How many of you have these? The ones that always worry about how other people hunt, how many everyone kills (does and bucks), and whether everyone is doing right or wrong. In the meanwhile not doing right themselves. How do you handle these people?
"The pimp hand" has been a very useful tool for me over the years.
Depends how good the hunting is and if he owns the land.
Only hunted with an idiot one time. Deer season's too short to put up with dyckheads.
Depends how good the hunting is and if he owns the land.
Valid point, and I'll add one more. It depends on how good of a camp cook he is.
How many of you have these? The ones that always worry about how other people hunt, how many everyone kills (does and bucks), and whether everyone is doing right or wrong. In the meanwhile not doing right themselves. How do you handle these people?
They are called 'former brothers-in-laws'
We have one of those, we always have to tell him where we hunt and what we see, we usually lie.
How do you handle these people?
Post a thread about them on the internet.
Depends how good the hunting is and if he owns the land.
Valid point, and I'll add one more. It depends on how good of a camp cook he is.
True. True.
If I am in their camp, I keep my mouth shut.
If they are in my camp...STFU
Only one guy comes to mind for me. He's an old guy too, like a great grandpa now. But he's always been a [bleep] IMO.
Hypocrite, preaches one thing, practices another.
This A-hole has ALWAYS been famous for shooting everything and anything that crosses his path, fawns, does, spikes, what ever. And then he'll have someone else drag it back to camp for him and it will hang on the pole with no tag until he can sweet talk someone into hanging their tag on it so he can keep hunting. It's usually a kid that he talks into tagging his does, fawns and spikes. His own damn grandkids! Can you believe that? He should be taking them out hunting and if anything he should be tagging deer for them so he can take them out again.
I can't stand that guy. I heard from his camp that one night he had an accidental discharge while trying to unload his rifle out on the porch after dark.
I guess that little incident kept his tail down and kept his freaking hateful yap shut for a few days.
Depends how good the hunting is and if he owns the land.
Valid point, and I'll add one more. It depends on how good of a camp cook he is.
i should be safe then
Post a thread about them on the internet. [/quote]
This was funny.
It just gets aggravating at times. I've been in several clubs and it never fails that there's one or two in every one.
As long they arent an annoying drunk I ignore them.
A couple of the Older Generation I grew up hunting with were like this. Those years game was scarce and no one really had much so it took a lot just to get to camp and petty jealousies abound. I loved them all, but they are gone now. It made pulling in new blood, even tho it was all family, very difficult.
These days I am the last of my generation and I am blessed with 7 younger cousins to share camp with. All good people...thoughtful towards others..fun loving...and they even look after the old guy. I didn't know growing up it could be this good....wish I had more time to enjoy it!
Depends how good the hunting is and if he owns the land.
Valid point, and I'll add one more. It depends on how good of a camp cook he is.
i should be safe then
As good as you cook, you could be Joe Biden's twin brother, and you'd still be welcome in camp.
Only one guy comes to mind for me. He's an old guy too, like a great grandpa now. But he's always been a [bleep] IMO.
Is that why you haven't asked me back?
How many of you have these? The ones that always worry about how other people hunt, how many everyone kills (does and bucks), and whether everyone is doing right or wrong. In the meanwhile not doing right themselves. How do you handle these people?
They leave or I leave. Mostly they leave.
Only one guy comes to mind for me. He's an old guy too, like a great grandpa now. But he's always been a [bleep] IMO.
Is that why you haven't asked me back?
You have great grandchildren?
Have to agree with you SKane!!
The guy I talked about was not involved with my camp at all. It was a camp I used to visit now and then, enough to kind of see what was going on, which was not real cool. Especially for the kids.
As short as deer season is why waste time stressing out over these kind of jerks, ignore the dikheads and concentrate on deer hunting. You're never going to change them it's wasted effort to even try.
my club has a few of these guys. they never kill anything but worry about what everyone else kills.i don't tell them anything.some guys will never tell another member what they have killed .if you're not there when it dies you'll never no.
I can't stand the guys that suggest we hang curtains, or bitch that the silverware doesn't match, and show up with smelly candles. No manginas at camp.
Never ran into any obnoxious people on a deer hunt except some Gator fans one time. Elk hunts on the other hand
and 90% came from one state which I will not name.
Just take your iPad to camp and introduce him to the 24 hr campfire. He will retire to a corner and should wear himself out in no time.
Knew a guy who would bring extra friends to camp without asking, that is never good.
Knew a guy who would bring extra friends to camp without asking, that is never good.
And the friends kill the first thing they see
I got out of camp about 5 years ago due to a few doing the work while
the rest bitched about what got done or didn't get done.
You know the kind, too busy to bushhog and plant. But by George they were there first thing opening day.
The only place where a group is there together the full time they are hunting, everyone picks their spot and hunts their hunt.
Works out great!
I had a fellow like that ruin the best club I belonged to. Every couple years we renewed the lease with the land owner using the club's name. The member in charge of the signing manages one year to have his name inserted instead of the club's. The first year he kicks out 3 people and everyone is walking on eggshells. The second year he kicks me and another 4 guys out, admittedly I told him to go F himself right after deer season closed. I miss the club but it wasn't worth trying to dance around his ego. I am long out of touch with him but I hope he died an early and painful death- I had a lot of good times in that lease.
I had a guy like this in a spring bear camp in BC once. Guy was from Jersey and talked this great game and was full of all kinds of advice. He was the only hunter in camp that didn't fill a bear tag and there were black bear all over the place. My father and I saw more than 50 and we took 2 that squared right at 7 ft each. This "expert" never saw a bear in range of his rifle and he was shooting a 340 WBY!
We have two odd hunters on our Missouri lease
Both are Northeast fellas from New Jersey
Is New Jersey a foreign country?
They sure do act/talk/hunt strange to us here in the middle of the USA
All it takes is one screwball to ruin a hunting camp/lease. Bringing uninvited guests has been reason to lose hunting privlidges anywhere I've hunted.
Depends how good the hunting is and if he owns the land.
What Scott said.
I hunt two places, one with extended family (which can be worse) and the other a paid lease. In both places original tension has sort of eroded as people figures sh*t out over time and realize God keeps making more deer every year. I make an effort to be as helpful as possible to others and don't expect the same level of effort in return - although I get plenty help when needed. As long as I can keep the focus on enjoying even the work I put in to it then I find myself and others having a better time over all. I am at a point where I feel appreciated to some degree so all is well with me. Doesn't mean we don't have a crotchety folk or two- just means we know how to all get past it better.
Only one guy comes to mind for me. He's an old guy too, like a great grandpa now. But he's always been a [bleep] IMO.
Is that why you haven't asked me back?
You have great grandchildren?
Aw come on Dave-Tom's not that bad, but he is that OLD!
Buy your own land and start your own club. Then you can decide how the camp dynamic goes.
Otherwise learn how to be tolerant and pick your battles. The people and issues soon work themselves out.
We've had similar issues in our deer shack and seen the behavior and groups turn over a few times in my Hunting career.
Of course it helps to be the land owner and deer shack owner too. ;-)
Not sure why you would ever be in a club with jerks? No choice on who joined?
It's not like you know they're jerks when they get in. Sometimes it takes a while for that to come out.
Solo is the best way to fly.....
I figure I'm the biggest jerk [bleep] that hunts with me either on my leash or my land and as I'm sitting here with a broken leg they are all getting even with me by filling my wood stove or bothering me by stopping by and visiting some bring whiskey some just drink it ,but I'm grateful they stop by. I hope I can get even
Helps to hunt with others of like mind...
Makes these above issues non issues.
Tough to find enough folks to do a large parcel, that think the same though.
We have 8 hunters currently. About 1600 acres. 2 of those shoot anything... but have actually rarely hurt the herd dynamics. There are 3 more that pretty much fly right side up.
The rest of us are like some mentioned... we rarely shoot a good buck. By choice. The buck I shot this year would have won a big buck contest, though I despise record books and contests and never enter after one record entry left me with a bitter taste...
Point is, hunt with like minded folks, and you'll do much better.
Life is to short generally speaking.
Depends how good the hunting is and if he owns the land.
Scott,
Shouldn't your first picture in your signature line be captioned: Binocular in the singular?
We have 8 hunters currently. About 1600 acres. 2 of those shoot anything... but have actually rarely hurt the herd dynamics. There are 3 more that pretty much fly right side up.
Why cant people shoot what they want? is this deer farming?
every deer is a trophy and you take what you want.
Its grocery shopping for me, and I've never asked for seconds for anything cooked by someone else.
Everyone has his reason to hunt.....
We have 8 hunters currently. About 1600 acres. 2 of those shoot anything... but have actually rarely hurt the herd dynamics. There are 3 more that pretty much fly right side up.
Why cant people shoot what they want? is this deer farming?
every deer is a trophy and you take what you want.
We have different goals. I would not hunt with you evidently.
The problem is, we raise cattle and with that, NO one, inlcuding the couple we have that hunt, would keep defective cattle/cows/bulls/runts etc...
That just how we do the deer too.... there is NO question of you shooting 4 deer a year here. I can shoot my 4 deer within 1 hour or less of opening morning usually if I just wanted to shoot.
But we try to get the inferior bucks out, manage numbers of does and let the non inferior bucks, age, spread genes and get larger...
On the farm we never butchered the young promising bulls after they were proven and were a cuople of years old either....
So the couple on the lease that we have a bit of an issue with, could shoot a couple of does like we do, and a couple of cull bucks or even a cull and an old GOOD buck, and play the game.
Nope they shoot, for whatever reason, the bucks that have great potential, but should breed a few more years and get larger....
I've no issues with those that shoot whatever they want as they see it typically... I just don't want to hunt with a brown down group.
I may have to at home eventually, land is selling around us and could ruin a management program I"ve had in effect since the 80s.... and if so it will mean going from seeing 130-140 inch bucks almost every day of a 3.5 month long season, to having to shoot a legal buck again when you see them if you want any meat. Which in reality means I won't shoot a thing if neighbors come ruin it and run it back to what it used to be, I'll just take what I can smartly take off the lease property.
Yes every deer is a trophy in some form or fashion. I have a doe shoulder mount due to how hard that one particular one was to target and kill....
My deer farming comment is aimed at big differences in Texas and Minnesota hunting.
We had a beef farm (we now rent it) and we managed our herd genetics, but deer were not a cash crop.
There is lots of public land in MN and people can hunt it or get permission on private property. Leasing isn't common here.
Its fine to practice QDM, but the state owns the deer in MN, there are no high fences, no deer baiting, we don't charge my guests to hunt other than asking for help with property maintenance one afternoon a year. They can harvest whatever they want in legal fair chase hunt. It is really luck of the draw hunting to see what comes out to you on the two weekend of the year for the one tag you get. Lord knows the timber wolves and snow are factors to contend with so we dont see herds of deer coming out to spots.
The rub I have with Texas hunting, is it seems like you have to pay high lease rates and people impose lots of restrictions on harvest. If you pay $2000 for a deer hunt, I would expect big antlers too. The view from a Texas outsider is Texas deer hunting is becoming the sport of kings.
There are a lot of new & young hunter that we need to recruit to keep our sport alive and most can't afford the lease price tag. Thats why I let guys with young kids hunt my place with a sweat equity price tag so they know the value & burden of property ownership and I let them take what they want.