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So, I've always had Labrador retrievers (English Labs, not those high strung field trial stock dogs) even though I don't duck hunt. I'd like to try something different.
I'm thinking of getting an English Setter mainly for a family dog, house dog, and woods walking companion. Can any of you with experience with English setters tell me if this will be a good idea or not?
I have had a couple of Llewellin Setters from puppyhood thru old age (16). They are the best family/house dog by far of the pointing breeds in my experience. Very calm and well mannered indoors, good with children, other pets and smart. Can't imagine having one and not hunting it though.
The Ryman line of setters were bred to be companion as well as hunting dogs. The line started not far from me here in NE PA, but there are a few breeders in other places. AFAIK there are 3 lines of english setters. I'm sure some others will chime in. Mine is from DeCoverly Kennels in NE PA. I've always had goldens but decided to try another breed when one of mine died. He's got a great nose and is a good hunter. One downside is that they maybe don't last long hunting in warm weather but that also depends on conditioning and the size of the dog. As you can see I work mine hard.
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I've never know an aggressive setter. Never known one to bite someone. Most of the ones I have had have not been real bright. Most of the setters I have know have not been real bright. They have all been excellent house and family dogs. They have all had odd quirks. They have all been out of a rather specialized line though.

The one I have now is the brightest dog I have ever had. She never makes the same mistake twice.
Originally Posted by MikeS
Very calm and well mannered indoors, good with children, other pets and smart. Can't imagine having one and not hunting it though.

To say the least...
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Originally Posted by Dogslife57
One downside is that they maybe don't last long hunting in warm weather but that also depends on conditioning and the size of the dog.

Mine gets clipped pretty short right before bird season opens on 9/1, but a couple hours is still about the most she can take early in the season.
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If I didn't, it would be less as she gets pretty fuzzy when grown out.
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Originally Posted by Dogslife57
The Ryman line of setters were bred to be companion as well as hunting dogs. The line started not far from me here in NE PA, but there are a few breeders in other places. AFAIK there are 3 lines of english setters. I'm sure some others will chime in. Mine is from DeCoverly Kennels in NE PA. I've always had goldens but decided to try another breed when one of mine died. He's got a great nose and is a good hunter. One downside is that they maybe don't last long hunting in warm weather but that also depends on conditioning and the size of the dog. As you can see I work mine hard.
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What are their names, Suffering and Abused?? grin grin
Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
Originally Posted by Dogslife57
One downside is that they maybe don't last long hunting in warm weather but that also depends on conditioning and the size of the dog.

Mine gets clipped pretty short right before bird season opens on 9/1, but a couple hours is still about the most she can take early in the season.
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If I didn't, it would be less as she gets pretty fuzzy when grown out.
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I know that look. laugh

Llewellins tend to be very affectionate. The pure English not so much, that's why LLewellin bred his strain carefully. He wanted dogs that had a more innate affection and connection toward their masters.

I like all the setter breeds for a House/Hunting combination dog.
There's not enough wild birds left here in eastern N.C for me to really concern myself with hunting them. I usually hunt pen-raised quail when I do go. I just need a woods-walking buddy and family pet. Perhaps even a hunting reject would suffice.
And I need something smaller and easier to toss in the truck than a Lab.
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I know that look. laugh

As well you should! wink
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by Dogslife57
The Ryman line of setters were bred to be companion as well as hunting dogs. The line started not far from me here in NE PA, but there are a few breeders in other places. AFAIK there are 3 lines of english setters. I'm sure some others will chime in. Mine is from DeCoverly Kennels in NE PA. I've always had goldens but decided to try another breed when one of mine died. He's got a great nose and is a good hunter. One downside is that they maybe don't last long hunting in warm weather but that also depends on conditioning and the size of the dog. As you can see I work mine hard.
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What are their names, Suffering and Abused?? grin grin



I'm just lucky they let me live with them!!
Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
Originally Posted by Dogslife57
One downside is that they maybe don't last long hunting in warm weather but that also depends on conditioning and the size of the dog.

Mine gets clipped pretty short right before bird season opens on 9/1, but a couple hours is still about the most she can take early in the season.
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If I didn't, it would be less as she gets pretty fuzzy when grown out.
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Is she from Bruce's litter? If so I've got her sister.
Originally Posted by Triggernosis
So, I've always had Labrador retrievers (English Labs, not those high strung field trial stock dogs) even though I don't duck hunt. I'd like to try something different.
I'm thinking of getting an English Setter mainly for a family dog, house dog, and woods walking companion. Can any of you with experience with English setters tell me if this will be a good idea or not?
Get one for those reasons, you won't regret it. "Lucy" was the easiest-to-raise dog I've had in my life. And a soft mouth, never chewed.

If I out-live her I'll get another. Unfortunately, not for hunting this time. Love them Labs, though. But they chew!
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Is she from Bruce's litter? If so I've got her sister.

Yes sir. Hard to believe they're 5 already.
The 3 I have owned come from big time field trialers, a mix of Tekoa Mountain Sunrise and Hicks Rising Sun depending on the dog, and they like to work.

My first one was big and strong, she was force fetched and wanted to run.

My current older one (middle dog) would rather walk\run around my yard all day everyday than come sit in the house. She is nonstop, even at 8 years old.

The youngest one is a firecracker, she will be the same I'm guessing, with even more of a free spirit.

They all have been gentle, well tempered and smart. They are English dogs though, and don't want to be a hip companion, mine would rather be doing their own thing and check in from time to time.

Polar opposite of the German dogs who want their muzzle in your pocket anytime they can get it in there.

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Best dog I ever had, hands down , was an English setter. She got me into more girls, more birds, more social things, did I say women? I found hard core dog haters reconsidered their feelings about dogs after meeting her.
Originally Posted by Triggernosis
There's not enough wild birds left here in eastern N.C for me to really concern myself with hunting them.


Amen to that. I quit when my last dog died in '97. Before that, Dad had setters. Great dogs for hunt and home, although one we had didn't care for infant children. Ours ranged a little too far for the thick stuff we had to hunt, so I got a German Shorthair when I got my own dog. Just in time for the quail population crash. I miss bird hunting badly. I mean, I badly miss bird hunting.
I English setter. Great Companion and hunting dog. I live in Northern South Dakota. The dog doesn't mind being outside in sub zero weather and we keep our dogs in the house, partially due to coyotes, mountain lions etc. The setter likes to lay with his head on my foot when I'm sitting in a chair. He sleeps as close to our bed as he can. He's a very gentle dog.

The issue with English Setters seems to be the same as with my last dog which was a Golden Lab. Their family tree is sometimes to narrow and thus have certain health issues.

My setter has arthritis. He falls down when going down steep grades (can't handle stairs in the house). He's such a happy dog. He's 9 years old. He loves to hunt, but I worry about him pushing himself too much during the hunt.

My Golden Lab broke my heart when we had to put her down. I don't know when/how etc. I can handle this again.

Great dogs. My first big male Buster was a tri- color and was gg grandson of the Performer + Sandhill Becky. Great dog and pet. He lived to be 15. His running mate was Dixie Belle she lived to 13.

My two setters are both female. One is 5, Scarlett and the other is Bleu Belle, she's 1. They both will out last me. Very active outdoors but couch potatoes inside. My wife said I bought a stated BD and ended up with a finished lap dog. Hasbeen
Wonderful disposition and one of better indoor hunting dogs.


Trouble finding a breeder with good trouble free lines
I own two, a 6 year old male, and a 2 year old female. Both are out of cover dog lines. Both are very affectionate, and have been great with my children and others. My male did not settle down in the house until 3 years of age. They are now calm in the house, but still intense hunters. They both shed quite a bit. Like any dog, the specific parents are more important than the breed. I have heard of problems in a couple of dogs. Of course, any dog can bite given the wrong circumstances.
There used to be a show with a setter called "Hunting with Hank" with Des ????? Anyway as Des always said at the end of the show (as Hank laid on the bed) "Never, ever spoil your birdog"
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They can be excellent family dogs. Why not adopt one. There are a lot of ones that are turned away by field trialers and such that would make great pets and hunters.

http://www.englishsetterrescue.org/

http://esrescue.org/

I've had 3. As stated earlier, they will range. You will not be able to just open the door and let them run about or you will not see them for days if ever. Mine come out of tomoka/rising sun as well. They will hunt hard and are the most beautiful bird dog to watch work in all the world. The last couple I had had health issues. Lost one at less than 4 with kidney failure. The current one is 8 and has an auto immune disease. All have been great house dogs, but will run for hours nonstop in the fenced yard.

The old girl can hardly move anymore,but still loves to hunt. Here she is finding a dead bird.

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14 year old Grace best bird dog I ever had.
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14 month old Willow and 14 year old Grace doing their thing
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Lost Willow way too young less than 4.
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Puppy Maggie enjoying the fire.
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10 week old Maggie on point
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Maggie goes everywhere with me except work
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Hunting hard on a sub zero day.
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