I'm not much of an AR guy. I bought a Colt 6720 for my daughter to hunt with and put a Guissele SSA-E trigger in it because I like good triggers and hated the stock trigger.

What would be a good choice in an extremely accurate upper I could buy? I'm not looking for the most expensive one but not the cheapest either. Just something that offers good value while still being very accurate. I want a flat top with no front sight. I don't care about having rails enough for a bunch of accessories. I will only need a scope and maybe a tripod.

I'm not sure there is a "best", Randy. Lots of times it's the luck of the draw. White Oak Armament is always a good bet, though. So are a lot of other makers, too.

Here's one to consider:

https://www.whiteoakarmament.com/sh...-gas-1-7-alg-handguard-emr-v3-m-lok.html

The upper RickyD suggested would be hard to beat. WOA makes great stuff and that's a very good price for what you get.

I'll again plug a stag 6 upper. Have shot 3 and all live up to their 1/2" guarantee. For $600 it can't be beat..
That WOA upper looks nice and have heard good things. As was said sometimes it's luck of the draw but stag is 3 for 3 on the accuracy bit for me anyway..

Be that as it may, that upper will make a rifle that comes in at 10 pounds, bare, & is more or less a very singular purpose rifle..........if that's what the OP is looking for.

But most "precision" rifles tend to be on the heavy side; just a matter of what level one is looking to go to.

MM

Weight isn't too much of an issue. Mostly looking for something to play around with at longer ranges. I have the stock 6720 upper for light weight applications.

Is the Stag 6 only available in a 24" heavy barrel?

WOA has other configurations available, too, just not presently available.

Rock River Arms has a 25% off retail sale on their complete upper halves. The Coyote rifle upper is Wylde chambered, and should be about $590 on sale, complete with BCG, etc.

They have other uppers that would meet your requirements for no rails, mounts, etc.

Just a thought.

MM,for sure it's not a light setup. A while back I saw stag offering the 6 in a few shorter barrel configurations. Don't think that's the rule tho and may warrant a phone call. In my experience they are very customer friendly..for the record they use ER Shaw barrels in the 6.

I'd suggest having WOA build you one using their SDM barrels. I know you say you don't care about weight, but having had a rock river predator persuit I just didn't care for the way the upper balanced but loved the way it shot. Going with the same contour but fluting it makes for IMHO a perfectly balanced very accurate 20" AR.



Easy enough to screw one together yourself.

Wilson Combat 5.56 barrels are in stock and on sale through today, if you go with the "roll 'ur own" build.

White Oak Armament is a great, no bull schitt shop.
John Holliger keeps Service Rifle and precision competitors supplied with what they need.

And at honest prices....no boutique crap and the prices that go with that.

hands down have what you want built. I trust John to all my stuff at WOA/WOP. Call them and tell them what you are after. That will dictate how and what they tell you to buy or have built...

Evidently Shaw has come a LONG way with their barrels if you have 3 that shoot 1/2 inch groups.

I sometimes had a time finding the right load to shoot .5 moa repeatably with TOP line barrels.

Thats good info to know though, when a cheap barrel will knock out winning groups easily.

I believe Rainier Arms still carries barrels made by Shilen, I have one of their ultra match barrels and have been quite happy with it.

Rost, I own only one, the other two belonging to family. But they have and will knock down 1/2". I however, do not possess the skill to do that each and every time and make no claims otherwise.
I had read Shaw hovered around "above average" myself in regards to their barrels, and had also read they had made great strides in quality. I figured with stags reputation for customer service and their 1/2" guarantee why the heck not? I remain very pleased and It has definetly been one of my better purchases in regards to value/accuracy

I've seen the Stag 6 uppers do nice things. Have also seen a RRA Predator Pursuit perform very well too....and with their 25% off sale, a complete 20" upper is right around $600.

It was not a flame post, I was simply saying if you can get that out of a shaw barrel repeatable .5 moa accuracy for at least say 5 shot groups, thats impressive and good to know. Mule Deer has said Shaw has come a long way in barrels. This seemed to prove it.

But if it won't do it all the time, then its simply one of two things, its not a .5 moa gun, or the shooter is not .5 moa capable.

Regardless if I had a gun that would nto shoot .5 moa consistently if conditions or shot calls didn't mess that up, IE faults not of the gun, then I'd advertise it as best groups around X, worst groups around Y

Rost, not taken that way at all..I'd actually be very curious to see what a 6 upper is consistently capable of in the hands of a shooter such as yourself or some of the others we have here whose skills I'm sure outshine mine.

I don't consider myself to be that good of a shooter, only what I feel everyone should be capable of if they apply themselves and practice a bit.

Especially off a set of bags on a bench to simply test the capability of the gun.

I second the Wilson combat barrel.....I built a precision 18" AR with a Wilson combat stainless barrel!!!! I am more than pleased... Tack driver...10 at a 100 you can cover with a Dime...

You woulda mopped up in the BRChallenge shooting like that

Time to bump the challenge thread again it seems.

LOL Gotta let deer season slip by and then back to that.

I still never shot the other challenge...

This is going to be very, very difficult to beat given your parameters.

I admit I cheated..... I had it locked in a Caldwell lead sled!!!!!!!!

WhiteOak - almost all of their barrels are match grade, and they run !

I have some White Oak Armament,McGowen Precision,Blackhole Weaponry and they are all great barrel's don't think you can go wrong with any of them.

5 White Oak barreled uppers in both .223 & .204. "ALL" SUB 1/2 moa. 1 .223 has shot a 3 shot .088 group with X-terminator powder & a 55 grain Berger. Average in the 3's to 4's. My 24" .204 will shoot 5 shots in the 3's all day.
Jim D

All day you say?

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...s/9834630/24HC_Black_Rifle_Challenge_Thr

you trolling again? LOL

I actually wouldn't doubt the uppers would be capable knowing John and company...

I'm always on the lookout.

Im not saying it isn't possible, just that he could easily take the #1 spot in the challenge with that type of shooting.

If only those were 10 shot groups.....................

MM

Yes. Those darn 10 shot groups tend to have lots of "flyers" dont they?

any high end complete upper at 600.00 will be hard to beat.
barrel 200^
barrel nut 35^
hand guard 150^
receiver 150^
bcg 150^
gas block and tube 60^
charging handle 75^
muzzle brake 60^
time to assemble 1.5 hours
you are already at 850+ just for parts
though the satisfaction of putting one together and shooting 1" or less is priceless.
even a caveman can do it.

What's your choice of a $200 barrel to get to those (10 shot) 1" groups?

MM

It looks like you're planning to pay premium prices for everything except the barrel. A little backwards for a precision upper, don'tcha think?

I agree that $600 for a quality precision upper is a decent price, but put the big $$ into the barrel first. A $400 White Oak barrel on a cheap $50 upper would have a much better chance of shooting well than what you've listed above, especially if assembled by someone who know's what's what.

Where does WOA get their barrels from?

MM

ER Shaw;)

Unless something has changed recently, WOA uses Wilson match grade blanks.

I think most WOA barrels are wilson and a few are pacnor- all match grade

wareagle700, speaking of the 24" WOA .204, yes, if the wind is not a factor & you respect the barrel by cooling between strings, it will do it pretty much all day. I'll give myself some lee way & say a .600 group before deducting the bullet. That's in Texas weather. Don't have any idea what it would do in the cold. And just like everyone else, some days the mechanics & trigger finger are just not there but that's not the guns fault. I've only had one other gun in my life as consistent as this AR and it is a Remington 700 mil-spec .223 in a HS Precision stock with a Jewell trigger.
Jim D