I am wondering if you are able to comment on it.

I just installed one last night. It is as advertised and well worth the $100 I paid for it.

I'll hit the range with it this weekend and let you know definitively. It's a better trigger than the RR two-stage. But that opinion is only going off dry-firing.




Dave

Looking at getting one of these myself, interested in your experience with it

Thanks Dave!

Yes. I paid $109. It is not a Timney or a Gissele but is much better than mil-spec. On a 1-10 scale I'd put it abut 8.5.

I paid about $160 for another AR trigger and it is maybe a tiny tad better. But definitely not $50 worth.

The real test is would I buy another and the answer is 'Yes'.

Where for $109?

It was months ago and I won't have access to my home computer for the next week or so. (Working in The Bahamas is a bitch but someone has to do it. )

Cheaper Than Dirt, I think. $113 there now. $107 at Bud's today.

Differences between them?

RRA can be a bit different and need more tuning in different lowers.

Isn't the Ruger a drop in unit?

Just curious.

Jeff,

I'd say the Ruger is smoother/crisper than the Rock River I have.

Not sure what you mean when you say drop in unit.



Travis

It is not a canister (drop in) trigger.

Can vary from lower to lower just as RR, Geissele and any other non canister trigger.

Gotcha.

I gave that TriggerTech a go in the offhand today and holy balls.... That thing blows the RR and Ruger out of the fugkin' water.



Dave

There is something wrong with your rra. My best trigger is a Geisele high speed match rifle. It's got tuning adjustments to adjust out whatever problem your having. Yes it's better than the rra varmint I have in another gun but to say it blows it away is a joke especially when I paid 62 bucks for it and $270 for the geisele

Cumminmecowboy,

Do you own a TriggerTech?




Dave

Do you?

MM

Which flavor?

MM

hadn't heard of TT, will have to google them..

The problem for me with the trigger tech is I prefer for the first stage to me most of the pull. Ideally 2 pound first stage 1 pound second. That trigger also looks it doesn't have engagement adjustment rather just pull weight

With only 3/4lb on the 1st stage, what's the point of the TriggerTech 2 stage?

I just installed a Geissele HSNM and it's nice, but certainly not light years nicer than my RRs. It's adjustable, it's locktime is faster, but other than that, it's a wash. I like the RR longer 1st stage. Trigger bow placement is irrelevant to me. I like the Geissele's overtravel and 2nd stage adjustment. We'll see how it washes out. But I still maintain that if you can't win the Nationals with a RR, you can't win with any trigger.

I shot a Standing match with the Geissele. Shot a 193 with a 99 in the second string of 10. Same as I do with the RR.

Adaptable.



Travis

Me either.

So far so good.



Travis

Ok.



Travis

They're all new to me (outside) of the RR.

But thus far the Trigger Tech seems more better than the Ruger or RR.

Do most of the shooters winning the Nationals use a Rock River?



Travis

I don't shoot AR's competitively except at various club matches so I don't need a Geiselle NM trigger.

But I do need a clean, consistent trigger that is around 3.5 lb, 2-stage, is 100% reliable & doesn't have to be dicked with every trip to the range.

The Geiselle SSA-E does that very nicely, is good enough off the bench & works well in speed shooting, at least well enough to suit me.

The SSA & the G2S work virtually as well with a lighter trigger spring at a little less money & I can live with them other than for a genuine high precision rifle. (All terms are relative, YMMV).

Buying them when they are on sale is the only reasonable time to buy.........they are a little too proud of them at full price.

MM

Has anyone ever won Nationals with a RR that wasn't tuned?

Doubtful...

No equipment lists in HP. Impossible to say.

Have you?

Well if they're all running RR two-stage triggers I'd be surprised.




Travis

I will go out on a limb. 75% of serious HP shooters either service or match rifle use Geissele triggers. No reason some of the one piece triggers would not work though.

The Milazzo triggers are superb also

RR are decent when tuned...but chances are you will need to keep tuning them.

Lots of good options now compared to 20 years ago

Ruger triggers are great at the $120 or so price point.

Trigger Tech offers a basically single stage trigger. A bit of light take up and then a really nice crisp break. Much like a very well done 1911 trigger.

The Geissele Hi Speed is my favorite trigger for the AR.

Setup for 2 1/2 lbs on the first stage and 1 LBs on the 2nd it is hard to beat.

Add in best in class lock time and things just get better.

Of course the downside to the HI Speed is price.

Anyone done the same with a Geiselle? Doubtful too. LOL.

FWIW all the stuff I"ve won at Perry, was with Milazzo and RRA.

John tuned those RRA years ago. They've never been touched, but then again they probably haven't seen more than a few barrels on any of them.

Ya but Geissele has screws to tune it with, RR not so much. LOL

As I've said, I have one G2S that isn't as good as my others (and the G2S is their entry level trigger) but as I found out, it's my lower, not the trigger. Swapping triggers got me the same result.

that is exactly my thoughts. never tried the trigger tech. but I know I would prefer most of the weight be on the first stage, with just enough on the second to provide a nice wall that is easy to find when I am trying to dump a coyote at 300 yards. 2 and 1 is my preferred ratio on the stages. my RRA varmint I think is about 2 and 2 on the stages. just a tad mushier than the geisele, plenty good for all but the most serious of accuracy applications.

I know this is off topic, question john burns, do you find you shoot an AR 15 better with its vertical grip and 2 stage trigger like we are talking about. vs a traditional stocked hunting rifle with any single stage trigger out there? I am talking in field conditions, like off some shooting sticks, maybe even some off hand shooting.

Picky picky picky.

I actually had to retune my Milazzo a few times, but I've worried about the lower wearing out on 2 of our guns also... LOL

John I am not, but I've shot single and two stage in both ARs and bolt guns, never really mattered accuracy wise that I could tell.

I do prefer the 2 Stage in the field. It's easier for me to control the break.

As a note on the Trigger Tech triggers they make a very good Rem700 trigger. Quite a bit less than a Jewel but more robust under field conditions.

I am going to talk to them about a 2 stage Rem 700 trigger.

JMT Saber for $100 including antirotation pins if single stage works for you.

Thanks for that input!

Jeff

I have shot nothing but RR triggers at the Nationals. One tuned, one untuned. Don't know which is which anymore.
Whatever, they were good enough for leg points and good enough to make P100. If I had enough resources we could talk about 1st places on the national level. I only have enough to win 1sts on the club level. But you can be damn well sure that I'm aware of every detail that's holding me back and I'll tell you it isn't triggers!

My new trigger has been installed in the AR 556 Ruger

This little carbine really likes the 40 grain Hornady VMax.

It should make a good varmint rifle.
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