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Posted By: Kenneth Sight options. - 05/01/16
You guys have my interest up,

I have a Benelli, not drilled or tapped, and I have little desire to D&T these guns, so what are my options for adding a sight,

Red dot or some type of that nature, no interest in a traditional scope.

I'm hearing about tru-glo, speed beads fastfires and others.

how about a quick tutorial on each, that may apply to what I'm looking for, An aiming point on a shotgun for turkeys,

with the caveat that the guns are also used occasionally for trap or sporting clays. I know, that somewhat muddys the water. The point being the sight can't be to permanent, or strictly dedicated to turkey.

Posted By: Odessa Re: Sight options. - 05/01/16
Kenneth, if you have an extra barrel you can get a barrel mounted sight for the vent rib and leave the sights zeroed on your dedicated turkey barrel. If you mount on a receiver you are going to have to remove it if its in the way for other uses. Of course the guys who use the Speedbeads and Fastfires often use them for those other purposes (waterfowl, etc.)
Posted By: Kenneth Re: Sight options. - 05/01/16
No extra barrel for the Benelli's,I have extra barrels for the 870, but thats only 2 3/4" and 28". Not exactly the ideal turkey gun,,,,and blued with wood. Madness!
Posted By: Odessa Re: Sight options. - 05/01/16
Try looking around at the Old Gobbler forum - there are some real experts over there at mounting FastFires on all types of shotguns - they drill the receiver and one of them sells a special mount that protects the electronic sight. The worse part of putting on and off a shotgun sight is zeroing it on a pattern board - very trial and error using up a lot of expensive shells. Once I have one on there and zeroed I don't want to take it off again.
Posted By: Kenneth Re: Sight options. - 05/01/16
Every time I go over to OG I end up buying another call, Damn it anyway.

Right now I'm pretty glad D.Halloran hasn't been answering his phone.

Not going there............
Posted By: gunnut308 Re: Sight options. - 05/01/16
The truglo is all aluminum and clamps to the rib. I've fired 50 rounds without a hiccup. And bright, it looks like they are battery operated. They are fiber optic It's the chit...
I think it's called the deer and turkey extreme .. $50
I'm gonna put them on my other shotguns.
Posted By: George_De_Vries_3rd Re: Sight options. - 05/02/16

Here's what I did for my Ultralight: got a rib mounted, no D&T cantilever picatinney type base from B-Square (see my post here) and depending what model Ben you have all you need is a turkey choke as most will do better than the supplied full choke.

If you go to the Carlsons website you can find a link to choke interchangeability to determine the right one for your model Ben.

As to optic, no contest for me-it's some iteration of a red dot. I have both Trij's and Burris FF lll mounted on various guns and they work well. The Burris with 3MOA dot is on my Ben to be used for the turks.
Posted By: Dave_in_WV Re: Sight options. - 05/02/16
I don't know which model you have but Burris makes Speed Beads for your brand.
Posted By: George_De_Vries_3rd Re: Sight options. - 05/02/16

Do you mean what model of Benelli? It's the Ultralight as mentioned above.

I like the latitude of red dot placement with the cantilever mount as I prefer the red dot quite far from my eye.
Posted By: NMSSHOOTER Re: Sight options. - 05/02/16
I have the truglo gobble stopper and have really liked it. The only time I didn't like it was when I got busted one time and had to shoot in a hurry ona moving bird. Ended up with a dead bird but took multiple shots that I think would have been only one with a bead only.
I think with more practice the site will be easier to use
Posted By: Dave_in_WV Re: Sight options. - 05/02/16
Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd

Do you mean what model of Benelli? It's the Ultralight as mentioned above.

I like the latitude of red dot placement with the cantilever mount as I prefer the red dot quite far from my eye.


Sorry. The OP.
Posted By: Strick9 Re: Sight options. - 05/02/16
As tough as turkey hunting is and as much as I think it would be neat I just can't run an optic on a turkey gun.. the potential for batteries running out, brightness setting failure, power button failure , reflective flash, nocking sight off etc just don't add up versus a good two bead system in my opine..
Posted By: Kenneth Re: Sight options. - 05/02/16
M1.
Posted By: Kenneth Re: Sight options. - 05/02/16
These truglo's, they just affix to the vent rib by screws or such?

Then you sight in with the windage adjustments and so?

you guys using these sights, are you basically turning the gun into a dedicated turkey gun and leaving the sights on full time?
Posted By: Odessa Re: Sight options. - 05/02/16
I use the Williams Firesights, they are like rifle sights and bolt around the rib (one front and one rear); been on there three years and haven't moved. Yes, I made that shotgun my dedicated turkey shotgun.
Posted By: NMSSHOOTER Re: Sight options. - 05/02/16
I will leave my sight on as long as I plan to use the 870. It had a headache for 2 days after 15 or better shots sighting it in and making sure it wasn't going to move
Posted By: Dave_in_WV Re: Sight options. - 05/02/16
Originally Posted by Kenneth
M1.


Burris makes a Speed Bead mount for the M1.
Posted By: Sand_Man Re: Sight options. - 05/03/16
Originally Posted by Strick9
As tough as turkey hunting is and as much as I think it would be neat I just can't run an optic on a turkey gun.. the potential for batteries running out, brightness setting failure, power button failure , reflective flash, nocking sight off etc just don't add up versus a good two bead system in my opine..


you are over thinking this one. I'm on year 5 with my Burris Fast Fire II without an issue and the same battery that came in the package. The battery was rated for 10,000 hours of use.
Posted By: tzone Re: Sight options. - 05/03/16
Ken, the speed bead mount on your benelli with a fastfire will be the ticket. I'm leaning towards that route I believe as well. I REALLY wish they'd make one for a 20ga tho.

I may have to have a 20ga d&t'd for amount so I can but a fastfire on it. We will see. My eyes aren't getting any better!
Posted By: Sakoluvr Re: Sight options. - 05/03/16
I have been using my FFII on my Ben SBE for at least 6 years. NO PROBLEMS and I love it.

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Posted By: gunnut308 Re: Sight options. - 05/03/16
My Truglo sights are identical to the sights on a Rem700. They work sort of like Weaver style bases. They are wedge shaped and clamp the sides of the rib which also creates a downward clamp.

Four screws on the front sight and four on the rear. Fast on the draw also, I'll squirrel and duck hunt with them with no worries.
Posted By: Kenneth Re: Sight options. - 05/03/16
regarding the speed bead, a video mentions slight modifications to the stock to allow the stock to accept the speed bead, any alterations required?

Roger, it sounds like your tru-glo's would mount quickly and easily, a couple of screws? would these screws possibly mar, scuff or compromise the camo coatings on shotguns?
Posted By: ShortMagFan Re: Sight options. - 05/03/16
Originally Posted by Sand_Man
Originally Posted by Strick9
As tough as turkey hunting is and as much as I think it would be neat I just can't run an optic on a turkey gun.. the potential for batteries running out, brightness setting failure, power button failure , reflective flash, nocking sight off etc just don't add up versus a good two bead system in my opine..


you are over thinking this one. I'm on year 5 with my Burris Fast Fire II without an issue and the same battery that came in the package. The battery was rated for 10,000 hours of use.


Ditto

Posted By: gunnut308 Re: Sight options. - 05/03/16
The screws never actually touch the gun. The wedge clamp design gets a helluva bite but I doubt it would mar the finish.
Posted By: taz4570 Re: Sight options. - 05/04/16
Speed Bead and FFIII. Best combo I've ever used on my 870. Works well for any application. Currently using for spring turkey, but tried swinging on a few clays and had no problem. Keeps you low to the barrel for a very good mount.

The sight set up on the speed bead keeps the rig low and out of the way. That really minimizes snags on clothing, brush in the field or the gun case.
Posted By: MOGC Re: Sight options. - 05/05/16
My guess is that with the Speed Bead you don't have to raise the comb height? Many other sight options are going to require some method of adding comb height for a good mount and solid cheek weld.
Posted By: Kenneth Re: Sight options. - 05/05/16
this speed bead mount so close to your eye,

Just seems like there would be tons of parallax, No?
Posted By: Dave_in_WV Re: Sight options. - 05/05/16
Without magnification would there be parallax?
Posted By: Kenneth Re: Sight options. - 05/08/16
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What would magnification have to do with a single focal point being very close to your eye?
Posted By: Dave_in_WV Re: Sight options. - 05/09/16
I've never heard of parallax being a problem with dot type sights. Yes the dot seems to move with changing your head position but after the sight is zeroed and the dot is on target so are you. Maybe it is parallax but with dot sights it doesn't cause a miss like with a scope can.
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