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Bought a new Winchester Model 70 in 22-250 about a year ago to hunt these little blacktail out west in my area. I think the average weight is about a 125 lb's. Anyway I'm running out of time to come up with a reload, so I have been looking to see whats available in factory ammo for a 1/14 twist barrel. I bought a couple box's of Winchester 55 gr. Pointed soft Point and they shoot well under a inch at 100 yards in my rifle. Anybody use this bullet in a .223 / .22-.250 to take a deer? did it work well? thank you
Friend of mine whacked a tremendous mule deer buck while we were hunting on the Kaibab (GMU 12AW) with his .22-250. If I recall, I believe he was using 80 grain bullets. Was a couple/few decades ago. But of course, He was using factory loads. Helluva buck - 230+ net non-typical and about 215 lbs (field-dressed).
I doubt that there is an 80-grain bullet that will stabilize in a 1-14 twist. Was it a round-nose? The heaviest bullet that will stabilize in mine is a 60-grain Partition, not a particularly long bullet for its weight. Nosler does list some loads for longer bullets in a 1-8 twist barrel.
I have the same question on what to use for deer, I have a Tikka 22-250 on the way and hope to use it in Texas this December.
I'd have bought a 22/250 years ago if they ever got their heads out of their asses concerning twist. I swear Don (Savage99) is the CEO of all the companies.
Posted By: Kaleb Re: Factory ammo 22-250 for deer - 07/18/12
Lol..!
Posted By: Kaleb Re: Factory ammo 22-250 for deer - 07/18/12
I love my 22-250 after swappin the barrel stock and trigger.....laffin.
I wish you were here a few weeks ago when it was 104 during the day, my AC was down hard for 10 days. Good times!
Oh, I saw one Sunday evening in velvet that would have gone at least 140. He was about a mile from the house so I likely won't see him, but you never know.
Posted By: ingwe Re: Factory ammo 22-250 for deer - 07/18/12
Originally Posted by Maverick940
.22-250. If I recall, I believe he was using 80 grain bullets. Was a couple/few decades ago. But of course, He was using factory loads. Helluva buck - 230+ net non-typical and about 215 lbs (field-dressed).


80 grain factory loads for a .22-250 a couple decades ago...

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Originally Posted by mudhen
I doubt that there is an 80-grain bullet that will stabilize in a 1-14 twist. Was it a round-nose? The heaviest bullet that will stabilize in mine is a 60-grain Partition, not a particularly long bullet for its weight. Nosler does list some loads for longer bullets in a 1-8 twist barrel.


I do recall that he had the standard "green and yellow" box with him on that trip, but I wouldn't be certain whether it was 80 grainers or 60 grainers. If memory serves me correctly, I'm pretty sure they were 80 grain bullets. Personally, I'm not a favorite of the .22-250 on extremely large Rocky Mountain mule deer. I think the reason he brought the gun was because it was all he had and he figured he could kill a deer with it. Kill he did - a monster. That was a pretty good hunt. Back then the plateau was overrun with mulies. Of course, most of Arizona at that time was going through a high-moisture trend.
Originally Posted by Maverick940
Originally Posted by mudhen
I doubt that there is an 80-grain bullet that will stabilize in a 1-14 twist. Was it a round-nose? The heaviest bullet that will stabilize in mine is a 60-grain Partition, not a particularly long bullet for its weight. Nosler does list some loads for longer bullets in a 1-8 twist barrel.


I do recall that he had the standard "green and yellow" box with him on that trip, but I wouldn't be certain whether it was 80 grainers or 60 grainers. If memory serves me correctly, I'm pretty sure they were 80 grain bullets. Personally, I'm not a favorite of the .22-250 on extremely large Rocky Mountain mule deer. I think the reason he brought the gun was because it was all he had and he figured he could kill a deer with it. Kill he did - a monster. That was a pretty good hunt. Back then the plateau was overrun with mulies. Of course, most of Arizona at that time was going through a high-moisture trend.
Now that right there is [bleep]' phunny ! Ain't never been no 80 grain .22-250 factory load in no green and yeller box there mr. eggspurt. The 55 gr Win. sp load the op asked about will kill the schitt outta whitetail deer though and I know that from first hand experience.
Posted By: Kaleb Re: Factory ammo 22-250 for deer - 07/18/12
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I wish you were here a few weeks ago when it was 104 during the day, my AC was down hard for 10 days. Good times!


Good gosh.... What a time for the ac to lay down!!! I wasn't very productive during that time. I found many many reasons to "work on stuff in the gun room"...lol
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Maverick940
Originally Posted by mudhen
I doubt that there is an 80-grain bullet that will stabilize in a 1-14 twist. Was it a round-nose? The heaviest bullet that will stabilize in mine is a 60-grain Partition, not a particularly long bullet for its weight. Nosler does list some loads for longer bullets in a 1-8 twist barrel.


I do recall that he had the standard "green and yellow" box with him on that trip, but I wouldn't be certain whether it was 80 grainers or 60 grainers. If memory serves me correctly, I'm pretty sure they were 80 grain bullets. Personally, I'm not a favorite of the .22-250 on extremely large Rocky Mountain mule deer. I think the reason he brought the gun was because it was all he had and he figured he could kill a deer with it. Kill he did - a monster. That was a pretty good hunt. Back then the plateau was overrun with mulies. Of course, most of Arizona at that time was going through a high-moisture trend.
Now that right there is [bleep]' phunny ! Ain't never been no 80 grain .22-250 factory load in no green and yeller box there mr. eggspurt.


Well, like I said, wasn't my gun. But, it was factory loads, no doubt. He didn't handload in those days.
Posted By: Kaleb Re: Factory ammo 22-250 for deer - 07/18/12
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Oh, I saw one Sunday evening in velvet that would have gone at least 140. He was about a mile from the house so I likely won't see him, but you never know.


That's a dang goodin! I know several guys here that have shot some toads over in wayne co. My neighbor is in a lease over there(tryin to get me to get in) and has some very nice deer on camera...not that big though. Hope you see that dude again come November.

Have y'all been gettin this rain lately? Wife had the day off from Walmart and is collinwood fillin in. She says it's been pourin over there this afternoon.
Originally Posted by Kaleb
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Oh, I saw one Sunday evening in velvet that would have gone at least 140. He was about a mile from the house so I likely won't see him, but you never know.


That's a dang goodin! I know several guys here that have shot some toads over in wayne co. My neighbor is in a lease over there(tryin to get me to get in) and has some very nice deer on camera...not that big though. Hope you see that dude again come November.

Have y'all been gettin this rain lately? Wife had the day off from Walmart and is collinwood fillin in. She says it's been pourin over there this afternoon.


My brother just sent a text and said it's pouring just east of Indianapolis.
I finally found time to duck into the gun room and check my copy of Forker's Ammo and Ballistics II. The heaviest factory load shown is Remington ammo with a 60-grain Partition. If that load will shoot in your rifle, it might work. However, Midway doesn't show that load in their catalog this year, so it may be discontinued. You might be able to find a box or two if you look around.

Midway does show the 60-grain Partition being offered in Federal's Vita-Shok line, so that's another possibility. Lastly, Double Tap loads a 55-grain TTSX that would probably work just as well as the Partition. They are listed in the Midway catalog, as well,

I would try a box of each and see what shoot best in your rifle.
In book gun digest 1985 Savage 22 hi power list a bullet of 71 gr by Norma. Ken Waters 22-250 were loaded with 70 gr smiispitzer from speer
I'm ready to build an ark. It is CRAZY outside. Finally got to mow the lawn the other day and I need to do it again.

Saw him again this evening with another smaller buck and a big gobbler not 50 yards from him. My entire place is surrounded by corn, they planted late so right now it's a little past my knee.
Was thinking of a lease but I'll see what pans out this year and look next. Across the street is a lease, I might check that out, at least I can walk there....
Patrick that bullet will do you just fine. I can't tell you how many ark fulls of deer/lopes are filled every year in Montana via plain jane factory ammo with either soft points.

R-P 55 sp's
Federal Classic 55 sp's
Win-55 sp's
Win's 64 Power Pt is another good one.

Many good choices, point them in the proper manner and it's be 4 hooves up quickly.

Dober
Thank you Mark. I have some 55 gr Nosler bonded bullets coming but I'm running out of time.
Can you find the 64 Win PP's in your area? If so, buy them and go forth and get after it.

Dober
Posted By: Kaleb Re: Factory ammo 22-250 for deer - 07/19/12
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I'm ready to build an ark. It is CRAZY outside. Finally got to mow the lawn the other day and I need to do it again.

Saw him again this evening with another smaller buck and a big gobbler not 50 yards from him. My entire place is surrounded by corn, they planted late so right now it's a little past my knee.


Good to hear..! Maybe just maybe hell stick around a lil while longer. Do you still have some big Alaska guns? That's a big buck and I'd hate to see you lose him....laffin.

That's prolly good that it was planted late I guess?.....idk if our corn will make or not? It was growing real good and makin ears when we hit that bad dry spell.

A lease u can walk to wouldn't suck....grin.
Posted By: keith Re: Factory ammo 22-250 for deer - 07/19/12
Originally Posted by mudhen
I finally found time to duck into the gun room and check my copy of Forker's Ammo and Ballistics II. The heaviest factory load shown is Remington ammo with a 60-grain Partition. If that load will shoot in your rifle, it might work. However, Midway doesn't show that load in their catalog this year, so it may be discontinued. You might be able to find a box or two if you look around.

Midway does show the 60-grain Partition being offered in Federal's Vita-Shok line, so that's another possibility. Lastly, Double Tap loads a 55-grain TTSX that would probably work just as well as the Partition. They are listed in the Midway catalog, as well,

I would try a box of each and see what shoot best in your rifle.


There's some good information, get a box of each brand's partitions. Forget the 55g TTSX, they won't stabalize in a 14 twist. 64g Win will stabalize in a 14 twist, Win should load them, they are a very tough bulllet.
First choice: My own load with 60gr Partitions and 38grs of IMR 4350. (It has actually killed whitetails in the hands of a du-mass like me).

Second choice: Someone's factory load, same bullet.

Third Choice: WW 64gr Power Points. Know some that've been dumping deer with that'un for many years.
I've had good luck with Winchester 55gr. Ballistic Silver Tips.
Originally Posted by Mark R Dobrenski
Can you find the 64 Win PP's in your area? If so, buy them and go forth and get after it.

Dober


+1
Win has the 64 pp in factory loads. Very tough little slug.
I use Federal Premium 55 Grain BTHP. They are sierra bullets. I have had great luck with them. I have shot several whitetails with them and they have all droped in thier tracks.
Here is what i shoot in my 1-14" remington 788. 64gr WW power points, I buy from Midway in #500 lots, WW or remington brass, CCI LR magnum primers, 38gr H414/W760, 3364fps average out of my 24".
I shoot the exact same powder charge but use either the 60 gr. Soft point or hollow point from Hornady. I generally use the 22-250 after I fill my buck tag when we need to reduce the doe herd. I like my 22-250 better for this than my 6MM Remington.
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