what make of scope was it?
You bought the best of the 23's (23AA) and in excellent condition. Production date would be around 1937.
The magazine pictured with the "S" is a reproduction (reported to be made on the original tooling). The longer 5 rd. mag is from the 60's(?) and was used in another model that reguired a slightly longer magazine. Both should work fine.
Since your rifle has been D&T'ed (front holes are not factory) and you have the base (lucked out!)I would mount a good 1" rimfire scope (Weaver R2.5-7x28, etc.) on it and go shooting!
I was raised with one of those; my older brother has it now. Ours came from my grandfather in about 1949; he had had it since about 1935 and it was in excellent condition with three clips and an added Lyman peep sight and sling. We killed a truckload of ground squirrels and jackrabbits and crows and tin cans with it over the years.
Yours looks in equally good shape; hang onto those clips, they are hard to find and expensive and the "aftermarket" ones often don't work very well.
We used almost exclusively Winchester 37 gr. hollowpoints in ours; the gun eats them just fine and they kill varmints great. (Any other ammo we fired in my Remington 510 single shot).
I always appreciated the "overbuilt" feel of this rifle and the excellent workmanship all 23s, regardless of caliber, seem to have. (I've had all of them over the years, only kept a cherry, very late 23B .25-20).
It's a SAVAGE: well designed to serve ordinary people extraordinarily well. Enjoy!
what make of scope was it?
It was a weaver D4, pretty dim and blurry.
Thanks for the information, I will probably get a pair of 1" rings and mount a decent 4x on it, (I think a good K4 would look right), not a fan of the tip-off rail, but I would probably have a hard time finding a weaver base to fit the holes.
You are probably okay with a K4 but I would stick with a good 1" rimfire scope that is set for 50 yards vs. a centerfire scope that is set for 100 yds or more.
+1 what Rick said. Another option, although it might seem spendy, would be to have a K4 set up for 50-75 yards. Ironsight works on them IIRC. They bought out the stock of repair parts from Frank when he decided to retire (Weaver Scope Repair Service).
Nice find! I look for these at all gun shows, etc... . As Mesa says the "overbuilt" feel is great. Have not run across one worth consideration yet.
When I was young one of the 2 guns we had was a .22 (Eastern Arms IIRC). It had no mag and we took off the peep. It was also "overbuilt" and beat up. Real good shooting gun even though it's entire life was spent abused. Not sure what ever happened to it, would like to have it back. The Savage 23's remind me of it's feel and I wonder if it was actually made by them.
BTW, the other gun was a 12 gauge single shot. It might have been "Eastern Arms". Full choke with duck tape holding the forearm. Those 2 took many squirrels, etc... in my youth
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Matt:
Here's a picture of mine and for what its worth, I also have a Kimber Model 82 and this Savage is everybid as accurate as the Kimber. Nice gun that Model 23AA.
Elwood
That is a beauty. I really like the coloration of the wood.
"That is a beauty. I really like the coloration of the wood."
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Neat checkering; scope is well-proportioned to the rifle too. Outstanding rig!
Elwood,
That one is pretty! Like the checkering, the Weaver scope and looks like old Redfield mounts. I'd like to have mine set up like that.
Matt:
You have a fine looking rifle and I suspect it will be a shooter. Give the bore a good cleaning and get after it. It's fortunate that it came with a scope base. I agree with earlier suggestions, get a nice "smallish" scope that will fit the look of the rifle and you'll have a nice rig.
I've had my Model 23AA on here before...It came from a older gentleman that once worked for Winchester and I figured he got someone there to do a little work on it. I wish it had a better trigger but that's about all I'd change.
Elwood
Elwood's looks to have a Weaver K2.5 or K3 mounted. There are plenty out there and they can be refurbished if need be. I'm sure Elwood will come back and let us know which it is. Another avenue is the Weaver J4 or J2.5 with a 3/4 inch body. Still a good scope for a small bore rifle even if only 3/4 inch.
If you have to get a "modern" (I mean new) scope for it, look at a Weaver V3 or the Burris "Ridgeline" compact 4X. They approximate the small, straight tube scopes of the past. I have the V3 on several Savage smallbores and like it at 2X for small game at "woods" (here that means chaparral and rocky canyons) ranges. Very quick.
I really like the look of Elwoods 23!
Also, Leupold is now making the straight tubed, fixed 3x M8 again if you really want to drop some change on a nice scope.
Yeah..Skidrow's right, mine has a K3 on it. And it had a K3 on it when I got it but not this one. Right after I got it, a friend and I had some guns out and when we finished he said, " I have some really good stuff to clean a scope" and proceeded to spray my K3. Stuff was suppose to be some kind of "super-duper" lens cleaner (made by Ziess I think) or some such. Anyway...after he sprayed it, I wiped it off and looked down the scope and it was one oily mess...inside. The seal on the old scope wasn't too good and that stuff (whatever it was) went right in and attached itself to the inside of the lens. Can't remember what I did with that scope....might have sent it for repair/cleaning or traded it. Anyway, watch what you spray on these old scopes.
Elwood
Matt:
Back to your rifle....I've seen several Model 23AAs and yours is about as clean and straight as any I've laid eyes on. The metal and wood both are in great shape. Mine has been messed with and yours hasen't. You have a fine piece there and I hope you let us know how it shoots.
Under-rated fine old 22's...they are.
Elwood
I really like the looks of that K3 and will be on the lookout for one, I think a vintage scope will fit it best. I had one some time ago, but sold it because I didn't like the post reticule, I need to find one with a crosshair.
Matt:
I have a K2.5 with "dot" reticule and also a Lyman "All American" 2.5 with the "dot" reticule if you're interested. Both work fine as far as I know...be glad to help a fella out if you can live with either of these.
Elwood
A few of the 19 & 23 toys...
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Sm port 1919, late 1919, NRA19 w/inset guard, NRA19 later w/non-inset guard, 23A early, 23A late, 23AA
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Factory checkered 23-D, late style 23-B, early 23-B, early 23-C, 23AA, 23AA (both with Weaver 29-S mounted w/factory D&T holes)
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19-H .22Hornet, 19-33, last version 19-33, 87M Springfield
I purely love those. But how'd that jammamatic sneak in with the quality folk?
(What is that thing, anyway? Every time I think I know something about Savages, somebody shows me one I never saw before!).
Mike Armstrong
...it's a Springfield 87M. It must have snuck into the photo when I had my back turned.
Savage produced the 87M and a Sears Ranger version after WWII for commercial sale. I think Savage designed it as a training rifle but the war ended before it was produced. Not many made.
I'm impressed with that fine pile of rifles. Good show Rick.
Elwood
Thanks, Rick. Seems to me a lot of the .22 mfrs. tried to make semiauto trainers for the newly "semiauto military". I seen to remember similar guns by Mossberg and H&R. I guess none of them had much appeal to the govt. once the war was over.
Matt:
I have a K2.5 with "dot" reticule and also a Lyman "All American" 2.5 with the "dot" reticule if you're interested. Both work fine as far as I know...be glad to help a fella out if you can live with either of these.
Elwood
That's a nice offer, Elwood, but we got it shootin' now. I found an old Leupold 4x with dot I had laying around, picked up some 1" tip-off rings, and got it mounted. Took it out to the range today and my son helped me get it dialed in. Shot Winchester bulk HP's real well. My son really enjoyed it. We would have shot all day if it weren't 101 degrees!
Wow, that is a nice assortment of rifles, Rick. The more I see of these, the more I would like to find one of the centerfire 23's. A 25-20 would be nice.
msj348 - Congratulations, nice 22 and your son looks very much the happy camper � or, er, make that the happy shooter.
Good deal Matt....that Lupe is a better scope than either of the ones I offered. Enjoy.
Elwood
I have a 23AA Sporter with one original magazine and two extra, one is a 10 round. Can someone take a look down the barrel of their 23AA and let me know if the rifling is fairly shallow. I bought this one for my shooter buddy, and after cleaning all the crap out, the rifling looks pretty shallow.
Thanks in advance for any help.