I'm bored. Let's bring up some 22's.. Any 22's..


Model 342 in 22 Hornet made in 1950.




Model 19H in 22 Hornet made in the mid-30's with the barrel band.
Model 23AA in 22 with checkering made in early 40's has the schnabel forearm.








Late 1899H in 22HP with metal buttplate.





Model 29A pump.

[img]http://www.savagefest.net/my_99s/29A/Right_Full.JPG[/img]


Had this one for a while, but it moved along. 1979 99C in 22-250.

[img]http://www.savagefest.net/my_99s/1979_99C_22_250/Left_Full.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.savagefest.net/my_99s/1979_99C_22_250/Box.JPG[/img]

Savage 1911 .22 Short bolt action. Cool little thing with a tube magazine in the buttstock. Sold to another member here a few years ago.



Savage Model 1903 pump with a Marble's simplex tang sight. Sold this one too.


Rod

Savage Arms-Westpoint model 121 seies A 22 bolt action single shot--got it for like $25




Stevens Favorite mdel 30 Joshua Stevens commemmorative serial number LTD 0016--bought it at a gunshow March 2011 for $160

Another 1903 chambered for short only. The aftermarket magazine has been replaced with the correct factory magazine.

I thought about grabbing this one... model 3

Steve
That's a Dandy looking 1903.
Steve

Here are some, a Winchester, Stevens Visible loader and a BSA snuck in there somehow.

This is a great thread & some great rifles. Rory never seen a barrel band like that one down here.

Thanks for putting these up, a real cold morning so another cup of tea and look at em all over again


Johno

My son with the 03 and a 29-A













[img]http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/Mudslicks/Savage%2029A/Savage29A006.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/Mudslicks/Savage%2029A/Savage29A007.jpg[/img]

Wow some killer 22 rimfires out there! I don't own any RFs but have a few center fires...

Standard Catalog 1899H in 22HP









lower one is 1899H in 22HP with a P/G



Another 1899H with some engraving, checkering and a P/G



[img]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/lohmaraj/1899H%20BC%20in%2022HP/IMG_1624.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/lohmaraj/1899H%20BC%20in%2022HP/IMG_1635.jpg[/img]

A faux 22HP EG

[img]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/lohmaraj/22HP%20EG/DSCN1365.jpg[/img]

A legit 22HP EG- sorry I don't have better pics... has a T-7 mount with a Lyman 29S

[img]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/lohmaraj/22HP%20EG/leftside.jpg[/img]

Drew, I don't know how you guy's find them in that condition.
That H in the first photo has a lot of blue. You would never see that down here. Ive got one of the best 22 h.p ive come across and it has no where near that condition.

I think both here and N.Z. they really were a stocman/farmers tool

Not even going to mention your other ones, just makes me sick LOL Don't know why I open these posts

Johno

cuse you like to drool and slobber andgo green with envy hi john




i,ll try to get a few pics up

norm

Here is a picture of my Grandfather's 1914 Savage.He carried it for many years.I'd love to here all the stories if it could tell.

Gary,

An in the box model 3 with condition. I'm surprised it didn't sell.

I've owned a few M1903 .22's but none at present. Here's a bit bigger .22 I have here:

Oops, here's another one. This one is stamped, "G.N.P." near the serial number. "Great Neck Police"? Maybe they read about the performance of the .22HP on tiger and figured they needed one, "big gun" on hand?






[img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/steve004/Marlin/Savage/SavageRemingtonandChristmas035.jpg[/img]
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[img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/steve004/Marlin/Savage/SavageRemingtonandChristmas029.jpg[/img]

The only Savage .22's I have are in CF. Here's the fave, 1899H.



I do have a Stevens 87 (Savage 6?) with Tenite stock, that my grandfather bought at a country auction for $1.50, about 50 years ago. Cheap even for then, because the butt was broken clean off behind the wrist. He epoxied it back together, and included a red plastic diamond 'inlay' in the repair. Worth today not a heckuva lot more than what he paid for it, but priceless to me- plus it functions and shoots beautifully. (Love the "clack-clack" of the action.)

having grandpas gun that he used a lot is way cool!

Steve
That a Fine looking Take Down, I Have a Savage with Police Dept Markings on it in 303, it's up north,It Has G.C.P.D.(Granite City Police Dept.) but it will be at fest.
Steve

93R17, 1904, 1905, 1903, 1909, 1911, 1912, 1922, 1933, #7, 25 and a 29.

Joe, I think that scope and bipod would look better on the 1904, don't you? Well, maybe the 1903.

beautiful guns ,sure ilke thatcheckering

norm

here's my GiftSavage 1905

and a Savage(Anschutz) sporter

A recent modification to a safe - it uses velcro strips to allow flexable positioning of the cross bars on the left & has had extra barrel size slots added to the right, it more than doubles the stated capacity when positioned for 22 pumps.


In many cases they say that a gun looks better than the picture - not the case here, I was surprised to see how well the pictures came out. In coin collecting something like this would be called a 'filler' and the intent would be to eventually upgrade - considering what a nice one recently sold for I think I might have to keep this one a long time.

real nice gun Gene ,you might have to buy a few more safes

I like that one a lot.. an Expert? And I'm feeling better about my gun safe after seeing yours.

Rory,
I don't feel better about my safe, just a little more envious.... Nice collection of rifles Gene.

I just love this gun porn...

Gene
Extremely Nice. I see 7 open Spots on the Left? Airing some out?
Hope to see the Engraved One and other's up at Fest.
I need to Bring Mine Along this time so ya can help date for me!

Steve, I think you are seeing buttplates, not open spots. Gene needs another safe.

Roger
Your are absolutely correct, need to get my Glasses on.

That 1903 is an Expert & I was not kidding when I said the pictures made it look better - it was not owned by an 'expert' - the right side has only slight traces of blue & the rest has the appearance of a cold blue that has gray-browned out, the stock is full of scuffs & dings ... but it still is an example that has enough detail to show what they are; even though rough it is was left almost all original which gives an indication of what it started out as, which is what is needed to do research, even a trace of original finish is better than �restored� for that IMO.

That safe has 58 22's in it, pumps & Model 12 semi-autos - don't ever ask for a picture of a gun from the back. That safe has most of my better Savage's 22's, if you look to the left in the picture you will see the corner of another safe � that may or may not be the extent of the safes �� could be something to the right where the door blocks the view ....

Besides, I do have more than just Savage's, I need a place for the Marlins - here are some, I thought these were neat until I started getting more into the Savage's. Several of these pictured are gone but I also added a couple recently.

Gene, that Expert would look really good with my early Leader Grade - it was well used also. Maybe you should send it over for a visit and let the kids get to know each other?

Plan to have it at the Savage Fest, at least they can meet there. I will have examples of 1903's in grades GM, Gold Medal (2) and Expert. There seems to be more interest in 22's recently so I am looking at taking more than I originally planned - in just 1903's I am looking at bringing between 14 & 18 depending on how minor of differences I want get into.

Wow! Those are really some nice .22s and even better that they are Savages! I am thinking about a new Savage model 25 in .22 Hornet. But the old ones are so much nicer!

I think you are going to need a bigger safe soon.

Some 1912's



So, what if you ever need parts for one .......
.... two different cartridge quides & at least four different bolts ...



... four different variation of magazine, two different action slide assembly's, the early type had a spring to keep it in unlocked postion and only relied on friction to keep the action open, later style snapped into either position.


... different barrel stamps ...


... this shows a milled releif used to support the action lock that was use on 1909's & pre-1914 1903's, it was eliminated in later 1903's $ 1914's. Since 1912's didn't use an action stop it's not needed and ususally not found on 1912's. I know this is a 1912 part because I took the parts from it. The ejector is in a 1912 in Canada now. Even if it wouldn't have had the other parts it could be identified as 1912 because of the straight lower tang & four digit serial number, a 1909 would be the same but would have a 100,000 plus serial number, an early 1903 would also have a four digit serial & straight lower tang but would have a different design ejector. It also should be noter that the 1912 hammer is different than a 1903 & 1914 and I have been informed they do not interchange by a member who tried an 1912 in a 1903.
[img]http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa105/GeneBB/Baker-1912/1912s00.jpg[/img]

The 1912 being a modification of the 1903 had much of it's design covered by the 1906 patent for the 1903 which was stamped on the guns; here is the patent for the changes to make the 1912, I don't know if this patent were ever stamped on any 1912's - 1912 patent

now I am done boring everybody with minor details....

not boering ,,very informative

thanks norm

I wish you would write a book on Savage rimfires Gene.

Rod

Mercy, a guy could spend a lifetime deciphering and acquiring all the modifications to just one model Savage .22!

Great info, Gene. Thanks for taking the time.

My 7596 has a magazine with nickel follower.

Rick; I have found the version with the plated follower to be the most common (always with a pinned bottom), next is the blued follower with pinned bottom; I have only seen a couple without a pinned bottom and the version pictured with the late sheet metal follower is the only one of those I have ever seen, I had often wondered if the factory still had specially stamped magazine for the 1912 after the redesign.


How about some 'House Brands'

I bought the cabinet pictured at an auction, no instructions with it - I was really embarrassed when I found out that 'STACK-ON' was the name of the company & not the instructions for how to put guns in it...�


These I believe to have been made after Savage acquired Stevens and might be Savage's first attempt at house brands - they both are transitional having a mix of early & late parts. They are pictured with an early & late Visible Loader for comparison - note the early hammer with the action open, be careful where you have the web of skin between your thumb & pointer finger when you open one of these (the later version isn't much better... how I know this is a story best left untold in mixed company).



These Model 25 based ones are my favorites; I like the simple clean design. These represent all the Model 25 based ones I know of. The Ranger is the only one I have seen with the long grooved fore arm & all I have seen have it. The Premier's configuration also seems exclusive to it, late model 25 slide arm with two screws on the right & short forearm.



[img]http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa105/GeneBB/Savage%20pumps/housebrands01425.jpg[/img]

Model 29 based, this covers all the configurations I have seen but there are other brands than are shown here - Gamble's Pioneer Model 31 & a couple more for Wards that I know of and I assume Hibbard, Spenser & Bartlett would also have had one. The ladder sight on the Wards seems to have been only available from Wards and some models of guns were offered with it already on; the sight by itself was listed @ 50�. I have seen other examples of the Ranger with the Savage special sight set for the 29-S -

29-A based, all look the same & I never intended to get so many, most of the time these sell really reasonable (or real cheap) and are made as well as the Savage labeled ones, the Keystone on the bottom has a different fore arm but I think it's from a Noble pump or something, it doesn't quite fit right -

ive got an old savage/stevens .22.its a pioneer model 24 sold by gamble stores,magazine fed bolt action.any info is greatly appriciated.it looks like a model 84.
thank you

Stevens 22 tip-up

That's a dandy, Kenster. Black Diamond?

Thanks, dont know much about these.But its kinda fun to shoot!

Those post are a real live edjumacation in 22s Gene, thanks!

You betcha. It's been slow here of late. I needed a good .22 fix!

I am officially retired & now have a lot of time that I seem to already have become quite adept at wasting... but I decided to try & find the time to do at least one more group.

These were made by Stevens (pre-Savage) but the design patents are in Arthur J. Savage's name. These were only made a very limited time & had major problems with the stock attachment.



The first advertizements stated the gun would only be available in 22 SHORT - so why is that the rarest chambering?




22 7 1/2 = 22 WRF, an interesting feature is that these guns only pumped far enough to cycle the length of the round they were chambered for - I was really surprised when I first pumped the one in 22 Short, here is a comparison of the 4 -


The one in 22 S, L & LR had to be set for the round that was to be used -
[img]http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa105/GeneBB/Stevens%20Pump/Gallery80s005-1.jpg[/img]

Just after introduction the aluminum butt plate was dropped, I have only ever seen two and bought them both; I have never even found pictures of another. Also the front of the stock was capped to make a "more finished look" .... I think it was for an entirely different reason - an attempt to keep the stock from breaking and even that didn't solve the problem, there is just not a lot of wood left & it's only held on by the one screw that's to far forward - both these early stocks have major cracks & somewhat crude to really crude repair work -
[img]http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa105/GeneBB/Stevens%20Pump/Gallery80s004.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa105/GeneBB/Stevens%20Pump/Gallery80cat52insert90.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa105/GeneBB/Stevens%20Pump/Gallery80s011.jpg[/img]

Gallery 80 cont. (there seems to be a limit on how many pictures can be in a single post)

From what I understand about patents they were in effect for 17 years from issue date with some adjustment if they were delayed to long after the application date - just doing some rough math I get 1890 + 17 = 1907 which is just about the time this rifle was issued, but it's probably just a coincedence and probably means nothing -


Notice how the 1890, although chambered for 22 SHORT, strokes far enough for a 22 WRF which was the longest cartridge it was available in.






I seriously doubt that the 'Gallery 80' ever got much use in an actual gallery, the stock attachment wasn't very good and they were a design that would have been unfamilier to anyone trying to use them; this probably would have required the operator to constantly be involved in instructing the customers which would not have made them a money maker.

Although the patent is in Arthur J. Savage's name and it's real interesting gun, IMO it is the worst of Arthur W. Savage's designs (someday I'll explain what I mean by that).

Just an amazing collection Gene