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Posted By: LFD Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 02/13/17
Which is a all around accurate 270 factory bullit for White tail deer
Any 130 gr load is very likely to perform on a whitetail. My 270's are not finicky.
Accurate depends on what your rifle likes. Since I usually shoot stuff at fairly short range, I worry more about getting two holes for a good blood trail, if needed. Partitions excel at that, as would mono-metal bullets. With any high-speed round, keep your shots out of the meat you want to eat, unless you like it pre-ground, jellied, and filled with bits of lead.
Posted By: Mgw619 Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 02/14/17
130 gr core-lokt. Turns deer into venison.
Posted By: LFD Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 02/14/17
anybody trust the Federal 130gr Fusion
yes
finally ran out of old Winchester 130 gr silvertips. Wish they still made them.
Posted By: LFD Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 02/15/17
sometimes I feel like I am wastin time and energy and money when simply the old cup and core ammo , Federal, Winchester and Remington are the foundation of ammo that has stood for many years for 270. they still work today
Lots of accurate bullets out there and judging from the thousands of deer killed each year with the 270 most work well. While I have mostly been a c&c bullet user I am thinking of going to a premium bullet in my 270. In my area I am very likely to get shot At a deer well under 100 yds where the impact velocity of a 130 gr could crowd 3000 fps. That's pretty high for a c&c bullet. The partition would be a bit of additional ins in either 130 gr or the 150gr. So I'm thinking of going there.
95 ttsx has worked well out of a friends gun....

I just refuse to use the 270....
The Federal .270 150 gr round nose ( blue box) factory load @ 2,700 fPS is a great compromise at woods ranges.

Doc
Posted By: 1Nut Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 02/15/17
130 NBT and 130 Hornady Intlk have literally put a truckload of whitetails into the freezer for me.
Posted By: hanco Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 02/16/17
140 accubonds
Originally Posted by NEBHUNTER
finally ran out of old Winchester 130 gr silvertips. Wish they still made them.


Same here. 1/2" out of my Sako AV Hunter. Got a few factory loads left and a couple hundred component bullets. Gonna try to dupicate that load when the factory loads are all gone. It also shoots 150g Win. Power Points into about 3/4" about an inch directly below the 130g Silvertips.
Originally Posted by rost495
I just refuse to use the 270....


Why?
Originally Posted by d500lnn
Originally Posted by rost495
I just refuse to use the 270....


Why?


Shot a friends that kicked like a mule for some reason. Worse than an 06, almost as bad as my 300 wtby.

Shot a few deer with it and it damaged way to much meat for my tastes. The 130 ballistic tips were like hand grenades.

To be fair, loading for a friends father until he passed away, 95 ttsx and I did use that gun last fall in honor of him, to shoot a deer. It didn't do much damage to the edible meat and the deer didn't go very far with a lung shot. The dog was NOT happy it was such a short trailing job.. LOL

A cousin bought one and thought the same, kicks a lot for the round,, more than an 06. And damaged a lot of meat. This with 130 sierras.

Better rounds out there for me. I tend to not monkey in the middle much... either smaller or larger rounds.

Plus Jack O Connor liked it, and I liked Keith. LOL.
Posted By: Mgw619 Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 02/16/17
Almost the same as a 300 wtby? That seems like a stretch. I have experience with 270 and 300 wm both in a 700 sps platform. No comparison between the two. More along the lines of 308 I would say. Especially with 130 gr.
Don't know bout my new Tikka T3-SL .270Win...All my others used this recipe...
Win-case
Fed 210M or 215Pri
A case full of H4831sc.
130gr Hdy Sp. (just stupid accurate)
130gr. Npt.
130gr. Nbt.
10 off the Lands
Don't member what the specs were for the 150NPT.
ScottyO.


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1
nut Knows whatI'm sayin...GRIN...
If I could get the Hornady 150 Interbond to shoot, that would be the only 270 bullet I'd ever need.
Originally Posted by LFD
sometimes I feel like I am wastin time and energy and money when simply the old cup and core ammo , Federal, Winchester and Remington are the foundation of ammo that has stood for many years for 270. they still work today


I guess.....:

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Originally Posted by Mgw619
Almost the same as a 300 wtby? That seems like a stretch. I have experience with 270 and 300 wm both in a 700 sps platform. No comparison between the two. More along the lines of 308 I would say. Especially with 130 gr.
I"m telling you how it felt to me.

But two different rifles.... different stocks, different weights and so on.

I"ve never shot a 308 that thumps like a 270, not even when shooting 185 grain and 208 grain bullets... But like I said I"ve only shot the 270 from 2 folks and only a few times and they thumped.

I had a buddy that had a Rem 78 in 06. It kicked much worse than my braked 300 wtby did... it kicked almost as bad as my non braked 300 wtby..

To ad, my buddies dads 270 was a rem gas gun, and with 95 ttsx it obviously did not recoil much.
130gr corelokt is all that is needed as long as it shoots accurately in your rifle. my 760 has dropped many whitetails. i can only remember one running more than a few yards and that was because of a poor hit.
Posted By: LFD Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 02/18/17
Winchester Power Points out of my 270 Remington 700 SS shoots 11/16 " group
Bullit will pass through accurate for a C and C Bullit

I'm still very curious about Federal Fussion 130 gr Selling point
accuracy and Bonded Bullit Wallmart $25.00
I've killed truck loads of deer with the 270 and 140 gr bullets. I've owned a bunch of different brands in 270 rifles. Savages have the worst recoil,remingtons have been second and tikka's have had the least recoil and weigh less. 140gr hornady interlock have been my favorite bullets for
40 years.
Posted By: hanco Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 02/24/17
A lot of people own 270's. A whole bunch of one gun hunters. I know at least a half dozen.
I have a Tikka T3 Lite Stainless Synthetic. Its crazy accurate with Hornady American Whitetail 130 grain SP Interlocks. Once I replaced the rock hard "recoil pad", it's a downright pleasure to shoot.

There is also a Rem 700 in the safe that shoots the same ammo almost as well, after a couple of hundred dollars worth of gunsmith work.
Posted By: Dre Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 02/25/17
My TC venture isn't picky. I've shot the 130TTSX with great results. But last time I went out I was trying out the CDS and I shot at 460 or 470 yards using the winchester deer xp and shot a group at 4.75" spread. Not bad for cheap ammo.[Linked Image]
LFD: For the last 15 years or so I have foresaken all other bullets in my various 270 Rifles for the wonderful and amazing Nosler 130 grain Ballistic Tips!
It has been easily crafted into VERY accurate handloads and the lethality on Mule Deer, Whitetailed Deer and Antelope is exceptional.
Best of luck to you with whichever you choose.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
130gr Sierras

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Originally Posted by Mgw619
130 gr core-lokt. Turns deer into venison.


My Uncles ran these exclusively and shot more deer than I care to count. Everything from five feet to five hundred yards and probably further.
My .270 likes Federal 130 Fusion and Federal 130 Blue Box.
If you stick with brand name bullets in the 130-150gr. range its hard to go wrong. I happen to prefer Nosler Partitions buts that's me. If I were to to pick just one .270 bullet to be used on everything it would be the 150gr Nosler Partition.
Posted By: RinB Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 02/27/17
I start testing any new 270 with federal blue box 130 grain loads. They always run 3050. I have owned a bunch of very accurate 270s. It is very difficult to find any handload that shoots groups that are more than about 25% smaller than that factory ammo. It's really good stuff.
Posted By: RinB Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 02/27/17
I have also use that load on about 50-60 head of African plains game. It works awfully well.
Originally Posted by super T
If you stick with brand name bullets in the 130-150gr. range its hard to go wrong. I happen to prefer Nosler Partitions buts that's me. If I were to to pick just one .270 bullet to be used on everything it would be the 150gr Nosler Partition.


That's exactly where I'm at with the 270... wink
Originally Posted by RinB
I start testing any new 270 with federal blue box 130 grain loads. They always run 3050. I have owned a bunch of very accurate 270s. It is very difficult to find any handload that shoots groups that are more than about 25% smaller than that factory ammo. It's really good stuff.


Agreed, I've also found it very accurate. I've killed several deer with it with great results.
Posted By: badger Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 03/01/17
Barnes 130 TSX out of my Tikka.

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Posted By: 16bore Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 03/01/17
I honestly don't know why I've ever bothered with anything other than this old dog. '69 PF M70 in Tupperware, DD's, '89 VX-2 3x9.


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Originally Posted by LFD
Which is a all around accurate 270 factory bullit for White tail deer


150 gr Nosler Partition.
This was the last time I shot the 270 MT at a target.


2 different groups, bipod/dirt.


2x fired brass and 140 Accubonds/H4831sc(3030fps).


The center group was at 400 yards, left one was 469 yards?


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Kentucky windage.

Ive killed a lot of deer with a 270. Hornady interlocks. One jumped and run, hit in butt, bullet under skin at base of neck. One was coming dead towards me, hit in chest, bullet was a lump under the skin on the butt.

I needed real long range and got a 270 wby. Bro got the schnable post 64 fwt which didnt kick much. Killed 4-5 bull elk with it.

His 5 girls all used it killing wtails, hogs and fall turkeys growing up. There aint a big fat gal in the bunch.
Posted By: 16bore Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 03/02/17
This is one of those threads where I miss BobInNH being around.

RIP....
Originally Posted by StrayDog
My .270 likes Federal 130 Fusion and Federal 130 Blue Box.

A fresh update, I tried some factory loaded ballistic tips at 100 yards last Friday.
140 BT loaded by Nosler 3 shots for 1/2"
130 BT loaded by Federal Premium 3 shots for 1/2"

I'll have to experiment with these at different ranges, if one can beat my Federal blue box at 400 yards on the same day, I'll have a new favorite deer load.
Posted By: 16bore Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 03/05/17
I wish that 110 TTSX Federal load was still around.
Originally Posted by SamOlson
This was the last time I shot the 270 MT at a target.


2 different groups, bipod/dirt.


2x fired brass and 140 Accubonds/H4831sc(3030fps).


The center group was at 400 yards, left one was 469 yards?


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Kentucky windage.



Thats some unreal shooting, Sam. Dayom. SOB. I wish i could do that.
It must have been a lucky day!
Originally Posted by fishdog52
Any 130 gr load is very likely to perform on a whitetail. My 270's are not finicky.


Whitie ain't too finicky either.
Posted By: LFD Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 03/13/17
Can anyone with experience coment on the $25.00 box of Federal 130gr Fusion
Posted By: kenjs1 Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 03/13/17
and for me 140 Sierras
Originally Posted by 16bore
I honestly don't know why I've ever bothered with anything other than this old dog. '69 PF M70 in Tupperware, DD's, '89 VX-2 3x9.


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I don't either... I love DD's;)
Posted By: LFD Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 03/22/17
The hardest part of finding the right 270 bullit is reading all the information on the internet. Which one is the best is for all of us to chime in and tell us what is best for our rifles. Some are better than others but the cup and core are here to stay
Posted By: LFD Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 03/24/17
Why spend a lot of money because someone says a premium bullit is better than the cup and core for White Tail Deer
Originally Posted by LFD
Why spend a lot of money because someone says a premium bullit is better than the cup and core for White Tail Deer


I load 150 partitions in my 270's, one, they're very accurate, and two, still hunting the sides of hills and thick creek bottoms I most always fire at fleeting, or at the very least alert deer on a hard angle.

I may have to go into the guts tight against a ham to get up and into the vitals, but agree, a deer out browsing broadsided, a 130 factory loaded core-lokt will kill another 10 million. smile
Originally Posted by LFD
Why spend a lot of money because someone says a premium bullit is better than the cup and core for White Tail Deer


A cup and core 270 will work 100% of the time on broadside chest shots. It will work on 99% of all shots. It's the 1% where you need a bonded,partition, or mono Barnes type bullet.
Correct, and being a pea brained half percenter, I can't let that 1% go. smile
Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Originally Posted by LFD
Why spend a lot of money because someone says a premium bullit is better than the cup and core for White Tail Deer


A cup and core 270 will work 100% of the time on broadside chest shots. It will work on 99% of all shots. It's the 1% where you need a bonded,partition, or mono Barnes type bullet.


RH makes a good point. However the way I see it is, you can find Nosler partitions at SPS all the time for cheap. Why buy anywhere or anything else????? The last 200gr. 30 cal partitions I bought from them were $13.45/50 and I took both my buck and bull last year with those bullets. I can't remember off the top of my head what I paid for the 500 150gr. partitions, but it was well worth the money. You can do a lot of practicing with your hunting bullets and loads this way.

As a matter of fact, here you (not you RH, but those that don't buy there bullets here) go:

$17.20/bag 150gr. nosler partitions

I like keeping chit simple and use only this bullet in my 270. Works for anything (even elk and moose) at any sane shooting distance too...
Posted By: 16bore Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 03/26/17
Good grief that's stupid cheap. Good thing they aren't cool anymore.
laugh
Back in the 1970's/early '80's a Savage 110 .270 was my only rifle for about 10 yrs. 150 gr. Noslers did the trick on about a half dozen moose, 1 elk and 1 black bear. 130 Hornadys collected a pile of white tail & mule deer - not to mention a truck load of 'yotes.

Probably could have stuck with that rifle for my entire hunting life but other, more exotic offerings lured me away........
Originally Posted by gunner500
Correct, and being a pea brained half percenter, I can't let that 1% go. smile


Me too,cause I don't know of any case where that bonded,partition,or mono won't work.I'll always pick the bullet that will work always in all situations over the one that will work most of the time in most situations.
Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Originally Posted by LFD
Why spend a lot of money because someone says a premium bullit is better than the cup and core for White Tail Deer


A cup and core 270 will work 100% of the time on broadside chest shots. It will work on 99% of all shots. It's the 1% where you need a bonded,partition, or mono Barnes type bullet.


I grew up on the .270 and have learned and adjusted over the years.....Sure on a perfect broadside, unalert, standing still deer, 1/3 of the way up behind the shoulder deer you will have a dead deer within 100 yards everytime...But how often does that happen?..Deer moves last minute, rushed shot, wind switches or gusts, catch a twig, a million things can go wrong and thats when you will want a better bullet! In my younger years I thought it was cool to shoot the bright colored tipped BT's. It was also cool to blow a 4 inch hole in the front chest of a 6pt at 30yards..But.. It wasnt cool when I caught a shoulder and wounded an animal....Also use to shoot el cheapo cup and core (Win blue box, remington Coreloc, Win silvertip, Federal) and have seen my fair share of failures and less than desirable performance from them as well as BT's, SST, hotcore)...practice with them, sight in with them, shoot coyotes with them....But when season rolls around spend the extra $5-10 a box and buy some decent bullets (minimum hornady Interloc, Fusions, Accubond,ELDX, Sirrocos, partitions)
Posted By: 16bore Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 03/28/17
So with better bullets, deer don't move at the last minute, they miss twigs, make the wind blow in one direction, and you won't rush your shot.

Amazing.

A phuqq up is a phuqq up, I don't give a schit what bullet is coming outta the tube. Put it where it needs to go and schit dies.

End of story.
For years I hunted in places where the chance of seeing something really nice was pretty slim. Now I've got the opportunity to hunt where the good ones roam. I don't want to have to pass up a shot because the angle is marginal, or lose that nice one because I don't get a good blood trail. Good bullets narrow the odds, especially when shooting something a bit on the light side like a .243.

Those SPS bargain NPs are just the thing. I especially like finding the overruns because they come in a box instead of a bag. Just picked up some more 100gr .243s and 160gr .277s.

In my .308 I've been using 165gr BTs. For some reason, neither deer I shot fell until after a run of 80-100 yards, even with excellent shot placement, massive destruction in the chest, and big exit holes. Just one of those things, I suppose.
Originally Posted by 16bore
So with better bullets, deer don't move at the last minute, they miss twigs, make the wind blow in one direction, and you won't rush your shot.

Amazing.

A phuqq up is a phuqq up, I don't give a schit what bullet is coming outta the tube. Put it where it needs to go and schit dies.

End of story.


no, errors still occur... But with a better constructed bullet, especially at .270 velocities, there will be better penetration allowing you to go through a shoulder, or giving you two holes for blood, guts and bodily tissues to fall from, making the tracking of your wounded animal a little easier.
Posted By: dh84 Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 03/28/17
I like the Hornady 150 non-boattail.
Originally Posted by magnum44270
Originally Posted by 16bore
So with better bullets, deer don't move at the last minute, they miss twigs, make the wind blow in one direction, and you won't rush your shot.

Amazing.

A phuqq up is a phuqq up, I don't give a schit what bullet is coming outta the tube. Put it where it needs to go and schit dies.

End of story.


no, errors still occur... But with a better constructed bullet, especially at .270 velocities, there will be better penetration allowing you to go through a shoulder, or giving you two holes for blood, guts and bodily tissues to fall from, making the tracking of your wounded animal a little easier.


Yep,I had one move a little on a front facing shot. It caused me to shoot left and I only got the shoulder and a tiny piece of the top of a lung. The bonded bullet however held together and traveled the full length of the deer even breaking a hind leg. I'm convinced that deer would have been hard to recover except for the damage that much penetration provided.

bullet exited lower gut and reentered the hind leg breaking it and lodging there.This is a 150grn 270 Federal Fusion factory load.
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Originally Posted by 16bore
So with better bullets, deer don't move at the last minute, they miss twigs, make the wind blow in one direction, and you won't rush your shot.

Amazing.

A phuqq up is a phuqq up, I don't give a schit what bullet is coming outta the tube. Put it where it needs to go and schit dies.

End of story.


More pearls of wisdom
Posted By: MarkG Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 03/29/17
Originally Posted by LFD
anybody trust the Federal 130gr Fusion


I have used the Federal Fusion loads in .243 Win (95gr) & 30-06 (150gr). Both were very accurate in my rifles, and preformed reliably. I would think the .270 Win, 130gr load would preform equally well; and it's the next load I am going to try out in my own .270, once I run through the last few 140gr Hornady's I have now.
Originally Posted by LFD
anybody trust the Federal 130gr Fusion
What's not to trust IF your gun likes that load? Every gun I've tried Fusion ammo in has shot good groups consistently. It's still a matter of what your gun likes.

Start with the cheap stuff, like Federal Blue Box, and only go up in search of tighter groups. Federal Blue Box 130 gr. loads are about $17.50 p/bx at Wally World.
I load 130 grain Sierra boat tails. They are accurate and relatively cheap. They kill whitetail dear pretty dead pretty fast.
Now I hear I should be loading 6.5 "Creed" bullets 'cause "the Creed" has 2 inches less wind drift. 2 inches less wind drift than what and under what wind conditions "They" won't say because "They" won't compare apples to apples. That might make their "Creed" look mundane. Oh, it is mundane and a fad like Hipster beards and shag carpet on dashboards.
Why the hate on the 270?
Originally Posted by 16bore
So with better bullets, deer don't move at the last minute, they miss twigs, make the wind blow in one direction, and you won't rush your shot.

Amazing.

A phuqq up is a phuqq up, I don't give a schit what bullet is coming outta the tube. Put it where it needs to go and schit dies.

End of story.


That about sums it up right there. Great post^^^^^^
Posted By: LFD Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 04/01/17
Cup and core ammo doesen't shine like the Premium sparkling ammo. Don't even receive the same attention . But they have been proven for many years.
They will be here for a long time. There still the go to Ammo.
Posted By: CRS Re: Old 270 best of Best Bullit - 04/01/17
It is much harder to find a 270 bullet that will not work for deer, than finding one that will.

Don't over think it.
85gr, 110gr, 130, 140gr T/TSX,X
110 Sierra pro hunter
130,140,150gr Hornady IL, GMX
100,130,150 NAB,BT,Partition

These have all worked on deer for myself and family. Probably forgetting some of the bullets used over the last 30 some odd years and hundreds of deer put into the freezer.
Originally Posted by rost495
Plus Jack O Connor liked it, and I liked Keith. LOL.




So, with that being the case, I suppose you find the 50 caliber Browning machinegun cartridge to be about right for deer. Right?
Shoot! Just about any 270 I can pick up at the Box store will work on deer if I adjust my scope to it.
It's a hobby and that's about pleasing one's self. Within reason, I mean, routinely having lost deer is not cool. Shooter needs to adjust Brain Housing Group not just blame the bullet.
I use a ton of Nosler's cause they are cheap and they work for me. I did score a few 100 of the 130 Tipped Trophy Bonded Bear Claws. I'm pretty sure I'm going to try them out in my 270.

I think a slightly tougher bullet reduces meat loss and kills just as well. I've got some 130 BBCs I'd hunt anything with as well.
Originally Posted by rost495
Originally Posted by d500lnn
Originally Posted by rost495
I just refuse to use the 270....


Why?


Shot a friends that kicked like a mule for some reason. Worse than an 06, almost as bad as my 300 wtby.

Shot a few deer with it and it damaged way to much meat for my tastes. The 130 ballistic tips were like hand grenades.

To be fair, loading for a friends father until he passed away, 95 ttsx and I did use that gun last fall in honor of him, to shoot a deer. It didn't do much damage to the edible meat and the deer didn't go very far with a lung shot. The dog was NOT happy it was such a short trailing job.. LOL

A cousin bought one and thought the same, kicks a lot for the round,, more than an 06. And damaged a lot of meat. This with 130 sierras.

Better rounds out there for me. I tend to not monkey in the middle much... either smaller or larger rounds.

Plus Jack O Connor liked it, and I liked Keith. LOL.


You shot one like my Mark V. I have a Savage .270 that recoils like one would expect. Then I bought this Weatherby six lug. It kicks like a mule so I put a brake on it. Now I love it.
Originally Posted by Ringman
Originally Posted by rost495
Originally Posted by d500lnn
Originally Posted by rost495
I just refuse to use the 270....


Why?


Shot a friends that kicked like a mule for some reason. Worse than an 06, almost as bad as my 300 wtby.

Shot a few deer with it and it damaged way to much meat for my tastes. The 130 ballistic tips were like hand grenades.

To be fair, loading for a friends father until he passed away, 95 ttsx and I did use that gun last fall in honor of him, to shoot a deer. It didn't do much damage to the edible meat and the deer didn't go very far with a lung shot. The dog was NOT happy it was such a short trailing job.. LOL

A cousin bought one and thought the same, kicks a lot for the round,, more than an 06. And damaged a lot of meat. This with 130 sierras.

Better rounds out there for me. I tend to not monkey in the middle much... either smaller or larger rounds.

Plus Jack O Connor liked it, and I liked Keith. LOL.


You shot one like my Mark V. I have a Savage .270 that recoils like one would expect. Then I bought this Weatherby six lug. It kicks like a mule so I put a brake on it. Now I love it.

Physics is physics. Stock fit has a lot more to do with perceived recoil than most people realize. And it's not just LOP.
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