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Posted By: Flyer01 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/21/16
Any word on this year's models and cartridges?

Rumors and or releases from the SHOT Show ?

Flyer
Posted By: tex_n_cal Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/21/16
I think they're still trying to build the ones they announced last year smile

The .223's eventually made it out in decent numbers. I've seen exactly three .257 Wbys
Posted By: Flyer01 Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/21/16
Haven't seen any 223 . One dealer has a 257 listed. Holding out for RSI in 6.5x55. Retail price in Canada now is $1869.00.

Flyer
Posted By: tex_n_cal Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/21/16
there's probably 10 of the K1V .223's on Gunbroker, now - they have hit there in the past 2-3 weeks.
Posted By: 21 Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/21/16
The RSI's are available last I looked on Gunbroker, the Weatherby on the other hand seems to be made of unobtanium. I'd like a Weatherby, somehow.
Posted By: pseshooter300 Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/26/16
What is the wood like
Posted By: tex_n_cal Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/26/16
That's my .223:

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it's frankly about the best one I've seen. One of the .257's seemed almost as good, but it sold almost instantly on GB.

The new runs of Swifts and 7.62x39's are all quite plain.
Posted By: Flyer01 Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/26/16
My local dealer spoke with Jason at the Shot show. Once Ruger has completed the production of the 2015 series of #1's , Lipseys will decide on the 2106 lineup.

Flyer
Posted By: jaytee Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/27/16
I sure hope they get some better wood, no offense to those that have bought the new ones but damn, for that kind of money it should look better.
Posted By: War_Eagle Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/27/16
I agree Jaytee. Just as Tex N Cal said, the wood they are using right now is VERY plain. I bought one of the recent runs (2014 I think) of the 1V .220 Swift and I have seen more figure on pallets.

I would really like to have one of the 9.3x62's, and my FFL's distributor has a pair on his shelf, but I don't want to tell him to order one in only to see no figure. Just can't bring myself to spend $1400 on a rifle that has the same quality of wood that you see on a $300 Savage.

That makes Gunbroker more and more appealing to me. Its hassle to play middle man and arrange for deliveries between FFLs if you win the auction...but being able to review the wood quality before you buy and BEAT MSRP is just to hard too pass up. I have seen rifles on Gunbroker recently from decades ago that look great, have beautiful grain and mineral streaking and go less than $1K.
Posted By: tex_n_cal Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/27/16
This is my 7.62x39. It's the best of last year's production, that I have seen. I am tempted to try a refinish with tung oil to see if it brings out the mineral streaks.

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Posted By: pseshooter300 Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/27/16
That one isn't bad but some in have seen are very plain
Posted By: El_Numero_Uno Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/27/16
That has to be the best 7.62x39 I have seen!
Posted By: X1Proto Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/28/16
Be sure to send your wants to Jason at Lipsey's for the 2016 No1 Models.
I suggested a 1S in 348 Winchester with 26 inch barrel for the 50th anniversary of the No1 rifles with Circassion Walnut and a "Pachmayr Old English Reddish Brown Pad".
Posted By: 21 Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/28/16
Originally Posted by X1Proto
Be sure to send your wants to Jason at Lipsey's for the 2016 No1 Models.
I suggested a 1S in 348 Winchester with 26 inch barrel for the 50th anniversary of the No1 rifles with Circassion Walnut and a "Pachmayr Old English Reddish Brown Pad".


I'm in on that one! Of course, I haven't been able to track down the 2015 model I want yet...
Posted By: tex_n_cal Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/28/16
Originally Posted by X1Proto
Be sure to send your wants to Jason at Lipsey's for the 2016 No1 Models.
I suggested a 1S in 348 Winchester with 26 inch barrel for the 50th anniversary of the No1 rifles with Circassion Walnut and a "Pachmayr Old English Reddish Brown Pad".


smile

You got an email for him?

The .348 would be pretty cool, but I bet Ruger would cringe at the cost of the hammer forging dies for the barrel, spread over 250 rifles. Also tough to find pointed bullets, that really let you take advantage of the single shot.

A K1B in 26 Nosler would work for me - with nice wood. Or even a .28 Nosler

The #1A's in .30-30 are hard to find - I bet a bunch of people would jump on those.

A 1A .25-35 would be neat. Or even a 7-30 Waters.

A K1V in .22-250AI with 1 in 8" barrel would be a logical step after the K1V .223. Or even a Swift in the same barrel & twist.

A #1H in .416 Rigby with a C weight barrel would likewise be really cool, and handier than the ones they've made in the past.

None of these should be hugely expensive to tool up.
Posted By: gewehrfreund Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/28/16
Not too sure about another run of 30-30s, but I'd bet some 1As in either 218 Bee or 22 Hornet (or both) would be pretty good sellers.
And I still don't understand why the 1V was never made in 308 Win. (yes, I know about the single non-prefix example). A 1V in 308 with 26" stainless barrel and nice walnut would even interest ME!
Posted By: jaytee Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/28/16
I'd like to see a triple deuce with killer wood front and rear!!
Posted By: tex_n_cal Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/28/16
I've seen a couple of .222's that had good wood. Wish I had realized earlier they had 1 in 9" twist barrels, I might have grabbed one.
Posted By: gewehrfreund Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/28/16
Originally Posted by tex_n_cal
I've seen a couple of .222's that had good wood. Wish I had realized earlier they had 1 in 9" twist barrels, I might have grabbed one.


My non-prefix AH 222 has pretty nice wood ;-)
Posted By: SCGunNut Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/28/16
While we're dreaming, I'm holding out for a 1-S 8x68S with 26" half round/half octagon barrel and Turnbull case colored receiver. Yeah, THAT will happen!

A bit more realistic, they've never done a .17 cal No. 1, so how 'bout a 1-AH in .17 Rem.
Posted By: Jim in Idaho Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/28/16
Here's what I'd like to see in 2016:


Lower the price. Or make the accuracy, trigger and wood worth upwards of $1200 retail.
Posted By: Flyer01 Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/28/16

+1 on the 25-35, slope necked rimmed cartridge is a natural in a 1A.

They have made .357 Mags so making a 1A in .358 Winchester shouldn't be too much of a stretch.

Agreed a 1A in 218 Bee and or 22 Hornet would be great , My 1S Bee is pretty heavy for that little cartridge .

or 1AH with a slim 24" barrel in 218 Bee, Hornet and .222 Remington.


Flyer

Posted By: ingwe Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/28/16
Originally Posted by tex_n_cal
I've seen a couple of .222's that had good wood. Wish I had realized earlier they had 1 in 9" twist barrels, I might have grabbed one.



I've got one...but the wood is as plain as it gets....
Posted By: Spotshooter Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/28/16
One of you guys need to explain what the draw of a #1 is.

Posted By: War_Eagle Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/28/16
Originally Posted by Spotshooter
One of you guys need to explain what the draw of a #1 is.



If you have to ask... whistle

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Posted By: Son_of_the_Gael Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/28/16
Yep.
Posted By: Spotshooter Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/28/16
Never used one, don't have friends that have them.

Just sayin'
Posted By: dvdegeorge Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/28/16
Simple beauty,handles well,fun to shoot and hunt with
Posted By: old70 Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/28/16
While we're dreaming, I'd like to see an RSI in .30-40 Krag.
Posted By: bcmtnmonkey Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/28/16
Originally Posted by Spotshooter
One of you guys need to explain what the draw of a #1 is.



Balance is superb which makes it a joy to carry. You can have a longer barrel in a shorter overall package. The lines are classic in the way that a '56 Chev is classic. They can be as accurate as any other rifle with some tlc. Some folks know they only need one round. And it's rifle that not every peckerwood buys at the local gunstore and tacticools up.

Having said that, Browning B78's are pretty cool too...
Posted By: tex_n_cal Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/29/16
Or the Sharps smile
Posted By: jaytee Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/29/16
There's just something about that curvy trigger guard and lever that just draws you in. Its starts with a second glance at the gun store when you notice this beautiful rifle and how it stands out from the rest of the crowd. Then you ask the counter person to hand it to you and you examine it up close and run your hands over the fine walnut and then your drawn to the shape and feel of that seductively shaped lever action and the beautiful bluing. You shoulder the weapon and its like putting on your well worn favorite hunting jacket for the first day of hunting season.Its a natural comfortable fit. You bring it down and look it over again and say to yourself someday I'll be able to afford one of these and then you hand it back to the attendant. You stand there for a few minutes, almost dumbfounded with crazy thoughts running through your head. After signing your name on the sales slip, you walk out of the store on cloud nine and cant wait to get home and try it out. Thats pretty much how it works with a Ruger No.1.
Originally Posted by Spotshooter
One of you guys need to explain what the draw of a #1 is.

Posted By: Klikitarik Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/29/16
Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
Simple beauty,handles well,fun to shoot and hunt with


And they also work so well in the cold. wink

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Posted By: GuyM Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/29/16
Originally Posted by Spotshooter
One of you guys need to explain what the draw of a #1 is.



I've had four. Down to one now. Never regretted buying one. Regret selling the three.

They are different, but in a classy way. Look good. Feel good. Generally work real well. Rugged, reliable. But for me it's that they're different, and classy.

The one I still own is a .375 H&H, and although I dream of taking it to Alaska or Africa someday, it's been an absolute hoot here in Washington, spot & stalk bear hunting. I take it out to the range, just for fun and practice. One of my favorite rifles.

I think they either grab you, or they don't. Go heft one. Read up on them a little. Borrow a friends Number One. You might enjoy.

Regards, Guy
Posted By: Son_of_the_Gael Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/29/16
Single shots in the broad sense require a change in the hunter's attitude. "I only have one shot, it must be a good one." I consider this a good change.

No.1's have historically been a very good blend of style and price. 1885's and Sharps have all the style, but usually have been somewhat more costly. NEA's and H&R's had the low cost but no style.
Posted By: whackem_stackem Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/29/16
Is there a purpose for the notch on the forend?
I have noticed that some models have it and some don't.
Posted By: Klikitarik Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/29/16
When I was in my 20s, I thought the notches- the Alex Henry fore-end- looked dumb. I preferred the look of the beavertail fore-end. Now my thinking is reversed. But I also like the way the AH fore-end feels too. That may affect why I like their looks. I suspect those notches may have originated with the use of fore-end sticks or other shooting support device. I look forward to hearing from someone with more knowledge.
Posted By: oldman1942 Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/29/16
The best Number 1s come from:

http://www.classicsportingarms.com/rugers-for-sale/

Bought a 1B 06' from him that is getting rebored to 35 Whelen. Red pad with great wood. It will get an AH fore end, New England irons and a barrel band. It's the only way to get a Whelen with decent barrel weight and 24".

Total cost will be around $1500.

A current No. 1 with good wood is as rare as a Clinton truth.

Wonderful rifles !
Posted By: the_shootist Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/29/16
The slickness and precision of the action, and the solid way they lock up is something as well. I only have one number one -- a 1H in 405 Winchester. It is three rifles to me. 1) a big bore, 2) an older cartridge with some cool factor, and 3) a Ruger #1.

Mine is very accurate even with factory ammo, but it really like 300 grain Barnes X bullets and either H4895 powder or Benchmark.
Posted By: GuyM Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/30/16
I have no idea what the purpose of that "notch" might be - like some others - it just grew on me. There are some distinct styles of the Number One - stock patterns, sights/no sights, etc...

Mine sure makes me grin when I shoot it, at the range or afield:

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Very viable as a serious hunting rifle too - not just a collector's piece, not at all.

Regards, Guy
Posted By: Son_of_the_Gael Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/30/16
I don't know the purpose of the notch either, but if you Google Alexander Henry Rifle you'll find some really wonderful 19th Century rifles with the little notch
in the fore end. I understand old Al made rifles for the Royals so it might just be for looks. He also came up with the rifling pattern for the Martini-Henrys IIRC.
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/30/16
Originally Posted by spalding
The best Number 1s come from:

http://www.classicsportingarms.com/rugers-for-sale/

Bought a 1B 06' from him that is getting rebored to 35 Whelen. Red pad with great wood. It will get an AH fore end, New England irons and a barrel band. It's the only way to get a Whelen with decent barrel weight and 24".

Total cost will be around $1500.

A current No. 1 with good wood is as rare as a Clinton truth.

Wonderful rifles !

Interesting reference to truth, by "new member", Spalding who isn't a new member at all, but old member/troll, Larry Root.

Deception is a form of lying, the antithesis of truth.

DF
Posted By: fourbore Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/31/16
I think the mannlicher model would be more attractive and more practical if the front sling loop was replaced with a stud. It is a dent waiting to happen and ugly to boot. Most of the gun on the rack, come pre-dented.

I think all the good ideas already been covered and recovered. For instance, 22hornet, 30/30, 30/40, 405 and 45/70.

The 416 Ribgy is too much of a good thing, I like the 450/400 and if that is not getting it done maybe the 450NE. I think they did a 9.3x74 which is probably more my No1 speed.

Have there ever been a 50 caliber No1? The 500 s&w mag might be a fun thumper. I hear these can really kick, so a 24" medium weight barrel might be a good idea.

Or old 50/110 Winchester if Hornady would oblige. Probably 50/110 is a non starter. What a great idea for the high wall and or both hi-wall and 1886. Wrong thread.... but really, how cool would a 50/110 be?
Posted By: Spotshooter Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/31/16
OK I'll start looking at them and checking balance... They do look neat.
Posted By: tex_n_cal Re: 2016 Ruger # 1 - 01/31/16
Originally Posted by fourbore
I think the mannlicher model would be more attractive and more practical if the front sling loop was replaced with a stud. It is a dent waiting to happen and ugly to boot. Most of the gun on the rack, come pre-dented.

I think all the good ideas already been covered and recovered. For instance, 22hornet, 30/30, 30/40, 405 and 45/70.

The 416 Ribgy is too much of a good thing, I like the 450/400 and if that is not getting it done maybe the 450NE. I think they did a 9.3x74 which is probably more my No1 speed.

Have there ever been a 50 caliber No1? The 500 s&w mag might be a fun thumper. I hear these can really kick, so a 24" medium weight barrel might be a good idea.

Or old 50/110 Winchester if Hornady would oblige. Probably 50/110 is a non starter. What a great idea for the high wall and or both hi-wall and 1886. Wrong thread.... but really, how cool would a 50/110 be?


A .475 Turnbull, which I own, is a .50-110 necked down to .475, so certainly a .50-110 is a possibility. But I'm not sure if they could get away with that in a C weight barrel. Might have to be the D.
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