I'm looking for one AR-15-type rifle. Preferrably in 6.8 SPC, but maybe better off with a .223.

Please let me know what you think. Budget should not be a factor.

Thank you and I appreciate your opinions.
Brooks

Oh brother..........RICK!

Can this dirtbag......ASAP!

Oh boy, Tom264, I think you've got a problem...are you the troll?

Original title of your thread!

Re: What weapon if H1N1 mutates and there are hordes of desperate banditos running rampant?

Carry on Moron....everybody can see YOU are the troll.

Changing thread titles and whats in the thread aint gonna work...

Your so dumb!

Did Lee24 change names Who the hell is this moron

Please, please, let me help you...you've committed a grammatical error: It's not,your fault, you may be the one who is a little dumb. It should not be " Your so dumb! ", it should read: "You're so dumb" or "You are so dumb"

Ummmm....Who's the dummy now Tom264?? Let's be at least friendly.

Now, please back to the topic at hand, Stag Arms, other?

Ingwe

Funny, I've been here like 3 yrs and have near 10K posts and I never once have been called a troll.......why do you suppose that is?
You on the other hand have less than 400 and most of that is recent and you have been called a troll multiple times.....why is that?

Does anyone know brooksrange? Where does he live? Has he ever posted a picture of himself or any of the critters he taken? Why are most of his posts calculated to cause controvery or an argument? What's the definition of a troll? I still think it's best to just ignore his posts and not respond. He's so vain he probably thinks this post is about him. CH

I know it's hard for you Tom264 but PLEASE stay on topic.

BTW, congrats on your # of posts!

Chickasaw Hunter,

I do have photos of Brooks posted on the Elk Forum: It's on the thread about using the 6.8 SPC for elk. There are at least 3 photos there.

I don't troll but you do.

Which one is Brooks? Do you refer to yourself in the third person because it's an alias. I went back and looked at that thread on Elk. Are you the one on the right or left of the bag of jerky?

Funny!! Man, you are soo funny

No, actually, if you go further in the thread, you'll find photos with actual kills- mainly archery- Moose, Turkey.

I actually just got into rifle hunting a few years ago myself. Starting to love horseback riding too.

Laffin' what a turd!

I saw the picture of some guy riding a horse, who has a trucking business, and of another guy who did an endorsement for a hunting operation in SD, and of yet another guy who shot a moose. They all had the name of Brooks though. I'll bet if they caught you posting they're pictures and claiming to be them they might skin you with a soup spoon, but that's between you and them.

I read this because I thought it would be interesting.

WRONG !

Stag is not bad rates with S&W,Bushmaster,RRA as one of the not quite mil spec AR's

Go with a

Colt
BCM
LMT
Daniel Defense
Noveske

The major differences with these rifles will be twist rate,better quality barrels and and bolt carrier groups.

Twist rate between the above ones wont' be enough different to matter, if different at all.

Quality of barrels will be a bit better with some, same or worse with others. IE I'd take a Wilson any day over a Colt tube.

The difference between the first and second group can be ultimate reliability, which for me, will be built by a specific smith, and not pay out the nose for anothers "name" to be stamped on there. Much like I do with custom bolt guns. I won't buy a complete one, I"ll have it built.

Sometimes the difference though is time vs money. ANd if you want to spend the jack get after it.

In the real world assuming you don't get a bad part/parts somehwere the Stag will run as well as any of the others. Any of the mentioned ones can have bad parts though, but the lower dollar lines are a bit more likely too.

Stag does not drop to the level of Model one sales stuff though... but I've been shooting a nephews MOS gun for 2 years now and never a hitch and really good accurate gun.

Mil spec guns have 1 in 7 twist barrels which will stabilze any bullet weight in .223 or 5.56.

Mil Spec guns have true 5.56 chambers so they can shoot 5.56 or .223

Mil Spec barrels are made of higher quality steel which have been proof tested and MP inspected for flaws. Many of the AR manufactures run cheaper barrel steel and are not proof tested or MP inspected.

Mil Spec guns have heavier full auto weight bolt carriers(increases dwell time for better extraction reliability and reduces wear) and higher quality MP inspected bolts with high quality shoot peened extractors and better quality extractor springs.

Mil spec guns have proper gas port sizing.

Mil spec guns have true M4 feedramp cuts in the uppers.

The author of the tread was asking about M4 carbine type weapons not a varmint/precision rig.

Now if you are building a bench or varmint gun thats another discussion.

Sorry, my bad, musta missed the post where the OP was specific about what he was after IE milspec M4. I just went back up and it must be deleted I guess.

Other than that, a 7 twist won't stabilize all bullets. A 9 twist thats true, will stabilize everything up to an 80.

I"ve shot a LOT of 5.56 practice stuff in 223 chambers and never had an issue.

Barrel quality I covered.

Carriers are an issue granted, but port size covers that issue, you are adapted to both carrier weight and bullet choice IE weight when you deal with either.

Non M4 don't have M4 cuts.

Yep 2 different things, but then again I"d take any of my match guns as 200% reliable to feed and function till they die any day. At least mine have run around 10K plus rounds give or take each year for many years, and we have 4 guns in the family most years, some years more like 6-8 with other juniors....

Here is an article about a Stag Arms AR-15 but the important part is..............

http://www.gunsandammomag.com/cs/Satellite/IMO_GA/Story_C/Stags+Super+Tackdriver

I'm building a 18" gun on a Stag Lower - this will be a precision build:

Stag Lower & parts (CMT)
VLTOR MUR1a upper
18" Krieger Barrel
YoungNM or JP low mass Bolt Carrier Group
Free Float Tube
Geissele DMR trigger
MAgpul PRS stock
Leupold Mark IV 20x scope + Trijicon RMR on top (red dot cqb scope)
Advanced Armament SPR/M4 Suppressor + QD flash mount

ALL BLACK!

All I have is the lower & parts right now. Geissele and PRS next, then the Krieger and the rest. Should have about $4K in it by the end.

My feelings about what to do are subject to change, but looking to have it complete by next summer.

Try a Seekins lower,they are really nice.Sounds like you are building one hell of a nice rifle,put it on the best platform possible