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Posted By: EZEARL 1996 Blazer?? - 09/28/15
Is there any relationship between the a/c system and the CEL?
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 09/28/15
Nope...Pull the code with a good scan tool and see exactly what it is...
Posted By: EZEARL Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 09/28/15
I didn't think there was but wanted to double check. Must be a coincidence. Getting it scanned Wed.
Posted By: SockPuppet Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 09/28/15
Bought me a cheap Autel (spelling?) off Amazon a couple of years ago so I could pull my own. I think it was around $30 and it's been well worth it. They're probably cheaper now.
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 09/28/15
Mine was $269.00 and it was well worth it. I got tired of going to O'Riley's to borrow theirs.... EZEARL, your '96 should be an OBDII equipped vehicle. '96 was the first year (I believe) chevy started using this, as it was first used with their new Vortec engines. Here's a little more about the OBDII system:

Unlike earlier OBD systems that set a DTC when a sensor circuit shorts, opens or reads out of range, OBD II is primarily emissions-driven and will set codes anytime a vehicle’s emissions exceed the federal limit by 1.5 times. It also will set codes if there is a gross sensor failure, but some types of sensor problems won’t always trigger a code. Consequently, the Check Engine light on an OBD II-equipped vehicle may come on when there is no apparent driveability problem, or it may not come on even though a vehicle is experiencing a noticeable driveability problem.

The determining factor as to whether or not the Check Engine light comes on is usually the problem’s effect on emissions. In many instances, emissions can be held in check, despite a faulty sensor, by adjusting fuel trim. So as long as emissions can be kept below the limit, the OBD II system may have no reason to turn on the light.

CHECK ENGINE LIGHT

The "Malfunction Indicator Lamp" (MIL), which may be labeled "Check Engine" or "Service Engine Soon" or a symbol of an engine with the word "Check" in the middle, is supposed to alert the driver when a problem occurs.

Depending on how the system is configured and the nature of the problem, the lamp may come on and go off, remain on continuously or flash - all of which can be very confusing to the motorist because he has no way of knowing what the light means. Is it a serious problem or not? If the engine seems to be running okay, the motorist may simply ignore the light. With OBD II, the Check Engine light will come on only for emissions-related failures. A separate warning light must be used for other non-emissions problems such as low oil pressure, charging system problems, etc.
Posted By: EZEARL Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 09/29/15
THANKS for the info. I lucked out with my '96 XJ. It's OBD I so I can access it by key. We've been having trouble with a/c compressors staying alive. Everything has been replaced. Yesterday the CEL came on(first time since I replaced all O2 sensors and IAC)and a few hrs later the compressor started squealing then locked up. Got to be contamination from somewhere.
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 09/29/15
You talking about a 96 blazer (as the title says) or Jeep (XJ)???????
Posted By: EZEARL Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 09/30/15
Blazer. A/C system has been completely replaced but it continues to eat compressors within a couple days and sometimes less. This last time the CEL came on a few hours before the compressor went out. Thought there might be a connection.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 09/30/15
How does the compressor go out? Bearings? Leaking? It's an independent system that just bolts to the engine and is run by a belt. It could run without the engine if there was another way to turn the pulley.
Posted By: EZEARL Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 09/30/15
Bearings. Bad one on it now will shut the motor off while idling when engaged.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 09/30/15
The pulleys might not be properly aligned or maybe the belt's too tight. Maybe dirt in the system or just a case of a crappy compressor rebuild.
Posted By: EZEARL Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 09/30/15
We're thinking contamination. Everything else you mention checks out good. We've tried two different brands. It goes back Monday for the 6th compressor. His equipment is good and he's done other a/c work while doing mine with no problems. Even had a priest do an exorcism last time. LOL
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 09/30/15
If the belts & pulleys are good, contamination is about the only thing left to go bad.
Posted By: EZEARL Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 09/30/15
Actually had thought about eliminating the a/c but I've put too much $ in to it and the bypass pulley systems aren't of the best quality.
Posted By: BLG Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 10/01/15
Need to replace the dryer and the orifice tube. It's like a screen filter. If you are not doing this when you are changing the compressor, you are asking for trouble. Also, putting in the wrong oil or not enough oil will kill a compressor.


Clyde
Posted By: EZEARL Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 10/01/15
Not sure if that's being done or not. Problem started with the first replacement compressor. Original just leaked no bearing noise at all. This guy services all the vehicles for the local schools,DNR,and both local and state police. He's stumped. Goes back Monday.

I do APPRECIATE the input.
Posted By: Dillonbuck Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 10/01/15
Are you using a flush to clean the system.
Posted By: EZEARL Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 10/01/15
Should or should not use? Either way I can ask him about it along with the dryer and orfice tube issue. THANKS
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 10/01/15
Originally Posted by EZEARL
We're thinking contamination. Everything else you mention checks out good. We've tried two different brands. It goes back Monday for the 6th compressor. His equipment is good and he's done other a/c work while doing mine with no problems. Even had a priest do an exorcism last time. LOL


Sounds like it's possessed by the devil... I'd find a different priest to do the exorcism right this time.... whistle
Posted By: EZEARL Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 10/02/15
About to give it a proper burial.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 10/02/15
Originally Posted by EZEARL
Actually had thought about eliminating the a/c but I've put too much $ in to it and the bypass pulley systems aren't of the best quality.
I used to have an older full sized Blazer. Running without the a/c in the summer was a hotbox. Only the front windows opened and the ventilation was lousy. I have the same problem now with a Bronco II that I inherited from my brother. The a/c doesn't work. This thing gets REALLY hot, too hot to carry my dog in back on summer days.
Posted By: EZEARL Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 10/02/15
Just kinda frustrated with it. Been a pain since I've had it. Really need the a/c cause it's our primary ride and my 92 yr old mom lives with us. He'll get it figured out.
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 10/02/15
I hope you get it fixed. Good luck with it....I've had my fair share of working on Chevy's......
Posted By: EZEARL Re: 1996 Blazer?? - 10/03/15
Thanks. I can use it.
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