Looking for a heavy duty bullet for my new Browning 71. I have a few of the old Barnes X bullets but I know they are not made any more. I have two questions. 1. Does the 250 Barnes originals stay together pretty well?? 2. WHo makes good a bonded 250 grain bullet for the .348?? Thanks Spence

Barnes originals are still made and very suitable for heavy game.

HAWK has several choices

I shoot cast for practice and Whitetails.

After shooting two average sized deer with the 250 gr.Barnes original I now use these bullets for sighting in. The bullets did not pass through the deer. I didn't find the first bullet but the second I found the separated cup. When I drew an elk tag this last year I used Hawk bullets and had perfect bullet performance on a 900 lb. 5x7 bull.

Hard Cast for targets and game.

Speaks to a project I've been putting off for about 15 years...

I have some of the 250-grain Barnes flat points. Hard to imagine those breaking up on whitetail, but if it happened, it happened. Interesting.

Hornady used to make some 200-grain FPs; I have some, but can't say I have any experience with them.

Good to know Hawk makes something useful.

I've thought for a long time hard cast flat points, probably with gas check, maybe a 250-grain version and a 285-300 (or so) version might be worth some experimentation. Maybe 200-grain for targets or whitetail, etc.

-R44

I got 600 of the hornady 200 gr. fps with my gun, so I will be set for target shooting and deer for a while. I was thinking about a moose load. Spence

Woodleigh makes a 250-grain bonded-core for the .348. If I were hunting something big enough that I abosolutely needed to know the bullet would hold together, that's what I'd use. In fact, I have a box on my shelf right now, waiting for load development.

Thanks boys, I was looking at the Woodleighs, a bit expensive but what the heck. I am going to buy a box. Be safe all. Spence

You might take a look here.

http://www.custombrassandbullets.com/albuwo.html


8mmwapiti

My youngest boy is set to shoot a Buffalo this week with his browning 71. The woodleigh is the bullet I chose for him and I will let you guys know how it performs. I chose H4831 SC as a powder I don't have a chronograph so I'm not sure on the velocity but guessing a shag over 2250 from the load data I have seen.
I to would shy away from the originals working with their 45-70 originals left some questions.

The new Midway catalog lists some Buffalo Bore ammo with 250-grain "JFN Bonded Core"" at nominal 2250 fps. No mention of bullet brand. Maybe Woodleigh?

Would be very interesting to hear results of the Woodleigh on bison.

-R44

R44
The bullet performed extremely well. 180 yards complete penetration with great expansion and it retains 245 grains! Was found on the far side just under the hide. The follow up was a spine shot which was devastating. Overall very happy this load will be the go to for large game.
Thanks Chris

John, would be interested in your results once your done if you don't mine.

Thanks redmtn.

Very nice, and thanks very much for the insight!

-R44

With my prior experience with their 45 caliber bullets woodleigh and the 348 seemed like a winning combo. The performance is there! Another bullet of interest may be the northfork but I have no experience with it.