All:

I bought a new EOTech 512 in 2016. A friend of mine told me that he heard about an issue with them, but I thought that was with those made before 2008.

Is something new out there, from a reputable source?

Thank you

I have two 512s the only problem i'm aware of is some POI change in extreme temperature changes. Mine work fine from 20-90 degrees si I never bothered sending them back.

contact the company, maybe they will still give you your money back. I had one, sold it to a friend he still has it, my only issue is I did not like to have to turn it on before I used it. I bought a cheap $270 SIG Romeo 4 with the same circle dot, had it for a almost a year, changed the battery this January its on a very accurate AR, it holds zero, and the battery lasts for at least 11 months in my experience. I bought the SIG on a whim but have not heard any complaints about them like I have the new Trijicon red dot.

I work with a lot of guys that use EOtechs. They liked them and didn't have any problems with them. I think the "extreme" temp issue would only be an issue with a huge temp swing (ie a HALO jump where it's zero degrees at altitude and 120 degrees at the landing).

I like the fact that they have a switch. Otherwise batteries wouldn't last long in real world operations.

Here's the info from eo-tech.
http://www.eotechinc.com/dear-valued-eotech-customer

as for batteries not lasting, my T2 will last for 5 years when always left on. That said, my last Eo-Tech 512 lasted the spec'd time they stated. (but I forget how long that was, did a test here on the fire a few years ago). Bottom line, battery life is not a problem on newer models.

I bought a new sideways battery model and figured it was about perfect until it started going off when I shot the gun. I sold everything eo-tech and went Aimpoint.

Aimpoint, Trijicon, Leupold, and even Sig/Primary Arms all make red dot optics that keep batteries alive in constant-on for at least a year or more.

Here's the Eotech/Aimpont alternative that I'm using. Israeli military standard, as far as I know.

So far great sight, very sensitive on/off motion sensor, instant on. Red dot is just the right size to suit me.

If you're patient you can find it on sale for just over $300.

MM

Meprolight RDS

Ok, thank you gentlemen.

Mine was made in 2016, so I believe I am good to go.

Glad to read this because I really like the sight for my Stag Arms AR. In the times I have used it, zero has been consistent and solid. That includes both hot and bitter cold environments.

I think your friend was referencing the contract they had with DOD that didn't hold up.

Most people will never have a problem with them.

That being said, if you had EoTech's in a pool of optics used by hundreds of knuckle draggers, I suspect the EoTech would be your number one failure.




Dave

Can we get like a big fugkin' Texas flag over every post made by a Texan?

It'd make things so much easier for members that have legitimate questions.




Dave

What an amaizingly great point! Real World Operations to boot!

I have several eotechs in the past 10-15 years and only had problems with 2. One was an original 511 that kept shutting off, the other an XPS 3/ 3x magnifier combo that had the screen delaminate. Both happened in a span of 60 days right when the DoD crap was happening. When I called rote ha bout them the rep insisted on giving me full msrp in return despite my insistence that I bought both used for significantly less then msrp.

Can't say anything bad about them after how they handled my issues.

All EOTech's- every year, every model have serious issues. As best as I can remember since the mid 2000's I have been issued around two dozen EoTechs. Every single one has had problems. From ridiculously short battery life, to zero shift, battery contact problems, flashing reticles, and ghosting. On top from teammates to students I have seen a couple hundred conservatively. Nothing has made me trust them.

If it's just for a plinker, well rock on. I still wouldn't out of principal, but it doesn't really matter if cans are the target. However, when used in a duty capacity (or home protection) and people say that they haven't had issues in use, I really start to question what they think "use" is. A while back I started working at a place that has a very aggressive training schedule and issued EOTechs. Most thought that they had no issues as other organizations that we work with used and "liked" them. Enter a structured marksmanship program where your ability to hit realistic targets on demand and pure shooting skills are measured and become a part of your continued employment, and you had a bunch of dudes that could shoot anything that they want pulling Aimpoint Comp M2's out of storage. Of course a lot of other previously "good" optics turned out it to be not so good as well....


Just saying that for the price of an EOTech one can get an Aimpoint that will last for years without being turned off, will hold zero as good as iron sights, and who's parent company aren't POS's.

It the crap really hit the fan, I would probably feel most comfortable with iron sights.

I once had to qualify at an Air Force range at Medina in San Antonio. It was either a base or service rule to use one of their weapons overseas. I am being honest about this. 10 time rifle expert is not enough. Anyways, when qualifying, I decided to turn off the optic and use my irons exclusively after doping both. It is a cake walk to shoot high score on that course of fire.

The one thing that the optic does give me is the ability to have better peripheral vision when shooting. But if I am shooting at a target that is farther then my immediate kill space, I prefer the irons. I used them so long, it is natural for me and I can shoot better.

Simply amazing how so many elite troops who could use anything they choose use eotechs. If only they knew..................

Just kinda appears to matter who you happen to ask..............

MM

Please tell us what "elite troops" that could use "anything they choose", choose to use EOTechs? You must have experience?

What is your current recommendation?

Aimpoint Comp M4, Micro T/H2, if on a budget- PRO. Every other red dot has concessions that Aimpoints do not.

There is a heavy shift to LPV's now.

Thank you Form.

I'd love to read this answer myself.



Travis

I got a 552. The other day I was looking through it, while moving my head around and I noticed parralex. I think that is what it is, the dot and circle move around too. Is this common with them? With perfect cheek weld I don't have any problems.

My next toy will be the PRO.

Yes, that's normal.

With any of the quality red dots it matters not where the dot appears within the screen, of the rifle is zeroed properly the bullet will go where the dot is. That's part of the reason why they are so quick in use versus a scope is the ability to have a less then ideal cheek weld when in a hurry and still make the desired hit.

I doubt one will be forthcoming.

On the Navy side DEVGRP/ST-6.

On the Army side Delta/ACE/CAG.

I have trained with Mike Pannone (CSAT), John McPhee (SOB), and Scott Steiret (Northern Red) and all have SMU backgrounds and all prefer the EOTech.



Back in the day the last thing UBL saw was the back side of an EOTech.

1-6 and 1-8 variables are now very common but EOTech has always trumped Aimpoint in the SMUs.

Always.

people who know the chit is going to start can push the button before hand, people who do not know the chit is going to start often don't have Carnac the Magnificent like foresight nor time to push the button. I guess I will never be an operator.

Don't know about other sights, I have 5 or 6 EoTech 556 NV's, the oldest is about five years old, I haven't experienced any trouble with any of them, they're mounted on my farm and house guns, battery life has been fine.

I also like the fact should I or the sight be disabled, the flip up sights can be viewed very plainly through the EoTech.

I discovered my 552 fogged up this last weekend.

I'm presuming on the inside?