In keeping with the Forum's traditions, I went with my heart over my head and paid too much for a gun I don't need in a caliber I don't really care for.

1927 99G 300 Savage





I was motivated, in part, because I wanted a companion for my 1927 Ithaca NID 12 gauge:

Nah, you didn't pay too much - you just bought it early. (a philosophy I learned at Savage Fest last week)

Looks like a nice, honest rifle! Great pair of guns for some deer/grouse hunting also.

I want to thank each and every one of the enablers who populate theses pages. I know that I would not have done it without you.

Glad we could help.

Hey, anytime!

These bastids been doin it to me for years. Fricken enablers.

Beautiful gun.

But:

I'm curious to know what it is about the 300 Savage you don't like?

Shoot it a few times. Take a walk in the woods with it. Get a set of dies and handload for it a bit. I'll bet you in time you'll come to love it.

Yes, like 99guy ask... what's "not-to-like" about the .300 Savage cartridge?

It's a "perfect" whitetail cartridge (100-250 yards using 125-150 grain bullet) that will easily take elk, caribou or moose (100-150 yards using a 165-180 grain bullet)

It's very "hard" on black bear as well... again, within it's range (100+ yards or so with a 165-180 grain bullet.

And it's recoil is only a little greater than a .243... so please tell me, what am I missing?


Strength & Honor...

Ron T.

Yeah, what is not to like........
except might be critters don't like it....

The OP doesn't hunt.

I like to.....

No lasting harm done. A solid Ithaca NID in a sub gauge is on my list too.

I had a 95% Ithaca N.I.D. in 20 gauge,But DGF liked it a bit better then i did,still have 2 10 gauges,1 the rare 3 1/2" magnum gun from 1932, a 12 and 1 more 20,those things breed almost as much as the savage 1899,99,s do !!!!!

Bingo!

From the recoil tables it looks like the 300 kicks a little more than I want.
And it's more expensive than other rounds I use at the range.
But what the heck, I plan on enjoying my new gun.

I find the .300 recoil to be not much different than the .30-30 but I realize everyone has their own feelings on that.

Reloading is the great equalizer when it comes to the cost of ammunition!

The 300 is a little snappy in the G

Hardly unmanageable compared to a light 12 gauge double barrel...

You'll never feel either when you are shooting at game.

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Bushmaster, my friend...

My hunting handloads for my .300 Savage round consists of 40.8 grains of H4895, a 150 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip bullet, a standard Winchester primer in Winchester cases in my 1953 Model 99 (EG) with a 24-inch barrel kicks less than a .270 Winchester, a .308 Winchester and much less than a .30/06 and a great deal less than my .338 Winchester Magnum... all of which I've previously shot.

And as I previously posted, it kicks only slightly more than a .243 Winchester... which I've also fired. I'd guess my hunting load recoils with about 14 foot/pounds of recoil... an amount which almost any man would barely notice regardless of what the recoil tables at which you looked indicate.

"Sensed" recoil is a combination of several factors, those being the weight of the bullet, the weight of the powder charge, the weight of the rifle in which the round is fired and how well the rifle fits you, personally.

The lighter the bullet and powder charge, the less the recoil. The heavier the rifle, the less the "sensed" recoil... and it the rifle "fits" you well, the recoil is more of a "PUSH" than a sharp "jab" IF the rifle is held tight against your shoulder so the recoiling rifle doesn't get a "head start".

If you'd like a little lighter recoil in the .300 Savage, merely load 125 or 130 grain bullets and keep your powder loads a tad on the conservative side.

Such a loaded round will most certainly easily still kill whitetails, but you may have to limit the range of your shots a bit more... keeping them down to 150 yards or less... not all together a bad idea since I'm found in over 50 years of hunting and shooting that most hunters who only fire their rifles during hunting season can rarely hit very much beyond 150 yards.

I still chuckle when I think of a fellow hunter who shot a doe deer in the Pennsylvania woods we were both hunting... and showed me the spot from which he took his shot and, of course, I could see his deer laying about 90 yards away along the pipeline. I had to turn my back and hide my grin when he told me about his "200 yard shot" he took at his deer which was laying absolutely no more than 90 yards away.

"So much" for those fabled "200 yard shots" !~!~!

As recommended previous by another Forum Member, you may find yet another great hobby by getting into reloading your own ammo. It's not only a lotta fun, but the cost savings over buying factory ammo is considerable... often your reloads will cost you about a quarter to a half as much as factory rounds... depending on what components you use.

In addition, you will be able to "custom-fit" your hand-loads to obtain the maximum accuracy out of your rifle by "custom" fitting the load your rifle "likes".

Most experienced Model 99 owners/reloaders will tell you that they can usually obtain one inch or less 3-shot groups at 100 yards off a bench-rest... and, if you're a good shot, you can usually count on getting 3-shot groups BETTER than an inch.

But... in the final analysis, it's your rifle and your decision to make. That said, I believe you'll find it VERY rewarding to hand-load for your .300 Savage and I am confident you'll find it an excellent deer cartridge as well as a fine cartridge for "hogs" and black bear.

Ok... 'nuff said.


Strength & Honor...

Ron T.

I'm green with envy again!

If your 300 is zeroed at 200 yards with Remington 150 grain Core-lokts it will hit 2.5" high at 100 and 10" low at the 300. If you know this and you know the range, any rifleman with moderate range time can hit and kill what he is aiming at out to 300 yards.

What part of 'The OP doesn't hunt' didn't you catch?

Steelhead...

Oh, I saw it, Pard... but I didn't see anyplace where you said that you knew the man personally... so what makes you so sure he doesn't hunt?

Don't hunt.
I'm in it for the guns.

So Steelhead was correct... wonder how he knew? I bet it's that crystal ball he's got, eh? Hahahahahahahaha...

Then you've still picked up a nice rifle that is in decent enough condition that it will continue to accrue value as long as you hold on to it. As far as range shooting goes it's pretty easy on the shoulder and as accurate as you are. Think of it as a .308 light.

I don't post guesses.

If anyone has a 99 that they consider to have excessive recoil, I'll be happy to ease your pain...

Ron, would you not be able to kill a black bear at 10 yards with a turdy-turdy? The 300 savage with a 165 nosler part. will have more velocity and energy at 200 yards than a 30-30 at 10 yards. Dont under est. the the 300 .

I hope to be able to hit a 9 inch gong from the standing or one knee position at 100 yards with a Lyman aperture rear sight.

I expect it to be great fun.

Range report as soon as the 99 is delivered.