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Posted By: 260Remguy Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/24/10
I was rewatching Truth 17 and caught something that I hadn't noticed before. In a hunt where Brad Ferris' daughter, Morgan, was the shooter, it appears that she never opened the rear Butler Creek lens cap on her scope. The front lens cap is open, but the rear lens cap was closed before and after the shot. Am I seeing this correctly?

Jeff
Posted By: RugerM77270 Re: Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/24/10
Reenactment. They do it all the time when they only have one cameraman.
Posted By: Dawn2Dusk Re: Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/24/10
In most, if not all, posed shots errors happen.

I love it when guys are sneaking up on a hill top to get a shot on some weary game and the camera man is already up there filming their ascent to the top. Makes you think, "Well, why are y'all sneaking if your camera guy is set up with a tripod already up there...???" LOL...

There are a lot more shots after the kill than before the kill in making a hunting video.
Posted By: SKane Re: Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/24/10
Jeff-

I think it was here that I read someone pointing out the same thing about an episode with Jim Shockey. grin

I get a kick out of the shots where someone is getting ready to pull the trigger and they cut to the camera IN FRONT of the shooter. Nice pans of the weapon, the person's face etc.
I dont doubt it a bit... Ol Buck Mcnealy always "cycles" his bolt after the shot but there is no handle in his hand and no brass ejects!! Is so embarassing watching the show!! I watch 5 min, cuss, turn the channel, turn back, just to see what else the fuggin idiot does or says that just idiotic..
Posted By: 260Remguy Re: Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/24/10
Buck McStupid is so bad that you wonder if he is actually sponsered by PETA. Did he ever get convicted for shooting a caribou illegally in AK about 5 years ago?

Jeff
Posted By: Willto Re: Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/25/10
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I love it when guys are sneaking up on a hill top to get a shot on some weary game and the camera man is already up there filming their ascent to the top. Makes you think, "Well, why are y'all sneaking if your camera guy is set up with a tripod already up there...???" LOL...


The worst of course is the reinacted blood trailing where the camera man is set up beside the dead deer filming the hunters as they walk the blood trail looking for sign. Sign that of course leads them eventually to where the camera man is already standing over the deer. LOL! Gosh, you would think he would have yelled out to them, "hey, you can stop looking for blood over there I've been standing over the deer for 5 minutes here." LOL! I don't know why they feel compelled to reinact stuff like that when it's so obviously fake.
Posted By: Brett_Mc Re: Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/25/10
Or how about when they get up to the deer and there isn't any blood around the mouth and it's tongue isn't hanging out?lol. They must only shoot deer with good manners for TV.....

Brett (Mac)
best of the west is good for the shooter getting all set for the shot and working the bolt and no shell pops up and chambers. then the shot is taken ...... ??

i hate the reenacting crap.
Posted By: Reloder28 Re: Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/25/10
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
I was rewatching Truth 17 and caught something that I hadn't noticed before. In a hunt where Brad Ferris' daughter, Morgan, was the shooter, it appears that she never opened the rear Butler Creek lens cap on her scope. The front lens cap is open, but the rear lens cap was closed before and after the shot. Am I seeing this correctly?

Jeff


I remember thinking the same thing when I saw that episode. I also recall a re-enactment with Waddell. He had his gun out the window, not shouldered and fired it into the air at an angle clearly not focused on a downrange target. He was even looking at the camera before he triggered the gun.

On the other hand, I saw an episode where Larry Weishun missed an admirable So. Tex Monarch 5-7 times in the course of about 20 minutes with his Encore handgun as the buck would leave and then return. At camp he discovered his rear scope base screws were loose.
Posted By: Willto Re: Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/25/10
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Or how about when they get up to the deer and there isn't any blood around the mouth and it's tongue isn't hanging out?lol. They must only shoot deer with good manners for TV.....


Well, it's just common courtesy to die cleanly when you're being filmed. Sheesh, even the deer know that. LOL!
Posted By: cole_k Re: Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/25/10
You guys are watching way to much TV.
its bad when you notice this stuff, i never even got around to noticing it as i couldnt stand them going to commercial right before the shot...
Posted By: pondjumpr Re: Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/28/10
This was several years ago but I was watching a show, Realtree outdoors, I think, where Chipper Jones of the Atlanta Braves was on a white-tail hunt. They were showing the behind the scenes stuff and doing the shot re-enactment. The first shot, the scope hit his hat and it flew off. The second shot, something else goofy happened. Since he had actually shot the deer with the first shot and had a couple, re-enacted shots, they told him to do it again..... he was out of ammo.

Tha's what the Redhead outdoor show tries to keep from happening. Two cameras, no re-enactments, "real Hunting." It's not the best show out there but at least they try to keep it real.
Posted By: tzone Re: Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/28/10
Originally Posted by Reloder28


On the other hand, I saw an episode where Larry Weishun missed an admirable So. Tex Monarch 5-7 times in the course of about 20 minutes with his Encore handgun as the buck would leave and then return. At camp he discovered his rear scope base screws were loose.


I can't stand that frickin guy.
Posted By: tzone Re: Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/28/10
Originally Posted by pondjumpr


Tha's what the Redhead outdoor show tries to keep from happening. Two cameras, no re-enactments, "real Hunting." It's not the best show out there but at least they try to keep it real.


I like the Drury videos. They at least seem real. When they blood trail, the camera man is BEHIND the hunter. I could deal without all the fist pumping and jumping around in the stand though. A fist pump is alright I guess, if I shot a 160, I'd probably do something. I don't know but I hope to find out.
Posted By: RugerM77270 Re: Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/28/10
Originally Posted by Reloder28

On the other hand, I saw an episode where Larry Weishun missed an admirable So. Tex Monarch 5-7 times in the course of about 20 minutes with his Encore handgun as the buck would leave and then return. At camp he discovered his rear scope base screws were loose.


I like Larry but he needs to put the pistol up. I has missed to many deer with it over the past couple years. Last week on Versus he skimmed one on the belly at 75 yards with it.
Posted By: Curole Re: Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/28/10
Imagine how many Weishun misses that aren't caught on film.
Posted By: Bulletbutt Re: Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/28/10
Originally Posted by tzone


... I could deal without all the fist pumping and jumping around in the stand though. A fist pump is alright I guess, if I shot a 160, I'd probably do something. I don't know but I hope to find out.


Me too, on hoping to find out. I'd probably pee my pants and scurry out of the blind. No one wants to fistbump with someone who's just peed his pants in excitement. whistle
Posted By: stumpy Re: Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/28/10
OP, perhaps it was a see thru cover? Doubt it.

I have met Larry and he seems like a great guy. But I cringe when he pulls that pistol out.
I decided long ago the challenge of the hunt should not be determined by the difficulty of the shot, and should be the difficulty of the opportunity to get a sure shot. Once my decision to kill is made, I don't expect any other result.

stumpy
Posted By: tzone Re: Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/28/10
Originally Posted by stumpy
. Once my decision to kill is made, I don't expect any other result.

stumpy


I like that.
Posted By: Big C Re: Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/29/10
On the episode of Bucks of Tecomate with Navy Seal Marcus Lutrell as the guest, he clearly shoots his deer with a model 700 with turrets on the scope, but when they show him with the kill, he's holding a Sako, no turrets. Sako sponsors the show of course.
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
I was rewatching Truth 17 and caught something that I hadn't noticed before. In a hunt where Brad Ferris' daughter, Morgan, was the shooter, it appears that she never opened the rear Butler Creek lens cap on her scope. The front lens cap is open, but the rear lens cap was closed before and after the shot. Am I seeing this correctly?

Jeff
It could be either or, either she was doing a reenactment shot or she had a Butler Creek blizzard cap on the eyepiece which has a yellow plastic lens in it.Or she could have done a reenactment shot with that Butler Creek blizzard cap as well.
Posted By: Reloder28 Re: Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/30/10
Originally Posted by tzone
Originally Posted by Reloder28


On the other hand, I saw an episode where Larry Weishun missed an admirable So. Tex Monarch 5-7 times in the course of about 20 minutes with his Encore handgun as the buck would leave and then return. At camp he discovered his rear scope base screws were loose.


I can't stand that frickin guy.



I hunted two seasons with Larry's brother. He shared your same sentiment.
Posted By: Reloder28 Re: Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/30/10
Originally Posted by Big C
On the episode of Bucks of Tecomate with Navy Seal Marcus Lutrell as the guest, he clearly shoots his deer with a model 700 with turrets on the scope, but when they show him with the kill, he's holding a Sako, no turrets. Sako sponsors the show of course.


Now that's one guy I can't stomach !!
Posted By: fyshbum Re: Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/30/10
Originally Posted by tzone
Originally Posted by pondjumpr


Tha's what the Redhead outdoor show tries to keep from happening. Two cameras, no re-enactments, "real Hunting." It's not the best show out there but at least they try to keep it real.


I like the Drury videos. They at least seem real. When they blood trail, the camera man is BEHIND the hunter. I could deal without all the fist pumping and jumping around in the stand though. A fist pump is alright I guess, if I shot a 160, I'd probably do something. I don't know but I hope to find out.


+1 on the Drury's. the first five years or so on The Truth series were pretty good as well. Too much emphasis on the camera angle etc. and not enough of "the way it was". See previous "Pet Peeves" from about a couple weeks ago here on the fire for more of this.
Posted By: tzone Re: Primos Truth 17 error? - 09/30/10
I agree. Some of the new Drury stuff is about the TV show more than hunting now. I got Madness 13 but haven't opened yet come to think of it... I'll have to do that this week.
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