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Posted By: CowboyTim 8mm Wildcats??? - 01/07/17
Just curious, what 8mm Wildcats are out there for a Mauser 98??? I'm aware, of course, of the 8mm/06 and 8mm/06ai. I reload for an 8mm Gibbs and have seen drawings for the 3200 Hawk. Which ones am I missing?
Posted By: 79S Re: 8mm Wildcats??? - 01/07/17
323 Hollis I have one but been a long time since I shot it just sits in gun cabinet now
Posted By: Kaiser Norton Re: 8mm Wildcats??? - 01/07/17
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Just curious, what 8mm Wildcats are out there for a Mauser 98??? I'm aware, of course, of the 8mm/06 and 8mm/06ai. I reload for an 8mm Gibbs and have seen drawings for the 3200 Hawk. Which ones am I missing?


Long time ago, I put a couple dummy rounds together for the 8mm BR. A little short for the mauser action though....

Back then the 300 Whisper was gaining some initial recognition.

Kaiser Norton
Posted By: pinotguy Re: 8mm Wildcats??? - 01/07/17
Not wildcats but I have always been interested in the 8x60S and 8x68S - classic Mauser cartridges, IMO.

Finally did something about the 8x68S itch and have that build underway. Metal work is done and it is off to Robar and then McMillan.

Read where a guy in Spain necked the 9.3 Brenneke down to 8mm (8x64 Mazon). I have to believe that is a potent cartridge.
Posted By: Steelhead Re: 8mm Wildcats??? - 01/07/17
8/08
Posted By: chamois Re: 8mm Wildcats??? - 01/07/17
Originally Posted by pinotguy

Read where a guy in Spain necked the 9.3 Brenneke down to 8mm (8x64 Mazon). I have to believe that is a potent cartridge.


I am the guy in Spain.

Capacity of my 8mm MAZON is almost identical to any of the 2.5" magnum cases, like 7RM, 308Norma or 338WM.

The idea was to have magnum performance in a rimless case without a belt that woud be a good fit in M98 actions without modifications, and to be original.

And all this, the 8mm MAZON is.

Alvaro Mazon
Posted By: Deflagrate Re: 8mm Wildcats??? - 01/07/17
8mm/308 Norma Magnum.
Fits in the standard 98 magazine length.
The 308 Norma Magnum was designed to rechamber 30-06 riles without setting back the barrel or lengthening the magazine. Norma made cases and ammo available before they ever chambered a rifle in it.
8mm/284 But, it won't do anything an 8mm/06 won't do. 284 brass is harder to come by and may require mag rail alterations to feed right.
Posted By: CowboyTim Re: 8mm Wildcats??? - 01/08/17
Originally Posted by chamois
Originally Posted by pinotguy

Read where a guy in Spain necked the 9.3 Brenneke down to 8mm (8x64 Mazon). I have to believe that is a potent cartridge.


I am the guy in Spain.

Capacity of my 8mm MAZON is almost identical to any of the 2.5" magnum cases, like 7RM, 308Norma or 338WM.

The idea was to have magnum performance in a rimless case without a belt that woud be a good fit in M98 actions without modifications, and to be original.

And all this, the 8mm MAZON is.

Alvaro Mazon


Sounds like a real stomper of a round!!! What preasure do you load it too?
Posted By: chamois Re: 8mm Wildcats??? - 01/08/17
I have not had the loads pressure tested by a balistic lab.

I developed the loads with the help of a chronograph and using QL as a guide.

After years of use in two rifles built using K98 actions, a 1909 Argentino and an FN Commercial built for Husvarna, I never had any incident or misshap with any of the loads. By coincidence, I have just ordered a second batch of custom head stamped Horneber brass, after the initial one has been almost exhausted.

Alvaro
Posted By: gerry35 Re: 8mm Wildcats??? - 01/08/17
I thought hard about a 8mm-338 WM before the 325 WSM came out, still think it would be a neat round.
Posted By: CowboyTim Re: 8mm Wildcats??? - 01/08/17
I've considered an 8x62, but I think it would be pretty much the same as a 3200 Hawk.
Posted By: archeratlrg Re: 8mm Wildcats??? - 01/10/17
I shoot several different 8mm Wildcats. Both the 8x57 AI and 8-06 AI and a 8x62 Durham mag and a 8-300 Win Mag. Love them all. I had Some reamers made this past year for a round I named the IMM (Intermediate Mauser Magnum) which is based off a shortened RUM case. I cut it down to 2.28" to maximize capacity in the short mausers and am building a set from 25 cal up thru 416 and yep, the 8mm will be the first one chambered. Looking forward to getting them done. Case capacity will be a bit more than the 300 Win Mag case. Will keep you posted on its development.
Posted By: Cowboybart Re: 8mm Wildcats??? - 01/15/17
Almost done with an 8mm Hetzenauer build. (8x68 Improved).

I will be selling the chamber reamer and FL die reamer when I get it done.

8 Mazon sounds fun.
Posted By: CGPAUL Re: 8mm Wildcats??? - 01/21/17
My son is in the process of converting his .325, built on a 700 LA,to an 8x33 Nosler. Reamer built by PT&G will clean up .325 chamber. If you go to PT&G,new products, you will see it. Should be interesting.
Oh,....just because.
Posted By: Taconic11 Re: 8mm Wildcats??? - 01/22/17
Any deer that I have ever killed with my 8x57, has thought it was dispatched by a wildcat!
Posted By: CowboyTim Re: 8mm Wildcats??? - 01/22/17
Originally Posted by Taconic11
Any deer that I have ever killed with my 8x57, has thought it was dispatched by a wildcat!


I like that, especially if you load it to CIP pressure standards. My 8x57 is the first one out of the safe when I head to the woods.

CowboyTim
Posted By: 300stw Re: 8mm Wildcats??? - 01/23/17
8mm x 376 steyr functions and feeds great, 200 gr bullet at 3000fps, put together a dozen or so over the years,,, my favorite 98 mauser cartridge,
Posted By: archeratlrg Re: 8mm Wildcats??? - 07/22/17
Good evening 300stw, are you changing anything with the Steyr, shoulder angle etc? Where did you get your reamer? Have been considering doing the same for use in a intermediate length 98 that I have. PM me or drop me an email as I'm not on here much. ([email protected]) Thanks for your response. How does it shoot the 220's?
Posted By: OttoG Re: 8mm Wildcats??? - 07/24/17
Quote

Read where a guy in Spain necked the 9.3 Brenneke down to 8mm (8x64 Mazon). I have to believe that is a potent cartridge


I have had the pleasure of hunting with Alvaro Mazon. He is a true sportsman . The 8mm Mazon is a great cartridge - perfect for monteria etc.
Posted By: Tejano Re: 8mm Wildcats??? - 07/25/17
You should check on some of the 8mm oddities conjured up by Charles Askin from 8mmx350 to 8mmx378 Weatherby and I think 416 Jeffrey too. Mostly he found out the bullets available then were not up to the task. Seems the 8mm niche is pretty well covered already.
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