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Posted By: GuyM Heck of a mulie - 06/24/13
This rascal, the Oregon state record buck, came through my burg at an outdoorsmans's show earlier this year.

Enough to make sure I'm interested in hunting mulies this year!

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Kind of a wild looking rack. That's cool. I like those big mulies, typical or non-typical.

Guy
Posted By: Shag Re: Heck of a mulie - 06/24/13
OMFG! smile
Posted By: smokepolepaul Re: Heck of a mulie - 06/25/13
What a deer! Not many of those running around. Impressive.

Paul
Posted By: BrentD Re: Heck of a mulie - 06/25/13
He ain't pretty, but he is big!
Posted By: LeroyJenkins Re: Heck of a mulie - 06/25/13
Goodness, quite a specimen.
Posted By: huntsonora Re: Heck of a mulie - 06/25/13
stud
Posted By: davidlea Re: Heck of a mulie - 06/26/13
The nightmare buck!! Nothing better than mule deer.
Posted By: DakotaDeer Re: Heck of a mulie - 06/26/13
Weird looking.
Posted By: Dagger Re: Heck of a mulie - 06/26/13
geez!
Posted By: DEER_ASSASSIN Re: Heck of a mulie - 06/26/13
wild
Posted By: northcountry Re: Heck of a mulie - 06/26/13
Just looking at that rack it looks like it might belong to a hybrid whitetail-muly cross just saying. Cheers NC
Posted By: Rackmastr Re: Heck of a mulie - 06/26/13
Wow....that thing is ridiculous!!
Posted By: JGRaider Re: Heck of a mulie - 06/26/13
Originally Posted by northcountry
Just looking at that rack it looks like it might belong to a hybrid whitetail-muly cross just saying. Cheers NC


Uhhhhh......are you serious?
Posted By: mmgravy Re: Heck of a mulie - 06/30/13
Sure looks pure mule deer to me, and an awesome one at that!!
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Heck of a mulie - 06/30/13
Originally Posted by northcountry
Just looking at that rack it looks like it might belong to a hybrid whitetail-muly cross just saying. Cheers NC
Its impossible to tell from this mount, but here's a quote from an article on hybrids:

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The best feature to determine if a deer is a hybrid is the size of the metatarsal gland, which is located on the outside of the lower portion of the rear legs. This should not be confused with the tarsal glands on the inside of the legs. The metatarsals on mule deer sit high on the lower leg and are 3 to 6 inches long and surrounded by light brown fur. The whitetail�s metatarsals are at or below the mid-point of the lower leg, usually less than 1 inch, and surrounded by white hairs. A whitetail-mule deer hybrid has metatarsal glands that split the difference, usually measuring between 2-4 inches and encircled with white hair.


It also says that antlers are the least reliable method of identifying hybrids because of the natural variations.
Posted By: privatepilot Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
Wow!
Posted By: rost495 Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
Looks weird enough like the antlers were cut in half, and each one rotated out.

I'm NOT saying thats what it is, just that it is wide enough that it looks that way.

Heck of a deer. As anotehr said, not that pretty but thats all in opinions!
Posted By: Maverick940 Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
If memory serves me correctly, that buck scored 201 and lost a lot of score to spread credit. Did you happen to see the recent video of the 38 incher that's still alive and well, near Madras?
Posted By: Boise Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
Originally Posted by Maverick940
If memory serves me correctly, that buck scored 201 and lost a lot of score to spread credit. Did you happen to see the recent video of the 38 incher that's still alive and well, near Madras?


A 201 score for a state record is too low, I know of several Oregon bucks with higher scores.

I like this Idaho 267 buck better; good friend's brother took this one:

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Posted By: Maverick940 Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
Were talking official Boone and Crockett typical score, Boise.


Your mention is commendable, but not authenticated, nor verifiable.

The state record for non-typical category is a buck killed near Bend in 1940 (circa) and that scored 330 (+/-).

But, thanks for the info and thank you for sharing a photo of a velvet buck that's in the low-to-mid thirties outside spread category.

By chance, the buck was executed in the Maupin Unit? Or perhaps, just over the line, in Owyhee County? It's a very familiar set of antlers. Just wondering?
Posted By: Boise Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
Guilty of report gross instead of net scores, should have read the previous post more carefully.

This buck is from Idaho's unit 44 and has been in at least one magazine and in several shows.
Posted By: Maverick940 Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
It's a helluva buck, that's for sure. I've noticed that in Owyhee County (specifically) the best bucks are more susceptible during summer archery hunts. That is a very nice buck your buddy killed and I would estimate215 net non-typical (without velvet), based on 40 years of hunting trophy-class mule deer. Awesome buck, nonetheless.
Posted By: Boise Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
Buck was killed during the muzzleloader season, all other bucks had already rubbed. This was a cactus buck with one small gonad. The game warden was called before it was moved to avoid all those that would say it had been poached. The velvet was left in tack so no official score was ever recorded.
Posted By: Maverick940 Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
I once killed a buck -- about 30 years ago, or more -- on the Uncompahgre Plateau, that had no testicles. Strangely enough, that buck was hard-horned and a few days prior, I'd picked up his matched sheds from the year before. He was freak, of sorts and the antlers are awesome. That buck has the largest base circumference of any buck I've killed in North America.
Posted By: JGRaider Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
Hey Mav, since you've been after it for 40 years lets see some pics of your success. We love big muleys.
Posted By: tex_n_cal Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
hunting the Inyos of Eastern California 15 years ago, I stopped to talk to one hunter, and he pulled out a shed he'd found. Only about 6 inches of the base was there, the rest probably gnawed away by rodents. But what was left was about the same diameter as my wrist. The elusive bastard that left them must have been a whopper, and is why I'm going to chase them again.
Posted By: Maverick940 Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
No kidding!!!! Gosh, I'd love to seen that shed and the buck that left it. That's helluva Inyo mule deer. The biggest buck from that country (Sierras) scores about 370 (+/-) net non-typical. Killed in the late 70's. there are some really big, ones in the Sierras, that's for sure. California is actually a trophy mule deer state, although most people don't even recognize it as such.
Posted By: huntsonora Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
Originally Posted by Maverick940
No kidding!!!! Gosh, I'd love to seen that shed and the buck that left it. That's helluva Inyo mule deer. The biggest buck from that country (Sierras) scores about 370 (+/-) net non-typical. Killed in the late 70's. there are some really big, ones in the Sierras, that's for sure. California is actually a trophy mule deer state, although most people don't even recognize it as such.


Impressive but 370"? The world record is 355 2/8" killed by Ed Broder in Alberta in 1926 and the best CA buck I know of was killed by a guy with the last name of Laird and it was killed in the early 70's and was just shy of 320" if I remember correctly. The Laird buck used to be in the top 10 and I'd be stunned if it dropped out of the top 10
Posted By: Maverick940 Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
If memory serves me correctly, the state record mule deer is from the county just north and slightly east of Bakersfield, when it was killed and then submitted, we were stunned, actually. to date and in terms of aesthetic appeal, it supersedes the Broderick non-typical buck from the Panther River. For that matter and in terms of sheer mass, the Arizona state record exceeds the Broderick buck and especially in relation to outside spread. If I recall, the Alberta buck is only 38 inches on the outside.
Posted By: Maverick940 Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
However, the Umatilla buck is quite astonishing, though killed quite some time ago. It's a relatively recent entry and it is VWRY impressive. It's much wider than it appears to be and the height is phenomenal. Very much like a world-class buck that was killed along Piceance Creek, back in the 1950'S. As it turned out and I can fully recall from the 1962 magazine article (Outdoor Life, circa 1961/62 the buck was the smallest of five that the hunter encountered that day. We'll never see those days, gain, that's for sure.
Posted By: JGRaider Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
Show us some pics Romeo......
Posted By: huntsonora Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
Just checked and the Laird buck is still #8 in the world and #1 in California. The Artie Mcgram buck is #16 in the world and #2 in CA and netted over 305" and was killed in 1987.

If you find a picture of that "370 inch NET" buck let me know, I'd love to see it grin

Laird Buck
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McGram buck
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Posted By: JGRaider Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
I'm sure he's got a picture of it Drum, probably right beside his copy of Rosetta Stone's "Learn Russian" CD. Romeo is a real treat isn't he?
Posted By: Winnie Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
Originally Posted by huntsonora
Just checked and the Laird buck is still #8 in the world and #1 in California. The Artie Mcgram buck is #16 in the world and #2 in CA and netted over 305" and was killed in 1987.

If you find a picture of that "370 inch NET" buck let me know, I'd love to see it grin

Laird Buck
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McGram buck
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I passed up a buck like that last year.. horns wouldn't have fit in my Jeep...



whistle grin

X zone bucks I bet.
Posted By: ingwe Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
Originally Posted by JGRaider
I'm sure he's got a picture of it Drum, probably right beside his copy of Rosetta Stone's "Learn Russian" CD. Romeo is a real treat isn't he?


I think his response to your asking him to post a pic is the internet version of 'pregnant silence'....
Posted By: Maverick940 Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
Hi, Druard.

Before I say "thank you" for you (yourself) wasting your own wife's time, I'll acknowledge the internet research you performed. You are a very good student, albeit young.

Anyway, the Liard buck from the west slope of the Sierras, (Mariposa County, if you happen to recall, Drew) is the one. That is the official state non-typical record and, the official state non-typical record that is recognized n=by B&C.

Possibly you recall seeing Foster's giant heads from California that are recognized and unrecognized, or perhaps, your minute 30+ years of age doesn't recall that type of history? Anyway, maybe your wife knows, since she's the one who actually gave you your start.

But, to go back to the Mariposa buck and the Shasta buck:

The Shasta buck was killed in Shasta County in 1985 and has been debated as being a Columbian Blacktail, since migration corridors transect the region. Yet, Boone & Crockett recognizes the buck as being a Pacific Coast Mule Deer, even though it "looks" like a blacktail.

Thank you, Drew, for being so focused that you'd turn your attention away from you wife and supposedly, clients too, to investment everything for proving virtually nothing.

Have a nice night, Druard. I have your telephone number and I'll call you, so we can talk in real-time, on a Federal "dime". You really need to receive a Federal phone call, at this point. and s

Anyway, stay cool in all the heat over there, to the northwest.

Mav
Posted By: huntsonora Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
Originally Posted by Maverick940
Hi, Druard.

Before I say "thank you" for you (yourself) wasting your own wife's time, I'll acknowledge the internet research you performed. You are a very good student, albeit young.

Anyway, the Liard buck from the west slope of the Sierras, (Mariposa County, if you happen to recall, Drew) is the one. That is the official state non-typical record and, the official state non-typical record that is recognized n=by B&C.

Possibly you recall seeing Foster's giant heads from California that are recognized and unrecognized, or perhaps, your minute 30+ years of age doesn't recall that type of history? Anyway, maybe your wife knows, since she's the one who actually gave you your start.

But, to go back to the Mariposa buck and the Shasta buck:

The Shasta buck was killed in Shasta County in 1985 and has been debated as being a Columbian Blacktail, since migration corridors transect the region. Yet, Boone & Crockett recognizes the buck as being a Pacific Coast Mule Deer, even though it "looks" like a blacktail.

Thank you, Drew, for being so focused that you'd turn your attention away from you wife and supposedly, clients too, to investment everything for proving virtually nothing.

Have a nice night, Druard. I have your telephone number and I'll call you, so we can talk in real-time, on a Federal "dime". You really need to receive a Federal phone call, at this point. and s

Anyway, stay cool in all the heat over there, to the northwest.

Mav


Is there anybody here that can decipher this?
Posted By: ingwe Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
I think its called living vicariously....
Posted By: huntsonora Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
Who is Drew?

Who is Druard?

Who has a wife that gave them their start?

Is Mav drunk?

*Edit to add that whoever Druard is needs to let us know about that "federal" phone call grin
Posted By: Oregonmuley Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/03/13
Originally Posted by GuyM
This rascal, the Oregon state record buck, came through my burg at an outdoorsmans's show earlier this year.

Enough to make sure I'm interested in hunting mulies this year!

[Linked Image]

Kind of a wild looking rack. That's cool. I like those big mulies, typical or non-typical.

Guy

I've seen this buck at our local Sportsman Show several times and the rack actually looks pretty good - the picture is a little deceiving. A heck of a buck though for sure - its from Grant County which is where I chase muleys when I can. That county has the genetics to produce huge deer, just needs some better management but there are still some bruisers out there. I usually am only lucky to see them when I get a late elk tag in the area during the beginning of the deer rut. Makes for a fun hunt even when the elk aren't around:)
Posted By: huntsonora Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/05/13
Mav, where you at big guy?
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/05/13
This one is Idaho's #1 archery buck. He got a less than perfect hit and it took him several days to find it. He lost the meat but got a fantastic head.

36" wide, 13x15 points, 261 7/8 net P&Y

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Posted By: Ackleyfan Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/09/13
Awesome buck.......!
Posted By: huntsonora Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/11/13
Has Druard been contacted by the feds yet? grin
Posted By: deerstalker Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/12/13
hey jgraider, sorry but all of mav's pictures are in his head. except ofr the ones laying on the ground in a bull pen
Posted By: Ravenr2 Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/15/13
Mav
Just a hint, buddy
You are out of your league.
Trying to "mind mess" with Drum
If you can't come up with a pic of a Non-typ 370
at least post a pic of your Russian skank
Posted By: huntsonora Re: Heck of a mulie - 07/17/13
Originally Posted by Ravenr2
Mav
Just a hint, buddy
You are out of your league.
Trying to "mind mess" with Drum
If you can't come up with a pic of a Non-typ 370
at least post a pic of your Russian skank


LMAO

That clown was calling the "Broder buck" the "Broderick buck".
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