgunjock, what do you do for a living?

Do you find it irritating if someone mocks your profession?

Using your own words:
From my point of view, the cost to bring them into the as-good-as categorypay your salary is just too high these days...

Don't get me wrong, they're veryyou're job is slick and cool, just not worth the cost.

Kind of fun taking a turn in the barrel, isn't it?

IMO, there are too many willing to spend money to take a Mauser down into the as-good-as category. In this condition, they are worth less than in an unaltered state. Mausers are an important part of history and are worth every bit of what it takes to do it right the first time. Especially the Mexican small rings!

ShotgunJack isn't mocking your profession JR. Not everyone has the same taste. What seems obviously superior to you and I and Ed and Butch, Karnis etc. is nothing more than overkill to others who don't share our affinity to special custom guns like this or they would certainly justify the cost IF their pockets would allow such a luxury. Nice Mex brother except for the pancake cheek piece, not to my taste. Be nice to see the bottom metal work. Nice work brother.

Again, I was just poking fun with a sharp stick. I hope all here can understand that's all it was. Don't think anyone here wants to think what they do for a living is just not worth the cost. I know that Shotgunjack wasn't trying to take a shot at what I do. But....those that are trying to learn about custom guns read "Custom Mausers are just not worth the cost" here and on several other places on the net might start to think there's some truth to the statement. Can you see my point?

Here's a pic of the Wisner floormetal.

James,

Is that LeeRoy Wisner? Adam

This is my 275 Rigby Mexican with double square bridges.

James Wisner, I think. It was made years ago.


Nice rifle Butch!

I better get back to work

If you think Mexican Mausers aren't worth the money and effort, don't look at my 1917 Enfield that JRGunmaker [James Anderson] is building for me.

PM sent...

No, I do not see your point.....you are going to have to drive it home by showing more pictures of that rifle.


....seriously, more please.

Yep. I do see your point JR. Loose lips sink ships. That phrase "mauser customs just not worth the cost" hits my button same as "deer don't know how much you spent on your custom gun", or doesn't matter how well you can shoot at a target" or any variations thereof. Nice metal work, real nice. Thanks for the bottom pic. Was it smoothed out and contoured much or is that shape "as shipped by Jim"? That is very crisp. Excellent photography as well.

ah....never get tired of seeing that D. Christman of yours. Did you commission that one or buy it elsewhere already completed?

Oh that thing. It's been pictured on here a couple times already. It's just another overvalued Mauser. Seen one ya seen 'em all. Talk about boring. NOT.

I had David Christman build it a few years ago.

I don't know Jay, but he is Regular Member of the ACGG.

Here's a few points:
where the checkering meets over the top of the grip
spur on the Silvers recoil pad
Nose of the comb where the grain flow meets from the perfectly quarter sawn blank.


Pics don't show up very big viewing the forum. If you right click on the image and select view image it has better detail.

I don't know. Christman did most of the metal and I stocked & rust blued it. Along with a small amount of metalwork.


A well done Mauser is so much more than just the sum of it's parts. It has a certain presence, lively & well balanced feel and natural grain flow as unique as it's owner.

Back to work......

Any idea what his current lead time is on a similar build?

The Mexican S/R M98 is just a pretty little action to start with. Add a few custom touches and it only gets more beautiful.



I'm sure James' leed time is long but I can assure you it's worth the wait!

Terry

Terry

Everytime you post photos of those custom Mexican's you have (or had) I start to feel nostalgic knowning one of them was once mine, but glad that you had the opportunity and the capital to do with it what I could not have done.

Very very nice.

I still have one of them. I sold the other before it was finished. I was just in too deep on customs.

I wonder how my 9.3x62mm Brno would look with the "knurled cocking piece" of the Mexican Mauser? I think that would add a touch of class

All it takes in money and a qualified 'smith. Could be done. The knob might clash with the butterknife handle though. M21 right?

Planning on replacing the handle with Oberndorf style. Yep 21

I say go for it. Only trick is finding someone with a suitable knurling set up. '36 Mex knobs are few and far between.