I was looking over their website for stocks, the site seems to have been revised since my last visit. I can't find the Ruger #1 offerings. Are they a thing of the past?

What is your take on this SS, model 11?

Has anyone handled/tried one?

The above statement is your first clue as to the long term viability of the no 11 Luxus arms rifle, IMHO.

The other problem with Luxus is they are known for "bait and switch" marketing.They have done the same thing with that rifle. They claimed at first to be making a plain grade at less than 1k with the fancy grade wood versions costing about 2K. Less than a year later, when actually produced, they cost double that- and they are still an ugly rifle.

They have started up at least 4 gun stock/gun companies companies in the last 5 years and only two of them really make/sell anything.. You cannot get a live person to answer the phone when you call. They are not even known for backing a 1K stock blanks for defects, why would you give them 3K for a rifle that may not work, which they may not back?

The "No. 11" is a rather ugly rifle action for 3k IMHO , no matter what grade or species of wood it has on it..

Unproven design and based on no existing action. They do not even show the operating features on the site. The shape and mill work on the action makes an H&R Handi rifle look sleek by comparison.

If I had 2K or more to spend on a custom grade single shot rifle, it would be going to Shiloh, C Sharps ,CPA or a few other action/rifle makers- not the clowns at "Luxus Arms".

They are the "used car salesmen" of the gun world, IMHO.

Jim I don't disagree, I had not seen anything on here about them. If I had that money to spend it would go to something else.

AJD..

I guess my point is- a beautiful(and overpriced) piece of Turkish walnut does not a fine single shot rifle make..

I agree, and those were also my thoughts, I was curious as to others opinions. I had not seen the rifle discussed here.

Thanks for responding.

Who would you recommend for a #1-#3 Stock?

I have to chime in here...have you contacted Luxus and asked if they'd stock a #1?

Luxus did a #1S .300 H&H Mag for me, and I couldn't be happier with the result.

Although I must agree, that #11 is fugly.

At this time considering the $1,500+ Luxus charges for their finished Ruger no 1 stocks- I would go with Wenig.

$1,500 will buy a very nice No 1 set from them.

NY-No I have not spoken to them. I would periodically go to their site to look and get ideas of what I like.

Thanks Jim! I talked to them a while back (mostly about a fitting a shotgun stock) and had forgotten they told me they would do a #1.

Hello ADJ,
Here is a thread talking about the Luxus M 11..
http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9421043/m/3091038351/p/2

Note Mr. Freeman hasn't answered questions about his less expensive version and why the finish product isn't even close to to what was described as a "Sort of a cross between a model 10 and a farqaursen"..
I usually give a person the benefit of the doubt when it comes to things like this but so far I have to say Jim62 has hit the nail on the head as far as Luxus is concerned..

catnthehat who posts here has used a "Treebone Carving" stock for his Ruger #1 .303 project..

http://www.treebonecarving.com/id18.html

Thanks Nrut!

I'm familiar with George over at Treebone, for me and those I have spoken to that have used his services, he has been great to work with. IMO very knowledgeable, friendly, and willing to share his knowledge with us novices.. I've never heard anything but good things about him.

I just took a peek at the Model 11 on the Luxus site...I have to say that the lines on that thing are atrocious. If I was spending some serious cheddar, it would definitely go to a Model 10 before I ever put money on the Luxus.

It makes the lines of the old Edsel car from the 50's look breathtaking. I think it might be the ugliest single shot I've seen in a long time. Even fancy wood can't dress up that dog. Like putting Roseanne Barr in a fancy prom dress and telling folks she's the next Miss America.

Yep, I think you could take a #1, restock it, rebarrel it, and be miles ahead.

EXACTLY!

I had a custom #1 made up using a treebone stock set as well. Good stuff, until it it went in for service and Ruger refused to give it back without it leaving as a factory gun.

something tells me theres a 17 PPC running around new hampshire


ML

sounds like the same thing Dakota did with their Predator!

ML

ML - as good looking as that 17 was - YOU THINK??? LOL.

My Contender carbine with a 16.25 inch barrel is also ugly, but it has a purpose........ jack

VAturkey, thats a cold statement that you made about Rosanne Barr, but....it's right on the money!LOL!

One of the guys I know at the local gun shop had a #1 .300HH stocked by them,it's done by CNC with no hand fitting.He has since sent to a real wood guy to get the extra wood off it and get the lines to flow a little better,Killer piece of wood to work with and it will look a lot better when it gets back,but he'll have a lot of $$ in it.....

Having actually handled & shot a Model 11, I would suggest reserving judgment until you've held one in your hands.

Well, if you have actually handled and shot one of them, how in the hell does it operate?

It is obviously a break open single shot, but..

What opens it?

Does it have a hammer?

Safety?

How does the forend release?

Not a thing in any of Luxus' sales pitches mentions that.

It opens via the trigger guard lever (like a contenter) the hammer is on the right side. No manual safety. Forend is removed via a single floating screw.

The trigger is excellent and accuracy was quite good for a 6 pound rifle. I checked my zero in the headlights at 2 am & put two 130gr SPs in the same hole.

The rifle is TINY which you really have to see to appreciate.

Now it is a 6 lb. rifle?
How does it lock up?

Least you may think that I am down on this rifle, I am not..
But at the same time I not interested in buying a rifle where at least 2/3's of the price is in the wood..
The appearance of the action doesn't warrant $2300.00 wood to my eye..
I hope Luxus does well with this rifle but like I said in the other thread here on the model 11 they are going to have to come up with a version priced no more than the Ruger #1 if they want to succeed in today's tough market over the long term IMO..

The one that I tested was just over 6 pounds.

My entire review will be published in the near future, I'll reserve further comments until then and reference the article. My obligation is to my publisher/editor so the integrity of the article comes first.

I will say this, I rarely purchase test rifles and I'm buying a Model 11.

I doubt they will EVER make a rifle priced lower than 2k.

Here is why-

Looking at their price list, an EXTRA BARREL ALONE costs $1,250 !

The barrels are the same no matter WHAT kind of wood is put on the gun.

I doubt they will ever make a lower grade rifle at twice that price even with a plain stock.

Jim,
I just went to their website and see that they have upped the price of their additional barrels to $595.00 from what is stated in the post below..
The additional barrel price of $1200.00 you refer to includes a forearm hanger and forearm made from their top grade wood no doubt to match their butt stock..

From here:
http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9421043/m/3091038351/p/2

AFreeman
one of us
Posted 04 June 2011 17:21 Hide Post
Fetishfrog, thanks for the compliment.

For the time being additional barrels are $425.

We brought the barrels assembly/production in-house. We are outsourcing match grade barrel blanks and building the lump and hinge system to our desired accuracy/tolerances, which are exceptionally tight, at our facility.

Adam

http://www.luxusarms.com

http://www.luxuswalnut.com


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OK.. my bad..

But still- at $1,250 with the forend included, the complete rifle would need the action and buttstock.

I still don't see them ever making one of those rifles for less than $2,500

Thanks for your reply..
Can you tell us which periodical your article is going to be in and what issue it will be in?
I am looking forward to reading you review..
Thanks!

Jim,
I was basing my post on the information the Gun toter posted in his thread here..
http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9421043/m/5441036051/p/1

Gun toter was the first to spill the beans on this rifle..
He seems to have missed the mark by a mile on pricing and the actual type of rifle the Luxus model 11 is, comparing a break-open rifle to two very nice looking falling blocks..
But then maybe he was just repeating the information he was given..
Who knows as there was lots of confusion at first!..
Now that every thing is coming out in the wash I can't get to excited about this rifle until they come out with the lower grade model priced accordingly....

This is a quote from AFreeman on his Model 11 thread (june 28 post)..
quote:
As to the gun that will sell below $1,000, it is likely in the future, but first things first, we must remain flexible and adaptable to continue to grow as a company and to continue to stay profitable so that we can grow. That means to continue to build these first guns.
http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9421043/m/3091038351/p/2

I have to admit I really got horned up over Gun toters description of the model 11 in his thread above and I was ready to order!
I am easy when it comes to falling blocks...

It will be in one of the NRA publications, likely before the end of the year. I'll post an update when I have specifics

Falling block? I thought this rifle was break open action. Looking at the information on the Luxus website, it looks like there is a hinge pin similar to T/C Contender/Encore.

It is a break-open..

I too have ordered a luxus rifle. a few weeks ago I called Clay about ordering a rifle. I live just a couple of hours away from Luxus, so Clay insisted that I stop by so he could show me the facility and handle the rifles.
The rifles were very sweet and light weight. However i prefer a little heavier rifle. The rifles will be available in three different barrel weights. The light one pictured on the web site, a medium weight, (simular to a Ruger 1-B)and a heavy barrel for large calibers. I chose the medium weight.
I was also able to pick my own wood. They had several stocks already turned and pallets of blanks waiting to be turned. The one I picked is simply stunning! They were all nice but i choose the pick of the litter! haha
The reciever, I chose to have it Color case hardened. Doug Turnbull does the CC hardening for them. This rifle will be a memorial to my daughter who was killed in a automobile accident in June. The reciever will be engraved with my daughter's name on one side and her dates on the other.
I was also able to choose the serial number. I am expecting to recieve it sometime around Christmas.
As for it being a ugly rifle, i guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I can tell you this rifle is Beautiful in person.
Oh, and as far as Luxus not responding to calls, i have gotten a answer everytime i called or e-mailed. Always withen 24 hours. I meet Clay and Tony while i was there, but never got to meet Adam. Clay and Tony were very friendly and answered all my guestions.

Interesting handle.