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Posted By: Buddha 160 Grain Accubonds on Elk?? - 12/13/10
I want results anyone has seen or had with the 160 grain Accubonds on elk with 7mm calibers at the high velocities with a 7mm Ultra mag/STW and lower velocities you may have with like a 7mm-08. How did the bullet perform from short range to long range. The reason I ask, Im going elk hunting with my 7MM Ultra Mag in the fall 2011 with this 160 grain bullet loaded at 3320fps and its well under 1/4 inch on accuracy at 100 yards. Im sited in at 1" high at 100, deadon at 200, 4.0" low at 300 and 11.5" low at 400. Would like to hear the results you guys have seen or had. Thanks.
My son took this Bull with his Weatherby Accumark at around 200 yards and it dropped right there and never moved from where it stood. . 7mm STW, Hod 1000, Nosler 140 gr Accubond, Fed 215 primers. Complete penetration with shot right behind shoulder. The Nosler 160 gr should do you right. I always sight in 2.5 inch high for Elk hunting with my rifles.

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Thanks and congrats on the elk.
Originally Posted by Buddha
I want results anyone has seen or had with the 160 grain Accubonds on elk with 7mm calibers at the high velocities with a 7mm Ultra mag/STW and lower velocities you may have with like a 7mm-08. How did the bullet perform from short range to long range. The reason I ask, Im going elk hunting with my 7MM Ultra Mag in the fall 2011 with this 160 grain bullet loaded at 3320fps and its well under 1/4 inch on accuracy at 100 yards. Im sited in at 1" high at 100, deadon at 200, 4.0" low at 300 and 11.5" low at 400. Would like to hear the results you guys have seen or had. Thanks.

Looks to me that you have a fine elk combination there.

I've only killed one elk with the 160 gr Accubond. It was a cow that I shot with my 7mm Rem mag at about 140 yds. I hit her just behind the left shoulder on a broadside shot. Complete penetration, exiting behind her right shoulder. She dropped at the shot and as it was a fairly steep sidehill, she skidded and rolled about 40 yds where she stopped against a tree, dead.
Posted By: rl11 Re: 160 Grain Accubonds on Elk?? - 12/13/10
It's worked for me really well out of my rm. I've killed quite a few deer with it, and loaned it out on a handful of other deer kills.
Pretty limited on elk experience, but it's worked great when I've been lucky enough to try it out.
Son-in-law took a 4 pointer this fall with his 7 mag. 200 yards, quartering away, impact in the rear ribs, found the bullet between the far ribs and the far shoulder. Haven't heard what it weighed. Bull went about 50 yards.
here's a couple of kills with the 160 AB from a rem mag.
here is my sis in law with her first deer
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here is a 7 year old bruin I took at 15'
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here is a cow elk I shot last year dropped in her tracks
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I know a 140 TTSX from my 7 Wby knocked the cow's lights out. It was doing 3400 fps at the muzzle.
160 accubonds work very well from the 7 RUM for elk, on at least two occassions I have witnessed.
I have personally killed four elk with 160 accubonds in my 7mm Rem Mag. Only one stayed in the animal and that was a cow at 200 yards. She was quartering hard to me, and I never did look for the bullet. Caused amazing damage inside that is for sure. She did go 50 yards with no blood in the snow. I thought that that was weird, but she died really fast.

The other three were killed at the following distances:

Cow, 382 yards, complete penetration with two bullets, blowing out the shoulder and exiting with a baseball sized exit. DRT, but head was up and therefore I shot again. Same type of exit wound.

Spike Bull, 433 yards, one shot through the heart. Made it about 15 feet. Complete pass through with silver dollar size exit.

Cow, 567 yards, complete penetration with bullet entry wound about quarter size and exit after going through two ribs and severing both lungs about the size of a golf ball. Down immediately and wedged against a tree.

So far, I am really pleased with the results of these bullets, both terminally and accuracy.

Firehawk
My youngest brother used his 7mm-300 Weatherby and 160gr Accubonds to kill his first bull ever. 250 yard shot and the bull fell right where he was standing and rolled down the hill towards them. Bullet entered about 6" behind left shoulder and you can see the resulting exit hole in the off side. The bullet totally destroyed everything in the chest cavity, ruptured the diaphram and pulled intestines out the hole when it exited.
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I forgot to mention that my buddy used his 7mm Rem Mag with 160 Accubonds to kill a huge 352+ Bull on one of Utah's famous Limited Entry units this past fall at 175 yards.

Like Deer Tracker's bull, his bull fell immediately with one shot. I didn't see his exit wound, but supposedly it was about the size of an orange. He didn't mention "parts" coming out like the one above, but the results were the same-----dead elk.

FH
Great stories. Good info and thanks to everyone for their input. Ive never elk hunted before and just wanted to be sure my combo was adequate. Everyone around here says I got the right gun but my bullet is suspect. I disagree with them on a regular basis. Read an article where a man has taken 11-12 trophy bulls with a 243. I have always believed in extreme accuracy and bullet placement. I shoot alot and I know my weapons and I know what my Ultra is doing at 400 yards. Im not afraid at all to take a 500 yard shot if i have the time to get set-up and deliver the round. Im ready to see hair in the scope. The last trip to Wyoming muledeer hunting ruined me. I had a 350 class bull roll up on me at 40 yards and stand there posing for pictures. Once he winded me, up the hill and thru the aspens he went with his cows. That picture is stuck in my head and I knew I had to come back and hunt these elk in the back country of Wyoming. My dad always said Id give up muledeer hunting if I had a few close encounters with an elk. I think hes right.
Elk hunting is da bomb! grin

I hope this thread has legs. I'll give it the occassional bump. I'm building a 7WSM and it's replacing a proven elk-whacker in my .325WSM so the more 7mm elk success I see here, the better!

I'll likely use the 160-NAB unless it just won't shoot for me. That'd be a surprise but you never know.

I'm of the opinion that a guy has to be careful extrapolating from experiences with one caliber of bullet to another (same bullet I mean), because things like jacket thickness could be different, so don't give this TOO much weight but with that disclaimer in place I've personally seen nothing but goodness from the 8mm 200-gn Accubond and .338 225-gn Accubond on elk. Great penetration, devastating wound channel, super accuracy.
Took this guy with my 7 SAUM last year with a 160AB. Shot was 447 yds and took out both shoulders.

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Posted By: Tonk Re: 160 Grain Accubonds on Elk?? - 12/14/10
Jeff O, I gave my wife my 7mm Rem mag for hunting elk. She was using a .338 Win mag shooting 210 Nosler partitions loaded up lighter for her with a 23 inch barrel.

One day she shot my 7mm mag off the back porch with 140 grn bullets in the magazine. She really liked it a lot, so I let her shoot it that year using 160 grain Nosler Partition bullets, we didn't know much about those Accubonds at that time. They certainly do the job just as well as the partitions did and perhaps a little better.
Sure looks like a lot of elk on here that took the big Dirt Nap after being properly 7 MM'ed.....


This ought to settle the calibe debate


http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/8122723/
Holy crap that's funny! crazy

People have way, WAY too much time on their hands.

But why is the jeff-character arguing against .280? I think .280 is cooler'n chit. It's .270 I don't like... grin...
You aren't under gunned or under powered with the 7mm on Elk, it works if you do your part and the Accubond is one of the best.
I've had horrible results with a 160 grain AB out of a 7mm SAUM.

I've also had perfection with them...

They shoot extremely well, and I am encouraged by the positive reviews. Probably gonna give them another try.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Holy crap that's funny! crazy

People have way, WAY too much time on their hands.

But why is the jeff-character arguing against .280? I think .280 is cooler'n chit. It's .270 I don't like... grin...


17,000 + posts ??? grin
I just bought 400 of the dang things here a while back in hopes they will fly well for me out of my RM. Figuring on running one of them into an elk next fall.
I've never taken an elk with them, but they will be loaded in my 7mm saum for next year.
Muleshoe,

Try some H1000 and you should be in great shape. Have fun!
Not the exact bullet you asked about, but... We shot a large 5x5 this year with a 165 accubond out of a .308 win, load was chronoed @ 2650 and shot was a lasered 175 yards. Shot it a couple times cause he just stood there. One was through n through and one was recovered it showed extreme expansion, weighed something like 135 grains after. Both shots behind the shoulder and caused massive damage. It worked well, but I would be wary of hitting bone at extreme velocity.
Posted By: Tonk Re: 160 Grain Accubonds on Elk?? - 12/20/10
The Accubond bullets that are shot out of my wife's 7mm mag were very accurate. They will indeed travel clean through an elk at 270 yards, with massive damage inside the animal that was shot behind the shoulder, leaving a 1-inch exit hole. We have shot both the 160 and 175 grain Nosler Accubond bullets, 160's group better in the 7mm mag.
Used em with perfect success on 2 elk and 3 bears when i had my my 7mm RUM over R25. Fairly anticlimatic, one shot and nothing went over about 15' before falling over. They shot really well for me as well.
Dropped a cow this year with a .30-06 and a 150g AccuBond. Base of neck, 282 yards, 2991fps at the muzzle.

She was on the ground before I recovered from the recoil.

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I've taken a dozen or so animals with that bullet in both a 280 and 7mag including 5 elk. Ranges from 40yards to 450. I've also taken another dozen or so with other calibers. The Accubonds work very well for me, and shoot tiny little groups.
Posted By: Whip Re: 160 Grain Accubonds on Elk?? - 12/28/10
I've had the same experience with the accubonds for elk, in both .27 and .30 calibers. They've been near and far, all died within 100 yds of being shot, and there wasn't any excessive damage or meat loss. Figure to keep using them for a while.

Anyone use the 160 AB out of a 7-08.??
Originally Posted by Buddha
I have always believed in extreme accuracy and bullet placement. I shoot alot and I know my weapons and I know what my Ultra is doing at 400 yards. Im not afraid at all to take a 500 yard shot if i have the time to get set-up and deliver the round.


That's all well and good, but you should also be ready to get a quick shot off at a basketball size target from a realistic field position at something much closer than 500 yards.

Thats one shot Ive practiced more than my rifle probably needed. I can't tell you how many rounds went down range at water filled plastic bottles from 100 yards out to 200 from all kinds of shooting positions. Haven't shot like that in a while but I feel like shooting at a basketball sized target is like cheating or something. Im not the greatest shot in the world but I do practice and I do practice with practical application. I was just highlighting how confident Iam in my gun and what it will do if I do my part.
Buddha,

To the other side of your question I used 160 Accubonds at about 2750 fps out of my 7-08 a couple of years ago on a combined elk/muley hunt. Unfortunately, no elk but I did get a 2 year old buck at a lasered 200 yds.

Of course, it was much smaller than an elk but it was an extreme rear quartering shot with the bullet entering behind the ribs on the right side and exiting the lower left front shoulder. I didn't find the bullet. The bullet destroyed everything inside and left about a 1/2" exit hole in the shoulder--this after expanding and blowing through everything in between. He dropped in his own shadow.

I don't know your ballistics or what range you might shoot at but my Accubond should have been going right around 2400 fps at impact. While one shot does not a wealth of experience make, I was very impressed with the results. Oh yeah, they are also one of the 2 most accurate bullets out of my Kimber (162 A-Max being the other).
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Reread this whole thread.....noticing a lot of "exits" from the 160 AB.....and a lot of really dead elk as well.
Makes sense to me!
Me, too....if the tips stay on..... frown

Got a pic somewhere back here....it ain't pretty...(sigh)
Yeah, I had that happen with early .33 cal 225's. Disconcerting, and you are correct (IMHO) that a loose tip could gum up the works.

I've run a ton of NAB's since without the dreaded Loose Nipple Syndrome <g>. I suppose a guy could give them nipples a tweak before trusting them in a hunting context. A legit concern but not an unmanageable risk- again IMHO.

Noz did send me a box of the 225's, based on a phone call, which I thought was cool. Wish they'd send me more! grin
Got piles of them,140 and 160....I do shoot them......
Anyone run a 7mm 140 AB through an elk or two? Curious as to how those would perk compared to the 160. Thanks...
Rancho Loco did, 7 SAUM, 500+ yards.
My hunting partner uses 160 AB in 7Rm factory ammo. He has killed 6 elk in 3 years with that rig. They work fine if you get into the boiler room. The cow he shot last year was quartering to us and bullet penetrated front shoulder and exited near the diaphram on the other side and she ran 150ish yards downhill. Zero blood trail, no hair or anything. Found the corpse after a couple hours of looking. Dead as a stone, but no trail.
JJHack, this is your moment! grin
Posted By: Tonk Re: 160 Grain Accubonds on Elk?? - 03/22/11
Worked up a nice load for the 7mm mag of the wifes rifle in 160 grain bullet but we never got to go last season do to my health. It is real accurate down range and I am positive it will indeed sling an Accubond bullet clean through a bull elk's vitals at 400 yards. Remember it does have excellent B.C. for down range flight! I realize that shooting just one elk with a 160 Accubond is no real proof of how they are going to react on an animal but it was a good indication of accuracy and penetration at just under 300 yards.
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