Thought a few of you AR junkies might want to check this out. Take a 6.5 Creedmoor case, neck it down to 6MM and push 105's at 3000fps+....so far, so good.



8 shots on this plate at 460 meters from prone when it was 10* below zero showed me this rifle will work in the cold. When it gets really cold I'll test it again. FWIW, I used my range card for my 6XC and 105gr scenars at 3050fps. The test loads I shot in this rifle are 105gr Hornady BTHP. Barrel is a 23" Bartlein 5R 1-8". Scope is a S&B 3-12X50 PMII Mil/Mil.

Very nice setup! Whose parts does GAP use?

http://www.gaprecision.net/ga-precision-2011-custom-rifles/ga-precision-g.a.-precision-gap-10-.html

"GAP-10 upper and lower receiver, manufactured for us by POF from 7075 Billet"

Thanks Scott! Laffin! You know more about my rifle than I do.

doubt it.. lol

just knew where to find the answer is all.

that is one Sexy rig ! heck for stout !!

Thanks Sendero. Looking at POF's website, believe it or not, it's actually cheaper to order a rifle from GAP. lol

Pat, you have all the bestest toys

Man that is cool!

Man this also COLD! here, 15-20 deg. F is about as cold as it gets...and as cold as I care for it to be!

clark98... I'd bet the GAP shoots better too ! George and crew build top notch stuff !

Yep, that's kinda what I was thinking. I know if I was going to plunk down the coin on one, I'd be going with GAP.

Slick rig. What does it weigh?

doesn't take a known name to make an AR shoot, thats what I love laughing about.. you don't get any more accuracy out of an expensive wilson vs a WOP gun.

Laugh all you want.....show up here next spring and bring your most accurate AR and we'll see what happens.

You ever have anything positive to say about anything?

Nope, every last post I make is negative.

But then again some confuse facts for negativity.

Bolt guns are another story, ARs not so much.

So, are you coming up for our shoot next spring?

I agree 100% with AR15's. AR10's I don't know, they are a different critter. Zediker has written about how fragile they were in the early days, that is what drove him and others to make the AR15 work for hi-power competition, and it was the civilians that made it happen and handed the AMU thier a$$ for a couple of years until they retooled.

My AR10 experience is limited to a couple of DMPS SASS rifles that belong to a company I've worked for, they have, IIRC, barrels from Montana Barrel. They will shoot, and appear to be reliable. You can read some less than glowing reviews on other DPMS models. Time will tell.

Very nice Pat! Should be Hell on the dogs!

Nope.

kinda figured that would be the answer...

all blow, no show

Damn cool rig scenar!

Shoot in the spring again???

(The little guy in the back is jumping up and down)

Oldslowdog came up from TX, Jeff. You should at least give it some thought.

Scenarshooter with an AR. Actually kinda scary. (if you are momma coyote and you and the whole clan come looking for that hurt rabbit.)

hope you come again John.. was great meeting you and shooting with you.

you are one of the guys that show !

Seems I recall you showing and hitting at 1 mile under some shall we say "challenging" conditions.

If you never push and are afraid to look like a fool then you never learn where the �big boys� are playing.

How about on your turf? I'm up for a road trip. I know of three guys I could pick up in Wyoming on the way.

If I talk negative will you guys come to NM? (grin) Would love to learn to shoot like that.

So, how does this cartridge compare to the XC and the 6x47L? Seems to me, they'd be like triplets.....All depending on whose brass you want to use. Or is there another reason?

Thanks,

Kaiser Norton

Ballistically the three are very much alike. 6.5 CM brass is more readily availible as a lot of comp shooters are using it and shooting the factory offering. I have access to a LOT of brass. I have less heartburn losing Hornady brass than I would Norma(6CX) or Lapua. A lot of my shooting is out in the field and with snow on the ground, so brass recovery is lousy at best. The other issue with the 6X47 Lapua is small rifle primers misfiring in extreme cold temps. Nothing is more aggrivating than hearing "click" instead of "boom", when you have a coyote standing broadside at 200 meters.....been there, done that.

Oh yeah, dats gonna kick some Yote butt! 105 Horn BTHP, haven't tried them yet.

U run them into anything flesh like yet?

Dober

whats the advantage over just a plain ole 243, since you are using the ar 10??

Prone from a bipod. This morning the conditions were near perfect.

This load produces 3050fps.

105gr scenars are next....

Not having to seat long, high BC bullets way down in the powder collum. My COAL on this load is 2.690". The lower end of the bearing surface is still at, or just a smidge above the neck/shoulder junction.

Are you guys gonna publicize the dat/place when you get it worked out?

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...2nd_Annual_Ice_Breaker_Shoot#Post5940639

Here you go....hope to see you there!!

Gracias.

Pat, nice gun.

Should work just fine.