I know where there is an upcoming auction with 20 99's and 1899's listed. I believe some of these are pretty high end ones. Now I know that posting auction links is frowned upon here so if you want the info pm me. The guns listed are
1899F combination 300 savage/410 shotgun.cased factory set.mfg 1926
1899 takedown 250-3000 22" barrel mfg 1921
99EG 300 savage 24"barrel checkered
1899 takedown 30-30. 26" barrel marbles tang peep site
1899 cd 38-55 26"octagon to round barrel special order B grade checkering
mfg. 1904
99G takedown 300 savage. 24" barrel wooden takedown case and red Indian box of ammo
1899 30-30. 26" barrel lyman rear tang peep site
99H carbine 30-30 20" barrel lyman rear tang peep site mfg 1931
99G takedown 250-3000 22" barrel mfg 1921
99A carbine 250-3000 20" barrel
1899 takedown "The Imp" 22 hi power 2" barrel mfg 1918
1899 303 26" octagon barrel crescent butt plate barrel stamped FEK mfg 1917
99A 243 20" barrel
1899 takedown 25/35 26" barrel mfg 1920 professionally restored
99M DE Citation grade. 243 22" barrel engraved nickel receiver unfired with box
99 300 savage 24" barrel
99 300 savage 24" barrel engraved scope rings
99 300 savage 24" barrel
99 takedown 250-3000 22" barrel checkered chip at tang mfg 1915
99 300 savage 24" barrel rubber recoil pad sling and period 4x scope



not trying to stir up any trouble and will not be attending this auction but thought maybe some of you would be interested....trying to be an enabler for you savage addicts!

I don't agree with posting auction, but you might as well post the rest of the information now, you say you will give it out in a PM anyway. I do want you to ask yourself - Why don't people ever post an auction they are going to be bidding at? ...and then ask yourself, if you were going to this auction to bid on something that you were really interested in, would you still post it? ...or want someone else to post it? I have no interest in any of these guns and will not be going, but I would not post it, let a person who puts his own time into finding these auctions bid with a little less competition, maybe that way they will get a bargain for their efforts.

PM's work fine, it's the lurkers that are coming here and bidding everything up on us, can't see a lurker pm'ing a member for the info.

It's putting "Live auction" in the title of a thread that gets me shaking my head. So....because you put live auction in the title that means nobody else is going to bid against you now?

Bearschlayerx2, Thanks for posting. I think it's consistent with the congenial nature of the Campfire to share precisely such info.
I, respectfully, disagree with GeneB. In the age of the internet and Google, only the luddites think such information is secret.
A little piece of me wants to use stronger language.

Go ahead and use stronger language.

You think we came up with this s**t because everything was working out well here when we were posting auctions? We were getting nailed by lurkers, thats why we try not to post live auctions anymore. 20 other guys will read it and now you've got 20 more guys upping the bids.....think about it. Were taking care of each other here by not posting live auctions, we all know how to find stuff when we want it.

It just took me all of two seconds to find this auction with Google, Sunday Feb 12 starting at 8:30 am.

Real hard.

WTF?

posting auctions works for the seller...

I agree, it's not secret, it's out there for anyone with enough effort to sit behind a computer to find it themselves ... so, then why do people feel the need to post it all again? Isn't there going to be enough competition without doing that?

Use your strong language if you wish, but at least use it to answer one of my questions - if you found an auction for something you were really interested in would you post it here? ...or want someone else to? Nobody has ever posted a live auction they are interested in themselves - I prefer that auctions I am going to bid on are not posted here and I do not post live auctions I am not interested in to show the same courtesy to others who have found an auction on their own and may not want it posted.

I also go one step farther, I sell occasionally on eBay and I have not, and will not, post my own auctions, I know other here that do the same. Do me one favor, if you find something at auction that you really have been looking for, and really want, post it here while live to show your own sincerity and commitment to what you say.

When I'm dead and my heirs need to sell my Shìt to pay the bills I sure hope they hire an auctioneer who will promise not to advertise the sale......
and those pesky family members better keep their mouths shut.
'Cept of course, they should tell a couple old collectors, who want to "steal shìt" from the estate....
They have my heirs best interest in mind, I'm sure.

I wonder if the old guys want all that "competition" to show up at their estate sale?
I'm betting they want everyone to "know", that day.

Post it all this is AMERICA freedom of speech is your right
this started with the Jed rule keep these things a secret so you can buy cheap and then sell high to your friends or the others here who would buy cheap and brag about it to drive the price of the Savage's down to their level today is a new day in AMERICA time to tell the truth as far as the price of Savage's go the sight has worked hard to drive the price of our collections down rats are great and good guns get S--- on because if I'am not willing to pay the price it has to be junk
or made up if I can't steal it I won't buy it or if it's not on paper some place it is wrong only a few here could tell a real Savage from a made up one.This was a collector sight for the good of all Savage lovers it's to bad it has come to this.

True, thats why more and more of us are hanging around the other place more often these days.

See, this kind of arguing is what happens every time live auction information is posted.

Personally I enjoy conversations over the 1896 military trials or the peep sights that were present on 1920's (and I just noticed there were difference checkering patterns on early 1920's) and things like that rather than listening to people complain about live auctions.

In short, I don't learn anything from live auctions that I can't learn from it once it's closed. And there's a lot less drama here without the postings.

Just me. Carry on. No matter what, be thankful..

You are entitled to voice your own opinion and there is nothing stopping anyone from posting live auctions (which I think are always actually advertised somewhere else, at least I would hope so). I will bend a little with some estate auctions because I know what you are saying, but unless you know it's an estate and will benefit the heirs, you may just be helping out someone who bought out a collection from a poor widow for pennies on the dollar.

I am just voicing my opinion which I know many do not agree with. But I am not talking about when your dead, I asked one simple question about posting an auction you are actually interested in yourself, while your alive. I never seem to get someone to answer that. If you want to discuss this, answer some of my questions and give me some good reasons why I should change my opinion. You may even use strong language if you wish.

To anyone who would may feel guilty if they get a bargain, there is nothing stopping you from writing the check for a lot more! On eBay you can always edit the paypal up to what you feel you should pay. I hear more talk from people who think prices are running to high on average at many auctions than those who think they are to low. You often hear about someones bargains but very seldom something they paid to much for.

Added - Just saw some posts made while I was writing this about what the site has come to, how far back are you looking? Since I joined in 2007 the posting of live auctions has always seemed to come out about the same, in fact, to me, it seems more toned down than some in the past were.

In case some of you Einsteins haven't figured it out, I'm not like the rest of you. Neither is Gnoahhh. Or Norm. Or Stever. And one Joe isn't like the other Joe. But the loss of one, however different, is still a loss for the rest. Intolerance in politics is preferred for the preservation of what's right. Intolerance among friends is self defeating. If I drive a GeneB or a Calhoun off, will I be richer for it?

Why's everyone so eager to cut another down? Seems the bigger problem to me. Some of you need to get off your high horse, quit looking down your nose, and relax, enjoy the ride.

People will be people. Prepare for it, or prepare for solitude.

I'm very familiar with the venue in which those Savages will be auctioned off. It also only took me about two seconds (well, maybe three) to click on the bookmark I keep of that auction house. (The OP's location was the tip-off.) I've been there quite a few times, and have bought some interesting things. Like any auction, it's a crap-shoot whether you get a bargain or not, but they do run a clean auction. It's just that you are in a room with a couple hundred other gun-savvy guys, and auction fever happens. (O lord, how I know!) It's not like an internet auction where you can take your time and deliberate on it before raising your bid...

I was planning to attend this auction regardless. I was aware of it for a while now. If anybody wants to go along, hit me up. (I actually have my eye on a couple of non-Savage items.)

A man needs to be true to his convictions. It's what makes you who you are in this world.

A man also needs self-examination when someone points out the need for it.

Stick with the other one, he can't see through your BS yet.

Well-said FB,
If this thread is merely tossing gasoline on a dying fire, have at it, I'm out. But if it is a examination of what works and what doesn't, in our support of Savages, and our savage support of each other, then count me in.

High horse, meet rider.

I thought my original post was not that bad and not worded harshly enough to get the response it did... but I should have known better! I did not say that It couldn't be done, there are no rules against it, I said I don't do it and gave my reason for that in questions as food for some thought. I even said as long as part of the information was posted you might as well post the rest of the information, it was said it would be given out anyway, so at that point why not?

I have yet to have someone address my questions in a logical civil manner that would make me change my opinion, most people don't seem to mind getting a bargain, we hear about it here all the time, but it seems there are also many who don't want to see someone else get bargain. I still don't like it when an auction I am bidding on gets promoted by someone not really involved, so I am of the conviction in an auction I am not involved in (internet or live - especially live!), I will keep my nose out of it and if someone gets a bargain I don't have a problem with that. If someone has an opinion different than that you are free to say so, but allow me the same for my opinions without threatening the use of "harsh language" in the place of a civil and logically worded statement explaining why.

I may, or may not have gotten a few bargains over the years through auctions, but if anyone has been paying attention to my posts I seldom (and I don't think ever) have quoted what I've paid for anything - another of my convictions that doesn't seem to fit in with the norm here.

I will still be here sharing any information I find or helping with any question where I think I can... but I also will still have the same opinion about posting auctions!

I wouldn't post a up coming auction if I were looking to buy something in it.. but I could care less if someone advertises here ...
it's a dog eat dog world with auctions. But I agree with Doug it's seams like everyone here wants to suppress the 99..
I regularly attend gun shows as I know lots of you guys do.
Take a look around .. 99's are drying up big time. winchesters are every where. they made millions of them.. what do the young guys see ? what are they gonna learn about and take interest in ? any of you put a value on your collections?
I'm with Doug.
thats my 2 cents so let the bashing begin ..

PLAB

I did just get new glasses. I still haven't figured out how to do the smiley face things? I really don't care about posting live auctions, but when I read the rules, they said don't. I'm kind or a rule oriented person, so I don't. Like Gene said, if I'm bidding on something, I don't post it. But, I usually call the folks around here that I respect and ask if they have seen the item and if they are bidding. If the opening bid is $300, and I'm willing to go $500, and my friend says he'd go $600, I'm not going to bid at all. If it sells for $305, good for my friend. I will conspire to keep a price as low as I can for another 24 member. If I go to a live sale with a bunch of friends and see something I can't live without, I'll tell them, I'm taking that thing home come hell or high water! I would hope they wouldn't bid against me just to see if I'd really go that high. If they tell me they really want something, I back of and say go for it, it's just stuff. This Joe, often referred to as a Fat Dog, respects the other Joe and would rather see picks of his collection and learn about the MHG than waist time talking about auctions, Joe

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STOUDTS-BREWING-FAT-DOG-Imperial-stout-TIN-SIGN-/222368584041?hash=item33c6335169:g:2ccAAOSwa~BYRvG3

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STOUDTS-BREWING-FAT-DOG-Imperial-stout-TIN-SIGN-/222368584041?hash=item33c6335169:g:2ccAAOSwa~BYRvG3

I guess I didn't get that copy and paste thing down right yet, Joe.

You make a very good point Joe, this thread should be null and void if we just stick to the guidelines. Not really rules as some guys choose to ignore them anyways.

The original intent of having an internet site to chat about guns (and knives)was..., what?
- to learn more about guns! Right?

If this site continues to teach about Savages, great!

If it becomes a contest measuring who makes money buying or selling, I won't waste my time, (which is WAY more valuable than my money or my guns!).

I want to learn more about Savages, sure, so I don't waste my time or money buying worthless junk, (...thats why I'm not on the sites about mossbergs), but also because they are very neat old machines, and I love neat old machines!!

But it is always up to me, and me alone, whether a purchase, or sale, or time spent, has value.

Who made the rule? The people who don't want you to see a live Auction end of story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now, now, now.. I just recently bought a junker, and it also was a Mossberg... because I was trying to learn more about them. It was, however, a really rare version of their pump 22 that used a design that had patents in the name of two of Arthur Savage's sons - sometimes junk (and even Mossbergs) can be a research tool (but only if you can't find a nice example!). I believe this gun was actually designed by Arthur Savage and patented in his sons name only for legal reason, can't prove it but there is information that points to that. This is also the design that the Savage Model 29 was based on, the patents ran out in 1929 - unlike most other Savage guns you will not find any patent information stamped on a Model 29 because it was not based on any of their own patents.

Mossberg Model S

PS, I will not post the price I paid for this, not because I thought I got a bargain, but to save myself some embarrassment.

Wow I didn't expect all this. I thought the live auction rule was for online auctions that were happening live as we type. This auction isn't until February 12 and they do not have online bidding. I thought I was doing something to help fellow members find a higher end gun that maybe isn't available very often. As far as posting ebay auctions I have parted out probably 20 guns in the last couple months...some savages...and not said a word here to help my sales because they were live as in happening while I was typing auctions.I don't post here a lot but I do look and read here every day. After all this childish bickering I may not even do that anymore.

SEE! Now that's what I'm talking about! Education. Thanks for that Gene!

I am given the opportunity to re-examine and re-evaluate myself, and I hereby officially rescind my judgement of Mossbergs.

Just like the good ole' days.

Yawn.

I'll take it.

Can we have a link now the cats out the bag, i'd like to look at them to pass some time

Johno

I too agree with Doug.

My head hurts....

To me auctions are no more about the buyer than Reno and Vegas are about winners (gambling wise that is). Auctions are for the seller and they are intended to drive prices to the max, hence auction fever. You want a bargain look elsewhere. As for auctions you always need to set a price point and stick to it. Sometimes coming home with nothing is a clear victory. Finding bargains at an auction can be a bit like the blind squirrel finding a nut.

I've been away for the weekend,,,,,,,BUYING guns. Nonetheless, I heard about this thread going south. A fair number of you guys make me think you should be in L.A, Wash. D.C., or New York City with all the other women marching in protest. I've been buying guns for a fair number of years and have bought exactly FOUR from an auction site. ALL four guns were from sellers right here on the forum who happened to give themselves a plug. Some of you come here to a collectors site for the sole purpose of value seeking. Others come here and brag about bastardizing a rifle knowing it will undermine a collecting aspect. For years I was a bottom feeder picking up "what was left over". I am old and grumpy now, but finally can pick and choose what I want to buy. Never ONCE asking what it's worth. Only asking my self "What is it worth to me"?

New York was good to me again. I picked up the last 2 1899 "B"s. a 32-40 and a 38-55 to complete the 5. Both rifles have pristine bores

Below those are all 5 99-F's. Laying on the floor is over 16K. Not to brag, but I'm wondering how many here would have done the same. And in another week, I will be getting another rifle that was close to a king's ransom according to some. But I did it and it'll be mine to enjoy however I see fit. An EG in .358.

LBK, you have good luck, good taste and good logic. I also go on the premis of not necessarily whats it worth, but what is it worth to me. Thanks for the eye candy.

Actually I think plays a very small part, i'm thinking more hard work and research and being prepared to chase those specials one down.

Fantastic rifles mate

Johno

As you are so fond of pointing out, some rifles with poor or non-original condition have no collector value, "will never make it into this house".

So, WTF do you care if it gets sawed into little tiny pieces and sold as scrap iron?

Do you condemn a gunsmith for re-barrelling a Remington Model 700?

Do you condemn a stockmaker fro refitting a rifle with custom wood?

I find your elitist attitude funny in light of your experimenting and manufacturing non-original Stith mounts. I guess that's ok, but whatever someone else decides to try isn't?

Get off your high horse old man.

...and a hush fell over the crowd, as we bow to the true collectors...

LBK You have reached the end of the rainbow, and deserve every bit of treasure that you bring to yourself.

For myself, without the resources to invest that sort of money, the only joy left for us bottom feeders to blow sunshine up your skirts!

I have told others................THAT will not always be the case. I could have retired 7 years ago. Instead I continue to work every hour I can. I collect a pension from a previous job AND I collect a tidy sum every month from Soc Sec. THAT'S my gun money

Steve, welcome to the high horse club buddy!

I guess thats why they call this forum the Savage "Collectors" forum instead of rebarreled E's forum.

Nice group Steve keep up the good work!!!

Yeah, that's the Canadian forum.

Your to easy.

So here's the thing.

I don't feel the need to take any sheit off anyone for working on Savage 99's. I enjoy it, get it? I also collect Savages.

I like to work on them. Get it? Let me repeat it. I like to work on Savages, and I won't apologize for it. Not to anyone.

I don't modify desirable original rifles, like LBK likes to imply, pure bullsheit. Only guns with no collector value. Do I need to repeat that so it sinks into your thick Canadian cranium?

Tsk tsk are you upset?

No need for insults.

With me you get what you give. I have no use for azzholes.

Can't afford that New York stuff. The couple I bastardized were all ready bubbed and bought cheap. I enjoy them none the less!! There's a place in the world for all of us.

There's room for everyone here. David

Not really. According to LBK and Mad Dog those of us that work on our 99's, you know, the ones WE PAID FOR, aren't welcome here and are doing irreparable damage to mint vintage 99's, forever ruining prime specimens real collectors would quickly gobble up were it not for us butchering them.


That about it? GMAFB.

Come on guys, I expected to get my rear end run over here on this thread but my intention was not to get something going on a slightly different subject between others! You are butting in on my area, I am the person who many think is a Jerk and F'n a'zhole, and I have even been told that to my face by one of the contributors to this thread when at a gunshow, my response was" "yea, I know I can be" and "if you don't want to talk to me that's fine", but we did talk - I figure why try and deny something that's absolutely true? - especially when I don't really care (remember, I know I'm a f'n a'zhole, if I really cared I would try to change) - if you have ever looked at my profile here it says I'm a 'professional jerk' - unfortunately I am starting to question my professional abilities in that 'trade' when I seem to not be getting most of the attention. I had great expectations when I saw LBK had posted, but for once he disappoints when it comes to me.

I have had Superintendents where I worked call me worse than anyone here, or look like they wanted to, after it got me fired a couple times I did question my behavior a little, but that just never seems to last (but I shouldn't have to tell you guys that). This made me think of something to run by you all to see if you thought is was good idea -

I could make a list of all the insults & names & comments that have directed at me over the years and see if it could be made into a sticky, it woulds save a lot of time (and effort) to just be able to copy & past an insult when I start acting up then to have to think up a response... 'let's see, I used number 56 last time, I think I'll mix it up and maybe use number 602½ this time'. I can almost guarantee they will all be better responses than many I have gotten here - some of these came from PHD's when I was in school. I would however, insist they just be used for me, I do not want to be an enabler for someone trying take over part of what I consider my own 'territory'.

Come on guys, I'm placing myself here for you to pick on, no need to go after anyone else! Feel free to get it all out of your systems!

thanks for keeping the thread from going even farther south, LBK.

Though I really find it rude that you didn't post contact information for the seller of those guns so that we could make higher offers. [/sarcasm]

Beautiful guns tho, glad you're at a point in your life that you can afford top quality stuff.

Gene, I never noticed you being anything other than business. I like the more personable side of you.

Me, I try to be the same, nice to everyone, until they earn otherwise. Which some do, regularly. Then it's on. It can and will end when they want to end it, but it won't end if they want to continue it.

Let's twist some panties.

I'll play along...






This is a stevens single shot(model 86 I think) that I picked up cheap...grandson loved it.But it wasn't done very well so we got rid of it and now have a Stevens model 73 we are doing together for him.I also picked up a 20 gauge sidesnap single shot shotgun for my granddaughter that is going to be pink.

And Fireball I like some of the stuff you do. The way I see it, they are your guns to do with as you see fit. When someone steps up to pay my bills then they can tell me what to do with stuff I own.2 of the guns I parted out were savage 99's, but they were in bad shape.Missing a couple parts etc....They did not get offered here or anywhere on the internet. I still have a couple pieces from them that will get sold but not here.
My uncles collect Weatherby's. The one decided he wanted a 300 weatherby magnum "carbine". Took a gently used Lazermark and had the barrel chopped to 18 1/2". It is impressive to say the least. I asked why he used a Lazermark to cut up and his response was " they are what I like and its my rifle and I don't give a s**t who doesn't like it".


Boy this got way off track from posting about an auction house auctioning off some guns.
Maybe we should start a new thread about guns modified to your personal taste!

... but that's a 22!

Now ..... let us pray.

"...are any of these part of the auction?"

"what auction?"

Well, after a careful, and extensive review of all the photos,please put me down as requesting dibs on Steve's guns.

But at this time my financial situation only allows me to pay only 75 cents on the dollar.....

Thanks, Harry.

These are some of the last things i bought with gun money !



1949 Tucker Sno-cats s/n 58 and 59, and i do tinker on them !!!!!

Smart man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Loggah, you still have a picture of that short skidder gun you made? I really liked that.

Yup, still got the gun to.

with a shorty like that one you can run the woods with the snowcat, and shoot out the window! I made one also but mines not as Nice as Loggahs!

You guys are butchering nice collector rifles!!!!

Thems machines make something tingle in my loins. Very cool. Living in Michigan, I could put them to use.

I get kind of a "The Shining" vibe from them.

Happiness is

I just got done reading a book "outlaw gunners" about market hunting ,the hot setup in the day was the Browning humpback with a full length magazine tube,holding around 10 rounds !!!!!

Being only a few generations removed from the "outlaw gunning" era, there is a lot of lore and artifacts remaining on Maryland's Eastern Shore.

Heck, in some remote corners it never really went away. (If asked anymore about that, I plead the 5th. )

Whatcha doing with that old humpback, Roy?

So did anyone attend the auction today? I actually drove past and thought about stopping for a bit, but had the wife along and she wasn't thrilled...we were headed to Hanover to do a little "antiquing". If anyone went how were the prices and did you get anything?

I was there with Pugs. The 99's, for the most part were very nice. I didn't write down prices so I'm going by memory. A fairly decent cased set fetched $1700+change. A very nice .250 G brought $675, as did an 1899F .22HP. There was a .38-55 CD to die for that went $2500+. To be honest I didn't pay much mind to the pedestrian EG's and R's. I had my sights set on something that wasn't scheduled until late in the auction, so I husbanded my cash when I shoulda/coulda/woulda taken a swing at the .250 G or the H .22HP (like I need another HP like I need another hole in the head). The 99H BB .30-30 brought $1600 as I recall. All the prices struck me as being eminently fair, mostly.

There was an 1899A TD in .25-35 that had me going for a bit. In nice original condition it would've been a fairly high dollar piece, but it was "professionally restored". Whoever did it knew what they were doing- it was very nice. But, in the end it was a re-finish job. I was attracted to it as a shooter and even though I thought maybe $700 would've been a good price, I disobeyed my instincts and bid it up to $800 at which point I reigned myself in. Another bidder took my place and ran it up to $950 where it sold. The Model 70 .22 Hornet that was yet to come tempered my "auction fever" on some of the stuff that came early (but when it finally got to the block I couldn't swing hard enough to get that one either -$4000 )

There was a fair amount of Savage ammo, in nice boxes, from every era of Savage ammo making. It all struck me as over-bid, but I know little about the stuff. Everything was over $100, and an early red two piece box of .22HP's brought $150. I saw one box of Savage Hornets fetch $80 which caught my eye as that is exactly what I paid for the same thing last summer at the fest. Some small bits of ephemera- a perfect 1931 catalog with price list brought $95. A naked pair of Savage paper shotshells (salmon colored, 12 gauge) went for $60. The only ammo I bought was a pristine late-30's box of Winchester SuperSpeed .22HP, and had to fork over $60 for it.

They did their usual trick of auctioning a big pile of lesser grade guns (a lot of junk) simultaneous to the main auction, so I had to jump back and forth a bit as there were a couple 29-B's that caught my eye. I bid one to $300 before I had to leave to return to the main auction. It may well have been worth more but I didn't want it that badly. There was a Tenite-stocked M242[?] that I wish now I would've stayed over there for, but I need a .410 O/U hammer gun like I need an extra nose.

Pugs snagged a new-in-box Ruger #1A 6.5x55 while I was in the can, for a very fair price. We had a laugh that I would've wanted to flip a coin for who got to snag it!

All in all it was a very crowded auction, even for them. Absolutely packed, and the crowd was in a feeding frenzy.

Well if I wanted to bid on something, then no I would not come here and tell everyone, however if there were a nice 99 up for auction locally that I could not afford or did not want, sure, I would come here and tell you guys about it.

Oh, yeah. There was a nasty condition Lyman 29 1/2 that I figured I could re-hab. The thing brought $195, nearly what a nice one would on fleabay. Too much for my skinflint self- there wasn't enough meat left on the bone to justify 4 or 5 hours of work and then re-sell it. I would've done 125 (it really was kind of nasty) but the bidding skated right past that number.

Gary:

Sounds like great fun. Wish I would have went now...

I'm pretty sure the guy from Shuman's gun shop was there...he buys ALOT of pre-64 Winchesters. It wouldn't surprise me if he was the one that got the Hornet. I saw him drop $20k on a 220 swift that was in the box and supposedly unfired after it left the factory. I've been in his shop a couple times and he has some incredible stuff.
Anyway, thanks for the report...I need to get back into the auction thing, haven't been to near as many as I used to attend.

I don't get it either. Those last 2 1899 B's that I passed on last May were handled by many at one of the last Savage Fests. Not a single bite. They went through 2 or 3 gunshows and STILL no takers. I've been told there are a bunch of "cheap bastards" here. Everyone wants a bargain. It doesn't work that way normally. If you REALLY want something money should not stand in the way. The forum itself has been accused of trying to drive the prices down. It just doesn't work that way. Unless you are an actual firearm's appraiser (as is at "least one among us" is) then you're just guessing. Money is useless and worthless unless you spend it.

I don't think the prices were out of line. Helmet on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Read down to my last sentence in that paragraph, LBK. "All the prices struck me as being eminently fair, mostly."

Bearsclayer- it wasn't Shuman who got the Hornet. It was a very pleasant gentleman from Frederick whom I talked to after the auction. I didn't see Shuman in the audience.

In the end, whatever a gun sells for, no matter the venue, it's what it is worth to the buyer. "Everyone wants a bargain." Of course we do. Who doesn't??? If a gun isn't a bargain and one wants it anyway- all well and good, if one has the money with which to fuel his lust. Not everyone has that kind of money.

If everyone had a "damn the torpedos" attitude toward throwing money at guns regardless of their worth, prices would climb inexorably across the board. Pretty soon even the Scrooge McDucks would be crying the blues.

Did I have a bit of remorse at the end of the day for not buying a couple things yesterday? Yes. But guess what, I woke up this morning feeling good that I didn't in the end. There's always another gun (or woman) right around the corner that'll be just as sexy.

U don't make money on stock when U sell it. It is mostly made when U buy it! (Or perhaps steal it.) My wife feels money is only valuable when it is saved. LBK I find your exuberance in collecting quite refreshing, but Alas I live in fear, if I displayed your exuberant behavior publically there would be an auction, right after my funeral!

Gary,
Know it's only conjecture, but how do you feel the hammer prices at this auction would compare to prices of comparable guns at one of the well known national auction houses?

My guess would be they were comparable. Key word: guess. I've attended more than a few auctions at this venue over the years, and as with any auction, prices vary- sometimes wildly. It depends on who is in the room (or on the phone), how much money they have to spend, and how badly they want what's on the block- be it a local auction or an RIA auction. I was there when 99's went for peanuts, and I've seen average .300 EG's fetch $1000. "You pays your money and you takes your chances."

How's that beagle doing?

A decent cased set for $1700'ish and a 99G in 250 for $675, sounds like there were a couple that went for good prices - depending on condition.

Glad you got to go, always fun to sit and watch if nothing else.

If the chairs were more comfortable sure. It's kind of fun. Nice crowd and I'll go again at some point.