I followed the gun registration thing in Canada closely. The man who put gun registration in place was Pierre Trudeau through a bill called C-51. It was for people control. Not crime control.
Trudeau was very much a communist. Fidel Castro liked hi so much he attended Trudeau's funeral. The family of Maurice Strong, who was part of Trudeau's inner circle took part in the communist revolution. Strong's one time partner, the late Paul Nathanson, was a communist spy.
Do you remember when Fidel Castro dumped his prisoners into Miami. Trudeau did exactly the same thing in Canada. Trudeau had a Marxist Prime Minister friend in Jamaica named Michael Manley. Under Manley's rule the country was disintegrating and there were street riots everywhere.
To get Manley off the hook Trudeau imported Jamaica's street hoodlums into Canada, without background checks, in the name of multi-culturalism. Trudeau gave them money, dental and health care etc. etc.
When I left Toronto 20 years ago there were NO street gangs and you could walk anywhere in town without being bothered. Now there are 120, mostly Jamaican, street gangs who live from the drug trade and the murder rate has doubled. Much of the city is unsafe.
Its a simple fact that Marxist Trudeau did everything he could to disarm law abiding Canadians while at the same time he and the Liberal Party of Canada did more than anyone else in Canadian history to boost the crime rate in Canada.
Trudeaus Minister of Immigration, Lloyd Axeworthy (who tried to become Prime Minsiter) was even photographed driving a man identified by Italian police as a CAPO MAFIOSO from Winnipeg to North Dakota so he could briefly leave and then immediately return to Canada, extend his immigation permit, and stay in Canda longer. He was in Axeworthy's car. The story, by Bob Reguly, was in the Toronto Sun.
The Liberal party of Canada is the reason they now have gunfights in downtown Toronto, with as many as 15 participants, which is even more than at the gunfight at the OK Corral in the old west. Just Twenty years ago such a thing was unheard of.
You have to forgive the Liberals. After all they consider themselves the "natural ruling party" of Canada. They think you and me are stupid and can't remember what happened. If they thought it would help them get elected, they would attempt to revise history, change their position,and blame the Conservatives, even if it was a Liberal bill that brought in registration.
Trudeau was dispised by most Francaphones and Western Canadians.
He was loved by those in Ontario and oddly by the rest of the world, especially women. I had no use for the man but won't paint the Libs as all bad as it was they who broke the deficeit spending of both parties including Mullronies Conservatives.
Trudeau was evil, rich and stupid wheras Mulroney would take food from a starving child if given half chance. There is a great book about Mulrony calked "On The Take" by Stevie Cameron and there was no better comedy on TV than Mulroney's questioning about bribery in the Karl Heinz Schreiber Affair.
Paul Martin and Trudeau's old buddy Maurice Strong owned an oil company together called Codex. And aside from crime fighting, like trying to take the handguns of all Canadians, Martin and Strong (whio invented the idea of Global warming) made deals with Saddam Hussein knowing he was a monster.
Husseins cousin "Chemical" Ali was executed today. Martin knew these guys were killing innoncent women and children and worked hand in hand with them. The Walls Street Journal published a list of people on the take from Hussein.
The heart and soul of the liberal Party was first of all Paul Demerais' power corp and it has shifted to Gerry Schwartz's Onex Corp.
In my opinion these are all seriously bad people. I think its time for the Federal Liberal Party of Canada to disappear forever. Its a rotten apple right to the core.
Good Post, Burner, I don't think this is off-topic
AB2506,....is the old Forest Lawn District of Cowtown still plagued with similar problems ?
When I split in '93 it was Tongs, Triads, and the Calgary Fuzz had put together ran "Asian Crime Unit" .
Hell of a mess, that.
GTC
We have the same problem here in the U.S.A. today with our elected top official exactly.
I don't know Calgary but I know that any decisions Trudeau's immigration Minister Lloyd Axeworthy had a hand ought to be investigated in detail.
Twenty years ago the two major corrupting influences in Canada were the Soviet Union and the Hong Kong Triad. Since the collpase of the Soviet Union it has become the Triad and the deciples of Myer Lansky, former hit man and head of murder incorporated.
The Triad moved to Toronto just before Hong Kong was handed back to Red China just to cover their bets. But they owned lots of property in Hong Kong and couldn't move it so they gradually made sweetheart deals with the Red Chinese. Now they work hand in hand. The TRIAD owns major Canadian banks.
Myer Lansky's people are the same ones who built Los Vegas and who Castro kicked out of Cuba. They have for years been laundering money in Canada and now they too own many major industries and huge valuable properties. they work hand in hand with the Triad - divy up the pie.
I very much question the role of Liberal Bob Rae who wanted to be Prime Minister of Canada. Rae was once premier of Ontario for the NDP party and the only thing he did in Ontario was bring in large Chinese owned gambling casinos. He left the NDP and joined the Liberals when members of his own party criticized Israel.
In Canada the big wheels are never arrested. They are always arrested in the USA or Britain. Hockey lawyer Al Eaglesons was arrested and jailed in the USA. Lord Conrad Black was arrested
and jailed int eh USA. He is still in jail. Most troubling is th acse of Laval University professor Hugh Hambleton who was a Russian spy. He was free as a bird in Canada when former Liberal PM Jean Cretien was Trudeau's Minister of justice. The RCMP ought to have made the arrest but did not. He s finally arrested and jailed in England.
There are now real nasty people at the top in Canada and it all began with Pierre Trudeau.
Trudeau was was the wrost kind of intelectual liberal elitest! Today his ardent supporters still espouse tolorance of others beliefs but as long as it agrees with thiers.
Trudeau's son is the new rising star of the Liberal Party of Canada,the anointed one who will lead them back to power.He is another elitist socialist like his father,like Stephane Dion,and Michael Ignatieff.None of these people give two hoots about Canada or Canadians,they care only for power,and to saddle voters with their big tax socialist agenda.When you add Bob Rae to the mix it gets downright ugly.Every night before I go to bed I pray for a Harper majority government.We already have the numbers in the Senate that we need to get things done! MOnashee
Dear Monashee,
I agree completely. I have not yet seen any evidence that the Harper Tories are corrupt or linked to serious organized crime like the liberals are and I am sure they know what has been going on in Canada for many years. I would like to see them get a majority, take the money that has spent on thing like the gun registration - give it to the RCMP - even appoint Elliot Ness type G men with Tommy Guns if need be and let them take the bit in their teeth and go after the big fish.
On a positive note the driving force behind the federal Liberals and their power base in the GTA in Ontario is the Toronto Star which keeps losing money.
They only survive because they own Harlequin Romances. The paper makes no money now. They had to fire 150 people last year. They are losing control of information dissemination to websites like this one and will not have the influence in the future that they have had in the past.
All the good Canadian crime storie have been broken by US papers and not by the star. The examples are the ones mentioned above - Al Eagleson, Conrad Black and spy Hugh Hambleton - all major Canadian stories and all broken by US media and all arrests made by US law enforcment officials and all prisons terms served in US prisons. That tells you how bad things have been in Canada.
Here is another interesting little story. Remember the Canadian para regiment that was disbanded by Paul Martin because a member killed a Somali who tried to rob them. The Canadian media (and especially Toronto Star) spin was that this was an example of a white supremist attitude in the Canadian military.
What was never discussed was the fact that the guy who killed the Somali was an Indian - not a Gujarati Indian but a first Nations Indian.
It was just case of the Somalis meet the Iroquois. Pierre Radisson encountered the same problem.
Dear Monashee,
Trudeau's son has his fathers looks but he has his mother's brains. No worries!
Previous Liberal governments have always used the Canadian Forces as a whipping boy.It started with Paul Hellyer's unification of the Sevices and continued through Somalia,to the Chretien/Martin deployment of Canadian Forces to Afghanistan with no directives and woeful equipment.The present Liberal partie's preoccupation with the treatment of Afghan detainees can be traced directly back to the Martin Liberals,and I think this will come out more when Parliment resumes sitting,although I don't expect the Canadian MSM to say much about it! Monashee
I think the next step would be to borrow money from China to rebuild Haiti? That would fit in nicely with all the BS that goes on in this country. Good posts fellas and enlightening to say the least. I find it ironic that you have to go to an American website forum to find out what's going on in Canada's nasty background. And they say there is only censorship in China.
James Richardson, who was Canada's Minister of Defence at one time, used to say the key to understanding Pierre Trudeau was to know that he hated English Speaking Canadians.
He hardly ever visited English Canada. He married Margarette to get the western vote. He spent much more time with "bachelors" like Michael Pitfield and with Marc Lalonde than he ever did with Margaret which is why she in turn hung out at drug dens in NYC and with the Rolling Stones. She was straight.
Trudeau knew that when he dumped Jamaica's street criminals into Canada they would go to Toronto because they spoke English. Trudeau lived in Montreal. No worries for him.
The way to get even is to take all of Haiti's worst street criminals and let them too come to Canada using the disaster as the reason. They speak French. They will all end up in Montreal, double the crime rate there, and keep the likes of Paul Martin looking over his shoulder like residents of Toronto have to do today.
Right on! but I note that the orphans are arriving in Toronto not Montreal. So the rest of the families will also follow there. Once a link is established many relatives will come out of the wood work,(or should I say rock piles) quaranteed. Canada doesn't need more immigrants, what we need is the taxation lowered so we can have bigger families to replace the dieing, not importing people that breed like rabbits and don't care about responsibilities in educating their children or what happens to them after they walk and feed themselves. Parenting doesn't end when they are at this point. Only animals think this way.
Dear Monashee,
Trudeau's son has his fathers looks but he has his mother's brains. No worries!
Now, that's funny!
Dear Monashee,
Trudeau's son has his fathers looks but he has his mother's brains. No worries!
Now, that's funny!
That IS funny!I new Margeret in Noth Vancouver in the late 60's early 70s.Everything they say about her is true!What a party animal
Good Post, Burner, I don't think this is off-topic
AB2506,....is the old Forest Lawn District of Cowtown still plagued with similar problems ?
When I split in '93 it was Tongs, Triads, and the Calgary Fuzz had put together ran "Asian Crime Unit" .
Hell of a mess, that.
GTC
Calgary still has those issues and more now. Just a couple uears ago, there was a shooting at South Centre Mall, gang related, but innocent bystanders injured, downtown echos with gunfire regularly. Often the gangs are Asian or affiliated with them. Other parts of town are crawling with Somalies, Eastern Europe is well represented.....
Cowtown it isn't anymore and that is real shame! Calgary today, is one of a very few places in Canada where I wish I could carry a handgun.
I can remember the Bowness area in the mid eighties had a rep for being dangerous. That was just good ole boy bikers. Used to be a couple good bars there, bikers only but soldiers were welcome in them too! Had some good times! Never had too many issues with Asian gangs etc in that part of town.
Dear troutfly,
I am sorry to hear that about Calgary. My father took me there to see the stampede when I was a boy. It was a great city.
The Federal Liberal party is behind multi-cukturalism and it seems to have been a vote buying thing. We let you in and give you the benefits and you vote for us.
The Liberals under Trudeau and Lloyd Axeworhty brought in thousands of hooligans and they get free medical care and other care. An immigrant gets free dental care and a Canadian resident can't get that. The Canadian tax payer was never asked if he wanted multi-culturalism and he gets stiffed for the bill. The new arrivals vote Liberal from then on because Liberal lavish the money of other Canadians on them.
I was in a Toronto bar called Crooks (It was owned by Dan Akroyd the actor) one time and a very attractive Jamaican girl came up to me and said she wanted me to "give her baby."
I thought that is very bold of her but it turns out it was a kind of business. Unwed mothers get free or reduced rent apartments and they get so much a baby in support money until the kids are 18 or so. So they time the babies they have to keep the money coming and this girl needed another $300 a month at the time.
The thin edge of the multiculturalism wedge wedge was a Hungarian guy named Leon. I had dinner with he and his elegant wife one day. He created a thing in Toronto called caribana or some similar name. Just forget the exact name.
They promoted a thing where different countries set up pavillions to show of their local dances and sell their local foods.
The whole idea behind it seemed to be to show how great multiculturalism was, to soften Canadians up for what they did no know was looming on the horizon.
Toronto was at one time a very safe city. Bob MacDinald who had a newspaper column in Toronto told me that in the days before air conditioning was invented people in Toronto used to sleep in the park on hot summer nights in sleeping bags and leave their houses unlocked.
When my father took me to Toronto as a small boy there wasn't a single beggar on the streets. I didn't even know such things as beggars existed.
Now the place is full of gangs, beggars, drug dealers, pimps. You name it. It has come with multiculturalism.
I would gladly forego the odd goat meat restaurant to make Toronto the way it was 30 years ago.
I'm not contadicting,I was never too impressed with PET. But I think we put too much blame on politians,it's an easy to look at change.Our world has changed,and certainly not for the better.
Dear Downwindtracker2,
The world has not yet finished going to hell. That is true. But the changes for the worse in Canada are traceable to the federal Liberal Party of Canada - and to the people who ran it like Pierre Trudeau, his minister of immigration Lloyd Axeworthy, and his minister of justice Jean Cretien.
The 120 street gangs in Toronto, and I know for a fact there were none there only 20 years ago because I lived there - are directly traceable to the Liberal party and its inner circle centered around Power Corp in Montreal. They trashed Canada. They ought to be made to pay for that.
In Canada people do not seem to realize that they are the government and decisions should be made from the grass roots up. If you let government operate from the top down you get looted.
Government are just a pool of vested interests. They have to be kept on a leash like a junk yard dog.
Immigration and vote getting are always tied in,just look at the policies at the turn of the last century.
One Americian commentator blamed it on TV and air-conditioning,and he made a strong case.
I grew up around Vancouver and I mourn the loss of that safe and civil society.
There has always been gangs,wheither Chinese triad or Italian mafa.But since drugs,there much more street level volence.(sp)
I don't have an answer,but blaming politians is much too easy.
Immigration and vote getting are always tied in,just look at the policies at the turn of the last century.
One Americian commentator blamed it on TV and air-conditioning,and he made a strong case.
I grew up around Vancouver and I mourn the loss of that safe and civil society.
There has always been gangs,wheither Chinese triad or Italian mafa.But since drugs,there much more street level volence.(sp)
I don't have an answer,but blaming politians is much too easy.
In many ways you can fault the politicians for the drug problems too. They have not been willing to pass the type of legislation that would really deter dealing. There need to be mandatory minimum sentences that CANNOT BE PLEA BARGAINED DOWN OR AWAY! No deals struck of any kind. Hit the smugglers/dealers hard. Immediate deportation of non-citizens, strip naturalized citizens of such and deport immediately. No appeals. Significant federal time for those born here who choose to deal in drugs. Provide realistic help for those addicted but not dealing. Addicted/dealing equals dealer equals prison. Encourage and allow Canadians to defend our towns, neighbourhoods etc against criminals/dealers/gangs.
Yes it would take quantum change in how Canadians look at things but it needs to happen. Apply these principles to all serious offences and I feel we would have a much safer country.
Dear troutfly,
I agree and it must be done now. International drug dealers and money launderers already have a much stronger hold on Canada, it banks and the economy than most Canadians realize. Their huge store of cash let them manipulate politicians.
These are evil people. They kill children. I know a man who lives in a town where a Russian showed up. The Russian began throwing parties for kids and giving them free drugs to get them hooked. Then he began using them to sell drugs for himself. This man's son is 18 and now he is a vegetable. He sits staring straight ahead and not talking. At other time he just sits and stares and cries.
In war we kill people we would like had we met them socially. In peace we give all kinds of legal rights to psychopathic killers who destroy the lives of children. Something is really wrong.
I pesonally believe drug dealers and pimps should be allowed up to three convictions to give them time to change their ways. After that just take them out behind the barn and shoot them in the head.
Drug dealers are just a money making machine for lawyers.
The last hope for Canada may be to appoint G-men with tommy guns to take these people down like Elliot Ness did in Chicago with Al Capone and his Canadian partner - Sam Bronfman.
If we don't do it now we are going to soon end up with a situation like Mexico where 15,000 people a year have to die in gunfights to bring things under control.
Some rather interesting opinions on Canada, many of our politicians and luminaries and gun control.
I'll leave the argument about who was, or was not, a "Commie" to others - everyone has their own opinions but I would like to express a few facts, not opinions.
1. We have had gun control of one sort or another since Confederation. I have my Father-In-Law's "liscence" dated 1945 if you care to see it. You have had to register handguns since 1934 and automatics since 1951. In 1969 the concept of registering "restricted", "non restricted" and "prohibited " came into effect. Interestingly , Bill C17 which was in 1991 which further limited gun "rights" was enacted by a Conservative, not Liberal Government and received the backing in Parliament of all parties.
2. Some may despise Trudeau but he was "voted" the 3rd most popular Canadian in a poll across Canada. That's pretty good I'd say. First Place interestingly went to Tommy Douglas, a "Socialist" who pioneered national medical services to all Canadians. Trudeau was famous for trying to make Canada "Canadian" rather than being a colony of Britain and he repatriated the Constitution. He was also famous for stating that "the Government has no business in the bedrooms of Canada" which would seem to be against "Socialism" where the State wants to control everything. Seems to me that much, if not most of Canada preferred Trudeau's "Socialism" at the time to the alternatives.
3. The OP notes the actions of a number of infamous Canadians including Al Eagleson. I don't know if the implications were that he was a criminal abetted by the Liberals but the fact is that he was a Conservative Party member and MLA. Contrary to what the OP said, he actually was tried and convicted in both the US and Canada, not just the US.
4. Seems that the OP is blaming all the World's, or at least Canada's present woes on the Liberals. Yes, they have their warts, like all parties before and after but they have also produced such Internationally acclaimed Leaders as Lester Pearson who won the Nobel Peace Prize. Not too shabby an accomplishment.
My point is not to defend Trudeau or the Liberals but the OP's rambling accusation is in many ways baseless and misleading and I felt that there are two sides to every story.
BTW, one of my Canadian "Heroes" was John Diefenbaker - a true Canadian Conservative Prime Minister.
1)One reason Trudeau didn't want government in the bedrooms of Canadians because he was an ac/dc - a fudge stuffer who surrounded himself with other fudge stuffers. Ever notice the huge number of "bachelors" in his inner circle. That is why Margaret was hard to keep on a leash. Trudeau was likely holding his nose when Justin was concieved.
2)Dieffenbaker's government was brought down because the RCMP was in the bedrooms of the nation in those days and they discovered that Pierre Sevigny, Canada's Minister of Defence was sleeping with a Stasi agent named Gerta Munsinger.
Trudeau didn't want the same thing happening to him. That was his reason for his sexual concerns. The first thing he did when he came to office was have the RCMP destroy his own files. They are still floating around. If I can get a copy I will post them.
3)You can get any answer you want in a survey. It depends on how you pose the question. Most Liberal surveys, such as those commissioned by the Liberal party or Liberal institutions like the Toronto Star, are worded to get the response they want. The results are then used to create peer pressure and to justify policy changes. Its all a game.
Hollywood uses these kinds of popularity poles all the time. Julia Roberts was voted most beautifuil woman in the world but she has a mouth that goes from one ear to the other. She isn't even a B grade beauty and never was. And yet she was voted most beautiful woman in the world.
4) Tommy Douglas was a good man just as Nelson Mandela was a good man. The ones who came in his footsteps like Ed Broadbent and the Africans who have followed in Mandelas foot steps are cut from a cloth of a different color.
I met Ed Broadbent in Aruha and talked to him for two hours. He struck me as a cross between a Mississippi River boat gambler and a used car salesman down on his luck.
The breaking newspaper story, the criminal charges, the prosectution and the conviction as well as the jail sentence were FIRST levied against Eagleson in the USA. If he was convicted in Canada it was because the Candian legal system was embarassed into laying charges. The Cnadian press was embarasse into providing newspaper coverage.
The story was finally printed in Canadian newspapers because they had to stop looking stupid. But the story was originalyly dug up by Canadian journaists who could not get it printed in Canada and handed it to their American counter parts. I know the guy who dug it up. He tried to get it printed in Canada for 10 years!
The Nobel prize is a meaningless bauble given to those who play the game. Al Gore just got one for promoting Global warming, a phenomena that doesn't even exist.
Its a meaningless award created by an explosives company for damage control. Peason got his from UN types for collecting and pissing aways millions of dollars of the Canadian taxpayesr money to UN types of useless causes.
Better to have spent the money of health care and education of Canada's children
The Federal Liberal party from the first day of Pierre Trudeau to the last days of Paul Martin was a genuinely corrupt and really evil institution and it is responsible for the shifting of power in Canada out of the hands of legitimate busines and into the hands of international organized crime. That is a fact. The Liberal Party of Canda has to die.
Hnadgun registration was introduced into Canada in the 30s when their was plenty of labour unrest and when it looked like (I think his names was Tim Buck-just forget) the aforementioned man was head of the communist party and the police thought he planned to use violence to take over Canada.
John Dieffenbacker's conservatives were greedy and crooked like the Mulroney conservative and sold radio and TV licence for money and influence but they were not evil like the Federal Liberal party under Trudeau's control. They did not make deal with the devil (Soviet Russia and International drug dealesr who kill children)wheras Trudeau's inner circle most certainly did.
I never liked Dieffenbaker because he scrapped the AVRO arrow project. The Tories have been crooked in the past but I can live with that. I canot live with the Liberals who have been pure distilled evil.
The Conservatives are not blameless,but they are the only show in town if you don't want Canada to become like Britain,which is now a gunless,crime ridden,multicultural cesspool.Loony socialist ideas rule,hopefully Brown will soon be gone and some sanity will prevail.Even then it is too late for the English,but it's not late for us.Vote for any one you wish in the next election,it is our right to do so,but be careful what you wish for.Me,it's Harper all the way,I'd like to keep my guns. Monashee
I wish to clarify my last post. Democratic politicians from all parties tend to have no values of any kind other than feathering their own beds. They are not as a rule great people. The longer they are in office the more opportunties they have to rob the cookie jar which is why in the US the presidncy is limited to two terms.
In Canada all parties have and will contionue to produce alot of crooks. My impression of the Tories is they get involved in bribes and corruption just as much as anyone but on the whole they are just greedy like Brian Mulroney and loot the till when they can.
My problem with the Liberals is the yk�hook up with te most laothesome people on palet eart, people who not only rob the cookies jar but also sell drugs (which is knowingly killing children) and who even hook up with people who murder.
For example Liberal PM Paul Martin and Liberal insider Maurice Strong put together a company called I think Cordex which allegedly accepted bribes from Saddam Husein in the Un Oil for Food scandal. Martin and Strong know what kind of a man Saddam was and yet they ignored the fact that Hussein gassed 5,000 Kurdish villagers to death in order to make a buck.
I will look up the references to this and post them when I have times.
I Guess the difference between the Conservatives and the Liberals in Canada is the difference between a thief and a murderer.
They Tories may be corrupt but so far they haven't been caught. That being the case I'd like to see them get a majority and then give them the chance to go through the whole civil service and upper echelons of the RCMP and clean house.
They might put things on the right track. But I am absolutely certain that if we put men in power like Paul Martin who we know are willing to look the other way when dealing with men like Saddam Hussein that we are certainly doomed.
Stay tuned.
A complete list of Canadians (and other nationalities) on the take from Saddam Hussein is listed in a story called SADDAM'S GLOBAL PAYROLL - Wall Street Journal Feb 9, 2004. I don't have a copy here or I would post it. Maybe somebody knows how to get it. The Canadians named are the heart and soul of the Federal Liberal party. People who turn a blind eye to the gassing of women and children ought not to be running Canda. They ought to be dragged out of their limousines and tarred and feathered.
For real good stuff readily available on the net go to Yahoo and Punch in Maurice Strong and Pittsburg Tribune Review starting with the date July 30, 2006. Anyone who is computer literate (I am not) could post it. He is a scary man and for years was the heart and soul of both the Federal Liberal Party of Canada under Trudeau and the United nations. He created CIDA, used Ontario Hydro money to make a "Peace University" in Costa Rica, was a good buddy of Jummy Hoffa who is till missing. He is an example fo the kind of Liberals leading Canada from the election of Pierre Trudeau to the departure of Jean Cretien. Evil stuff
Here is a neat Maurice Strong website. Its called hawkscafe:message:Tet-offensive Treason by Maurice Strong. The poster has listed his phone number so if you want to know all the details about Maurice, the man from heart of the federal Liberal party of Canada, and the UN, and the man who dreamed up the carbon tax just give the poster a phone call.
Here is another neat Paul Martin Story. Its called "Hussein invested one million dollars in Paul Martin owned Cordex". Its available at
www.Canadafreepress.com/2005 cover 042205 a.htm
The Canada Free Press has tons of Maurice Strong stuff. Remember this man is the heart and soul not only of Trudeau's Federal Liberal party but also the United Nations and he invented Global warming and the carbon tax. His good buddies like George Soros and Robert Schad are all anti-hunting and anti-gun nut bars.
Birds of a feather stick together.
Just another note about Canadian ex Prime Minister Paul Martin note. He is the guy who trashed the Canadian paras in Somalia after a first nations para (not a white para) killed a Somali thief.
These paras had an honourable record in WW2. Do you think a man who works hand in hand with the likes of Saddam Hussein and his relatives like Chemical Ali cares about a Somali thief?
Martin used the old Trudeau trick of associating with pop stars to try to boost his popularity with young voters. A PR firm hooked Trudeau up with a date with Barbara Streisand. Paul Martin hooked himself up with rock star and lounge lizard Bono to save Africa.
Do you think someone likie Martin who hooked up with Saddam Hussein and his torture chmabers actually gives a dam about anything other than money in his own pocket?
Note:
When I say Liberal and Conservative in Canada I don't mean political philosophy. I mean a collection of bad guys wearing black hats who have gathered under the Liberal banner and a collection of as yet untried but possibly good guys wearing white hats who need a majority to be given a chance to make headway against what was a genuinely evil Liberal cartel.
If you have read the above mentioned links to this post you will realize there is a good chance Maurice Strong, the man who was at the heart and soul of Trudeau's Power Corp based Federal Liberal Party and the man who was UN's long term guiding light, does not seem to want to return to either Canada or the USA.
It appears he could possibly face tough questioning and possibly even charges pertaining to the taking bribes from former dictator and mass murderer Saddam Hussein.
If Strong holds dual US and Canadian citizenships then he could possibly face treason charges in the USA which could mean the death penalty.
Maurice Strong is a good buddy of both anti-gunner George Soros and anti-hunter Robert Schad.
He is putting together a car company in China with Soros and he shared board positions at Ryerson University in Toronto with Robert Schad.
Birds of a feather stick together!
Here is an example - Punch in
www.yorku.ca/ycas/pdf/workbook/pdf and go to page 10.
Near the bottom you will see the name Robert Schad and five names later Maurice Strong as course advisors for some kind YORk U environmental bird course liked to CIDA and the UN?.
Whenever you punch is Schad and Strong or Soros and Strong their names pop up together all over the place.
Easy to trace who is in bed with who. They are all identified as $Billionaires and all are attacking either hunting or American gun ownership. None are American by birth.
Here is the link between David Suzuki an Robert Schad. I did not realize the CBC's David Suzuki at one time ran the Robert Schad Foundation nor did I know Suzuki was involved in shutting down Ontario's spring bear hunt. The link is
www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/1199tidbits5.htm
Here is an interesting blog about Suzuki.
The posters say Suzukis TV shows contain massive factual errors (he thinks the reaon there are no trees on the praire is because the farmers cut them all down - apparently said so on TV-can you believe that?) and one even says Suzuki has built a Saddam Hussein-like statue to himself on Quadra island.
Here is the link.
www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/004873.htmlLooks like the marines may have to topple another monument to a big ego but at least Quadra Island is alot closer than Bagdad.
Here is another link that shows Maurice Strong, business asociate of mass murderer Saddan Hussein, is also a director of the anti-hunting Humane Society of the United States and sits on the board of the David Suzuki Foundation.
The link is
www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Maurice_Strong-
Its important to know that Ex Canadian Pm Paul Martin's (some allege that he is Maurice Strong's half brother?) bag man is Gerry Schwartz.
Schwartz bought Robert Schad's Husky Injection Moulding. His wife Heather Reismann owns Chapters Book store Chain and Indigo Books. These book stores carry "Save The Bear" type books published by people who work for foundations financed by Schad. The whole thing goes round and round in a circle.
These plastic injection moulding machines, made since the fifties by Robert Schad, who in turn sold (for a $ Billion dollars) Husky Injection Moulding to Gerry Schwartz have probably facilitated more damage to planet earth than all the nuclear explosions ever made, and have likely wreaked more damage to the earth thatn WW2 by making billions of disposable bottles that have created a toxic plastic shield in the Pacific and other oceans.
Where was environmentalist David Suzuki when we needed him? Likely taking money from the Robert Schad Foundation.
Here is another good story showing former Canadian Prime Minister, businbess associate of mass murderer Saddam Hussein in an oil company called Cordex also tried to ban handguns to fight crime in Canada. The story is availabe at "Local Gun Enthusiast Vows He Won't Obey Handgun Ban at Canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/storyhtml?/saskatoonmstarphoenix/story.html...&K=81940
I think it is very clear from these posts that the federal Liberal Party of Canada is and has since the arrival of Pierre Trudeau has been a completely corrupt entity and that trying to save it is a huge mistake.
I think every patriotic Canadian owes it to his country to get rid of the Liberal Party forever in the next federal election. They have simply behaved too badly.
I also think each and ever civl servant and member of the RCMP who got a job during the Liberal days be scrutinized and if there is any hint whatsoever that any of them are card carrying members of the Liberal Party - that they be fired.
Its also clear that Canada's universities are producing crop after crop of junk scientists and that tenure be eliminated completely and bugets cuts in some cases by 100 % for some so called institutions of "higher learning."
There are lots of stories of multi cult BS going on in Canada. Such as the Somali warlord that runs extortion, smuggling,killing squads, terrorism, piracy, off Somalia and his wife is in Toronto pushing out babies on the expense of taxpayers. As soon as one baby pushes out she runs back to Somalia to get impregnated again then hussles her ass back to Toronto to push them out. She has four kids now and will head back to Somalia for the 5th soon to come within the year. How can crap like this go on and I have to wait 2 weeks for an xray??
Go figure isn't it wonderful in Canada.wtf.ca
WOW JB, that is an eye opener for sure.
Thanks
Dear Eric,
This is only the tip of the ice berg. Spend an afternoon on google and Yahoo some afternoon and start punching in �combinations of name such as Maurice Strong, Robert Schad, Gerry Schwartz, Paul Martin etc etc. You will soon see who is in bed with who (often literally in the case of these types).
The internet is taking away the control of information from those who once had absolute control of what you think, say and do.
This is a very good thing.
J. appreciate your info here. Wish there was some way of getting info like this to those who are stuck in the vacuum of political correctness and suffer the social engineering of gov't and news media. Your preaching to the converted here on this site, well at least the vast majority of members here.. We need to start with our children in grade school, they are indoctrinated into the slanted ideology being spewed by our education system starting in first grade and also childrens media entertainment. People are a product of their environment, that learning environment has been posioned with false propaganda for several generations resulting in the mess we're in today. The fact our children and those who teach them(a majority of educators and parents)are so ignorant of reality is sickening.
Maybe we should start by making sure our kids go vote.
Did everyone here do so?
Jburner,
Are you still a citizen of Canada ?
Lynn
Jburner -
I hesitated bringing this up - but your latest post - when taken alongside this one - makes me want to respond.
Words are powerful things - when we miss-use them we often do harm to the very causes we support - because we look unintelligent.
If we cry "wolf" all the time for imagined fears - when we have real ones - no one will listen.
To call Pierre Trudeau a "Communist" and a "Marxist" tells me that you like to throw around incendiary comments without thinking - or that you don't understand the true meaning of the words.
Pierre Trudeau was the people of Canada's DEMOCRATIC and ELECTED choice for Prime Minister. No legislation he passed was even remotely "Communist" or "Marxist" - by any stretch of the imagination.
In fact, he was a member of the Liberal Party of Canada - a very centrist party with the mild-socialist NDP further left than them - and the tiny (but always present) Communist Party of Canada and the Marxist-Lenninist Parties to the left of the NDP.
Now - make no mistake. I detested Pierre Trudeau - and much of his legislation - but I recognize that he was the "people's choice" - in our democratic system. And - in a democracy - sometimes the people we want to win - don't.
Now - in your newest post - you are calling the men who patrol Canada's biggest city's streets - on our behalf - "fascists". Calling our policemen that - for enforcing a Canadian law that they are bound to up-hold - Is WAY WAY over the line. It tells me you probably don't really understand the meaning of the word "facist" either.
Bitch, whine and complain all you want.
But leave the hyperbole behind.
Someday, we may need to talk about REAL Communists, Marxists and Fascists - perhaps even REAL threats to Canada's democratic system of government.
But - people might not listen - because people like you have so mis-used the words in posts in the past - that when we need to use them to get people's attention - no one will listen.
Good day,
Dear Brian,
Organizations like the Toronto Star have spent decades defining Trudeau in the public eye as being something he was not.
The man whom people elected was not the Man Canadians thought he was.
The guy who spent more time trying to define Trudeau as a good guy was Richard Gwynn at the Toronto Star. He also write the book "Norhtern Magus" which is such a bunch of gushing clap trap it is embarassing to read.
H eis the same guy who just tried to define Paul Matin's days at the PMs office as "heady" because he hung around with a lounge lizard named Bono as if this is supposed to be important.
The CBc was just as big a booster of Trudeau as the Star was.
My information is dead accurate.
Pay no attention to what Liberals say. Only watch the patterns. Birds of a feather stick together.
Otherwise think whatever you want to think.
Llyn- Yes still a citizne of Canada and no other place!
Dear Bushrat,
There is tons of information in American publications and web sites and a few in Canada.
The CBC provided cover for Trudeau for years and years. They were even hauled into court over this because they exhibited such favoritism.
I have a friend who worked for W5 the CTV program. Not even sure if its still on the air. He said that when the CBC was first formed its upper ecehlon was entirely staffed by "socialists" from England. They used Canadianfront men on camera. They same was true of the national film board. The first guy to run it was John Grierson who was a hard core Glascow communist. He ranNFB and hired the peole who worked their laters. Birdsof a feather stick together.
These people came out of the 1930s British "intellectual" environment that also produced a great many commie spies at Cambridge University. You will remmeber names like Kim Philby and Donald Blunt.
I believe I read but cannot now confirm it that Mike Pearson was at Cambridge at exactly the same time. I could be worng on this. I have a good memory but it is short.
These British "socialist" in the CBC defined who we would ike and dislike according to the spin they put on the story. Trudeau, like Obama bin Biden, was the chosen son.
I'd look up and post alot more if I had the time. Its all out there but I don't even have the time to spend on these things. I just keep hoping the light bulb will go on in Canada. It might now that the internet is in place.
I think the single most important item to post, and I don't have a copy or I would, is the Wall Street journal article, mentioned above that lists individuals nation by nation (including Canada) who wereer on the take accepting bribes from mass murder Saddam Hussein. These people are the heart and soul of the Liberal Party of Canada.
From that article on everything else starts to unravel for them. The Trudeau Liberals are very evil people.
This information only came to light when American troops over ran Saddam Hussein's private office and seized his personal showing who he paid bribes to.
I don't know who was in power in Canada when the Iraq war started but if it was the Liberals they had a vested interest in having Saddam Hussein win. H didn't and now their dirty laundry is there for all to see on the pages of the Wall Street Journal.
That may be why the party in power at the time (if it was the Liberals) din't wantCanadians in Iraq.
They didn't want soldiers in Iraq because they didn't see the proof of WMD's same as France. I remember that issue clearly.
Could be. I just can't remember who was in power at the time.
![[Linked Image]](http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr296/378Canuck/muz2.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr296/378Canuck/muz3.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr296/378Canuck/muz4.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr296/378Canuck/muz6.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr296/378Canuck/muzzy1.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr296/378Canuck/muz8.jpg)