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Hey guys. Let's show off some of our winchester rifles. I've got a couple of pre 64 model 70's that I am particualarly proud of and a newhaven that shoots lights out (the darndest thing). I'll post some pics of my rifles and how each one shoots. I'm hoping to use one of them in a week for deer season. Let's start this off with some of my pre 64's:

Std weight model 70 30-06 made in 1951:
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I ran across this rifle by word of mouth. I had been looking for one of these in just the right condition and my wifes uncle found it for me. I got it for a song and sold the original stock (with metal butt plate), the original peepsights, vintage redfield scope that came with the rifle and now I am into the rifle as it sits for $140.00 grin
I left the one piece redfield mount on it and kept the cool redfield rings that have the screws on the bottom for a sleek look. I pillar bedded it, freefloated the barrel and made the forend screw non functional (dummy screw) and It shoots like this just incase you were wondering:
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This is my most recent pre 64 model 70 purchase. It is a 30-06 fwt and was made in september of 1956. It has been glass bedded in the recoil lug area for right now. It weighs 8 pounds "all up" and is a joy to carry. The pointability is just about perfect for me:
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I recently put a leupold vx3 3.5-10x40 on it and it looks like it is going to be a great shooter too, once I work up a good load for it:
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I recently shot some nice groups with it using some 180 partitons and H4350 powder.

The newest addition to the family is a rifle I've wanted for the longet time and much thought went into this one. It is an extreme weather model 70 made at the new FN plant in Columbia SC. They are putting out some great products. This extreme weather has a mcmillan compact edge stock, Leupold VX 3 3.5-10x40 with CDS in talley lightweight lows. It is quickly becoming one of my favorite rifles. It weighs a little over 7.5 pounds all up and shows some promise for accuracy. I'll work up some good loads after seasnon:
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My FN PBR XP 300 wsm is one I particularly like. It just shoots great and adds confidence. I have also bedded this one and it did a 180 in terms of accuracy afterwards:
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10 shots at 160 yards.

FN made winchester model 70 fwt 308win. I haven't done anything to this rifle except for adjust the moa trigger and work up some loads for it. It has a cheap bushnell elite 3200 3-9x40 on it but it seems to be a pretty good scope so far blush:
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Here's my Newhaven 30-06 that I put in a factory synthetic that I spent way too much time bedding. But hey it shoots now grinIt wears a bushnell elite 4200 2.5-10x40 scope:
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Not flimsy anymore grin

Here's a pre 64 model 100 (308 win) that has really grown on me:
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Put a burris FFII 3-9x40 with ballistic plex reticle on it and it shoots alright:
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Trust me, it doesn't shoot like this all the time blush
First year production South Carolina 7/08 Featherweight:

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1938 vintage .270 standard in a McMillan pre-64 Monte Carlo pattern stock, GAP camo. I don't own either anymore, but that was a sweet setup.

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Last year production New Haven 300 WSM standard rifle, in a McMillan compact pattern stock, 'swirl pattern 60/40 light blue, white.

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New Haven Model 70 Classic Super Express .375 H&H with a Leupold M8 3x. Dream setup if you like the .375 H&H.

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1958 Featherweight 30-06 with a Leupold 1-4x.

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1947 Transition 30-06 with an old Weaver K3:

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You've got a nice collection oregon45. I'm always comenting on how much I like your blue 300 wsm but I think that 375 might have it whipped grin
The .375 was nice; I got it just to see what the fuss was about and ended up selling it because I've got a 9.3x62 that is lighter and does the same job. It was a soft-shooting rifle, though, even with full out 300gr loads.
That 100 can shoot!!

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1 shot group with my pre-64 70 in 264 mag. grin
Nobody said they HAD to be pre-64 70's.

This is mine.

It has a custom stock on it. It's in .338 Win Mag. It came to me from a very good friend, Crowmagnum. I got the gun with the original box and all paperwork. The original stock that is also mint unused. Dies, brass, bullets and a slew of factory and relaoded ammo. It is one of the better gun deals I've made plus the rifle has real meaning to me.

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1 shot group with my pre-64 70 in 264 mag. grin



Nice! The best kind of "group" going.
have a few model 70's,a 30-06 made in 1941 that has a custom cherry stock on it,it used to belong to Roe Clark the old savage historian, a 1964 model 70 my father bought new ,and a custom model 70 featherweight in 358 winchester, Griffin & Howe stock and scopemount with a lyman peep also. Don
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That 100 can shoot!!

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Yes, it surprises the hell out of me. It even thru me for a loop the other day when I ran it's pet load across the chronograph too. Seems it has one hell of a fast barrel on it. I'm pretty happy with it to say the least grin
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1 shot group with my pre-64 70 in 264 mag. grin


Nice buck kenster. I'll post my one shot group in a little over a week wink
Not much of a photographer but here is my Model 70. It's standard grade .243 which I understand is somewhat odd. Bought new by a very close friend who used it for deer and groundhogs. It still wears a Leupold k-10 and shoots VERY tight groups!

All is correct except the butt plate is aluminum. I have read that this should be steel and the aluminum ones where only used on featherweight models. The collectors I have shown it to say that either would have been used during production. Any additional thoughts from collectors appreciated. BTW previous owner states rifle was never shopped for any reason and is now how it was purchased new.

Stock shows some minor marks (nothing deep) from use and the varnish is gone in many areas. Metal finish is still very good. I have struggled recently with refinishing the stock.

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Not much of a photographer but here is my Model 70. It's standard grade .243 which I understand is somewhat odd. Bought new by a very close friend who used it for deer and groundhogs. It still wears a Leupold k-10 and shoots VERY tight groups!

All is correct except the butt plate is aluminum. I have read that this should be steel and the aluminum ones where only used on featherweight models. The collectors I have shown it to say that either would have been used during production. Any additional thoughts from collectors appreciated. BTW previous owner states rifle was never shopped for any reason and is now how it was purchased new.

Stock shows some minor marks (nothing deep) from use and the varnish is gone in many areas. Metal finish is still very good. I have struggled recently with refinishing the stock.

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Thanks for sharing, that is a neat little rifle.
Pair of .257 Roberts. One Standard and one Super Grade.

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Here are a few of mine that I happen to have pictures of on my computer

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Transition .375 special order without a rear sight.
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257 Super Grade
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.22 Hornet, I just love the little round on this big action!
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Transition 250/3000 Special order Super Grade Carbine.
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30/06 target model FYI this one is for sale
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A 358 that someone in the past bored out to 350 Rem Mag and did a lot of action work to get the round to work andthen put it in a nice looking stock. FYI this one is for sale
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Ultra Grade Featherweight in .270
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Random shot of a couple rifles including a couple M70's. The bottom one is a 300H&H, third from the bottom is not technically a M70 but an FN A3G which is a M70 action, and the second from the top is a New Haven Stainless Featherweight in 308 with a BOSS system on it. The 308 and 300 a 300 are my main hunting rifles.
A tweaked 1939 vintage 270 Win.

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And a tweaked 1954 358 Win.

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Some of the rat pack....

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Heres my Griffin & Howe model 70 featherweight in 358.win caliber,

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Wow - some super nice M70's have been posted. I have been very impressed smile
That G&H 358 would be a lot happier living here in Maine!
No it wont i got it out of Maine !!!!!! grin Don
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No it wont i got it out of Maine !!!!!! grin Don


And it looks Homesick!!
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Here are a few of mine that I happen to have pictures of on my computer

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Transition .375 special order without a rear sight.
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257 Super Grade
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.22 Hornet, I just love the little round on this big action!
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Transition 250/3000 Special order Super Grade Carbine.
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30/06 target model FYI this one is for sale
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A 358 that someone in the past bored out to 350 Rem Mag and did a lot of action work to get the round to work andthen put it in a nice looking stock. FYI this one is for sale
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Ultra Grade Featherweight in .270
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Random shot of a couple rifles including a couple M70's. The bottom one is a 300H&H, third from the bottom is not technically a M70 but an FN A3G which is a M70 action, and the second from the top is a New Haven Stainless Featherweight in 308 with a BOSS system on it. The 308 and 300 a 300 are my main hunting rifles.


You've got some damn fine taste my friend. I bet that fn a3g shoots lights out all day long. Very nice!!!
Mighty fine looking winchesters you guys have.
Might as well play. Nothing special like some of the above. However, they're all solid shooters:

Classic Sporter .30-06 in McMillan Edge.

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Started life as a FWT 7mm-08 and turned into a .308W with Bartlein barrel. Scary accurate.

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pre64 FWT (57 or 58) .308W

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Mod 70 Winlight .300WM that ended up with a #4Hart in .300WM.

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Dad pre war .30-06 that was BTH, so I had it redone by a guy that knows how.

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Very nice collection Battue. I really like that pre 64 308 fwt in the mcswirly stock.
Not Model 70s, but I'll throw them in.

Old nickle steel Mod 12 16ga that still works when asked.

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Model 59 12ga. that a friend sold me. Way ahead of its time.

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Grandads 94 .32WS.

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Winchester superX model 1: Perhaps the best made auto until recently.

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Finally one that is often overlooked and was just as good as the original. In fact parts were interchangeable with fitting.

Parker Reproduction by "Winchester"

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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Very nice collection Battue. I really like that pre 64 308 fwt in the mcswirly stock.


Thank you. I have the original stocks that went with them and it now wears a different hat. The new Leupold 3x.

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Is a home-made cobble job push feed in 7x57 permissable here????? blush

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Is a home-made cobble job push feed in 7x57 permissable here????? blush

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Oh, heck yes!! One of these days I'm going to get me one just to try it out. That way you guys don't accuse me of being too partial to the CRF rifles. blush Very nice rifle
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Is a home-made cobble job push feed in 7x57 permissable here????? blush

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That's a purdy one!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks gents...heres another one just for you LBK, as I know you love those whitetails... grin

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Pair of .300 Win. Mags


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Alaskan .338 Win. Mag.
Westerner .264 Win. Mag.


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Misc. M70's.

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Boxed set


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Pre-War .22 Hornet


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Custom stocked transition special order .300 HH sightless, stainless barrel.


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Thanks gents...heres another one just for you LBK, as I know you love those whitetails... grin

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I feel like an outcast. Most of my bucks are dinks compared to either of those. Shouldn't there bae a lever on the bottom of that rifle?? grin grin grin
The deer rifle with the lever on the bottom was a Model 64.... grin
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Misc. M70's.

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I was wondering when you'd start showing off your collection. Hey the redfield one piece mount and rings are working great on my fwt. Thanks again my friend.
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Is a home-made cobble job push feed in 7x57 permissable here????? blush

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Scrolling down looking at rifle porn and I see 7x57, without even looking I knew who it had to be...... and I'm impressed. That is one very nice rifle.


I think I should avoid this thread and this forum, all these winnies are making me jealous.
Beautiful rifles, all !!!

My pair of 70's don't add up to 1/2 of a collector's rifle. Only one I have a picture on the 'puter of is a Classic Stainless 7-STW. The other's a '84 or '85 XTR Sporter .300 Winnie.

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Always shown but she can come in the Winchester forum too:

NH Safari Express, 375 HH

Complete set-up w/ scope, wood in oil fnish (I don't like varnish ... the european touch).

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Iron sights adaptations

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Low mount QD docter reflex sight for driven hunts

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She successfully hunts and hunted: european wild boar, red does, roe deers (bucks, does and little yearlings too), foxes, feral cat, kudu, oryx, wildebeest, hartebeests, zebra and warthog. You can hunt anyhting you want with such a rifle.
1948 Model 70 Transition .270 with Stith setup. http://photobucket.com/sqweeler i5
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1948 Model 70 Transition .270 with Stith setup. http://photobucket.com/sqweeler i5


Good looking rifle.
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Gorgeous rifle..


Here's a sample of one of mine (shown before on another forum) Custom Shop M70 in .358STA.. One of only 90 made..

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Here's a M70 Ultimate Classic in 6.5X55... Doubt there's more than a handful of these made, but I don't have actual numbers.

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Here's some of my pre 64's (sorry about the bad pic)
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L to R
late 40 30.06'std.
mid 50 .270 fwt
late 50 300 H&H S.G
late 30/goudy 7x57
mid 50/custom .270 fwt
mid 50/280 AI fwt/edge
mid 50/30'06 fwt/edge
early 50/300 H&H/legend
Then the best collection of all, the kids and their fwts.

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You guys are making me jealous!

My oldest, an NH .300 Winchester Mag Classic Stainless, in a Supergrade McSwirley:

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Newest, Sporter in .300 RUM:

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Strangely, no pics of my others, a Coyote in 7 WSM and an Extreme Weather in .300 WSM. If I could just break my addiction to cheap 700 project rifles, I could get a few more M70s. I'm looking for a Sporter in .264 currently.
My 1st Model 70 is on its way to my FFL
I hope that better pictures will follow its receipt by me.

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My 1st Model 70 is on its way to my FFL
I hope that better pictures will follow its receipt by me.

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Very nice rifle. Looks like a late model pre 64 (guessing 1962) fwt. Very nice.... What cartridge is it chambered for???
I got a few, but never owned a pre-64 or push feed model.

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300 RUM:

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358 Norma:

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1958/9 .270 Featherweight

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Originally Posted by Bushmaster1313
My 1st Model 70 is on its way to my FFL
I hope that better pictures will follow its receipt by me.

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Very nice rifle. Looks like a late model pre 64 (guessing 1962) fwt. Very nice.... What cartridge is it chambered for???
I will post some others later but here is my pre-64, mfg 1961 model 70 fwt in .270 Winchester.

This rifle belonged to my cousin who was a D1 athlete, Vietnam war hero, and just plain great guy. He passed away a week before a pronghorn we were planning back in the mid 80's. My uncle knew I always admired the rifle and gave it to me a couple of years ago. He was a WWII vet himself and just passed away last year.

from a collectors point of view I committed a no no because I did refinish the rifle. It was in no great shape and had some things not quite correct about it but she is back to the condition she deserves to be in now.

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So what if it ain't original...you have one of the finest made-to-hunt rifles on the planet with the memories of loved ones to go with it wherever you hunt.....


This is my 270WSM fwt I bought in the first year of production. I replaced the plastic grip cap with a steel super grade cap, and trigger guard assy with a steel guard. Just seemed right to do and the added weight I couldn't even tell. I have shot many a whitetail and proghorns with this rifle. Topped with a Zeiss Conquest 4X16 I think.
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This is my 300WSM in a Bell & Carlson Medalist stock with Freedom Tan patter. The rifle is topped with a Nikon Monarch in 4X16 I think. I added a target turret for elevation and had a Kenton Industries dial made for my load.
I have taken mule deer, whitetail, elk, and bear with this rifle.

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So what if it ain't original...you have one of the finest made-to-hunt rifles on the planet with the memories of loved ones to go with it wherever you hunt.....




+1, I totally agree.
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This is my 270WSM fwt I bought in the first year of production. I replaced the plastic grip cap with a steel super grade cap, and trigger guard assy with a steel guard. Just seemed right to do and the added weight I couldn't even tell. I have shot many a whitetail and proghorns with this rifle. Topped with a Zeiss Conquest 4X16 I think.
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This is my 300WSM in a Bell & Carlson Medalist stock with Freedom Tan patter. The rifle is topped with a Nikon Monarch in 4X16 I think. I added a target turret for elevation and had a Kenton Industries dial made for my load.
I have taken mule deer, whitetail, elk, and bear with this rifle.

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You have good taste. Nice rifles....
Thanks bsa1917hunter,

I have always been a model 70 fan. From the first stories I read as a kid from O'conner I had to have one.

If I'm in the field hunting big game you can bet money I have a model 70 in my hands.
Speaking of Jack.1947 .270 with Kollmorgen/Stith Bearcub 2 http://photobucket.com/sqweeler i5
Do they have to be pre-64's to get some face time if not I will post my pictures.
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Thanks bsa1917hunter,

I have always been a model 70 fan. From the first stories I read as a kid from O'conner I had to have one.

If I'm in the field hunting big game you can bet money I have a model 70 in my hands.


I hear that. I always wanted one too because of JOC and others even Jim Zumbo and Charmichael planted the bug. However I could never afford one until I got older. I always packed the "poor man's" model 70 (sporterized m1917) and was content with it until I got my first pre 64 blush. I am very impressed with the new winchester model 70's too. Even the one Newhaven model 70 30-06 impresses the hell out of me with how consistently accurate it is. They are great and always work, alot to be said about that..... One of my favorite videos:

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On a bench...

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Or in the field;

257 Roberts Circa 1953...

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270 Win. Circa 1949...

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22 Hornet Pre-War Circa 1941...

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Is this a glitch in the system, or is your buddy just camera shy?
Actually, that is my son back there with the buck he shot, same morning only about 50 yards apart.
I saw that too, thought it was pretty cool.
My Alaskan .338. 1958.
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On the job, quite some time ago.
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BLKTL53, My understanding is the .338 was introduced in 1958 and first produced in 1959. I have one that is 459XXX. Perhaps I'm mistaken.
Pete
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BLKTL53, My understanding is the .338 was introduced in 1958 and first produced in 1959. I have one that is 459XXX. Perhaps I'm mistaken.
Pete


454XXX... Win manufacturing dates sez 1958, when I looked it up.
I, or they could be wrong too. Doesn't matter to me, though.

Mine was bought from the original owner, a gun dealer in our city that kept the first .338 that came to him.
Hey pak,

Looky what I just found out.....

"The year of manufacture for serial number 454XXX is 1959."

Good call. Guess I'd better ask for my money back! LOL

Per: http://oldguns.net/sn_php/winmods.htm
Blacktail, I'm with you. I've used mine on moose, brownies and sitka blacktails. Although I'm pondering letting this rifle go for something less powerful. I'm getting to the age that I would rather shoot a lighter recoiling cartridge and I don't keep guns I don't use.
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I bought mine for hunting elk and it's worked wonderfully for that purpose.

In the 90's I made up my Sako .358 and in 2000, I started archery hunting. The Alaskan hasn't been used since.

Although I kill an elk almost every year ( damage permits ) I just use the .358 or my .270 and they do just fine.

Look underneath the barrel forward the recoil lug.
I've owned over a few pre-64 M70's over the years and have owned a few post-64's plus a few custom rifles built on M70 actions. I've much preferred vintage lever rifles. However, I recall a few years back - five or so - spotting some Winchester custom shop M70's for sale. I vaguely recall one in .35 Whelan and I think with an octagon barrel. As these were Winchester made rifles new in the box, I recall I did make an inquiry about them - and they were long gone. Ring a bell with anyone?
Slightly off topic, but did one of you guys win the beater
300H&H on GB today?
I have a few, but right now I'd like to show you my deer rifle. It is a Model 70 Classic in 280 Remington. To me, it is the perfect deer rifle.
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I have a few, but right now I'd like to show you my deer rifle. It is a Model 70 Classic in 280 Remington. To me, it is the perfect deer rifle.
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Very nice, sighted in for some super long range shooting I see. blush
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I have a few, but right now I'd like to show you my deer rifle. It is a Model 70 Classic in 280 Remington. To me, it is the perfect deer rifle.
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Very nice, sighted in for some super long range shooting I see. blush

I can hold in the middle of the chest on a whitetail for a pretty long way.
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I have a few, but right now I'd like to show you my deer rifle. It is a Model 70 Classic in 280 Remington. To me, it is the perfect deer rifle.
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Very nice, sighted in for some super long range shooting I see. blush

I can hold in the middle of the chest on a whitetail for a pretty long way.


I bet... That's a very nice rifle and looks to be set up just about as perfectly as can be. Some don't like the one piece redfield/leupold base but who gives a chit....
Sweet unit, sir... smile
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They made them in a LH model for a year or two.
338WM came in a nice walnut stock, got restocked in a McMillan

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Here are a couple of new ones one is a 308 AW in and the other is AW 270 in a McMillan edge. I will have to add my 06 FW.

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VERY NICE! 30/06 I assume?
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VERY NICE! 30/06 I assume?
Yep, the only cal. available on that low number.
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VERY NICE! 30/06 I assume?
Yep, the only cal. available on that low number.


Pretty much what I figured. I used to own #1534 and it was also a 30/06. I like the "square" floorplate release button on these real early ones much better than the later ones.
Cartod,

Beautiful Model 70!!! I have your gun's older cousin by about 180 guns in 30-06.

I stumbled into mine a couple of years ago in a pawnshop sitting barrel down in an overcrowded open gunsafe. I noticed it was a pre 64 70 with an old hard rotted slip on rubber pad and I asked to see it. I saw that it was a pre war 30-06 and my interest waned slightly as I didn't really care for pre war safetys and wasn't really in the market for a 30-06. Then I turned it over, saw the serial # and just about passed out... had butterflies in my stomach like when I was a little kid. Next I looked at the price, ripped the old rotten pad off to make sure the buttplate was there, and purchased that rifle as fast as I could.... I think I would have sold one of my kids into slavery if I'd had to in order to secure that rifle!!!!

I love to pull it out and just look at it. I tried to find out who pawned the rifle just to call them and ask them some questions about its history and how it ended up where it did... if only it could talk! The pawn shop wouldn't give me the information.

Do you shoot yours? I have not as of yet.

Lundtroller
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Cartod,

Beautiful Model 70!!! I have your gun's older cousin by about 180 guns in 30-06.

I stumbled into mine a couple of years ago in a pawnshop sitting barrel down in an overcrowded open gunsafe. I noticed it was a pre 64 70 with an old hard rotted slip on rubber pad and I asked to see it. I saw that it was a pre war 30-06 and my interest waned slightly as I didn't really care for pre war safetys and wasn't really in the market for a 30-06. Then I turned it over, saw the serial # and just about passed out... had butterflies in my stomach like when I was a little kid. Next I looked at the price, ripped the old rotten pad off to make sure the buttplate was there, and purchased that rifle as fast as I could.... I think I would have sold one of my kids into slavery if I'd had to in order to secure that rifle!!!!

I love to pull it out and just look at it. I tried to find out who pawned the rifle just to call them and ask them some questions about its history and how it ended up where it did... if only it could talk! The pawn shop wouldn't give me the information.

Do you shoot yours? I have not as of yet.

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I cant bring myself to take it out, but I think it needs to go hunting again. It has been really well kept but did have one hole drilled in rear bridge for lyman alaskan....:(
Bought this one in the early 80's, it's in 270, fluted bolt, metal coated by Walter Birdsong, and factory Featherweight stock painted by Rick Bin. Wears a Leupy Vari-X III 3.5x10x40.

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My last remaining pre 64, a .243 FW built in 1963, about two weeks before the end of making "real Winchesters."

Unfired and could be bought.

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I thought all the "REAL WINCHESTERS" had levers !!!!! grin grin Don
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I thought all the "REAL WINCHESTERS" had levers !!!!! grin grin Don


Don -

Don't worry - I don't think this new-fangled development called, "bolt actions" will catch on wink
Real old winchesters had levers.
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I thought all the "REAL WINCHESTERS" had levers !!!!! grin grin Don


Ya might be on to something there....
Here is one of mine
Its a very early Classic Supergrade with the 24 inch barrel in .300 Winnie.

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Just back from hunting with this one, pre 64 (1955) in 280, Edge compact stock, fwt bottom metal, talleys and leupold 3.5x10. Shoots 139 hornady flat base into .8 (3 shots). Weighs 7lb 1 ounce empty, without sling. Pretty nice hunting rig, for me at least. Also have a pre 64 fwt in 30-06 in the original stock, it stayed home this time!
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Just back from hunting with this one, pre 64 (1955) in 280, Edge compact stock, fwt bottom metal, talleys and leupold 3.5x10. Shoots 139 hornady flat base into .8 (3 shots). Weighs 7lb 1 ounce empty, without sling. Pretty nice hunting rig, for me at least. Also have a pre 64 fwt in 30-06 in the original stock, it stayed home this time!


Very nice, doesn't get much better than that.....
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Misc. M70's.

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Has this been refinished?
Looks great
Not refinished, well maintained and not used much. It would be near mint if it were not for the rear bridge.
I was able to find two acorns not already squirreled away by all of you Model 70 hoarders:

The 1959 .270 Model 70 FWT is a little rougher than I would have thought from the Gunbroker photos - but still plenty nice.

The scratches, dents and worn varnish is a dead giveaway that the first owner thought this was a hunting rifle.



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As to this next one, I'm not sure if it's a keeper.
The wood is not nearly as nice as the .270 FWT.
Just look at the knot in the stock.
It will be heavier to lug around.
Worse, it was made in the 1940's before CNC manufacturing, machine checkering and epoxy dip finishes.
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That .270 fwt has some nice grain in the wood, how dare someone take it into the woods!
You don't think the first owner used this to kill animals. How shocking.
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You don't think the first owner used this to kill animals. How shocking.
Perish the thought!
They are designed to be fielded and hunted. grin
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They are designed to be fielded and hunted. grin


Kill Bambi's daddy?
Here is my new SS FW in 308-
Shoots bug holes - it's even up for sale...

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Here is my new SS FW in 308-
Shoots bug holes - it's even up for sale...

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Why? and how much???? Didn't see it in the classifieds. Let us know. Nice rifle....
Here's my 1951 22 Hornet that was rechambered to 222 Rem and had a Pachmayr pad added like many in the '50s.

I just found the correct period Redfield base and mounted my 440 Weaver with the Litschert Varmint Master attachment.
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Wow, some really beautiful rifles. Not trying to start a new thread, but I have a question and maybe some of you guys can help me. Having been in the military I have always favored the stainless/glass in camo for all my hunting rifles. Now back for a bit from overseas, I am really getting bitten by the pre-64 Bug. I am looking at a standard 30-06 in reasonable shape for $999- Is that fair/reasonable. Think it was made in 54.
Thanks for your advice/comments.
Well, it's a beauty and I probably should just keep it, but I have some other rifles (and 308's) that I am shooting more lately and have them slated for next years hunts.

Shoots great : https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthread...89/New_M70_Pleasant_Surprise#Post5297989

s'pose I'd let it go for $800 - PM if interested.
Or partial trade for FXII 6x or Ruger SS 308 (for my younger bro who is getting back into hunting)
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Fellas,
Wow, some really beautiful rifles. Not trying to start a new thread, but I have a question and maybe some of you guys can help me. Having been in the military I have always favored the stainless/glass in camo for all my hunting rifles. Now back for a bit from overseas, I am really getting bitten by the pre-64 Bug. I am looking at a standard 30-06 in reasonable shape for $999- Is that fair/reasonable. Think it was made in 54.
Thanks for your advice/comments.
Thanks for your service. Anything I can do to help I will. 999 is reasonable for an original 06. Get some photos up so we can make sure you wont get taken.
Originally Posted by RLTW
Fellas,
Wow, some really beautiful rifles. Not trying to start a new thread, but I have a question and maybe some of you guys can help me. Having been in the military I have always favored the stainless/glass in camo for all my hunting rifles. Now back for a bit from overseas, I am really getting bitten by the pre-64 Bug. I am looking at a standard 30-06 in reasonable shape for $999- Is that fair/reasonable. Think it was made in 54.
Thanks for your advice/comments.


I've seen them cheaper in my area but if it is "all original" that isn't too far off base. I've got one that isn't all original (changed the stock so it is more suited for hunting/shooting) but it is a tack driver and I know its capabilities and its history. I would never let mine go for less than a grand. But that is just me.... I'd also like to see some pics if you can ge them.. Thanks..
Originally Posted by tdn
Well, it's a beauty and I probably should just keep it, but I have some other rifles (and 308's) that I am shooting more lately and have them slated for next years hunts.

Shoots great : https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthread...89/New_M70_Pleasant_Surprise#Post5297989

s'pose I'd let it go for $800 - PM if interested.
Or partial trade for FXII 6x or Ruger SS 308 (for my younger bro who is getting back into hunting)


Thats a very nice rifle and a great deal..I was just out shooting my SS Hawkeye 308 yesterday alongside my FN model 70 308 fwt and that ruger hangs in there with the winchester with no problems.
I found this Supergrade stock on ebay dirt cheap and had to buy it. Fully inletted complete with crossbolt and swivel studs. Going to get it checkered soon. 7mm WSM
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I can't wait for opening day of rifle season. This rifle will be with me. 300 WSM
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Put an Edge on this 270 Win.
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Pre-64 264 Win Mag. I hate shooting this rifle. Shoots great but kicks like a Clydesdale. It is by far the hardest recoiling rifle I own.
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Beauties, thanks for sharing...
Yes, I just bought one exactly like it in the past couple of months. I had missed an LH stainless one on Gunbroker almost a year earlier at a good price with Zeiss scope and extra custom-painted camp factory stock. The buyer did not want the camo stock, so when that came up again I bought it and have been holding it for a 338 70 to appear. I was outbid a couple of times but finally landed a stainless one at a fair price. Maybe that was a stupid plan but it worked out for me.

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They made them in a LH model for a year or two.
338WM came in a nice walnut stock, got restocked in a McMillan

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Some great looking rifles on this thread!

Here's a few pics of my custom by Mark Penrod. Pre 64, 1940 action.
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Pre-64 264 Win Mag. I hate shooting this rifle. Shoots great but kicks like a Clydesdale. It is by far the hardest recoiling rifle I own.
What's the barrel length on it?
If you don't like the recoil of that .264, try a low comb, steel butt in .300 H&H off the bench sometime... wink

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Originally Posted by WinModel70
Pre-64 264 Win Mag. I hate shooting this rifle. Shoots great but kicks like a Clydesdale. It is by far the hardest recoiling rifle I own.
What's the barrel length on it?


26"
Here is a pic of my Winchester 7mm stw 70 classic on the trail to my favorite bear stand and another with a wild boar i harvested with it on the Georgia Mountain side of the North Carolina/Georgia line!
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1958 .270
1955 .243

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Another favorite pic to share of mine is of a winchester Bearhunter friend of mine with his #5 B&C Largest Grizzly ever recorded and his original winchester 50/120 i think is the caliber,the 50cal.win.rifle is as rare as the Bear!I met him thru a winchester pre-64 model 70 trade!enjoy!
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My 1963 .30-06 FW
Another Griffin and Howe 20" Carbine, with a barrel date of 1936, cal. 30 Gov't 06.
Old Weaver K-2.5 still gets the job done.
Stocked by Al Biesen. It loves anything from 110 to 180 gr.

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The Mule Deer on the left was shot with this gun. One shot @ 425 yds,
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The bullets formed a 2.5" group smack dab in middle of the
lungs (150gr Sierra @ 2750 fps).
The Rifleman's Rifle
This one was my Uncles, then my Dad's,
and now mine for the last 20 or so years.

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Another Griffin and Howe 20" Carbine, with a barrel date of 1936, cal. 30 Gov't 06.
Old Weaver K-2.5 still gets the job done.
Stocked by Al Biesen. It loves anything from 110 to 180 gr.

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The Mule Deer on the left was shot with this gun. One shot @ 425 yds,
and then a follow up @ 400 yds.
The bullets formed a 2.5" group smack dab in middle of the
lungs (150gr Sierra @ 2750 fps).
The Rifleman's Rifle
This one was my Uncles, then my Dad's,
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Originally Posted by bearstalker
They are designed to be fielded and hunted. grin


Kill Bambi's daddy?


As a matter of fact I did this year. grin
257 Robert I picked up.. Not collector grade. but it shoots just fine.

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Gewehrfreund: How does that re-chambered 22 Hornet shoot the 222 munitions accuracy wise?
Hold into the wind
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I have one to show off now. grin 1957 Model 70 Featherweight in 270 Winchester

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My .243 and .270 FWT's are now both scoped and ready to be zeroed in grin

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Just recently picked this one up. Hav'nt had a chance to shoot it yet.

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Cartod NICE rifle, bushmaster I wish my new to me 270 was that nice. Nice rigs fellas.
.30-06 SPRG, MFG 1961

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Odessa, you've got some dandy's there. Nice to see the two 06's and you arn't too partial though seeing how you also have a 270. That stock on the 270 is a bute too.....
Mine is a post 64 and came to me from a great friend and it came as a GREAT package. It's in .338 Win Mag.

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Nothing fancy but she kills stuff and shoots pretty good at the range too.

270 PF, coated in Black T, fluted and coated bolt by Karl Kampfeld, Featherweight syn stock painted by Rick Bin, dings and scratches installed by me. Leupold Vari-X III in 3.5x10x40.

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I've got a few Model 70's. All Pre'64's.
I also have a 1949 action and an Edge handle at the 'smiths waiting to become a 35 Whelen.
1960 action with 24" Shilen in 308 Norma Mag in a McMillan Supergrade stock with 3.5-10X Leupold.
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1958 Fwt in 243, it's been in the house for two or three days, needs the stock redone. Metal is very nice.
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Beautiful chunk of wood.
1960 338 Alaskan Custom stock, Leupold
1950 270 Leupold
1954 257 weaver side mount and K-3 scope

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I don't have any pre-64's (for shame) so I guess I'll have to post some others, errr, post-64's. grin

.270 WSM
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Winchester 52 Reproduction with Leupold VXII 3-9X33EFR

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Winchester M70 SS Classic 338 Win Mag, McM Supergrade

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Winchester M70 Coyote 7mm WSM, Near 10MOA base, Sightron SII 6-24X42 MD

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Winchester M70 SS Classic 375H&H, McM Supergrade, Leupold VX3 2.5-8X36

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Winchester M70 SS Classic 7mm WSM, McM Supergrade (Edge fill), Talley Lwt's, Leupold VX3 2.5-8X36

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Left - Winchester M70 Classic Supergrade .25-06
Right - Winchester M70 Classic Supergrade 270WSM (sold)

No pic's of 4 or 5 others.
I shouldn't have sold that 52B...if you decide to sell it wink

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If you want it back for sentimental reasons, I'd trade it back to ya for the Cooper . . . wink
270 Winchester Leupold FXII 6X36

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Started life as 1941 30/06, now 300 Win Mag, original barrel (recontoured) still shoots great:

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Started life as 1941 30/06, now 300 Win Mag, original barrel (recontoured) still shoots great:

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Didn't need to see the last pic to know it is a Biesen rifle. Very nice....I'd love to have one, one day....
Wowza That is nice!
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Originally Posted by GF1
Started life as 1941 30/06, now 300 Win Mag, original barrel (recontoured) still shoots great:

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Didn't need to see the last pic to know it is a Biesen rifle. Very nice....I'd love to have one, one day....



A fella can spot a Biesen across a crowded room.....Nice rifle!
GF1, Your Biesen rifle is sweet!
.243 FW

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Very nice, Mink...
And they shoot okay too.

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And they shoot okay too.

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They sure do and they are somewhat addicting.....
This year.

1953 257 Roberts

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M70 (post-64) Heavy Varmint (push feed) .22/250
M70 (pre-64) Target .30/06
M70 (pre-64) Standard .30/06
M70 (post-64) Classic Super Express .458 Win. Mag.

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Pre 64 70's,Top to Bottom: 30.06, 270 Supergrade, .458 African (unfired), 243 fwt, serial no. 214, 308 fwt.


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Nice rack!
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Pre 64 70's,Top to Bottom: 30.06, 270 Supergrade, .458 African (unfired), 243 fwt, serial no. 214, 308 fwt.


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Did you get a discount because they don't have bolts?

Very nice rifles!
I just got this one. We'll see how she looks next week hopefully.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=274273677
This past November. Model 70 7mm WSM.

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Originally Posted by GF1
Originally Posted by Cartod
Pre 64 70's,Top to Bottom: 30.06, 270 Supergrade, .458 African (unfired), 243 fwt, serial no. 214, 308 fwt.


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Did you get a discount because they don't have bolts?

Very nice rifles!
Bolts were not included. frown
You really don't have bolts for all the rifles in that picture?
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You really don't have bolts for all the rifles in that picture?


Just must not have been in the budget grin
Originally Posted by boltman
Originally Posted by bearstalker
You really don't have bolts for all the rifles in that picture?


Just must not have been in the budget grin
Bolts are way over rated.


The bolts are greased up and stored separately to free up room in the safe.
Wow, there are some REALLY nice Winchesters on this thread! My first and it won't be my last: Win 70 Classic FWT 6.5x55, factory tube switched out by Lee(redneck) to a Pac-Nor 23" FWT contour 8" twist, Leupy 6x36. It really likes 140gr NPT's and so do I. I'm really enjoying this rifle!


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Very nice bearstalker, and model70man, those are some real beauties.
This is my new one that I found at a small town gunsow today:
FN made in SC 300 wizzum FWT, 2008 limited edition with leupold DD's and leupold VX3 3.5-10x40 with CDS.... grin:

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New rifle with old rifle (both FWT's):

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Nice....I also recently bought a 2008 Limited Edition in 270 WSM, with nice wood like that. Should be getting it soon.
Those new ones look awesome, I wish they would have went with the old style red recoil pad though.
Nice chunk of tree there bsa1917hunter. I guess I need to keep my eye out for the 2008 ltd editions.
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Nice chunk of tree there bsa1917hunter. I guess I need to keep my eye out for the 2008 ltd editions.


Thanks, I've been wanting one for a long time but the right one just hasn't presented itself or I was too late to the dance a couple of times (here in the classifieds). Finally got lucky.. grin
.270 WCF. Born in 1951

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Nice is all I have to say......
Just noticed my new-old .270 has a strait stock (no hump)
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Just noticed my new-old .270 has a strait stock (no hump)


I noticed that too. Let me know if you want to trade for my hunter stock I have on my 1951 std weight 30-06. It's even pillar bedded... whistle grin
My other two M70 stocks got chopped off mad before I gottum'
Yep, most are. I know how you feel. I couldn't bear to do that to my original stock so I sold it off to someone that would appreciate it for what it was. I just wanted a shooter model 70. I'm not regretfull but have learned and am keeping my 1956 fwt 30-06 all original.....You better hang on to that one, it sure is a beauty!!
My other .270 Std has the strait stock also, BUT she's had her ass cut off cry mad cry
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My other .270 Std has the strait stock also, BUT she's had her ass cut off cry mad cry


Don't feel bad. Mine is that way too. I sold this stock on ebay, what a dummy huh....:

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It was wrapped in plastic and in a box and I didn't see any use for it since I had mine set up as a shooter and it is the way I like it now:

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My new to me 63. 30/06 standard.

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That is not a mark on the barrel, lint I guess. The bluing has no wear other than from the action being worked a few times. Wood has very few safe marks.
I was able to get the conetrols mounted and a VXII 2-7X33 on today. Thanks coyotewacker. grin

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I was able to get the conetrols mounted and a VXII 2-7X33 on today. Thanks coyotewhacker. grin

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Man, that looks good. I like those conetrols...
Looks good to me, when I get a buttplate I can move that scope forward a little. Length of pull is a little to long for me. blush
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Sensational stock! What a beauty!
Two pre-64 270s in my safe. Bottom one is headed to my Brother. I didn't show it but Mama has a post 64 featherweight so there are actually three 270s in the safe right now. wink

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Not sure how I missed this thread?

Anyway, this is my faux Sporter Deluxe 7mm Rem Mag that I got last summer:

Started with this stock:
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Nice rifle. That stock looks like one found on a super grade. What bullets you shooting?
Good looking rifles Idared. The top one has some nice figure.
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Two pre-64 270s in my safe. Bottom one is headed to my Brother. I didn't show it but Mama has a post 64 featherweight so there are actually three 270s in the safe right now. wink

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Beautiful rifles. Is the top one custom stocked?
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Nice rifle. That stock looks like one found on a super grade. What bullets you shooting?


Thanks, it's not quite a super grade, same wood grade, but no cross bolt (just the fake dot) and standard swivels. It's the same stock that Winchester put on the Sporter Deluxes in 2008.

I was shooting 150 Ballistic Tips on antelope and 175 Partitions on elk and deer, but didn't take either of those with that rifle last year.
I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are some beautiful rifles in here, however I have always admired guns that have had to work for a living. I am as proud as a new Papa about every dent ding and abrasion that my guns have received in their years of service. I have included photographs of a 1948 vintage 270 Win. owned and used by an old rancher in Colorado. Best of his recallection he has shot over 100 elk and too many deer to remember. His is the rifle with the red recoil pad. The shiny in the photograph is the sun glaring off an area that has vertually no blue left on it. What little bluing that is left on the gun is very faint. You will also notice that the checkering is worn flat from handling. The other is a 1948 vintage 30-06 that I used for many years while big game hunting in Colorado. It has accounted for many deer, elk, antelope and coyotes. My wife is too good of a photographer as it does not show many of it's character marks. You will notice there is vertually no finish around the pistol grip and floor plate from the years of being carried and used. Checkering again is worn flat, little blueing on the floor plate and no blueing left on the bold handle. Though not a Winchester, I am adding a photograph of my old prewar Colt Woodsman that I used while guiding big game hunters. I believe you can tell from what finish is left that it has led a colorful life also.

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Fine looking rifles, they are supposed to be used. I like em.
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Beautiful rifles. Is the top one custom stocked?


Thanks for the compliment. Yes it is a new stock that was made using a supergrade pattern I have. Believe it or not the blank was bought on Ebay for less than $50.00. wink
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I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are some beautiful rifles in here, however I have always admired guns that have had to work for a living. I am as proud as a new Papa about every dent ding and abrasion that my guns have received in their years of service.


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I couldn't agree with you more. Compared to my rifle before its face lift, those look pretty darn nice. Mine had been well used by me for many years. It was on its second stock as the first got broken when I took a nasty tumble in some pretty steep country in North Idaho. The checkering was worn pretty bad on the second stock from being carried so much. It was on its second or third recoil pad but other than that it was still a fairly stable stock considering all it had been through. Add to that a lot of the blue had been worn, especially the triggerguard-floorplate area which was getting pretty shiny as was the barrel as well. In short, I was getting embarrassed when folks would look at it and wonder how a rifle could look so bad.

Anyway, one day I happened on a picture of a pre-64 Super Grade and thought that it might be fun to try and see if I could bring my rifle back to look something like that. As luck would have it I came across a Super Grade stock pattern for an absolute song, I think about $8.00 if I recall correctly, and also a black walnut blank for less than $50.00. The blank is very dense, hence a bit heavier than I would like, but I won't be doing any real hard hunting with the rifle in the high country anymore anyway. My gunsmith profiled the stock blank, to the pattern I found, for me and refinished the metal to as close as original as he could. I am very pleased with all his work on it. My brother shaped, finished and checkered the stock for me. He shaped and checkered it as close as he could to the pictures in the "Rifleman's Rifle" book by Rule. I still had the original steel buttplate so it was used.

I didn't do all this just to make a nice looking rifle but rather to give a facelift to a well used companion after 50 plus years of trustworthy service. I still take it out, and there are some minute marks, but I admit I am pretty careful with it now. I don't feel guilty about it because it has paid its dues and then some. I will pass it on to my grandson someday and let him put the real marks on it.
Found this one collecting dust today�.


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Good play on the pics and nice rig gunnut. But you suck, LOL nice wood on it too. Great find!
Thanks RB. I can't wait to bounce a big doe with it. I just gave away a gallon jug of "Bob brass" a while back cry
Awww man that sucks. You ended up with a nice rig though!
Got to you love Mdl 70s. Here's my 1952 30-06 topped with a Weaver VX-7. It shoots the Sierra 165 GKs right at 1 MOA. They are classic guns indeed...and as Bob mentioned..does it get any better?

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Man, some of these are rifle porn for sure!!!!! Gunnut you are the man with that bob and 32 20fan, it doesn't get much better than that. Thanks for sharing!!!
Very nice rifles, a 257 Bob would be very cool as far as I am concerned
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My 243 Featherweight with BalVar 8a.
Thats a fine FW Greg wink
Raybass is right, you suck gunnut....Let me know if you ever want to find a better home for that 257 bob....Just sayin.. whistle
This thread never gets old. Nice stuff gents!
Couple years ago I passed on a Pre 64 in .300 win mag. Didn't know what they were worth and this one was priced REAL right cry

I didn't know til now that the Bob's are few and far betwixt.
Originally Posted by gunnut308
Couple years ago I passed on a Pre 64 in .300 win mag. Didn't know what they were worth and this one was priced REAL right cry

I didn't know til now that the Bob's are few and far betwixt.


Oh no, you can find them everywhere. How much do you want for yours.... whistle
My 358 Win.

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257 Roberts...

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Is that the Cabelas model?


270 Winchester...

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Is that the Cabelas model?
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Originally Posted by southwind
This thread never gets old. Nice stuff gents!


I was thinking that too......very nice stuff guys..
another Pre'64 followed me home a few days ago.
1951 in 270 in a custom stock with an old B&L 2.5-8 with adjustable mount.
I might put one of my extra Leupolds on it, but then I might not.
I might go over the stock and take some of the sharp edges off too, but then I might not do that either, it's a nice "period piece" as it is. I will however put a new butt pad on it..;)
I did however slide the scope ahead about 1-1/2" after I took the pics...
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I've reeled in my limit for now:

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Model 70 sporter .270 wsm. I won it at a raffle two nights ago. Today I ordered the mounts and a Vx-3L 3.5-10x50mm leupold for it. Im very excited, I've wanted a model 70 for years! I wish it wasnt a sporter but hell, its a 70... I'll take it.
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Model 70 sporter .270 wsm. I won it at a raffle two nights ago. Today I ordered the mounts and a Vx-3L 3.5-10x50mm leupold for it. Im very excited, I've wanted a model 70 for years! I wish it wasnt a sporter but hell, its a 70... I'll take it.


You wish it wasn't a Sporter? So I assume you wish it was a Featherweight correct? Have you asked the dealer they baught it from about trading it in on a Featherweight? Most baquets around here the dealer will let you trade it back in for what the club paid for it or a couple bucks less on what you really want. Even if it costs you $50 or $100 is it not worth it to get exactly what you want? Just MHO
I wish it was a super grade model 70
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Nice score, and just in time for spring bear season, too.
I only have two.

First up, 1937 production, 7 x 57 mauser custom.



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And then my 80's production 7x57 Mauser lightweight.


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Some pretty wood!
Wow, that custom is beautiful!
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I only have two.

First up, 1937 production, 7 x 57 mauser custom.



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Wow!!! That's beautiful.....Man oh man...Now I'm not going to show my new first year 308 fwt.... whistle
I could learn to like dat one! laugh
Bsa1917hunter,

Post them pic's!!

I love to see them old 70's!!
Oh ok.....:


First year for the 308 win and the fwt (1952). Pretty good score at the gunshow today. Had a guy offer me $75.00 for the period correct bueler mount and 4x scope that was on it so I took them off and may sell them to him later...Still doing some research to see what they are worth. Anyway, I'm not shy to tell you guys what I pay for my finds as I will probably never sell any of my pre 64's: This one set me back $900.00 but if I sell the scope and mount I'll be into it for $825.00 so that's not a bad score for todays find (it also came with a sling but I took it off for the cleaning):

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All original first year 308 fwt in excellent condition other than the aluminum floorplate finish is worn frown.......It will likely keep my 30-06 company grin

Really good find at a fair price.
Well done, very nice!
I have a Winchester Mod 70,chambered in 30-06; s/n 81509
Can anyone tell me the date please ??
Texasdoug
Sure enough your rifle was made February of 1948....Welcome to the fire too by the way....
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Sure enough your rifle was made February of 1948....

Is there a resource that identifies both the month and year of manufacture of Pre 64 M70's?
Yep, Roger Rules "The Rifleman's Rifle" book....:

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Yep, Roger Rules "The Rifleman's Rifle" book....:

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Got it....thanks.
The softcover version will set you back about $80, but is invaluable. The hardcopy version you'll have to stop at the bank first.

BSAHunter,

I love the featherweights and .308 round.

Very nice find at the show.

Finds like that are what keep me hitting as many as I can.

Originally Posted by Freedumb1
The softcover version will set you back about $80, but is invaluable. The hardcopy version you'll have to stop at the bank first.

BSAHunter,

I love the featherweights and .308 round.

Very nice find at the show.

Finds like that are what keep me hitting as many as I can.



Thanks....I've been lucky this last month...I really like the small town gunshows, seems you can find better deals on some pretty cool stuff.... grin
Hmm I need to get one of those books.
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Hmm I need to get one of those books.


They are a wealth of knowledge kind of like BobinNH.....I got this one as a gift for fathers day last year or else I would have bought the soft cover one for $80.00. It has all the same information in it but you don't have to be affraid to drink you coffee around it... blush
Nice 308 too bsa! Freedumb that 7X57 wow!
Yeah I cheat alot and ask Bob. laugh
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Yeah I cheat alot and ask Bob. laugh


That's usually the easy way... grin
If anyone is interested I have a first edition signed leather bound edition of Rule's book with the slip cover I would sell for $800. I also have a Copy of Whitiker's book that I would sell for $500.
Just saw this thread, sorry for the crappy pics.

My deer rifle: Pre War Ser. #109 (second month production) 270 Win Krieger barrel.

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Another Pre War ('39) in 7mm Rem.


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Pre War ('40) .375 H&H Krieger barrel and Tilden safety.


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And my synthetic stocked travel rifle are identical (only one pic). One is a Pre 64 .270 Win Krieger barrel, the other (pictured) a '49 Transition .340 Wby also Krieger barrel. Taking this rifle to Kodiak in 10 days.


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OMG can't believe I forgot my Sisk .300 Win. This rifle has been all over.....kinda took my best friend for granted cause ya know he's always by your side......


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And I have 2 other Pre War long action donors ('39 and '41) and a complete '40 .270 rifle donor as well. Eventually I'm gonna replace the Pre 64s with the Pre War actions.
Frank,

Quite the collection!!!

I wish I was headed for AK!!

Nice
Wow is all I have to say Frank......
Yep, great collection there. I really like that 340 Wby. Who you hunting with and what bullet you choose for the hunt?
Brian Peterson. I worked up a new load (250 gr A frames 84gr RL 22, Norma, Fed 215). I had originally worked up a load with 7828 and TSX a few years ago, but Brian said he liked A frames. This will be my first hunt without TSX since they came out.

I forgot to add my Sisk .300 Winnie before. Ol' Charlie built a good'un there shot the crap outta some animals.
Originally Posted by Frank
Just saw this thread, sorry for the crappy pics.

My deer rifle: Pre War Ser. #109 (second month production) 270 Win Krieger barrel.

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Another Pre War ('39) in 7mm Rem.


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Pre 64 .338 Win


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Pre War ('40) .375 H&H Krieger barrel and Tilden safety.


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And my synthetic stocked travel rifle are identical (only one pic). One is a Pre 64 .270 Win Krieger barrel, the other (pictured) a '49 Transition .340 Wby also Krieger barrel. Taking this rifle to Kodiak in 10 days.


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OMG can't believe I forgot my Sisk .300 Win. This rifle has been all over.....kinda took my best friend for granted cause ya know he's always by your side......


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And I have 2 other Pre War long action donors ('39 and '41) and a complete '40 .270 rifle donor as well. Eventually I'm gonna replace the Pre 64s with the Pre War actions.



Nice rifles, Frank! Well done! wink

I bet those Aframes will work for you.
Here is my humble addition. 1951 barreled action with a stock I found on ebay. This is the rifle I'd like to build into a vietnam era sniper rifle

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Here is my humble addition. 1951 barreled action with a stock I found on ebay. This is the rifle I'd like to build into a vietnam era sniper rifle

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I think the Vietnam sniper rifles were all pre-war actions.
I know, the safety will be retro-fitted to at least give the appearance of pre-war.
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I know, the safety will be retro-fitted to at least give the appearance of pre-war.


This is just my opinion so please don't get offended but I would think you would be farther ahead to start with a pre-war action if you are going to put all the money into making a nice replica rifle. You would also need to have the rear tang ground to a clover leaf and a clip slot milled in.
That may be true. This barreled action is real nice too. It was in a friends safe for the last 25 years. The stock I found isn't perfect, but at least it wasn't cut. I may keep this one as is and keep an eye out for the right one.
Wow, I now hate Frank! grin What a great collection of very fine 70's.
Don't know that I hate him, but am certainly envious
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Don't know that I hate him, but am certainly envious


He sucks.....and can smoke one of these. I hope it's soggy too....:

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Here's mine.

It's a 1955 30/06 Super Grade with a National Match Barrel and Ebony forend. It originally came with a Lyman WH aperture sight but I replaced it with a Leupold VX3 2.5-8x36.

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Those are some really high end optics to. Swarski/Leupold. Hey Frank, whats your address? LOL
Originally Posted by EricM
Here's mine.

It's a 1955 30/06 Super Grade with a National Match Barrel and Ebony forend. It originally came with a Lyman WH aperture sight but I replaced it with a Leupold VX3 2.5-8x36.

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Shoots okay, too.

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Eric, Do tell more about your rifle! You say it's a national match barrel so it has no groove for a sight hood right? Is the action cut for a stripper clip? Was it originally in the SG stock or did you replace the marksman stock on it? It is a gorgous rifle!
Originally Posted by EricM
Here's mine.

It's a 1955 30/06 Super Grade with a National Match Barrel and Ebony forend. It originally came with a Lyman WH aperture sight but I replaced it with a Leupold VX3 2.5-8x36.

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Shoots okay, too.

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Very nice my friend. I love it when a beautiful pre 64 shoots!!!!
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Just saw this thread, sorry for the crappy pics.

My deer rifle: Pre War Ser. #109 (second month production) 270 Win Krieger barrel.

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Frank,

What's the story on the mule deer? Looks like a Mexico buck
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Originally Posted by EricM
Here's mine.

It's a 1955 30/06 Super Grade with a National Match Barrel and Ebony forend. It originally came with a Lyman WH aperture sight but I replaced it with a Leupold VX3 2.5-8x36.

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Shoots okay, too.

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Eric, Do tell more about your rifle! You say it's a national match barrel so it has no groove for a sight hood right? Is the action cut for a stripper clip? Was it originally in the SG stock or did you replace the marksman stock on it? It is a gorgous rifle!


Reelman, that's correct - no sight hood. I'm not sure whether the action is cut for a stripper clip... how do you tell? This is not a converted Target rifle and based on what I know from the private collector near New Haven that I bought it from this is a non catalogued Super Grade National Match with upgraded wood and a real ebony fore end tip. One expert who looked at it felt it was factory upgraded wood and a very unique special order gun. It was sold to a gun shop by an old gentleman who it seems was the original order... bought it in the 50's and held onto it for 55 years before selling. Here are some more photos before I had the scope installed:

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I took it out to the range yesterday, shooting off wood blocks and a towel. It was foggy as hell and hard to see the target so I'm pretty pleased to get any group at all. I still need to work on controlling that 5th flyer! smile

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Eric, The stripper clip cut would be at the back of the action opening. INstead of being smooth there would be a cut about 1/2" wide and 1/2" long going into the front of the rear bridge. A picture from the top of the receiver without the scope base on would make it real easy to tell but there is no need to take all that off just to satisfy my curiosity. It was my understanding that all National Match M70's had this cut but with a rifle like this that was special ordered who knows? I'm guessing it doesn't have the clip slot because if it did you would have mentioned how hard it was to find bases for it as the rear hole spacing is different than other M70's.

It is a beuatiful rifle, if only WInchester kept better records at the time to be able to be 100% sure it was original but IMO I would say that it most likely is all original. It's a shame you couldn't get some documentation from the original owner. I hope you know what a special, and VERY valuable, rifle you have there!

Thanks for sharing!
Reelman, I had a HELL of a time finding bases for this rifle! The standard bases for the pre-64's would not work for it. I ended up using Talley steel bases for the Winchester Model 70 (.435" rear measurement and .865" fronts) Pre 64 Long Action Magnum (Double Extended Front) - 25XX704 - and 1" Screw Lock Detachable Rings in Low / Matte - M200003.

Here's the thread from 2010.

Eric
Then it sounds like it does have the clip slot. I have a couple sets of bases for those actions for the old Kimber rings (along with some sets of rings) that I have no use for at the moment but knowing how hard they are to find I'm not anxious to get rid of them.
Originally Posted by EricM
Reelman, I had a HELL of a time finding bases for this rifle! The standard bases for the pre-64's would not work for it. I ended up using Talley steel bases for the Winchester Model 70 (.435" rear measurement and .865" fronts) Pre 64 Long Action Magnum (Double Extended Front) - 25XX704 - and 1" Screw Lock Detachable Rings in Low / Matte - M200003.

Here's the thread from 2010.

Eric


Ouch, that sounds like a pita......
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by EricM
Reelman, I had a HELL of a time finding bases for this rifle! The standard bases for the pre-64's would not work for it. I ended up using Talley steel bases for the Winchester Model 70 (.435" rear measurement and .865" fronts) Pre 64 Long Action Magnum (Double Extended Front) - 25XX704 - and 1" Screw Lock Detachable Rings in Low / Matte - M200003.

Here's the thread from 2010.

Eric


Ouch, that sounds like a pita......


It was a royal PITA... but I got there, in large part due to the kind folks at 24H who offered input, advice and free therapy. smile

I also have to give a big kudos to Talley!
Originally Posted by EricM
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by EricM
Reelman, I had a HELL of a time finding bases for this rifle! The standard bases for the pre-64's would not work for it. I ended up using Talley steel bases for the Winchester Model 70 (.435" rear measurement and .865" fronts) Pre 64 Long Action Magnum (Double Extended Front) - 25XX704 - and 1" Screw Lock Detachable Rings in Low / Matte - M200003.

Here's the thread from 2010.

Eric


Ouch, that sounds like a pita......


It was a royal PITA... but I got there, in large part due to the kind folks at 24H who offered input, advice and free therapy. smile

I also have to give a big kudos to Talley!


The people at talley are great. One of the reasons I buy a lot of Talley stuff.....They will bend over backwards to help a customer....
Here's my Super Grade .243 with Griffin & Howe side mount, which I bought from G&H when they had a showroom on 44th Street in New York City. The scope is a 4X fixed power Leupold. It has seen very little use and will soon be looking for a new home, since old age and infirmity have curtailed my hunting and shooting activity.

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Got the second twin reassembled tonite.
Top one, Pre'64 Model 70 Fwt in 243 from 1958. Had a super talented guy refinish the stock , he applied 19 coats of Tung Oil and sharpened up the checkering....looks amazing.
Lower rifle is my '59 Fwt 30-06 that I've had for a couple years now.
Both are wearing gloss 2.5-8X Leupolds in matching mounts.
I'm tempted to ask him to do the 30-06, but it's original and not in bad shape.
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A 1939 I found in north Idaho.

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There sure are some gorgeous custom 70s here.
Not as fancy as some here, but I am definitely looking forward to taking it out hunting. I may just go try to take a coyote with it today.

My 1st M70:

1971 M70 Mannlicher, .30-06 Springfield
Talley Lightweight Ring-Base Set
Weaver 1-3x

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Frank,

What's the story on the mule deer? Looks like a Mexico buck



Actually the 3 deer you see all came from Sonora ol' Mexico- the 2 mule deer and the Coues on the bottom. The 2 shown I shot back to back with one of my Weaver Pre 64 28" & 26". I shot a third one the following year (same rifle)- a nice 7 x 5.
Originally Posted by Sainte_Terrer
Not as fancy as some here, but I am definitely looking forward to taking it out hunting. I may just go try to take a coyote with it today.

My 1st M70:

1971 M70 Mannlicher, .30-06 Springfield
Talley Lightweight Ring-Base Set
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I like that! 20" barrel?
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A 1939 I found in north Idaho.

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Now that is simply breathtaking!
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Originally Posted by Tony
A 1939 I found in north Idaho.

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Now that is simply breathtaking!


+1 to that! Gorgeous rifle!
18.5". I've only shot a box through it but it does pretty good. Going to work up some loads with a faster burning powder in order to try to get more complete ignition.
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Kinda funny story on this one. A friend bought it at a gunshow I was working a few years ago. Brought it over and was so excited about it. I asked him,"why would you want that gaudy thing?" After handling it a few times, I couldnt believe how well it fit me, and the lightness of it! Long story short, its mine now. Its a 70 fw in 270, 1954. Mounted a Leupold compact 3x9 on. Have not shot it yet, but I think / hope it will shoot fine!
A few weeks ago, I asked for help from the Campfire members to find a good Model 70 in 300 H&H. I advertised in the classified as a WTB.

Well, I had a few offers from the members who owned 300 H&Hs, but didn't see anything that that really excited me.

I had several members refer me to Perry County Fireams in Central PA, and I gave them a call. They actually had several to pick from and I chose a 1955 with a raised comb and in 95 to 97% condition.

I also had a member offer a couple of boxes period W-W 180 gr Silvertip Ammo that I accepted.

Thanks to all that contributed.

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Sharp looking 300 H&H!! Congrats!!

Eric
Thanks Eric.

Don
Don that's a very nice one!
Nice one, Don! I'm digging that retro ammo, too. Let us know how it shoots. What scope you going to use?
Thats a beauty Don. You did very well......
It doesn't get any better....
Thanks guys.

I would highly recommend Perry County Firearms. As you all know, they aren't cheap, but they specialize in pre-64 Model 70s.

bearstalker. It is a toss up as to whether I shoot this one or not.

I really don't need to, but it is awfully tempting.

Poconojack. Thanks again for the tip.

Don
Ohh man nice rifle Don!
Tony Tony Tony, that 39 is tooooo saweeet! And Don what a find and awesome H&H
First time here I have a few mod 70's u guys may like.
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54' 06 target in sporter stock, and the 61'target in marksman stock, the 54' is my Carlos Hathcock SW GA beanpatch whitetail hammer. I have never pulled the trigger with that gun that was not bang flop, DRT .
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59' Varminter in 220 swift, my all time favorite crow slayer
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56' Varminter in .243 win. . Ill save a few for later all these guns are easy sub MOA and have shot 5 shot sub .5 on perfect days with pet factory ammo.
winchesterpoor, nice stuff there and welcome to the forum!
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First time here I have a few mod 70's u guys may like.
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54' 06 target in sporter stock, and the 61'target in marksman stock, the 54' is my Carlos Hathcock SW GA beanpatch whitetail hammer. I have never pulled the trigger with that gun that was not bang flop, DRT .
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59' Varminter in 220 swift, my all time favorite crow slayer
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56' Varminter in .243 win. . Ill save a few for later all these guns are easy sub MOA and have shot 5 shot sub .5 on perfect days with pet factory ammo.


Very nice, you'll fit in nicely. Hope you have thick skin though. Welcome to the fire......
Nice rigs winchesterpoor.
Winchesterpoor, welcome to the campfire, that has to be one of the best first posts that I have seen in a while, quite an introduction.
Not a pre 64 but a good one, a 90's sporter varmint 26" in .223 rem, I traded thru 3 of these till I found one as or more accurate than nut behind trigger. These were sleepers back when I started buying and trading in them. This one is a hammer with bullets up to 55 gr, It will not stabilize the 69 gr match stuff, I think I have 1 in 12 twist.
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a Coyote lite in .25wssm that I bought new on a lark that has become a favorite whitetail ,coyote hammer. The thing is lite, it points like a mod 12 ,16 ga pump, Ive become a large .25 cal lover ,I shoot 110 gr accubonds and the winchester 120 gr PEP ammo. The deer do a little dance , hunch and jump but all go down in a blink.. I have a 4.5x14 vx3 with the varmint reticule on this one and love the scope,favorite grab and go,ride in the truck most deer season mod 70.

If its OK to slip a non mod 70 in here are a couple of favorites that I shoot on the cheap.
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A 56' non CMP mod 52C and a new to me, re issue Zanders HB mod 52C sporter. both shoot Wolf MT like a house afire at 50 and 100, they also shoot bulk fed AutoMatch very well.
Not a good photo but a custom shop sporter varmint, 89' in 22-250 that is a finish nail driver with any ammo Ive stuck in her including Win white box 40 rd pks. I have all paper work ,box and factory sleeve. I do not know who made barrel for win custom shop but this one hums.. Its to pretty to hunt but I have a B and C composite that I put it in once.another never sell keeper.
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A few weeks ago, I asked for help from the Campfire members to find a good Model 70 in 300 H&H. I advertised in the classified as a WTB.

Well, I had a few offers from the members who owned 300 H&Hs, but didn't see anything that that really excited me.

I had several members refer me to Perry County Fireams in Central PA, and I gave them a call. They actually had several to pick from and I chose a 1955 with a raised comb and in 95 to 97% condition.

I also had a member offer a couple of boxes period W-W 180 gr Silvertip Ammo that I accepted.

Thanks to all that contributed.

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That one makes my heart flutter, This new stuff just does not compare....Knock on wood, every pre 64 Ive owned has been easy sub moa with good factory ammo. very best my friend
Folks there are just to many special guns in this topic to comment on, I dont know if I should buy flowers for the bride, go out back or call 911... I know in the last 20 hrs Ive spent 3 looking at great guns... very best
Winchesterpoor, nice herd. The target models remind me of a m70 pushfeed target I had in 06 and was stupid enough to sell when I was young and didn't know any better. That rifle shot lights out.

Thanks for sharing.
Ive had friends tell me the push feeds were easy to turn into 1000 yard guns. I have and had several classic sporters from mid 90's that shoot great, Im a fan of the supergrade classic boss guns. beautiful and shoot very nice.
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winchesterpoor...I know the feeling!

Welcome to the "fire".

Thanks for your comments and, obviously, you have some nice stuff as well.

I hope you will enjoy your stay.

donsm70
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Not a good photo but a custom shop sporter varmint, 89' in 22-250 that is a finish nail driver with any ammo Ive stuck in her including Win white box 40 rd pks. I have all paper work ,box and factory sleeve. I do not know who made barrel for win custom shop but this one hums.. Its to pretty to hunt but I have a B and C composite that I put it in once.another never sell keeper.
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Nice looking rifle!!
Hey winpoor! Good to see you over here now, it's been awhile.
My Hornet:
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My Hornet:
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How much? Need more information...... whistle
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Originally Posted by angusmac
My Hornet:
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How much? Need more information...... whistle


I've only got three 70s. I guess I'll hold on to this one wink
Very nice rifle.........I know Raybass is drooling over it right now.... grin
Thats one of many Pre 64's I would like to have bsa. All I need is money!
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More 270s
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375 H&H

Almost forgot the 300 H&H
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How much? Need more information...... whistle


Com'n! You have enough already. whistle
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How much? Need more information...... whistle


Com'n! You have enough already. whistle


Can't ever have enough can you??? grin Pal, I ran across a very nice std wt 30-06 that looked just like yours except this one had a pachmayer decelerator on it instead of the whiteline pad.......I did everything I could to keep from buying that thing.... sick
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...Can't ever have enough can you??? grin ...


It must be time for another 3-rifle battery thread. eek
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...Can't ever have enough can you??? grin ...


It must be time for another 3-rifle battery thread. eek


Can they all be pre 64 model 70 30-06's.........Lets see: FWT, STD WT, and super grade........I just need to get the supergrade now.... whistle
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A few weeks ago, I asked for help from the Campfire members to find a good Model 70 in 300 H&H. I advertised in the classified as a WTB.

Well, I had a few offers from the members who owned 300 H&Hs, but didn't see anything that that really excited me.

I had several members refer me to Perry County Fireams in Central PA, and I gave them a call. They actually had several to pick from and I chose a 1955 with a raised comb and in 95 to 97% condition.

I also had a member offer a couple of boxes period W-W 180 gr Silvertip Ammo that I accepted.

Thanks to all that contributed.

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Hey winpoor! Good to see you over here now, it's been awhile.

Hi Exbio, Im still waking up wanting to do the 'Frank Church' hunt..
A couple of 90's mod 70's that I love, gave the 30-06 to new son in law for wedding present. Now to put him on a nice whitetail.
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Here's my Model 70 Laredo LRH 7mm Remington Magnum. 26 inch non Boss barrel, Talley mounts, scope is a Tasco Euro-Class 5x20-44 mm. Shots 162 gr A-Max @ 2970 fps and groups 3 inches @ 400 yards.

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1971 PF in 308 that I built. Was a 243 and I trued the action and put a factory take off 308 on. Has a Tubbs speed lock firing pin, Boyds JRS stock, Nikon 3x9-40 scope in Warne rings.

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Late 80's PF in 300 H&H Magnum with a Redfield Ultimate Illuminator 3x12-56mm in Leupold QRW rings and Boyds Varmiter stock.

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80's PF Carbine in 223 with Leupold Vari-x II 3x9-40 W/AO

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80's PF Carbine in 30/06 with factory sights. Added a peep and it works great. Good little mountain gun.

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You are winchester poor and not a bad state to be in. I had a 7mm Laredo, anotherone I souldn't have let get away.

I was in Frank Church on the Salmon back in mid April. Very rugged and beautiful country.

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Fantastic Mod 70's on this site. If you shoot em Ya gotta love em..
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Now that's a beauty!

Where did you get it?

In use for hunting?
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Now that's a beauty!

Where did you get it?

In use for hunting?
it's been in my collection for a long time. I have never shot it, and it appears unfired. It had a 13 page thread About it discussing weather or not to shoot it. frown

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I have a clear and loud opinion on that smile

And I think those who once made that rifle would agree.
I really didn't know if I wanted to post this one or not it doesn't match up to all these nice pre-64s on here.

The 'bastid' Model 70. Circa 2001, pushfeed, New Haven, 7mm RM. I call it 'Thumper' or 'Black Death'.

Notice the Bubba Budy for added 'bastid' effect. grin

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Just an update. After finly getting a scope, leupold 4.5x14x40 longrange cds leupold DD rings laped sighted in found out today it is a keeper. I know without pics it did not happen but i will claim sub MOA. thanks to all the the knowledge on the Campfire. thank you for your help.
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I finally recieved my Edge for my Pre 64 270. Looks good but still needs work. Bedding and etc.

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Great looking rifle Ray. I haven't seen a 70 FW for sale around here for a long time.
You really should sell me that horribly gaudy thing. Please. grin
I picked up another Pre'64 Model 70 a couple weeks ago so I thought it was time for a photo op.
Top to bottom.
1960 action, 24" Shilen in 308 Norma. McMillan Supergrade stock, 3.5-10X Leupy.
1958 Fwt in 243 with 2.5-8X Leupy, stock refinished.
1959 Fwt in 30-06 with 2.5-8X Leupy
1951 270 with old custom stock(Fajen?)& 2.5-8 B&L in adjustable mount.
Recently acquired 1952 beater in 30-06, this was a 270 with a bulged barrel in which I installed a '46 barrel in 30-06.
Can't find anything else that "feels" like a Pre'64 M70....
Looking for more...
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Found a sweet deal on a Win 70 Stainless Ultimate Shadow (claw extractor/bottom metal/classic trigger/odd but light stock)in 7mm WSM for $475.
Not sure how I'm going to outfit her yet or what loads to start working up, but I've got a few more months
Ok, I need to show off my new to me Pre 64 model 70. 375 H&H. Just put on the leupold VX3 1.5-5x20 in the steel Leupold bases and rings the other day. It's my dream rifle grin:

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I also had my 30-06 classic sporter cerekoted in sniper grey:
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And slapped a different scope on my FN PBR XP 300 wsm which is a souped up winchester model 70 classic action:
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Been busy with my winchesters lately grin
Here's a '55 Super Grade 30/06 National Match which I recently took to WY. It's wearing a Leupold 2.5-8x36 with Talley lows.

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Here's a '55 Super Grade 30/06 National Match which I recently took to WY. It's wearing a Leupold 2.5-8x36 with Talley lows.

Eric
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When you say it's a Super Grade National Match what do you mean? Does the front sight ramp have a groove for a sight hood? Do you have any kind of documentation showing that it left the factory that way or that it isn't a National Match in a SG stock? Regardles it's a beautiful rifle and if it's factory I give you credit for actually taking a rifle like that out in the field.
Eric, that's a beauty. I like your choice in scope and mounts too. Looks good!
Thanks, BSA. The scope is a good fit for it, I think. Just right.

Reelman, we had a good conversation about the rifle back in April: https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...44956/28/Let_s_see_your_winchester_mode.

It was a pleasure taking it out in the field! smile

Eric
Oh my!
Eric, My memory mut be slipping as I forgot all about our previous conversation. What a beautiful rifle you have there.
Eric the rifle is a jewel of course, but can we get rid of that gawd-forsaken blue tape and at least get some black electrician tape instead? grin

It looks like a Brazilian Super model with a pair of combat boots on her feet.... cry sick smile
Bob, I wouldn't kick a brazilian super model out of bed. I don't care if she was wearing combat boots....Oh wait, wrong forum sorry guys... blush whistle Carry on with your beautiful winchester model 70s grin
Thanks, Reelman! Bob, I love your analogy. I'm with BSA. If she's a Brazilian Super model I don't care what she's wearing on her feet! whistle grin
Super Grade Featherweight in .257 Roberts....
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Very nice you guys!

BSA - Great looking 375! Are you going to try to kill something with it? wink

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.308 Fwt....
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Eric you and bsa are right about the models! grin


Rockin' nice M70's here guys!
Here are a couple of mine - old and new(er):

"Gently used" wink 1957 300 H&H
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2008 FWT 270
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Those two should just about cover it.

I like 'em. donsm70
On the, "gently used" one, a nice solid Winchester red pad would make that rifle look great smile
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On the, "gently used" one, a nice solid Winchester red pad would make that rifle look great smile


This is one I found and am considering - any others I should be looking at?

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1962 .264 win mag in Featherweight.Picked up this rifle for $350 with some brass and dies. The seller told me he had the rear sight punched so it wouldn't move when riding his quad! mad Maybe someone here can help. I live in quebec,canada and did some research on the rifle but I have some difficulties in finding real value for the rifle. Found lots in other calibers but not much in 264, seems rare in my region! You can clearly see the punch marks, some blue missin but wood is in very good condition. Thanks in advance!
That's a shame about the rear sight....You may want to check the condition of the bore (many are "shot out")....Looks like the stock has been refinished too. You've got one hell of a good action there with tons of potential and you did good at $350.00..........Keep us posted if you change it up a bit or if you find out the bore is pristine and it shoots dime sized groups at 100....
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Man, that super grade is one hot looking rifle....Stunning!!!
What a find, put yourself a 24-26" Douglas air guage winchester target profile barrel in 264 win mag and never look back, the feather weight barrel will not burn the powder.
Well, glad to be able to post this beauty here. I am now down to one (yes, 1) big game hunting rifle. About to send it off for bedding, but if it shoots as good as it looks a second stock will be ordered and life will be a lot simpler w/out horse trading rifles all the timegrin


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Model 70 Classic - 30-06
FN 1pc Bottom Metal
Stock perfected by Karnis (tip, cap, pad, refinish)
6x36 LRD in Talley Xlows (pictured in lows)
2nd stock will be McM Sako Classic EDGE, PT&G BM
Super Grade Featherweight in .257 Roberts. Finally found one with wood I liked, so I jumped on it. Hope it shoots as well as Jay's.


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That's a beauty. Nice find....
Nice chunka wood.
Yeah, nice rifle! Let us know how it shoots. You got a good one.
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Super Grade Featherweight in .257 Roberts. Finally found one with wood I liked, so I jumped on it. Hope it shoots as well as Jay's.


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Good luck finding a bolt. grin
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Super Grade Featherweight in .257 Roberts. Finally found one with wood I liked, so I jumped on it. Hope it shoots as well as Jay's.


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Good luck finding a bolt. grin


Damn Winchester quality control [bleep] up again!!!!!! It's one thing to slap the wrong extractor on one of these but when you forget the whole bolt, you know you've been smoking too much dope!!!! whistle
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Super Grade Featherweight in .257 Roberts. Finally found one with wood I liked, so I jumped on it. Hope it shoots as well as Jay's.


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Good luck finding a bolt. grin


Yeah, this is what a bolt looks like:

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Wow - great snag - awesome looking "Bob."
It does have a bolt guys....lol.

Awhile back on a Cabelas Club Member sale, I caught a great deal on a new Trijicon AccuPoint 3x9x40 Crosshair Amber Dot scope. Now I know just the rifle to put it on.
This thread needs a bump!
Sure does, some damn fine winchesters here....Thanks for sharing...
I put together a Faux EW recently. Will post a field pic soon..
Got a few but i'll tell you about my favourite. Nothing special about it, just an early 90's SS Classic in .270 Winchester. It's had a number of scopes over the years but currently wears a Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40 in Talley LW's. It's the rifle I take when things are gonna be rough like chasing pigs through bush on the quad.

I spent a bit of time in Australia's Northern Territory this year & this is the rifle I took. Dust, mud, blood, water, wasn't cleaned for over a week at a time & functioned perfectly which is exactly why I love my Winchesters!!!

Anyway. I'll let a few pics tell the rest of the tale.

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Just received photos of the Jack O'Connor Tribute I ordered awhile back. After seeing about 20 of these, I'm pretty pleased. I actually got lucky getting one sight unseen that I probably would have picked myself if I saw it. Nice grain/fiddle on both side and nice contrasts to the wood.





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Here is my one and only...2008 limited 30-06
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Shot all 3 of these to fill my last 3 antler less whitetail tags during the last hour of our deer/elk season.
Nice wood on that 06'. Those 2008 limited edition guns are nice.
Thank you
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My 1950 Supergrade NIB with papers/tags-30-06
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1954 Standard 30-06 with Weaver K4 in Talleys.
My left-handed Model 70 stainless:

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A gone (but not forgotten) push-feed Wal-Fart Black Shadow Model 70 in .270 WCF. I added an H-S Precision stock picked up on sale at the now-defunct local Sportsman's Warehouse along with Williams bottom metal and a metal factory follower and new magazine spring. Trigger was reground and worked over by Simmons Gun Repair. It was heavy, but shot great.

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Even though I'm left-handed, I'm thinking more and more about getting a good pre-64 Model 70.
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Another Super Grade from the collection.
My .270 (top) and .458 pre-64 supergrades.

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I've always admired that 270 Cartod.
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I've always admired that 270 Cartod.
You have some very nice iron too.
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I know a terrible picture but we've all seen what a standard grade M70 looks like but the interesting thing about this one is that it's a standard grade 358Win without sights or sight dovetail cut. The only 358's Winchester ever listed were Featherwieghts.
Nice reelman. The dog knot looks a bit odd without a rear sight or filler in it.
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Here's another one of mine. This one is a transition era 257 Super Grade Carbine.
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Transition type III 22Hornet Carbine.
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Transition .375 with no provision for a rear sight and a low comb. This rifle has a Lyman 48 that the stock is cut out for. IMO this shows that Winchester did indeed send out rifles with cuts in it for the Lyman 48 because if this rifle was special ordered without a rear sight but still having a front sight wouldn't you think it also came with the peep sight?
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Second from the top is a 308 stainless Featherweight with a BOSS on it.

The glass stocked rifle is an FNA3G which is built on a controlled round M70 action.

The bottom rifle is my go to hunting rifle, a 1953 300H&H.
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I know a terrible picture but we've all seen what a standard grade M70 looks like but the interesting thing about this one is that it's a standard grade 358Win without sights or sight dovetail cut. The only 358's Winchester ever listed were Featherwieghts.
I have studied this model for 45 years and am constantly amazed at the unlisted oddities that are out in the world. I think I speak for myself and other when asking to see more pictures of this odd rifle.
Great bunch of rifles.
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Originally Posted by reelman
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I know a terrible picture but we've all seen what a standard grade M70 looks like but the interesting thing about this one is that it's a standard grade 358Win without sights or sight dovetail cut. The only 358's Winchester ever listed were Featherwieghts.
I have studied this model for 45 years and am constantly amazed at the unlisted oddities that are out in the world. I think I speak for myself and other when asking to see more pictures of this odd rifle.


The rifle is in a safe at my brothers house as mine are all full so I moved some over there but I really should get some better pictures of it although like I said it's a pretty normal looking standard grade except for the caliber and the no sights on it. It has a 24" barrel like a normal standard grade.
This one is in my dad's safe. It was my great grandpa's and he bought it to hunt Africa. Never got to go but his buddy took it to Africa and killed just about everything with it. Still has the scope base filler screws. Hopefully I'll get it handed down to me. It's a per-64 super grade 458 win mag.
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Verry nice buddy. Did they look at you funny after you took it out of the safe and started taking pictures of it grin. Pretty cool ol gun (made around early april of '57). Have you shot it?
No it hasn't been shot in probably 30 years. I'm not set up to load for it and factory ammo around here has always been $110-$120 a box and never wanted to spend that kind of money to just shoot it. I know my great grandpa killed a mulie with it in Colorado a long time ago. I might have to pick up some dies and brass and try to kill something with it next year!
Nice collection Reelman, and sharp looking Super Grade 458 Win Mag, DeerTracker! I'd shoot that bad boy.

Eric
Damn guys, this should be a sticky. When I started this thread, I hoped Rick Bin would make it one since it seems fitting. Well, I got bored and slapped my Stainless classic sporter 7mm Rem mag in my brown stone texture painted stock off of my 30-06 (new haven). I switched the scope out since I wanted something a little lighter and went with a leupold VX1 4-12x40 with long range duplex reticle. In all, my 7mm lost 1/2 a pound and looks better in the process. I'll bet she still shoots lights out too grin.....:
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From left to right: First year FWT (308 win) W/Nikon Monarch 2.5-10x42 in steel Talley mounts/rings, 1956 FWT 30-06 W/3.5-10x44 Zeiss Conquest in steel Talley mounts/rings, 1956 375 H&H W/Leupold VX3 1.5-5x20 and Leupold detachable rings, Stainless/syntetic classic sporter 7mm rem mag W/Leupold VX1 4-12x40 and LR duplex reticle in Talley lightweights, Sniper grey cerakoted 30-06 classic sporter in a custom left hand thumbhole stock with talley lightweights and Bausch and Lomb elite 4200 2.5-10x40, 2008 limited edition FWT W/Leupold VX3 3.5-10x40 W/CDS and Leupold DD's with 300 wsm Extreme Weather barrel slapped on for good measure, 30-06 Extreme Weather with Mcmillan hunters compact edge, talley lightweights and Leupold VX3 3.5-10x40 with CDS, FN PBR XP 300 WSM (New haven built) W/Nikon Monarch X Tactical 4-16x50 in TPS rings......All of these are excellent shooters and highly dependable. Nothing like a winchester model 70!!!!
Nice collection BSA. Whatever color that stock is looks sharp with SS.
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Damn guys, this should be a sticky. When I started this thread, I hoped Rick Bin would make it one since it seems fitting. Well, I got bored and slapped my Stainless classic sporter 7mm Rem mag in my brown stone texture painted stock off of my 30-06 (new haven). I switched the scope out since I wanted something a little lighter and went with a leupold VX1 4-12x40 with long range duplex reticle. In all, my 7mm lost 1/2 a pound and looks better in the process. I'll bet she still shoots lights out too grin.....:
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From left to right: First year FWT (308 win) W/Nikon Monarch 2.5-10x42 in steel Talley mounts/rings, 1956 FWT 30-06 W/3.5-10x44 Zeiss Conquest in steel Talley mounts/rings, 1956 375 H&H W/Leupold VX3 1.5-5x20 and Leupold detachable rings, Stainless/syntetic classic sporter 7mm rem mag W/Leupold VX1 4-12x40 and LR duplex reticle in Talley lightweights, Sniper grey cerakoted 30-06 classic sporter in a custom left hand thumbhole stock with talley lightweights and Bausch and Lomb elite 4200 2.5-10x40, 2008 limited edition FWT W/Leupold VX3 3.5-10x40 W/CDS and Leupold DD's with 300 wsm Extreme Weather barrel slapped on for good measure, 30-06 Extreme Weather with Mcmillan hunters compact edge, talley lightweights and Leupold VX3 3.5-10x40 with CDS, FN PBR XP 300 WSM (New haven built) W/Nikon Monarch X Tactical 4-16x50 in TPS rings......All of these are excellent shooters and highly dependable. Nothing like a winchester model 70!!!!


Nice rack!!! grin
A FN 308 in a B&C stock
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A 2006 Stainless Classic Sporter in 300 WSM.
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VERY nice collection, BSA!

Eric
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VERY nice collection, BSA!

Eric


Thanks buddy, I know the one I'm missing went to a great home though.... wink
Only one Model 70 currently, a .300 WSM set up for longish range hunting:

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A FN 308 in a B&C stock
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Nice collection. Is the FN a PBR?
1949 Standard model, .30-06. It wears a Lyman 4X in vintage steel Redfield Jr mounts. My favorite .30-06. It groups Remington 180 grain PSP Core Lokts into nice 3 round clusters. I'd like to have one just like it in .270, but with a 6X Lyman.
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1949 Standard model, .30-06. It wears a Lyman 4X in vintage steel Redfield Jr mounts. My favorite .30-06. It groups Remington 180 grain PSP Core Lokts into nice 3 round clusters. I'd like to have one just like it in .270, but with a 6X Lyman.
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Dang, this is a good thread. Lots of nice rifles posted here. I need to get a pic posted here soon of my faux extreme weather 22-250.
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Originally Posted by RGK
1949 Standard model, .30-06. It wears a Lyman 4X in vintage steel Redfield Jr mounts. My favorite .30-06. It groups Remington 180 grain PSP Core Lokts into nice 3 round clusters. I'd like to have one just like it in .270, but with a 6X Lyman.
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killer gun , very nice photo. Is it a keeper ,to you ?


Oh yes, it's a keeper! I've loved M70s since I was a kid. I'm left-handed, but this one will stay after the lefty bolts disappear. I'd like to find another like it, in .270. I will, eventually.
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Dang, this is a good thread. Lots of nice rifles posted here. I need to get a pic posted here soon of my faux extreme weather 22-250.

Oh hell man, don't leave us in suspense mad cry grin
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Originally Posted by winchesterpoor
Originally Posted by RGK
1949 Standard model, .30-06. It wears a Lyman 4X in vintage steel Redfield Jr mounts. My favorite .30-06. It groups Remington 180 grain PSP Core Lokts into nice 3 round clusters. I'd like to have one just like it in .270, but with a 6X Lyman.
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killer gun , very nice photo. Is it a keeper ,to you ?


Oh yes, it's a keeper! I've loved M70s since I was a kid. I'm left-handed, but this one will stay after the lefty bolts disappear. I'd like to find another like it, in .270. I will, eventually.
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That's a very nice rifle. Don't let these guys try to talk you out of it..It's for damn sure a keeper!!!
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I am little embarrassed about posting a lousy polaroid pic, but this was my first Model 70 and 7x57. Lot of fond memories with that gun. I purchased it used in 1968 before I got drafted and did not get a chance to bloody it until after I was discharged. Over in far distance lands my mind would go to that rifle many times.
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I purchased this custom stock about 2 years ago and recently found an XTR "European" FWT 6.5x55 at a gun show. It returned last week after finally getting bedded. It's a joy to handle, well balanced and a hair under 8lbs as pictured. I should have time to get it to the range tomorrow.

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Oh, that's a damn fine rifle right there!!
Thanks guys. I've been real excited about getting this one put together!
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Dang, this is a good thread. Lots of nice rifles posted here. I need to get a pic posted here soon of my faux extreme weather 22-250.

Oh hell man, don't leave us in suspense mad cry grin


I'm shooting it this weekend, so will snap a couple pics then. Also got a stainless classic 375 H&H on the way! grin
I changed the scope on my 375. Now I can see the FN target when it's out past 100 whistle....:

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Nothing special new haven stainless featherweight in a 325 wsm...

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Decide to get keep it? Nice rifle. How does it shoot?
Shoots okay
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Nice.

I'd rather have one of these than any comparably valued new rifle.
Here is one you guys may like, Im second owner, org owner was a Beechcraft pilot that had his FFL in CA, he ordered this one from Winchester custom shop in 1988, Sporter Varmint in 22-250 he shot it 9 times then sold it to me in 08. I have his order and all correspondence with winchester box and shipping sleeve all paperwork. The old gent sold it to me for exactly what he paid Winchester in 1988. The darn thing is super accurate with any ammo Ive tried and has shot several sub .5 using white box Win 45 gr stuff. Ive shot several crows but the wood is to nice to hunt, I do have a good plastic stock the I use with 2 other sporter varmints. not a very good photo but.
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I really like those SK mounts! It looks very clean.

Eric
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Eric


Eric, you need a set of those on the rifle you bought from me. That would look pretty fn good with the new scope too!!!
My NH Synthetic Super Grade 416 Remington. grin

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My NH Synthetic Super Grade 416 Remington. grin

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Very nice! How's the recoil? I never shot a rifle chambered in 416 Rem. before. Kill anything with it?
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Eric


Eric, you need a set of those on the rifle you bought from me. That would look pretty fn good with the new scope too!!!

I'd have to agree with that!
I know if they are not pre 64 they don't mean much to many guys but I am fond of this one I just picked up. .243 varmint just working on loads now.

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WSM, let us know how she shoots. That's a nice rifle...
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My NH Synthetic Super Grade 416 Remington. grin

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Very nice! How's the recoil? I never shot a rifle chambered in 416 Rem. before. Kill anything with it?


Recoil is fine loading 400 gr to 2200 fps, more is more which I am fine with but wonder the need. Can't see for more given what the old British SxS's achieved. It weighs just a click below 10# as shown, empty. We shall see. It is ~4 years away from killing what is was built for. Just planning my retirement...
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WSM, let us know how she shoots. That's a nice rifle...


Thank you Sir, Load development has been going slow but I have a few loads starting to show promise. 36 grains of IMR4064 under 87 grain V-max gave me a nice 3/8" three shot group. I like when they all touch and these just made it. Now to repeat it.

40 grains of IMR4895 and 70 grain Nosler BT's are showing promise and chronyed an average of 3328 fps today. Now this was only a 3 shot average. Wind got bad and I had a garden to get to.

I think I will bed the action and float the barrel as that has not been done yet. The guy I got this off of said it was a shooter but to tell the truth I am not sure he shot it more than a few times.
Damn, you got a good one!!! Good luck with bedding it if you do decide to go that route. It's probably factory "hot glue" bedded right now I'm assuming. They can shoot good from the factory that way but that stuff becomes a nightmare after a while. Better to take that crap out and get some good stuff like devcon 10110 in there.

Alot of times the factory bedding will crack and flake off and affect accuracy. I'm sure a lot of you guys have seen this kind of stuff before with the factory bedding:

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I'm going to go full circle here and post a '51 standard grade 30-06 that BSA sold me awhile back. I believe it's the same gun he posted at the start of this thread.

I recenty bought one of the new Zeiss HD5 3.5-15x42 scopes with the RapidZ 600 reticle for this rifle, and this was my first time using it. I like it!! This rifle is non finicky and drills with 165 gr Interlocks. I thought I'd try out a bunch of 150 gr loads to see what it likes and was really surpised at how well it liked Barnes 150 gr. TTSX. I know it doesn't count since it's a 3-shot group but I'll take it!! smile

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I'm going to go full circle here and post a '51 standard grade 30-06 that BSA sold me awhile back. I believe it's the same gun he posted at the start of this thread.

I recenty bought one of the new Zeiss HD5 3.5-15x42 scopes with the RapidZ 600 reticle for this rifle, and this was my first time using it. I like it!! This rifle is non finicky and drills with 165 gr Interlocks. I thought I'd try out a bunch of 150 gr loads to see what it likes and was really surpised at how well it liked Barnes 150 gr. TTSX. I know it doesn't count since it's a 3-shot group but I'll take it!! smile

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cry. Yep, it's the same one I posted in the beginning of this thread. I told you that sombeesh could shoot... Sorry to see you didn't feel confident enough to pull the trigger 2 more times.. grin laugh wink. That one is bedded right and it looks like it's got the right nut behind the butt grin.. Good shooting buddy!

Lawrence, I would have but I ran out of ammo. wink laugh

I wish I would have known you had $140 into this rifle. I could have had some extra beer money! lol.

Eric
I'll give you $150.00 for it grin
Hells no, the mojo factor on this rifle is now well past the $2K mark. cool
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Hells no, the mojo factor on this rifle is now well past the $2K mark. cool


I agree brother. It has so much mojo. You and I know that. Just something about running that rifle. A guy that owns a 300 H&H pre 64 model 70 told me he wished his fed as well as that one.. None of my new rifles even come close to comparing to that ol girl....Hey, it looks like the Brno is shooting lights out too..I'm going to have to get on the ball to catch up. My .830" group with the 260gr partition just got its azz kicked by your Brno cry
Yep, that rifle she does shoot.
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Originally Posted by EricM
Hells no, the mojo factor on this rifle is now well past the $2K mark. cool


I agree brother. It has so much mojo. You and I know that. Just something about running that rifle. A guy that owns a 300 H&H pre 64 model 70 told me he wished his fed as well as that one.. None of my new rifles even come close to comparing to that ol girl....Hey, it looks like the Brno is shooting lights out too..I'm going to have to get on the ball to catch up. My .830" group with the 260gr partition just got its azz kicked by your Brno cry

Yeah, .830" is soooo unsat! You need to step it up! wink

HCR shot a .333" group with the BRNO using 260 ABs. I think I could get there. I'd usually have 2 rounds touching, then a third a little off. Just need to nail that third shot.

I have a 1957 Win M70 standard grade in 375 H&H that is getting some work done to it. It will be cool to see how they compare once it's done!

Eric
Just picked up this NIB FN South Carolina made 2008 Limited Edition Model 70 Featherweight Deluxe in .270 Winchester. Pictures just don't capture just how nice this rifle really is. Nice figure up both sides and the butt portion is absolutely gorgeous on both sides. Seems to be about 6 1/2 lbs.

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Here is a seldom seen shot up the ying /yang of a mod 70 target in 30-06, Im not sure if its a 56' or 59' model. 4 groove no doubt. Winchester turned out some real barrels in those days !
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That's a beauty, but are you sure its the ying yang end.. whistle
Here are my pre64's. Left to right.

1960 Standard in 243win. Just found this one two months ago unfired without box.

1949 standard in 270win. I restocked this one last fall from a rough cut blank. I used all hand tools and fully bedded the entire action, barrel, magazine, tang, floorplate and trigger guard. She wears a Burris 4x in Leupy QR mounts and shoots 3/4 MOA.

1941 standard in 22hornet. This is my first model 70. Ground hog killer. Accurate as all get out even with just the Lyman 48.

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FNSPR in .308
Classic stainless in .243
Classic Stainless in 270
Classic Supergrade in .270
Classic Safari in .375H&H.
Hornet, is it an illusion or is the barrel on the 243 longer than on the other two rifles? Shouldn't all the rifles have 24" barrels on them? Nice job on the stock on the 270!

That 243 standard is kind of a rare gun as the majority of 243's were Featherweights.
Nope Reelman just an illusion. They are all 24 inchers.

Only the 35 rem, 300 sav, 7mm, and 250/3000 are rarer in a standard. I am very happy with the find. I have only seen one other standard for sale in .243, at Dave Riffle.
Don't forget about the 375 H&H in the standard barrel. There were only a handful of those made. And remember that those calibers you listed are MUCH rarer than the 243 standard. I've seen a couple 243 standards for sale but it seems that they never attain the price that their rarity should demand.
If anyone ever considers buying a rare Model 70 from Dave Riffle I would recommend a polygraph test on him first to make sure it wasn't put together from parts.
I guess I should get some pics of mine to post here...

My current "stable" holds a prewar 300H&H, 1949-vintage "shooter-grade" 30-06 (had a limbsaver installed, side-mount holes plugged, and stock cut out from the mount filled in...looks good, shoots great, but not a collector gun...but for the 5 bills I had to pay for it, it seemed a good deal. smile ), XTR featherweight in 257 Roberts, Classic DBM-S in 30-06, and an Extreme Weather in 300WSM.
Originally Posted by model70man
If anyone ever considers buying a rare Model 70 from Dave Riffle I would recommend a polygraph test on him first to make sure it wasn't put together from parts.


I don't know about Dave Riffle, but I would look at that type of activity the same way I view putting together 03 Springfields out of parts. As long as the numbers match up, and the parts are "correct", what's the problem?

Of course, altering Standard barrels to Carbines, re-stamping barrel dates, turning down barrels on a lathe to make a "Gopher Special", etc. is another matter entirely. Or, in the case of the 03, repro cartouches or air gauge stamps.
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Originally Posted by model70man
If anyone ever considers buying a rare Model 70 from Dave Riffle I would recommend a polygraph test on him first to make sure it wasn't put together from parts.


I don't know about Dave Riffle, but I would look at that type of activity the same way I view putting together 03 Springfields out of parts. As long as the numbers match up, and the parts are "correct", what's the problem?


Seriously? A "rare" rifle from parts?

You can have it.
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Originally Posted by 270Mag
Originally Posted by model70man
If anyone ever considers buying a rare Model 70 from Dave Riffle I would recommend a polygraph test on him first to make sure it wasn't put together from parts.


I don't know about Dave Riffle, but I would look at that type of activity the same way I view putting together 03 Springfields out of parts. As long as the numbers match up, and the parts are "correct", what's the problem?


Seriously? A "rare" rifle from parts?

You can have it.


Well, you selectively omitted that aspect of my original post, but perhaps I should have been clearer. I don't think there's anything wrong with swapping barrels around on Standard or FW rifles in common calibers like .270 or 30-06, as long as the barrel date matches the receiver s/n. Most of those rifles are not rare or particularly collectable. Taking a rare barrel off a receiver that's been buggered-up with sidemount holes and putting it on an unaltered receiver, for example, would be questionable. Even if the numbers matched. Reboring or rebarreling to a rare caliber and reproducing rollmarks, advertising a refin as original, etc. is unacceptable, as are the shenanigans I mentioned previously.
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Don't forget about the 375 H&H in the standard barrel. There were only a handful of those made. And remember that those calibers you listed are MUCH rarer than the 243 standard. I've seen a couple 243 standards for sale but it seems that they never attain the price that their rarity should demand.


True, there were only about (10) 375's made with a true standard weight barrel. The rest of the 375's in a standard rifle bore a medium heavy barrel contour, of which there were more of those in 375 than a 243.

Either way it is fun for me to look at a picture or pick up a rifle and "disect" the year, what is correct, what is wrong, etc... Makes it interesting for sure.
Here is a '57 375 H&H, in a McMillan stock. The barrel was cut to 21", express sights and barrel band added. It was recently cerakoted and I had the stock painted in a GAP camo scheme. The scope is a VX-6 1-6x24, which is a great match for this gun. It's bright and tack sharp, and I really like the illumination.

Eric

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Eric, that is one fine looking hunting rifle!!!!!!!!

I particularly like the scope and the stock. Good choices!
Thanks, Wapiti. I think it came together well. It's actually heading back home to AK, where it belongs. smile

Eric
Damn nice rifle, Eric. What pattern on the stock?
Bearstalker, thanks! It's GAP camo. McMillan's colors.

Eric
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Thanks, Wapiti. I think it came together well. It's actually heading back home to AK, where it belongs. smile

Eric


You selling it and keeping the Brno? That's a real nice rifle buddy..I want to go and shoot my 375 this weekend!!
That's right, BSA. I'd like to keep them both but I have a NULA to fund. It's a dangerous cycle!!! lol.
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Very nice!
Very FN nice grin whistle
Originally Posted by EricM
That's right, BSA. I'd like to keep them both but I have a NULA to fund. It's a dangerous cycle!!! lol.


Eric, here's my mean green shooting machine 30-06. Well atleast it shoots the el-cheapo win power points good grin

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It's good when you have two rifles chambered for the same cartridge shoot the same load equally well whistle...:
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I'll bet you, my old rifle that you have now would shoot this load just as well too (maybe even better)...
BSA, lookin' good and that GREEN MACHINE is a bold statement! I like it. Nice shooting as well.

What scopes are you using for both?

Eric
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I just got one of those too. I was impressed by the wood on it until I saw yours. Nice!
:-) thanks. I got lucky. It looks like Claro

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BSA, lookin' good and that GREEN MACHINE is a bold statement! I like it. Nice shooting as well.

What scopes are you using for both?

Eric


Hi Eric, I'm running a Leupy VX3 3.5-10x40 W/CDS on the green stocked '06 and a cheap ol Nikon buckmaster 3-9x40 on the fwt blush. I figure as long as it's shooting like that, I'm not changing a thing grin
BSA - Thanks! They match well with your rifles, and I agree - I wouldn't change a thing if they're shooting like that! I'll be running a VX3 3.5-10x40 w/ CDS on my NULA.

Eric
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:-) thanks. I got lucky. It looks like Claro

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I agree, nice figure on that stock!!

Eric
Nice to see that grade of wood on a factory rifle.
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Nice to see that grade of wood on a factory rifle.

Im thinking so many guns are done in synthetic stocks now a days that there is plenty of great black walnut to be had ! Im a die hard Winchester blue and wood guy but both my truck guns have plastic stocks, when I know a hunt might be wet I grab a win coyote lite and go, take it apart and wipe it off and good as new..
1994 Classic Stainless 30-06 in a Hogue stock under a 3.5-10x44 Zeiss Conquest.
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Well, mine isn't as nice as that, but it's one I've been wanting for a long time grin....:

Made in 1957 270 win fwt:

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Thats nice bsa I think mine is a 57 vintage. Very clean looking featherweight!
Not a .270....

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Thats nice bsa I think mine is a 57 vintage. Very clean looking featherweight!


Well thanks my freind. One of these days I'll have to get a nice stock on it like yours and whitebirds grin
BSA - Congrats on your 270 fwt. It looks very clean!! And obviously it's a shooter as well!!!

Whitebird - Tell us more about yours... I love that stock!! Man...!

Eric
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Not a .270....

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Wow Cliff. Let me know if you have any more nice stocks like that you are willing to part with..
A Winchester M 70 Super Grade .270 Win,bought it when Winchester started chambering standard cartridges in late 1991 or early 1992.IIRC

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My other Winchester M 70 Super Grade .338 Win Mag,found this one in El Paso. It has a 24"barrel,so thinking it was made between 1990-1993 before Winchester went to 26" barrels in 1994.

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Not a .270....

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that full stock is just gorgeous
Man that is a pretty chunk o' wood.... Here's a pic of my Plain Jane Hornet.
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Man that is a pretty chunk o' wood.... Here's a pic of my Plain Jane Hornet.
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Nothing wrong with that Hornet....
My newest Winchester,got it today.

Winchester M 70 Featherweight 7x57 Mauser.
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My newest Winchester,got it today.

Winchester M 70 Featherweight 7x57 Mauser.
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Oh, very nice!! Congrats, I hope it shoots as good as it looks. If that MOA trigger seems a little heavy you can always buy a spring kit from ernie the gunsmith and it takes a few minutes to install (very easy). It's well worth the price.
Mmmmmm! 7x57 , how can you go wrong.
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The trigger pull is 3-1/4 lbs and very nice.
Weaver bases and rings with a Leupold straight 6x. It weighs 7 lb 14 oz as seen in pic.

Took it out this morning and shot 175's that are loaded up for my CZ 7x57 and smile
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The trigger pull is 3-1/4 lbs and very nice.
Weaver bases and rings with a Leupold straight 6x. It weighs 7 lb 14 oz as seen in pic.

Took it out this morning and shot 175's that are loaded up for my CZ 7x57 and smile


Rings look a little high but that is a nice rifle. I'll have to get me a nice 7mm mauser one of these days...
This is my first 7x57 Mauser. CZ 550 American using CZ rings and a Zeiss 4x.
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Bought it in January of this year.

The rings are "medium" Weaver and they do look high,BUT,when shouldering the rifle the scope is perfect when mounted.
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BSA - Congrats on your 270 fwt. It looks very clean!! And obviously it's a shooter as well!!!

Whitebird - Tell us more about yours... I love that stock!! Man...!

Eric



Eric, thanks again for selling my scope back to me grin...I decided to put it on my new 270, also put my leupold DD's on too:

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It's nice to be able to slap a "proven" scope on it and not have to worry about it!!
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This is my first 7x57 Mauser. CZ 550 American using CZ rings and a Zeiss 4x.
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Bought it in January of this year.

The rings are "medium" Weaver and they do look high,BUT,when shouldering the rifle the scope is perfect when mounted.


Dang, someone snuck a lowly CZ into this thread grin wink
Better. laugh grin
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Better. laugh grin
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I like it!! However, I really like your CZ grin...Just giving you a hard time earlier as I have a very good older CZ 550 American in 9.3x62mm that I really like as well. It's a tack driving sob and takes elk down very well too grin..Your winchester model 70 375 is nice, is it a super express?
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I like it!! However, I really like your CZ grin...Just giving you a hard time earlier as I have a very good older CZ 550 American in 9.3x62mm that I really like as well. It's a tack driving sob and takes elk down very well too grin..Your winchester model 70 375 is nice, is it a super express?
Yes it is a super express,but this one is the "push feed" action. Think it was made in the late 70'or early 80's.

That CZ is the 3rd one that I've owned,the first was a .308,then a .416 Rigby,now the 7x57.
One of my coyote rifles Winchester M 70 Super Shadow .243 win.
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Do you guys find your Model 70's like fore end pressure? So far everyone I have had strings horizontal even after I free float it. I have to bed the tip with a touch of pressure to tighten it up. Only talking a couple guns here. But I know others who have had the same experience. Drives me nuts I tell you.
Originally Posted by WSM_Shooter
Do you guys find your Model 70's like fore end pressure? So far everyone I have had strings horizontal even after I free float it. I have to bed the tip with a touch of pressure to tighten it up. Only talking a couple guns here. But I know others who have had the same experience. Drives me nuts I tell you.



Are your rifles bedded and if so, how?
The M70 I am shooting now is my 1957 Varmint model that was a 243. They came with a heavy 26" SS barrel.

I wore it out and got an original Winchester SS barrel in 220 Swift. This is a standard weight 26" SS barrel.

Thus it's 'free floating' and then some in that stock.

I checked it's zero the other day and it hit right on at 200 yards.

That's the most important thing to me in a hunting rifle. Hitting right on with the first shot.
BSA,
The first M70 I had, and still have, Would not shoot until it was glass bedded with fore end pressure. Just free floating it would not help. My .243 with the heavy Barrel is not bedded but it is not giving me the horizontal stringing. My 30-06 I just bedded the fore end tonight. I have see others at the range with the same trouble. Guns looked like Winchester left wood in the fore end for pressure but the barrel would move from side to side. I have not had this happen with Remington's. Just wondered if it is a Winchester thing.
Not that I'm aware of. Most of mine are freefloated and shoot great. However, they are "properly" bedded as well, which gets back to my original question: How are yours bedded?
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Do you guys find your Model 70's like fore end pressure? So far everyone I have had strings horizontal even after I free float it. I have to bed the tip with a touch of pressure to tighten it up. Only talking a couple guns here. But I know others who have had the same experience. Drives me nuts I tell you.


On occasion I have run into this issue with the FW barrel; of my current Featherweights my 1953 M70FW in .308 WIN has the standard factory bedding, shoots great, on the other hand my 1963 M70FW in .270 WIN (Douglas barrel) needs about 10 lbs. of upward pressure glassed into the fore-end, shoots great now (that way only).
BSA,
My first one is totally glassed. The Varmint model is factory and the 30-06 I am working on is factory. The wear marks on the bluing indicate movement on the fore end of the barrel. I know this is a bedding issue but I do not believe it is a receiver bedding issue. That is why I asked if others have experienced this. Last night I bedded the fore end with slight pressure to simulate what the shim did. I will see if that solves the issue. I know a complete glass job will but I believe it may not be necessary. Winchesters are the only rifles that have been fussy like this for me.
WSM shooter, I have a hard time trusting factory bedding (especially the NH hot glue type):

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Now let me pick apart what you wrote in your post: "The wear marks on the bluing indicate movement on the fore end of the barrel". That right there tells me you need to freefloat it more and bed the recoil lug and tang of your receiver. Kind of like this:

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I'm not going to show pictures of groups (again), but let me reassure you my winchesters shoot better than any remington I've ever had..Your rifle sounds like it it loose in the stock and the barrel slapping against the forend of the stock will undoubtedly cause flyers, horizontal and probably more than anything vertical stringing....Furthermore, by bedding the forend with upward pressure you are just puting a bandaid on it and not fixing the problem. There are a lot of tricks you can do with bedding and winchesters react to different types of bedding procedures just like any rifle does. If you need further assistance, please feel free to pm me and I can share more details on what works and what doesn't work with them wink...By the way, I have one sitting in bedding compound right now and it is freefloated all the way out and I know it will be a good shooter when I'm done.

I think I like my first bansner grin:
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BSA,
Thanks for the tips. I have already done the fore end bedding and will test it hopefully tomorrow. The wear marks were from before I free floated. My rifle is from 1975 and is steel to wood, no glue in bedding. Not saying glass won't help and I will do it if I must but I hate bedding. I am a pig when it comes to epoxy. I can tape the whole stock and I will still get it someplace I don't want it. If it ends up needing a full bedding job I will have my smith do it once I am back to work. We all must know our limitations.
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I like that!

Eric
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I think I like my first bansner grin:
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I like that!

Eric


Thanks buddy. Hey, since you're here maybe you can explain to some of these guys how a "properly" bedded winchester model 70 shoots wink grin
BSA, you got it!

'51 30-06 Standard Grade, bedded by BSA.

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BSA, you got it!

'51 30-06 Standard Grade, bedded by BSA.

Eric

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Thanks Eric. That's the rifle that started this thread.I pillar bedded it, bedded 3/4" under the chamber area and floated the rest of the barrel (despite it having the barrel boss for rear sight and screw) and accraglassed the barrel channel. It's a consistent sub moa shooter. My 1956 30-06 fwt shoots almost as well so I decided to sell this std wt to Eric and I'm glad he's taking good care of it and even takes it hunting grin
This one is being pillar bedded,bedding the recoil lug and free-floating the barrel.
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elkhunternm, how does it shoot now?
Just sent it off last week and it'll be awhile before I get it back.
I meant it to mean how did it shoot originally?
blush It would put 2 shots together and the 3rd high and right. Tried free-floating and a shim under the action behind the recoil lug,it shot a little better,but not much.
BSA

I found a couple of pics that I had taken of the pre-64 model 70 in 30-06 that ALLEGEDLY was stocked by Beisen.

Obviously not Fleur-De-Lis.

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Yup, living in BC, but, close (165 miles) to Spokane,WA. home of the Biesens, I have seen several "stocked by" rifles that were NOT "real" Biesen's.

I had a Biesen Fwt. 270, in autumn, 1968, and some older friends had other Biesen's, all P-64s. The fellow who sold it to me regreted doing so and pestered me until I sold it back to him and I never bought another.

Agree, I don't think that is a Biesen stock.
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Yup, living in BC, but, close (165 miles) to Spokane,WA. home of the Biesens, I have seen several "stocked by" rifles that were NOT "real" Biesen's.

I had a Biesen Fwt. 270, in autumn, 1968, and some older friends had other Biesen's, all P-64s. The fellow who sold it to me regreted doing so and pestered me until I sold it back to him and I never bought another.

Agree, I don't think that is a Biesen stock.


I think I agree with these 2 good guys. Just doesn't look like any Biesen I've ever seen....
My model 70 started out life as an Oberndorf type B sporter with a flat bolt handle.

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So his father had a Winchester barrel in 30/06 installed. Barrel dated 1961.
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Sorry to disappoint. But it's the closest I have to a model 70..
No disappointment,still a sawwweeeetttt firearm. smile
my Extreme Weather SS got a new McMillan Winchester Hunter stock - this is Saturday's 5 shot group at 300 meters - pic of the gun will follow smile

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fiftyfive, I'd like to see that but I can't.

Hamburg, I dance the dance of delicious anticipation. Please tell some along with the photo.
That's what I was thinking too. Leaving us in suspense....
Sorry for that, I kinda forgot...pics will follow! laugh
Started as a Winchester 70 Extreme Weather Stainless Steel in .30-06

Modifications:
- McMillan Winchester Hunter stock as the factory stock was way too short for me (liked it otherwise)
- Timney trigger
- Cerakote coated

Outdoor Pics will follow - heavy rainfall today frown

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Cool picture. Nice to see the old 30-06 is still adequate.
Yeah,but just barely. wink laugh
Here's a pic of my latest Mod. 70 EW, 270 Win., just recently bedded in an edge. I just shot it this morning, testing out some loads. Hopefully I'll have it dialed in at 200yds in the morning.

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Here's a pic of my latest Mod. 70 EW, 270 Win., just recently bedded in an edge. I just shot it this morning, testing out some loads. Hopefully I'll have it dialed in at 200yds in the morning.

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Damn, that thing shoots almost as good as the tang safety Ruger m77 270 win I just sold wink grin...Looking good brother!!
HaHa! Ain't nothing wrong with a Ruger either. I still pine for a couple I sold in the past..

But...I sure do like this stock...wish I had the money for it..I'd like to drop a 7WSM EW in it..

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Here's a pic of a real slick pre 64 , 338 Win. I used to own. A good friend of mine has it now. It used to belong to Bill Williamson, Fair Chase Safaris. Someone had cut the barrel to 23" which actually made it real handy. I had it sighted in with Federal 210gr Nosler partitions and the old gun would shoot 1 1/4" with those. No telling where that gun has been.

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I like that stock too. A 7mm wsm won't fit in that long action bugger though shocked
Whoops...that's right..:(
Sendero, here's what you need for a short (WSM) action:

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I've bought from USPatriot and he's good to go as well. Heck of a nice guy to do business with...
Oh well....I was at the range yesterday and could not duplicate the groups I posted for my EW. cry Thought I had it nailed down but NO!!

I have a different scope on it now so I'll try that.
Good luck buddy!!
Well, I bought a sweet std wt 30-06 yesterday. Figured I'd show and tell that one too blush It's a last year pre 64 (1963) and I'll tell you, quality is susposed to be low on these. I call BS on that. They must of been having a great day that day when this one went out the door grin. Quality is very nice (see pics):

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The first time I saw this rifle (more than a year ago) I almost bought it, but put it in my back pocket (back of my mind) because I bought my 9.3x62mm from the guy instead. This one is all original except for the pachmayr decelerator installed frown...Pretty dang clean though, the pictures don't do it justice...
BSA - Now that you have a new std weight you have no need for the fwt that's taking up so much room. Right...? Let me help you with that. wink

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Eric, I was wondering what you were going to say about this one. How about we do a straight across trade for that crappy shooting one I sold you laugh grin
BSA, your new std weight looks clean. I hope it shoots as well as mine! lol. laugh laugh grin

Seriously, congrats! cool

Let us know how it shoots!

Eric
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BSA, your new std weight looks clean. I hope it shoots as well as mine! lol. laugh laugh grin

Seriously, congrats! cool

Let us know how it shoots!

Eric


Ha ha, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. I don't think there's another pre 64 30-06 this side of the Mississippi that shoots as good as yours grin. I can't wait to see it in action this year on your antelope hunt. That is if you still plan on using it.
Nice pre 64, looking forward to a range report. Congrats
Thanks buddy. I think I'll leave this one the way it is. The barrel channel and inletting is just about perfect. However, that may change and I might go wild on it like I did with EricM's rifle. I put a chit load of time into that one. Pillar bedded/glass bedded and freefloated the barrel and still kept it looking almost original to the unsuspecting eye. His is a shooter to say the least and some of my better work:

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(Epoxied in this dummie forend screw, for looks)

His rifle shot like this for me:
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After I sold Eric my std wt 30-06 I went to work on getting my fwt 30-06 to shoot. I just bedded it without pillars and it shoots pretty good too:
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It's a shooting sombitch even with elcheapo bullets grin......Yeah, maybe I'll atleast bed the new std wt wink
BSA - Showoff!! cool

I plan to take the '06 to WY this year. No doubt about it. Also going to take a 375 H&H and a NULA 257 Wby.

Eric
Bsa, wow beautiful job! Now where do I send my pre 64? grin
Here is a picture of the Model 71 that I picked up today. It is an all original, short tang, standard rifle, but is in about 98% condition. It was manufactured in 1939.

Have a look.

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cry grin cool...Gunna have to change your name to DonsM71 wink
Hey BSA!

I know where there is 1938, long tang carbine for sale.

It's a little too rich for my blood, but thought YOU might be interested. wink

donsm70
I already have a 1937 that I looooooooove grin...I know mine isn't a carbine, but it suits me just fine grin ..Thanks for thinking of me though wink
Don, that's a VERY clean looking '39! Good find!!

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Thanks Eric.

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All you guys snagging up the 71's are killing me!!! Very nice rifle donsm70!
Thanks Matt.

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Ok guys,

I have been looking at this topic until my account was approved so now I can put up a couple of mine.......

Hope you enloy,
Mark.

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Sporter in 9.3X62....
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Jack O'Connor....
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Ok guys,

I have been looking at this topic until my account was approved so now I can put up a couple of mine.......

Hope you enloy,
Mark.

Safari Classic in 416RM....
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Sporter in 9.3X62....
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Awesome rifles! You have exquisite taste...
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All you guys snagging up the 71's are killing me!!! Very nice rifle donsm70!




What, this old thing?:
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Finally got some ammo for the old girl and she shoots great. Thanks blackdog1 for the great deal on the ammo. I owe you one now grin
Pre 64 Standard 30/06 courtesy of our own BSA. I picked it up today and mounted the scope in some pretty cool old Redfield rings BSA donated. I'm proud of it and look forward to shooting and hunting the old rifle. I have horrible lighting for taking pictures indoors but did manage one decent enough to see it. I'll have to get a few outdoors asap. The rifle fits like a glove too!
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Pre 64 Standard 30/06 courtesy of our own BSA. I picked it up today and mounted the scope in some pretty cool old Redfield rings BSA donated. I'm proud of it and look forward to shooting and hunting the old rifle. I have horrible lighting for taking pictures indoors but did manage one decent enough to see it. I'll have to get a few outdoors asap. The rifle fits like a glove too!
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Looks great with that 2.5-8 Leupold buddy. I can't wait for the range report. It should shoot lights out for you. I'm proud to be able to pass on the good deal to a friend like you!!!!I know you will take good care of that rifle, it's a good one.....
Outstanding trigger job too. Finish looks real good, hard to tell in my pictures but it does bring out the wood. A real nice shooter which by the way is exactly what I wanted. Length of pull was spot on. wink
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Nice rigs there DBLTAP!
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Nice...

Is that an FN 6.5x55?
Couldn't resist........just had it sent to my local store. Cabelas Limited Edition Lightweight Supergrade in 7x57. Sucker for nice wood on a great caliber.

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Very nice!
That sucker is nice!
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Thanks guys! Waiting for a couple 2.5-8 VX III to hit the mail box and ill finally have ready to go







Nice rigs there DBLTAP!
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Couldn't resist........just had it sent to my local store. Cabelas Limited Edition Lightweight Supergrade in 7x57. Sucker for nice wood on a great caliber.

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That's a beautiful rifle. I had a new supergrade in my hands last weekend and I think they need to do something with that funky colored extractor. It sticks out like a sore thumb sick
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Couldn't resist........just had it sent to my local store. Cabelas Limited Edition Lightweight Supergrade in 7x57. Sucker for nice wood on a great caliber.

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that is awesome and I love the caliber!!
Alright, here's my latest find. 1959 Alaskan 338 win mag. It's in very good condition, but has been pillar/glass bedded and whoever did it did a damn fine job. I will re-do the barrel channel eventually. I'm pretty sure it's going to be a shooter:

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Trigger's adjusted to 2.5 pounds and it's ready to shoot!! Check this bedding out guys:
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Like I said, I'l re-do the barrel channel, but that's pretty easy to do...
Nice find.
Thanks buddy, It kind of looks like your 30-06 doesn't it. Pad and all grin
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Your checkering is better. grin And the Alaskan came with a pad.

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See, I told you. It's almost your fwt's twin. If it makes you feel any better, that isn't the original pad on the Alaskan.
That doesn't make me feel any better. And this rifle find deserves a big "You suck!" grin
Well I bedded the barrel channel yesterday and freefloated it from the recoil lug out. Kind of like I did with the std wt I sold to EricM. Here's how she turned out:

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I loaded up some 225gr. Hornady sp interlocks last night and took her out for a test drive today. Brass was new so load development for accuracy was kind of a moot point. However, Now I know a few things: The rifle functioned flawlessly, it's showing good potential for accuracy, and I don't like shooting in the damn rain and wind!!!!!:

First group fired with ol betsy's (my old faithful Ruger m77 mkII) pet load of 67gr. IMR4350 and 250gr. sierra gameking bullet. I used these bullets to get the scope adjusted. This was the actual first group fired with the '59 Alaskan (scope was not dialed in at this point):
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Here are some of the other groups shot today:
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Shows some pretty good potential I think....It should do better next time out with some fireformed brass. Hopefully the weather is more cooperative as well. I think I'm going to love this ol girl grin
Looks good bsa, get it ready for elk next year!
Ole 'Carlos' got to bark late today, 168 gr winchester black box BT's, 170 ish yds,never stopped walking, the SW GA rut has started, this last cold front,low got the peters hard !!
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Awesome buddy!!!! Congrats to you and "Carlos H".....Nice buck too!!
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Looks good bsa, get it ready for elk next year!



Thanks buddy. I have over 11 months to get her ready. Hopefully it doesn't take me that long laugh
BSA, congrats on your 338 Alaskan. One of my favorite pre-64 calibers! Too cool! cool

I need to find your pre-64 source!!! whistle

It looks like a real find. The few mods probably saved you from paying much more for collector's value. Your bedding work looks great and I'm sure with time and load workup it will be performing just like your 30-06 fwt. The groups look very promising!

Eric
Ive never shot a .338 win mag but my father in law used one to take an elk in Wyoming in the mid 60's. He was impressed with the mod 70 and the cal. He felt it was the perfect elk gun, His sister was head of Game and Fish for the state back then. Some way I got hold of a 338 win mag cartridge and I have rolled it over and dreamed of elk,moose and big bear many times. You guys out west get to enjoy an awe full lot or great country. My wife just corrected me this hunt happened in the 70's and Doc's sister Francine Osborne was a director on Game and Fish board. very best
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Well I bedded the barrel channel yesterday and freefloated it from the recoil lug out. Kind of like I did with the std wt I sold to EricM. Here's how she turned out:

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I loaded up some 225gr. Hornady sp interlocks last night and took her out for a test drive today. Brass was new so load development for accuracy was kind of a moot point. However, Now I know a few things: The rifle functioned flawlessly, it's showing good potential for accuracy, and I don't like shooting in the damn rain and wind!!!!!:

First group fired with ol betsy's (my old faithful Ruger m77 mkII) pet load of 67gr. IMR4350 and 250gr. sierra gameking bullet. I used these bullets to get the scope adjusted. This was the actual first group fired with the '59 Alaskan (scope was not dialed in at this point):
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Shows some pretty good potential I think....It should do better next time out with some fireformed brass. Hopefully the weather is more cooperative as well. I think I'm going to love this ol girl grin

BSA, Do you take in any work or just buy em , bed and tune to suit you and sell em if you already have one? I learned early on with cattle,airplanes and guns that if you have the right 'no excuses . cattle,plane or gun they will dam near 'sell themselves' . Good looking bed and seal job, Ive been wanting to find something good to seal my barrel channels with. Any suggestions on sealers?
My unmolested barrel channels get custom pro oil or regular ol tru oil. That usually seals them up tight after a couple coats. This 338 barrel channel was kind of hacked on (see previous pics), so I just used a quick set epoxy on it. The guy that owned it before me did a fantastic job on the bedding under the receiver, so I'm kinda glad I don't have to do it myself. I feel it's almost imperative to glass bed these magnum/heavy kickers. If you don't, you run the risk of the stock splitting. A collector who doesn't use/shoot their rifles will probably strongly dissagree, but I use my rifles, so that's how I roll.. To answer your first question: Let me think about that one grin
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BSA, congrats on your 338 Alaskan. One of my favorite pre-64 calibers! Too cool! cool

I need to find your pre-64 source!!! whistle

It looks like a real find. The few mods probably saved you from paying much more for collector's value. Your bedding work looks great and I'm sure with time and load workup it will be performing just like your 30-06 fwt. The groups look very promising!

Eric


Thanks buddy. I threw that old burris on her since I know it's a proven scope. It worked very well on the std wt I sold to you. Thanks for selling that scope back to me grin..
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Looks good bsa, get it ready for elk next year!



Your loads are too low, use H-4350-70-250NP, same brass/primer and 72.5 with 225 grs.

Go to RE-22, the rifle will take 77 grs. under the 250 NP, my Dakota shoots bugholes with this, but, I drop to 76 in my four of these old Alaskans and they USUALLY do UNDER MOA.

These rifles were intended to shoot BIG GAME, with BIG BULLETS and to not be "babied".

Maybe, you just better send it to me, as I have some 47 years with these and know how to "stroke" them....... wink
Hey Kute ol buddy. 71 gr's is book max for the Hornady 225's. I don't mind going over that to get better accuracy. But once I see pressure signs, I'll be backing off a bit. There's a big difference in the Hornady and Nosler bullets, damn sure can't substitute one for the other or you might end up with pieces of rifle instead of 1 good rifle. I've been doing this for a while too buddy.
Here is one of my FN made M70's on a 2 day hunt in public land in NC.

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This one has been in here more than once, but it IS kinda nice, and it's "correct" for the period. M70 standard grade from '49, with steel Redfield Jr mounts and an older Lyman 4X. I'm putting the same scope and mounts on a '52 .270 standard I just bought...stay tuned for the pix. I really like this combo for a vintage 70.
Bob

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Alright, here's my latest find. 1959 Alaskan 338 win mag. It's in very good condition, but has been pillar/glass bedded and whoever did it did a damn fine job. I will re-do the barrel channel eventually. I'm pretty sure it's going to be a shooter:


As usual your stuff has me drooling
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This one has been in here more than once, but it IS kinda nice, and it's "correct" for the period. M70 standard grade from '49, with steel Redfield Jr mounts and an older Lyman 4X. I'm putting the same scope and mounts on a '52 .270 standard I just bought...stay tuned for the pix. I really like this combo for a vintage 70.
Bob

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RGK , That is as good as it gets, I am in need of that very base and rings , if you have any extra please PM me. very best
stock options: I have fwt crf 280. original stock was cut to 12.5" LOP with thick pad, but it's a little short for me. Action is bedded and barrel floated; shoots rem 150g consistently around 1" 3 shot groups. Should I have spacer added to lengthen LOP (ugly) or get new stock (maybe synthetic)?
Just buy a different stock. Many options of good synthetics out there like Mcmillan, Bansner (High tech specialties), Borden Rimrock/pacific research, Brown precision, or you could find a take off wood or factory tupperware for it. Ebay and CDNN usually have many to choose from. I'm assuming yours is an older New Haven CRF "Classic", which will require the 2 piece bottom metal and LA (long action) stock.
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stock options: I have fwt crf 280. original stock was cut to 12.5" LOP with thick pad, but it's a little short for me. Action is bedded and barrel floated; shoots rem 150g consistently around 1" 3 shot groups. Should I have spacer added to lengthen LOP (ugly) or get new stock (maybe synthetic)?


McMillan compact edge.
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Its hard to best the Varminter, old school that shoots as good as it looks. Mine loves the fed 70 gr BT ammo It has shot to 1 1/4 " @ 300 yards on a bluebird day. What year is yours ? very best
Here is a nice little deer slayer..

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Yowza, Whitebird! Very nice 257 SG! What year is it?

Eric
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Yowza, Whitebird! Very nice 257 SG! What year is it?

Eric


I think 1954...
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Originally Posted by EricM
Yowza, Whitebird! Very nice 257 SG! What year is it?

Eric


I think 1954...


LOVE the straight-stocked M70s...and that one is awesome!
Bob
Damn, that is nice.
My favorite thread on the fire period!Mr Whitebirds mod 70 are always killer and THAT gun really clicks my bic. Keep em coming. Mr Whitebird I can tell you started collecting mod 70's many many moons ago. great photo as well, you have folks in the cemetery? very best
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My favorite thread on the fire period!Mr Whitebirds mod 70 are always killer and THAT gun really clicks my bic. Keep em coming. Mr Whitebird I can tell you started collecting mod 70's many many moons ago. great photo as well, you have folks in the cemetery? very best


No cemetery... just a garden plot with an iron fence around it in an effort to keep the elk and deer and bunny wabbits out... Thanks for the kind words.
Mr Whitebird, I'm in extreme SW GA and we just do not have those vistas and views, we are beautiful and green ,as a retired pilot I got to see it all here after 10660 hrs cropdusting. Some one picked out a fantastic place for a garden and was pretty well heeled to fence it with that kind of fence. very best, I enjoy your photos! win poor
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Mr Whitebird, I'm in extreme SW GA and we just do not have those vistas and views, we are beautiful and green ,as a retired pilot I got to see it all here after 10660 hrs cropdusting. Some one picked out a fantastic place for a garden and was pretty well heeled to fence it with that kind of fence. very best, I enjoy your photos! win poor


Well, at 6,500' elevation I have not completely figured out gardening. A mid July hail storm wiped my garden out... will try again next year. Might have to dig a few more out of the safe and take some more pictures....
I've fallen in love with the deerslayer, can I take any more?
Flip back thru this thread and you will see some heart stoppers, Eric M had a National Match Super Grade in a Sporter stock. Killer gun and very hard to come by! That is but one example many,many more, Mr Whitebirds stuff will have you slobbering like a mad dog! very best
This has been one of the most enjoyable threads I've been exposed to on any gun forum. Great photos of great guns, along with some knowledge and expert commentary on those guns. Keep it coming.
Bob
I finally got my 24" 30-06 back from bedding and swapped scopes around. I don't think the vortex viper will live long term on the 06 due to the reticle seems to be thin enough to fade away at last light. I really like the VX2 2-7x33 on my 7-08 20" Compact!! Really fits that rifle perfect. Next is checking for level good enough for what I can do with what I have, bore sight and hit the range when I can. Thought I'd share my 2 big game set ups.

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Newest M 70,a Winchester RMEF Shot Show special.

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I'm new to the campfire as far as posting, but I've been gleaning information for a couple months. Had a little trouble with logins for a while, but seem to be firing on all cylinders now.

I figured I'd post a little eye candy to introduce myself. This is kind of a cross between "show your model 70's" and "what did you get this year".

Hope you all likey.
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What I believe to be a 1961 version. .264 Win Mag in pristine condition. Deciding on scope.

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Starting to get the hang of it with posting pics. little more .264 Win Mag eye candy.

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LD, nice rifles there, welcome to the forum and thanks for putting up the pics....



If you don't mind me asking. Who did the refinishing on that stock? That's a beauty! Welcome to the fire. Nice to have another Winchester lover here.
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Since I'm seriously considering a stock refinish on my newest M70, I'd like to know, too. Awesome looking M70.
Bob
I know someone that does pre 64 model 70 stocks similar to that and they are a thing of beauty. Far better than anything that came off the factory floor. He re-cuts the checkering as well and is a true artist. I can't give out his name though. I consider him a good friend and don't want to break that bond wink
Fellas,
I also want more "facts" about this fine piece of art I've been charged with its stewardship. But, I'm also searching for the nitty gritty detail. The previous owner was a young dealer I was blessed to deal with. Good guy, but not great about gathering details. That's ok. We'll figure it out here. smile

This is no Featherweight, as you all already know. I love the feedback here, and will bust my a$$ to help with identification or work done. I have been all over this rifle and my personal opinion is:
1. I don't give a rat'$ ass if someone says the barrel has been reblued. That's all good!! in my favor..
2. I don't think this rifle has been fired... much.. ever.
3. If you disagree with me on #2, I don't care. I have my opinion and reasons for saying that.
4. Yes, the stock finish is mesmerizing.. and I also think it's refinished. But, why?? I just don't know what went on there, myself. However, I'd love to watch it done again! I don't think it's original. But, they didn't make many of them, so could be some hybrids I don't know about.

I love the feedback here. Keep it up fellas!

LD

Someone put some time into this one. There's some minor details that I see that tells me this. Beautiful rifle my friend and I wouldn't care if it's been professionally refinished either. You have a keeper and I'd hang on to it. A good buddy of mine once asked me, why would a nice refinish like this actually depreciate the value of a fine firearm? I didn't have much to say except. I wish they came out of the factory like that!!!!!
Got this one today.
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Nice fwt, hope it shoots atleast 1/2 as good as mine laugh....55-58? Which is it?
Think it's a '55. The first three numbers are 334.
April of 1955. Awesome man. The first year of the 30-06 fwt. Nice snag there and I truly meant it when I said I hope it shoots at least 1/2 as good as mine laugh. After I got mine, I realized I didn't need my new Extreme Weather 30-06 or my other 30-06 sick. I love mine!!!
Thanks BSA,I looked and figured it was early 1955. The bore on this rifle is like a mirror ie whom ever owned it did not shot it much. Right now going to use the iron sights and when I get some money,I'll get Talley's and either a 4x or 6x scope for it. smile
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Someone put some time into this one. There's some minor details that I see that tells me this. Beautiful rifle my friend and I wouldn't care if it's been professionally refinished either. You have a keeper and I'd hang on to it. A good buddy of mine once asked me, why would a nice refinish like this actually depreciate the value of a fine firearm? I didn't have much to say except. I wish they came out of the factory like that!!!!!


Thank you, bsa. I've enjoyed many of your posts here at the campfire, a number of which helped lead me to this rifle. I t would take some effort by me to push this fine rifle out of the top bracket of all that I've ever owned. I plan on being its proud steward for some time.
I found out this morning from the dealer I bought my .264 Win Mag from that no prior history on my rifle was available. He bought it from an estate sale in northern Missouri and didn't remember the name of the estate.

Sorry, Fellas. I was really hoping I could get a little more info from the dealer. If anybody has any ideas about how to sleuth it further, I'm all ears.
Good thread bump, hope to add some pics again soon
tdn, you've had some beauties. You need to start treating them like your own children, not foster kids laugh..However, I look forward to seeing more of what you bring to the table. You never know, I might buy the next one you sell laugh
Well, I have a few "last rifles" in the works. So hopefully something to show soon. Nothing too fancy, I just dig those NH Classics.
I like them, but not as much as my pre 64's. However, they are extremely accurate and function flawlessly, so what's not to like? grin ..I've thought about selling my New Haven classic sporter 30-06 many times, but know I would kick myself in the azz so hard if that ever happened!! I like hunting my New havens and my SS classic 7mm rem mag is the one I grab when the shots are going to be long.
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
...I've thought about selling my New Haven classic sporter 30-06 many times, but know I would kick myself in the azz so hard if that ever happened!! I like hunting my New havens and my SS classic 7mm rem mag is the one I grab when the shots are going to be long.


We then, it sounds like you will like what I have brewin - i will get some pics when things are all together in a few weeks!
Sound great buddy. I'm hoping it's a good shooter too. Gotta keep those Tikka owners on their toes laugh
Hhmmmm I'm intrigued do I need to start saving money?
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I like them, but not as much as my pre 64's. However, they are extremely accurate and function flawlessly, so what's not to like? grin ..I've thought about selling my New Haven classic sporter 30-06 many times, but know I would kick myself in the azz so hard if that ever happened!! I like hunting my New havens and my SS classic 7mm rem mag is the one I grab when the shots are going to be long.


I need to find a classic sporter in a 25-06
With all the talk of the Swedes lately, I figured I'd post this ole' thing.

Classic Featherweight Stainless 6.5X55.

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With all the talk of the Swedes lately, I figured I'd post this ole' thing.

Classic Featherweight Stainless 6.5X55.

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Man that is a sweet looking rifle!
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Originally Posted by fordisto
With all the talk of the Swedes lately, I figured I'd post this ole' thing.

Classic Featherweight Stainless 6.5X55.

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Man that is a sweet looking rifle!



That's the motherlode of sweetness!!!!
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Hhmmmm I'm intrigued do I need to start saving money?


Well yes, DUH.. laugh
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Originally Posted by 79S
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With all the talk of the Swedes lately, I figured I'd post this ole' thing.

Classic Featherweight Stainless 6.5X55.

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Man that is a sweet looking rifle!



That's the motherlode of sweetness!!!!


Almost as sweet as my Ruger round top! smirk
Hey, that round top is a dandy rifle for sure. I'll agree, and it's a good shooter too!!! Now why did I ever sell it???? laugh blush
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Originally Posted by 79S
Hhmmmm I'm intrigued do I need to start saving money?


Well yes, DUH.. laugh


Come on guys - I am trying to stop selling guns here grin
Well I went and took some decent pictures of my model 70's the other day.
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BACO SC model 70 325 wsm this thing is a shooter
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Well I went and took some decent pictures of my model 70's the other day...


You need a bigger camera. wink
Originally Posted by 79S
Well I went and took some decent pictures of my model 70's the other day.
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laugh...How many of those did you buy from TDN??? wink
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Originally Posted by 79S
Well I went and took some decent pictures of my model 70's the other day...


You need a bigger camera. wink


If you click on the picture it takes you to photobucket then click on the magnifying glass in the lower corner of the picture it will bring the picture up then double click on it and you will see the full size picture.
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Originally Posted by 79S
Well I went and took some decent pictures of my model 70's the other day.
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laugh...How many of those did you buy from TDN??? wink


The 06 I bought off TDN went a buddy who wants to build a 338-06 I sold it to him with no mark up, the 7 wsm I bought from TDN went to another bud who wanted a 7 wsm sold it to him for what I gave TDN for it plus shipping. The 375 H&H was nib never shot it was bought by a school teacher in Alaska who had intentions of hunting bears and other critters well he never went hunting so he sold it to the fella I bought it off of. The stainless 270 wsm is a gunlist buy, one the smoothest deals I ever had bought from a fella in Montana. the 7 WSM I bought at Gander mtn. The 270 weatherby I bought off a member here on the forums.
What is it with the 5 digit M70 Classics? Are they the new collectibles these days?
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What is it with the 5 digit M70 Classics? Are they the new collectibles these days?


Folks out their consider them some of the best built model 70's well right behind the pre-64's due to them being the first ones off the new tooling at the New haven plant.
Ahh....79 thanks for the explanation.
This is a great thread. Let's keep it going with more pics of some nice old Winchester model 70's. Here's my latest: A 1981 XTR fwt 270win. I bought it a couple weeks ago and it was never fired by the original owner. Factory fired and still had the packing grease in it and original box. Don't worry guys, I took care of the firing part the other day. I'm sure I'll take it on many more range sessions and probably even a few hunts:

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Scoped with an older American made Burris FFII 3-9x40 with ballistic plex reticle in Leupold dual dovetail gloss low mounts and rings. After consulting with 79s here, I decided to snag this one.
Yah, it's brand new!
Well, it was "unfired" until I got a hold of it laugh
Cool looking rifle bsa, I like the mounts.

Here's one I've been playing with. A supergrade Win. 70 in 338 WM.
It's ser. # G166XX, anyone know the approx. date of manufacture?

It's a nice shooter with the 210 TSX's but I haven't had any luck with the partitions...210's or 250's. Yet.....
Scoped with a Burris 3x9 E1.

I bedded the lug, tuned the trigger and it doesn't show in the pic but I've since installed a Williams extractor.

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Very nice rifle Sendero. Looks like an excellent shooter too. 5 digit classic is probably a '92-'93 DOM rifle.


Another low comb. This is a 220 Swift that I picked up in Kalispell at the March gun show. It was made in 1951 and I prefer pre 1952 guns, if I can get them. Still the later low comb guns are keepers. It has the Lyman All American 6X scope on it and although I like later scopes, I am going to see if this will work well enough to keep that vintage scope on the gun...

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Shrapnel, I really like that swift. Very nice looking package...
This is still by far my favorite thread ! I joined the fire after spending half a night looking at fine guns on this thread, WTF does Photobucket drop photos over time? that sucks! I will try and ad a few babydolls today if I can edit out my toes! very best WinPoor
I look forward to seeing those "baby dolls". I mean the rifles, not the feet/toes laugh
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No toes, but not the best photos, 52' std SS barrel 220 Swift with a 10X unertl vulture, I plan on shooting this on side by side with a 59' swift in the Varminter that is a tackdriver, This gun was bought by a long time 70 guy new in 52, scoped and zeroed and sat in a safe till I bought it. the fellow got very old and knew it was time to pass the guns on. I hope I know when that time comes, I hope this one can go into the 'Do not sale' safe! very best WinPoor
How about some M70s chambered for H&H rounds?

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Those are gorgeous DMD!! Love the 375.

When I get back home this week, I will take some pics of the herd.

Thanks, Hornet. The .375 supposedly has been fired 12 times, which believe from its condition.
Guys I am anything but a braggart BUT i I am very proud, I worked very hard 7 to 9 mos a year sunup to sundown cropdusting and running a biz + cattle, I would buy myself a gun a year, I traded thru many to get here and it took well over 40 years to put these together.
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all are pre 64' 70' one 53 custom in 25-06 and an 88' custom shop 22-250 + my first deer gun an early 50' mod 94....These are the do not sell case till I cannot go anymore! very best WinPoor
Very nice. Looks like I have some catching up to do. I should change my name to REALLY win poor laugh
DMD, I really like your 300s! smile

Winpoor, you have a great, and well earned collection! What is the rifle that is 3rd from the Right? I dig the tiger stripes!

Cheers,

Eric
its an 88' Custom shop 22-250 a pilot pal, Beechcraft dealer with an FFL special ordered back in 87, I have shipping sleeve, box, order form, Custom shop letter and all correspondence with the custom shop, it has Beuler or Burris. rings, the gun was scoped and 9 rounds fired to zero. Im not sure who made barrel but it was lead lapped as was the action hand honed, I have shot the gun maybe 25 times with 5 factory ammos, with the white box 45 gr ammo it shot a 5 shot 1/4 " 100 yard group, it may wel be most accurate gun I have ever shot bar none! The old gent found out he had cancer or was sick and sold me the gun for exactly what he had in it in 88' 1100 or 1200 bucks.I could tell he really hated to part with it.He even sent the box of ammo he zeroed with ,including the 8 or 9 empty hulls. The wood is fantastic, he ordered the action matte like the older pre 64 guns. It is a very special, well documented piece that I treat with kid gloves when I shoot it ! very best WinPoor
Wow, what a cool and interesting rifle Winpoor. If you ever get a wild hair and decide you'd like to sell please let me know. I could make some room. wink

Best,
Eric
WP: sounds like a cool rifle. just curious. Is the trigger on the custom shop 88 as bad as the standard triggers?
Beautiful rifles! Man, mine look like pallet lumber compared to most.

Here is my look alike M71..

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A couple of the Model 70's.

My only Pre64, the 338WM

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7x57 Mauser

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7mm WSM

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35 Newton

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My old 7mm Rem Mag and 35 Newton

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Again, very awesome Winchesters!
Looking Good Scotty.

I had forgot about the 25/06
Nice lineup Beretzs!
DMD/WinPoor: Nice rifles!
Originally Posted by southtexas
WP: sounds like a cool rifle. just curious. Is the trigger on the custom shop 88 as bad as the standard triggers?

All my mod 70's have nice triggers, I have a 100 and a 490 that I wish I could tune the triggers a bit.WinPoor
Originally Posted by pre6422hornet
Looking Good Scotty.

I had forgot about the 25/06


That's Lori's rifle.

Here's my two. The top one is just a plain-Jane '63 270 WCF with a period Lyman All-American 6x scope, my Jack O'Connor rifle. The bottom one is a much newer XTR Classic Sporter also 270 bore but this one's a 270 Weatherby with a Leupold VX-III 2-8. Both are great shooters.

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Great pair Yooper! I dig them both!
Here are my pre 64's. Just added the 300H&H yesterday.

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22 Hornet, 243 win, 270 win, 300H&H, 338 winmag, and 375H&H.

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Here's some recent ones of my battered 1952 .270 standard grade. It wears an older 4X Lyman in vintage Redfield Jr steel mounts. My current "favorite". It groups plain old Rem Core-Lokts into the magical one-inch range most of the time. It's not tuned, bedded, lightened, refinished or messed-with. This one is growing on me, despite my preference for straight-stocked .30-06 M70s. I have a lot of rifles, but this one (along with a .30-06 M70) would easily fill all my hunting needs. I have a couple of extra minty 4X Lymans set aside, just in case. A true classic.
Bob

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Lots of field use, but no abuse. Varnish is still pretty much intact.
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Older Lyman 4X scope, probably from the late '50's or early '60's. Optics are still clear and sharp. Reticle is post and crosshair.
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Here are my pre 64's. Just added the 300H&H yesterday.

L-R

22 Hornet, 243 win, 270 win, 300H&H, 338 winmag, and 375H&H.

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Damn Pat! Now that is a line up right there!
My lowly push feed in .300 H&H Mag, one of the first push feeds done in H&H in 1988 as a limited run for Wammes Corporation (now Acusport). They offered a standard and a Safari Grade, this one is the latter.
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My new (to me), as yet unfired .358 STA...
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A couple of dandies right there! Gorgeous.
Indeed!
I agree, very nice pair!!!
This thread just gets better and better! Nice ones, fellas!!

Eric
Not a Winchester,but a Springfield 1903 .30-06.

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Originally Posted by SCGunNut
My lowly push feed in .300 H&H Mag, one of the first push feeds done in H&H in 1988 as a limited run for Wammes Corporation (now Acusport). They offered a standard and a Safari Grade, this one is the latter.
My new (to me), as yet unfired .358 STA...


Those are a beautiful pair of rifles. I really like that 358 STA though! What an animal!
Originally Posted by southtexas
WP: sounds like a cool rifle. just curious. Is the trigger on the custom shop 88 as bad as the standard triggers?

I have never had a bad pre 64 trigger, I guess I am lucky, I usually am able to tune them myself but I have a smith in Tallahassee FL, Mark Rains that will super tune one that I cannot, he is a PRO I leave stoning the sear to him. very best WinPoor
My experience is the same as yours with M70's (pre or post), but every 88 have had or tried had a very mushy trigger, and from what I have read, very few 'smiths can help them much. Just wondering if the 88's from the custom shop had triggers that were any better.
The win model 100's had crappy triggers too..
Originally Posted by Sendero
Cool looking rifle bsa, I like the mounts.

Here's one I've been playing with. A supergrade Win. 70 in 338 WM.
It's ser. # G166XX, anyone know the approx. date of manufacture?

It's a nice shooter with the 210 TSX's but I haven't had any luck with the partitions...210's or 250's. Yet.....
Scoped with a Burris 3x9 E1.

I bedded the lug, tuned the trigger and it doesn't show in the pic but I've since installed a Williams extractor.

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That's a nice looking rifle! The finish on that stock (looks like hand rubbed) looks exactly like my Sako 75 Hunter .270 Win.
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DMD, those are beauties..
Originally Posted by southtexas
My experience is the same as yours with M70's (pre or post), but every 88 have had or tried had a very mushy trigger, and from what I have read, very few 'smiths can help them much. Just wondering if the 88's from the custom shop had triggers that were any better.

I must not have been clear on my post,photos. I have never owned a Win mod 88, I do have a mod 100 in 308 and I lucked out there as I zeroed after scoping 3 model 100's of the 3 mine had the best trigger by far,Im betting luck of the draw as the other 2 were pure grunters! I also have my FIL's mod 490, the mod 100's baby brother in .22 lr. They were made or put together in Canada for just a year or 3, fantastic .22's with a big rifle feel BUT they too have grunter triggers that my smith says that there is very little he can do to tune or help, that is a shame as mine has a fantastic barrel and the only thing keeping it from shooting with KIDD 10-22's is the trigger! Maybe I cleared things up, I think you were referring to a Custom shop Sporter Varmint mod 70 in 22-250 that was born in 1988. very best WinPoor
This thread is by far my favorite, my only problem is photobucket has deleted some fantastic guns! v best WinPoor
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Originally Posted by southtexas
My experience is the same as yours with M70's (pre or post), but every 88 have had or tried had a very mushy trigger, and from what I have read, very few 'smiths can help them much. Just wondering if the 88's from the custom shop had triggers that were any better.

I must not have been clear on my post,photos. I have never owned a Win mod 88, I do have a mod 100 in 308 and I lucked out there as I zeroed after scoping 3 model 100's of the 3 mine had the best trigger by far,Im betting luck of the draw as the other 2 were pure grunters! I also have my FIL's mod 490, the mod 100's baby brother in .22 lr. They were made or put together in Canada for just a year or 3, fantastic .22's with a big rifle feel BUT they too have grunter triggers that my smith says that there is very little he can do to tune or help, that is a shame as mine has a fantastic barrel and the only thing keeping it from shooting with KIDD 10-22's is the trigger! Maybe I cleared things up, I think you were referring to a Custom shop Sporter Varmint mod 70 in 22-250 that was born in 1988. very best WinPoor



My mistake. Went back and re-read your post. 88 was the year it was made, not the model #.
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Originally Posted by DesertMuleDeer
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DMD, those are beauties..

+1. At the rate he's going, he'll have more rifles than shrapnel and whitebird..
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This thread is by far my favorite, my only problem is photobucket has deleted some fantastic guns! v best WinPoor



Mine too. However, photobucket doesn't delete these pics, the posters do. It's a great reference for me when I'm scratching my head trying to decide which scope mount and scope to throw on my rifle. I'm having that dilemma right now. I guess that can be a new topic all together sick
Here is one you don't see often..... .270 Factory Stainless Barrel.

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Here's my recent purchase. '51 Supergrade in 30-06, swivels and original sling. Barrels a bit worn and it took me 6 different projectiles to find what she really liked. Hornady 150gr interlocks go under an inch. Has a really nice 'seen some use' patina.
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Super Grade is a nice find.
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Super Grade is a nice find.

+1....
Wow, I dig that Super Grade! Good score!
Thanks for the comments guys. I really like how the right hand side of the butt- the blond wood sunbursts on that side then fades back to dark. Really cool. It came with Redfield two piece bases and blind screw rings. I might try and find a one piece base though as I think it may look better with the small objective bell on my 4x33 Leupold.

Anyone got some shots of a similar set-up on their mod 70??
Frst, are you asking if we have any pics of model 70's with the 1 piece base and leupold 4x scope? I don't think I do, but some of the other guys here might.
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Frst, are you asking if we have any pics of model 70's with the 1 piece base and leupold 4x scope? I don't think I do, but some of the other guys here might.


Yeh spot on bsa!
I think I'd give an eye tooth for a pre-64 in 35 Whelen.
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Frst, are you asking if we have any pics of model 70's with the 1 piece base and leupold 4x scope? I don't think I do, but some of the other guys here might.


Here's about as close as I can come...one piece Redfield base and rings with a Lyman 4X scope.
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Thanks Bob, that gives me a good idea of what it will look like.
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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Frst, are you asking if we have any pics of model 70's with the 1 piece base and leupold 4x scope? I don't think I do, but some of the other guys here might.


Here's about as close as I can come...one piece Redfield base and rings with a Lyman 4X scope.
Bob

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I really like that set-up Bob. I know I've already told you that, but it looks great. Nice and vintage, pretty clean ol rifle!!
Thanks BSA! Here's one of my '52 .270 standard grade...same set up.
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Alright, I stated this thread so I'm going to show you guys the Winchester model 70's I still have in the stable. I guess I'll list them from smallest caliber to largest:

1. Winchshester (WRA made in 1980) XTR 270 fwt with Burris 3-9x40 with ballistic plex reticle in Leupold dual dovetail mounts and rings (lows). Winchester hadn't made a fwt for 17 years (1963). When this one came out in 1981, many Winchester collectors swarmed to purchase these:
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2. 1957 (pre 64) 270 fwt in Mcmillan hunters compact stock with 1" red pachmayr decelerator recoil pad, Leupold dual dovetail mounts and rings (mediums), and Zeiss Terra 3-9x42:
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3. 5 digit stainless classic sporter 7mm rem mag, in painted and bedded factory Tupperware stock, Leupold dual dovetail mounts and rings (lows), and Nikon 4.5-14x40 with side focus scope:
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4. 1956 30-06 fwt, original stock, Leupold dual dovetail mounts and rings (lows), Burris FFII 2-7x35 with ballistic plex reticle scope:
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5. 6 digit classic sporter 30-06, cerakoted sniper grey, painted and bedded Tupperware stock. At the moment, it isn't wearing rings or bases and has no scope. I'm thinking about sending it in to JES for a rebore to 9.3x62mm.....:
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6. 2008 limited edition fwt 300 wsm, FN BACO manufacture, EW tube, Talley lightweight lows (93702), Nikon Monarch 2.5-10x42 scope, Ernie's trigger spring (2 3/8 pound pull):
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7. 1959 338 win mag (Alaskan), Leupold dual dovetail mounts and rings (lows), Burris FFII 3-9x40, pillar and glass bedded factory stock:
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8. 1956 375 H&H with newer (1963) dual crossbolt stock, Leupold PRW mounts and rings, Zeiss conquest 3.5-10x44 scope:
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That about rounds out my model 70 collection. Thanks to everyone who has posted pics of their wonderful model 70's. It's a great reference for me as well as others here. Have a great weekend!!!

Nice rack! smile
Awesome! I particularly like the '56 Featherweight in '06.
Bob
Thanks Bob. It is one of my favorites as well. After I bought that rifle, I sold 2 of my other Model 70 30-06's.. I'm extremely grateful that the other 06's went to good homes (EricM and 444Matt)..
Love that Super Grade 30-06, FRST!

BSA, drooling over your collection. And they all are shooters!

Eric
Great bunch of rifles BSA. You should be very proud of them. I like em all.
Great Collection, I really like #5. What kind of paint and color did you use on that Rifle? I am currently waiting on my latest build to come home and that looks very close too the color thinking of for mine!!! Thanks Karry
RGK: Very nice!
Originally Posted by KLM300
Great Collection, I really like #5. What kind of paint and color did you use on that Rifle? I am currently waiting on my latest build to come home and that looks very close too the color thinking of for mine!!! Thanks Karry


Thanks Karry. I went cheap on the finish: Rustoleum stone mineral brown texture paint. I went over that with a few coats of matte clear. It's holding up surprisingly well..
My 2013 M70 30-06 with 24" sporter barrel. Talley Ligjtweight Lows with Leupold VX3 3.5-10x44 all inside a McMillan Hunter with 13" LOP.

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That's a "do it all" rifle right there buddy...
It weighs in at 8.5lb so it won't weigh you down. Next project I predict will be to find an OD Edge in a short action.
I like that. Colors turned out well on the stock!
I want to get an orange and black swirly for my 375 cool
Hard to go wrong with that combo!

Eric
FN Model 70 in 7x57 with Leupold 2.5-8X with DD rings and mounts.

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My dreaded 1965 vintage 70 in the ill fated .225 Win. Yeah, it is ugly but it'll shoot 1/2" with factory ammo all day long...
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Cool .225 Winchester. You don't see those everyday...
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FN Model 70 in 7x57 with Leupold 2.5-8X with DD rings and mounts.

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Nice...............
Originally Posted by SCGunNut
My dreaded 1965 vintage 70 in the ill fated .225 Win. Yeah, it is ugly but it'll shoot 1/2" with factory ammo all day long...
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Nice...........
1953 308 Featherweight,
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Nice set, Augie! That is really fantastic wood on your '54 for a standard grade!

Eric
Very nice pair of rifles. Those two look real clean.
I agree. I also really like the grain in the std wt...
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CRF Winchester 70 Classic Stainless .375 H&H magnum in McMillan McCamo Supergrade stock, magnum fill, Williams one piece bottom metal IIRC. Leupold FXII 4x33mm in Warne QD rings, Burris bases.
Beautiful 375! That's a rifle that's meant to hunt.
Darn, Augie. You had to start with that.. smile

Fine sticks, sir.
A pair of 94's.. Made about WW2 I believe.. One the top was my Dad's. It is a 32 special.. The other is a .30-30 that belonged to a neighbor.. I bought it from his sister went he passed on..

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Beautiful pair of lever guns. Those are sweet!
Thanks.. Hunted with that neighbor for several years when I was about 15...
Here's a Featherweight .30-06. Finally paid it off today!

It has a ol' Redfield with either a 1/4 or 1/2 minute dot.

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Nice fwt, I thought you already had a 30-06 fwt????? The one with the bland looking stock... That one will do it all my friend...
I do have another Featherweight .30-06. Actually resisted this one for a month,then I held it,worked the action,put it up to my shoulder and that was it SOLD! smile
Ha ha. Trust me, your other one would be extremely sweet if you tried one of these:


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You'll have a problem picking which one you want to take out though cry
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I do have another Featherweight .30-06. Actually resisted this one for a month,then I held it,worked the action,put it up to my shoulder and that was it SOLD! smile


It's a beauty. It looks an awful lot like my 338 Alaskan. The stock could be it's twin...
Thanks BSA.

As far as a McMillan stock,well right now gonna leave them as they are. But the one in the above pic is saaaawwwweeeeettttt. smile

I think all these pre 64 model 70's are saweeeeeeeeettt!!! Even the ones with most of the bluing worn off!!!! They are all good...
This is my Alaskan with a McMillan Pre64 Monte Carlo


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Scotty, is that stock brown or grey? It looks kind of grey on my screen. What do you think of the stock? It looks good my friend and will be quite a but stronger than your factory stock. Much more resilient to the harsh weather during elk season too.
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Scotty, is that stock brown or grey? It looks kind of grey on my screen. What do you think of the stock? It looks good my friend and will be quite a but stronger than your factory stock. Much more resilient to the harsh weather during elk season too.


BSA, it is grey. It isn't actually my stock. Had a good friend that had it collecting dust, so he lent me this stock till mine comes in from McMillan. My wood stock was getting kinda whooped on with the crack in the tang, so I just decided to take it off before I destroy it beyond repair. The McMillan in the picture is bedded in the recoil lug area (his). I had to remove just a touch of material in order to get mine in there, but once I did, it fit nice and snug.

Turned in a good 3 shot group at 200, at least good enough for me with my hunting load. This was shot with a loop sling on the ground, so I am sure they would do better off the bench, but I am just about worn out on bench work for this year.

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Although I will have PT's for the rifle, I am hoping to use the 225 BBC this Fall.. They shoot within the same group.

I actually just ordered some 225 Speers in order to practice with. I haven't been able to get 225 PT's from SPS, so for now, I am hoping the 225 Speers will work for practice..

Nice rifle!
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Nice rifle!


Thank you. It is my primary elk rifle. Wife got it for me for our 10 year anniversary just as I returned from #7 to AFG. I can't find a good reason most of the time to not use it.
This one's only about 1/4 Model 70 now. Started life as a Featherweight Classic 280 Rem BOSS. Replaced the stock with a Boyds Prairie Hunter and threw on a 23'' Bartlein.

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Latest build, my first Winchester:

New Haven M70 Classic Stainless, .300WSM
Refinished factory synthetic stock in Krylon "aged iron" textured
Talley lows
Leupold VX1 3-9x40
Montana 1.25" sling w/ Uncle Mikes swivels

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Originally Posted by Jwood1284
Latest build, my first Winchester:

New Haven M70 Classic Stainless, .300WSM
Refinished factory synthetic stock in Krylon "aged iron" textured
Talley lows
Leupold VX1 3-9x40
Montana 1.25" sling w/ Uncle Mikes swivels

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Nice!
What's the barrel length JW? Looks great to me.
24" factory sporter barrel
I have a 30-06 with factory 24" sporter barrel. To me it isn't really too long at all.
This is a damn good thread. Anyone else care to post some pics of their new model 70's? I know Razz has a new 338 Alaskan that he may want to post pictures of here. Bump this one along..
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
This is a damn good thread. Anyone else care to post some pics of their new model 70's? I know Razz has a new 338 Alaskan that he may want to post pictures of here. Bump this one along..


I got one coming up. Will post pics once it's all back together.

7mm-08 SuperGrade. I've killed two deer with it and i get more enamored with it evrytine i carry it. It's a bit heavy( according to those that "know" on here). But it hangs on target well and is more than a little attractive


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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
This is a damn good thread. Anyone else care to post some pics of their new model 70's? I know Razz has a new 338 Alaskan that he may want to post pictures of here. Bump this one along..


I got one coming up. Will post pics once it's all back together.


I have one in parts and pieces right now too. grin.
Originally Posted by gitem_12

7mm-08 SuperGrade. I've killed two deer with it and i get more enamored with it evrytine i carry it. It's a bit heavy( according to those that "know" on here). But it hangs on target well and is more than a little attractive


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Nice supergrade gitem. It shows class to hunt a rifle like that..
I've started a journel about each gun I have and where they have been, why I bought them and i cluding some memorable hunts, etc. it will be passed to my daughter
Stand by for photos of my new Cabelas 7mm Mauser Supergrade lightweight...shooting it today. I mounted a spare Meopta 3-9X in Talley steel lows for range testing. I was going to put a fixed 4X on it, but the Meopta is soooo nice. Rifle, scope and mounts weigh 8.6 lbs empty. And yes, this is an awesome thread!
Bob
One day I will own a model 70 like you guys for now have settle for my ruger American
Originally Posted by 79S
One day I will own a model 70 like you guys for now have settle for my ruger American


I've heard Ruger American's are pretty good, if you like that sort of thing... I hope you find a nice pre 64 model 70 one of these days. There out there. I've heard there are tons of them in Alaska since it is the state rifle there.. Good luck in your search..
Originally Posted by local_dirt
I found out this morning from the dealer I bought my .264 Win Mag from that no prior history on my rifle was available. He bought it from an estate sale in northern Missouri and didn't remember the name of the estate.

Sorry, Fellas. I was really hoping I could get a little more info from the dealer. If anybody has any ideas about how to sleuth it further, I'm all ears.


I wouldn't be too hasty to say that Westerner has been re-finished.
I've got a brother to that one with pretty much the same type of finish.
Like yours it's seen very little use. Pictures up soon so we can compare.
POPGUN, I'd love to take a look at some pics of yours.
At work now but I'll try and get some posted before the weekend.
I'll put it along side a 338 Alaskan which I suspect has been refinished.
Also the serial number so we can see how far apart they are in build dates.
Mine has the stainless barrel.
Here is my 1958 Alaskan in 338. Just picked it up on Thursday, it came with a Bushnell Scope Chief and will soon be wearing a Leupold, thinking 2.5 - 8 x 36 but may go 3-9 x 40 depending on how they fit and look.

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Very cool 338 Alaskan Razz. Let us know when you refinish it if you decide to got that route. Everyone needs a good Alaskan along with a 30-06 and maybe a 375 H&H laugh cool
Razz, I'm running a 3.5-10x40 VX-III on my M70FW now - it fits well and looks well on the rifle.
Thanks Odessa!
BSA, that is my intent right after the hoildays.
Found a pic of my other pre 64, 1959 vintage 30-06 that is on permanent loan to my son. He said I am welcome to shoot it anytime I come visit up in Wyoming. Oh, and I am welcome to send up more reloads anytime!
He loaned it to his roommate and sent me a picture, sorry there is an elk crowding up the photo! Can you tell by the smile it is his buddies first elk?

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Very cool. I love pictures like that!!!! Thanks for sharing and tell that young man congratulations...
Nice rifle, but I like your porch even better, not many nice porces in the state of NM...
Here's my recently-purchased 7X57mm Cabela's M70 Supergrade lightweight. I rather like it. After getting it on paper, I zeroed with 140 grain Hornady factory. I'll try some other stuff next week. So far, so good.
Bob

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I put a 3-9X Meopta on in low steel Talleys. I was going to change to a 4X later, but I may leave it on. Big, but a nice scope.
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Nice, dark wood. Nothing exceptional, but even-colored and figured on both sides. I'm happy.
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Bob, that is a sweet looking package. It really came together with those talley steels and meopta. Looks like it's going to be a excellent shooter too. You have great taste in rifles buddy..
Bob...glad you posted a picture of that beauty. You did really well based on what you told me in your PM. Looks like it shoots as well as it looks!
Originally Posted by Wacenturion
Bob...glad you posted a picture of that beauty. You did really well based on what you told me in your PM. Looks like it shoots as well as it looks!


Thanks! I owe you for the heads-up. I'm really liking this rifle...and I'm left-handed. I wouldn't feel too sorry for myself if this was my only centerfire.
Bob
Nice looking set up. I like the target too!
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This is a good shot.
Bob, congrats on your new rifle and great shooting!! Looks like a keeper!! smile

Eric
Getting mine well enjoyed this season. smile

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Getting mine well enjoyed this season. smile

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Awesome picture Brian. Must be an I phone. The picture quality of the new phones is extraordinary....I wish my digital camera took as good of pictures as that!!!!
You are correct! Iphone. If the light is right you can get some impressive shots. If the light isn't the best they can still stink for sure.
Alright, this seems like the right place to put a picture of my new rifle, even though I started a thread on beautifying it already grin. I call this one my "elk killin machine":

Pre 64 model 70 (1954) H&H magnum receiver chambered in 338 win mag. Custom stainless barrel, Custom cerakoted midnight blue and bolt jeweled by a local Smith, 3-9x36 Swarovski Habicht, Talley lightweight lows, butler creek flip up on the objective, factory trigger, glass bedded by some guy named BSA, aluminum bottom metal, brown precision stock painted brown with red decelerator recoil pad. Rifle holds 4 in the magazine and weighs right at 8 pounds loaded and ready to go:

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Shoots alright. Here are the first 2 groups I shot with this rifle after getting it all put together:
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Wind was blowing that day, but I'm not making any excuses grin. Rifle functions perfectly and is ready for elk hunting in 2015!!!!! Let's see some more of your awesome model 70's!!! This is the thread for it grin
Originally Posted by blgoode
You are correct! Iphone. If the light is right you can get some impressive shots. If the light isn't the best they can still stink for sure.


Thanks Brian. I thought it was an I phone. Pretty outstanding. That is a sweet rifle. I like how you have it set up..
I tried to have this rifle in the sweet spot between being light enough to not be an issue and heavier than a "light weight" setup. I don't have a decent scale but from my bathroom scale with me holding it, then weighing me it sits at 9lbs. 24" barreled 30-06 in sporter contour. 13" LOP. It's noticibly heavier than my compact featherweight but not really an issue in real world use. Now my father inlaws 12lb 80's Browning it too much weight in my opinion.
Just picked up this '41 30-Govt-06. She's pretty original except for a tapped rear bridge and missing front sight hood. (Where can you get those by the way?)
Anyhow she likes 150gr Interlocks just like my Supergrade '06 and this was the first three shot group she turned once sighted in. Very happy as the pre-war was the one I've always been keen on and pre 64's are super hard to come by down here.
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I like to think that maybe she came over with a 2nd Division Marine before they took on the japs during WW2 but you never know!
Originally Posted by FRST
Just picked up this '41 30-Govt-06. She's pretty original except for a tapped rear bridge and missing front sight hood. (Where can you get those by the way?)
Anyhow she likes 150gr Interlocks just like my Supergrade '06 and this was the first three shot group she turned once sighted in. Very happy as the pre-war was the one I've always been keen on and pre 64's are super hard to come by down here.
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Very cool all the way around. Pre 64 in New Zealand, looks awesome and shoots awesome. Those groups also need to go on the thread I started, titled "first group impressions of your new to you model 70's":

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Your SG is also a very nice rifle. Thanks for sharing...
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Alright, this seems like the right place to put a picture of my new rifle, even though I started a thread on beautifying it already grin. I call this one my "elk killin machine":

Pre 64 model 70 (1954) H&H magnum receiver chambered in 338 win mag. Custom stainless barrel, Custom cerakoted midnight blue and bolt jeweled by a local Smith, 3-9x36 Swarovski Habicht, Talley lightweight lows, butler creek flip up on the objective, factory trigger, glass bedded by some guy named BSA, aluminum bottom metal, brown precision stock painted brown with red decelerator recoil pad. Rifle holds 4 in the magazine and weighs right at 8 pounds loaded and ready to go:

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Shoots alright. Here are the first 2 groups I shot with this rifle after getting it all put together:
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Wind was blowing that day, but I'm not making any excuses grin. Rifle functions perfectly and is ready for elk hunting in 2015!!!!! Let's see some more of your awesome model 70's!!! This is the thread for it grin

AWESOME setup, although you need to work on that group! lol. laugh

Eric
Originally Posted by FRST
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I like to think that maybe she came over with a 2nd Division Marine before they took on the japs during WW2 but you never know!

Very classy, and nice shooting with those 150 gr Interlocks!!!
Dammit, I'll have to go out tomorrow. I have some loads worked up for this rifle. We'll see what she can really do. laugh
I really like how it came together, BSA. Really well thought out, and at 8 lbs shooting .5" groups... [clapping]. smile

Eric
Thanks Eric. You'd like this one. I think you'll really like the other one with the wood stock too. grin
I have no doubt, BSA!! grin

I wish I had it here with me in Africa now! Could do some damage. lol.

Eric
Ha ha.. I'll bet it would. cool
New guys or old guys with new Christmas presents, post some pictures of your model 70's. I don't care if they are pushfeed XTR fwt's or pre 64's. Let's see them. Open a free photobucket account and start showing off some of your nice model 70's. We aren't prejudice, just a little partial sometimes laugh. These guys know I'm partial to pre 64's, but hell, the new FN's are looking good too. Post them up!!!
While this is now on its way to a new home, this Classic was good to me this past Fall:

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It made it! Looking forward to carrying on the "Legend"!
Beautiful rifle. I'm surprised you let that one go!!!!
Congrats tdn, nice buck!! smile
Nice looking rifle and buck TDN, and a great snag for you Sako. I really like the SS classics. They have always caught my attention!!

Reno
I also like the SS classics. Really the best of both worlds.
Some real nice model 70's on here
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Slavek, have you come to the dark side?
I have never left. My first firearm was a Winchester and my last one will be a Winchester.
Okay Slavek its a 52 or later.... give some details man!!!
So you just beat up on the collectors every so often to try to keep the prices down?
The Riflemans Rifle.
Originally Posted by pre6422hornet
Okay Slavek its a 52 or later.... give some details man!!!


It appears to be a '59 or newer and from the crappy picture, looks to be a 300 H&H. I'll guess 1961 on the DOM... Hard to tell. Am I close??
Slavek, what's the story on that one? You got everybody in suspense. WTF smile
I do not wish to sound like a broken record. It's the only hunting rifle I own. I have two different scope for it. It was made in ca. 1959.


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If you're only going to own one I can't imagine much better of a choice than the one you have.
My left hand stainless classic in 06. Bought new in the late 90's. Great rifle. VERY accurate.

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I have seen them for first time ca 1994 at two story gun shop on road from Athens to Atlanta. Pretty neat looking gun and great one gun to have choice. Big plus is ammo can be had 24hrs a day at Walmart.
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I do not wish to sound like a broken record. It's the only hunting rifle I own. I have two different scope for it. It was made in ca. 1959.


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I guess I was pretty close on my guess huh?? grin. Who said it was a '52 or later?
I guess I was pretty close on my guess huh?? grin. Who said it was a '52 or later?

Somebody who spotted the drilled bolt handle, but missed the plastic butt plate.
Originally Posted by GunDoc7
I guess I was pretty close on my guess huh?? grin. Who said it was a '52 or later?

Somebody who spotted the drilled bolt handle, but missed the plastic butt plate.


The rounded bolt sleeve is also a dead give away... wink
That was me who said 52 or later, as in 52 or later production. Or made after 52. However one interprets it.
Originally Posted by pre6422hornet
That was me who said 52 or later, as in 52 or later production. Or made after 52. However one interprets it.


Based on the drilled bolt handle, correct?
Originally Posted by GunDoc7
I guess I was pretty close on my guess huh?? grin. Who said it was a '52 or later?

Somebody who spotted the drilled bolt handle, but missed the plastic butt plate.


So educate me, I have a '53 270 with a solid bolt handle.
Originally Posted by mcmurphrjk
Originally Posted by GunDoc7
I guess I was pretty close on my guess huh?? grin. Who said it was a '52 or later?

Somebody who spotted the drilled bolt handle, but missed the plastic butt plate.


So educate me, I have a '53 270 with a solid bolt handle.


According to Rule (paperback edition, page 140) Winchester began drilling a hole in the bolt handle for the Featherweights in 1952, and "It was soon adapted to all Model 70 styles, but was one of the slower modifications to be implemented, and actually did not occur on many early Featherweights."

So, if you have a drilled bolt handle, it pretty much means a '52 or later. But, a post '52 will not necessarily have a drilled handle. Thus, it is no surprise that your '53 .270 does not, but if it did, that wouldn't be a surprise either. I have an early '54 .270 that does happen to have a drilled handle.

What really surprises me, considering how little weight it removes, is that they went to the trouble!

Composition butt plate (which I mentioned) and rounded bolt sleeve (as BSA noted, but I missed) came along in '59.
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Top one is a '61 Westerner, .264 WM, Middle is a '53 Standard in .270 and the bottom is a '37 Standard in 30 govt 06.
Sorry for the crappy pics.
All 3 are in remarkably good condition, considering I hunt with all of them.
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Top one is a '61 Westerner, .264 WM, Middle is a '53 Standard in .270 and the bottom is a '37 Standard in 30 govt 06.
Sorry for the crappy pics.
All 3 are in remarkably good condition, considering I hunt with all of them.


I love the bottom rifle, but all of them are very nice! I've heard that type of safety is harder to manipulate with a scope mounted. How do you feel about it? I've often considered getting a pre war because I shoot left handed and thought that safety would be the catz azz for a lefty. Any of you guys have thoughts on this? Thanks..
Originally Posted by GunDoc7
Originally Posted by pre6422hornet
That was me who said 52 or later, as in 52 or later production. Or made after 52. However one interprets it.


Based on the drilled bolt handle, correct?


Yep took a quick glance at the pic that day.
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter


I love the bottom rifle, but all of them are very nice! I've heard that type of safety is harder to manipulate with a scope mounted. How do you feel about it? I've often considered getting a pre war because I shoot left handed and thought that safety would be the catz azz for a lefty. Any of you guys have thoughts on this? Thanks..


I don't typically use a safety, but I seem to be able to manipulate it just fine. Doesn't seem to be an inconvenience to me.
Glad you enjoyed them.
Very nice trio, the wood on the older gun is killer!very best winpoor
That is a great looking group there, mcmurphjrk!
mcmurphjrk,
Upon further inspection of your pics when I had time, I believe your '61 Westerner may be the sister ship to mine, rubber butt pad and all. Enjoy!

Just curious, what are the first 3 digits of your serial#, if you don't mind me asking. If I remember correctly, mine are 539xxx.

Best Wishes,
LD
Originally Posted by local_dirt
mcmurphjrk,
Upon further inspection of your pics when I had time, I believe your '61 Westerner may be the sister ship to mine, rubber butt pad and all. Enjoy!

Just curious, what are the first 3 digits of your serial#, if you don't mind me asking. If I remember correctly, mine are 539xxx.

Best Wishes,
LD


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Yup. That's what I thought. Thanks for the reply.

Best Wishes,
LD
Got this one today.

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Awesome!!! Let us know how she shoots. Thanks. What are your plans for the rifle? Any African or Alaskan hunts on the horizon??
Will do BSA. smile

Nice score, I really like it!
Thanks. smile
Ken, what kind of loads are you going to run in the ol girl??? If it's not glass bedded really well, that would be the first thing I'd do to it, plus freefloat the barrel. Extremely nice rifle. Got me drooling. I think Dirtfarmer has one like it and maybe tdn as well??? If it were me, I'd leave it in that Tupperware and hunt it like that.
Looking to use a 270 gr bullet either a Swift A-Frame,North Fork or a 260 gr Nosler Partition. Going to shoot it first,then see if it needs bedding or free-floating. In all honesty,how much accuracy does one need for the game a .375 H&H is used on. ;

Had one of these about 18-20 years ago and traded it off,regretted doing that ever since.

I WILL leave it as is. smile

As far as plans for it,depending on what happens,MAYBE Africa.
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Looking to use a 270 gr bullet either a Swift A-Frame,North Fork or a 260 gr Nosler Partition. Going to shoot it first,then see if it needs bedding or free-floating. In all honesty,how much accuracy does one need for the game a .375 H&H is used on. ;

Had one of these about 18-20 years ago and traded it off,regretted doing that ever since.

I WILL leave it as is. smile

As far as plans for it,depending on what happens,MAYBE Africa.


To answer your question: I want all the damn accuracy I can get out of a 375 H&H, especially if I'm hunting "dangerous" game. That's probably just me though.. eek Also as far as bedding your rifle. It's kind of a must with those classics, especially heavy kickers. You got to remember the hot glue bedding of the day wasn't always the best:
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It's your rifle though my friend and I'm not trying to criticize, just hoping to help a little..
I missed one like this a few years ago, still kicking myself. Someone mentioned Cabelas has Remington 300 gr swift a-frame ammo on sale for $49. right now.
Southwind, that's actually a steal at that price when you consider the cost of components. I might just have to use my cabela's gift card I got for Christmas!!! grin. Although, I probably have enough components to choke a horse right now laugh. I might just say fu ck it and drive to Cabela's today.... whistle

Remington 375 H&H 300gr. swift A-frames
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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Looking to use a 270 gr bullet either a Swift A-Frame,North Fork or a 260 gr Nosler Partition. Going to shoot it first,then see if it needs bedding or free-floating. In all honesty,how much accuracy does one need for the game a .375 H&H is used on. ;

Had one of these about 18-20 years ago and traded it off,regretted doing that ever since.

I WILL leave it as is. smile

As far as plans for it,depending on what happens,MAYBE Africa.


To answer your question: I want all the damn accuracy I can get out of a 375 H&H, especially if I'm hunting "dangerous" game. That's probably just me though.. eek Also as far as bedding your rifle. It's kind of a must with those classics, especially heavy kickers. You got to remember the hot glue bedding of the day wasn't always the best:
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It's your rifle though my friend and I'm not trying to criticize, just hoping to help a little..
I know you're trying to help and it is appreciated,the thing is,I don't think this rifle has been fired at all. There are no "signs" on the bolt face or muzzle. When I get back from town later this morning,I'll take it out of the stock and look at the bedding.

For me,as long as it shoots 1-1/2" or less it'll be good. wink
As long as you get "CONSISTENT" accuracy out of it, you'll be doing great at 1 1/2" groups. Very nice rifle there and I hope it's a great shooter for you.. Have fun with it today...
Many years ago my LGS got in a bunch of Classic Stainless .375 H&H and .416 Rem. that had astounding wood. Prices were the same as for nice, but "normal" wood. Looking back, I should have bought several of them.
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Southwind, that's actually a steal at that price when you consider the cost of components. I might just have to use my cabela's gift card I got for Christmas!!! grin. Although, I probably have enough components to choke a horse right now laugh. I might just say fu ck it and drive to Cabela's today.... whistle

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I know, I had to buy a couple of boxes. Too good a deal to pass laugh
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As long as you get "CONSISTENT" accuracy out of it, you'll be doing great at 1 1/2" groups. Very nice rifle there and I hope it's a great shooter for you.. Have fun with it today...
Not today,the wind is blowing. Hopefully will take it out tomorrow morning and get it on paper. smile

Does the Stainless Classic .375s have the second recoil lug on the barrel? Sure wish they woulda made them in lefty also.
I don't know,tried to get the stock off and it didn't budge. So,instead of prying the barreled action out,I just put it back together. I'm a chicken schit. frown

Ha ha..... I wonder if they used too much hot glue!!!! shocked eek laugh
Maybe it's already been glass bedded.............permanently eek
BSA & Tmitch,you two could be right,never thought of that.
I know, it's not very often we are right.... grin
When I am,I mark the calendar and celebrate every year. wink
I'm still in shock shocked
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I'm still in shock shocked
Me too! laugh
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Beautiful rifle EdM. You have some real humdingers. Any of you newbies or oldies want to post up some of your new or old Winchester model 70's. Feel free.

I don't know if I posted my 375 H&H here after I threw it in the coyote bomber swirly Mcmillan, so here it is. I glass bedded it and it's shooting excellent. Absolutely no regrets with this big sledge hammer:

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Post up some more pics of your beautiful rifles.. Thanks!!
Lookin' good, BSA. That coyote bomber was a great fit with the 375!

Eric
Thanks buddy. I much prefer it on the 375 than when it was on the 30-06 fwt. It actually made the fwt weigh more than factory and balance was not good. It actually balances very well with this heavy barreled 375. I'm glad I didn't get rid of it since it has worked out very nicely. I'm hoping you'll get your 338 from Gene Simillion soon and post some pics. I know I keep saying this and it may seem I'm more impatient than you on this, but damn.... laugh. That's going to be one bad azzed 338!!!!
I heard, on the internet, that the market for these old Winchesters was about to dry up. smile

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Ha ha... I heard the same thing. I'm going to hang on to mine for a while then, since they are worthless... whistle wink
Love seeing this thread revived from time to time.
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I heard, on the internet, that the market for these old Winchesters was about to dry up. smile

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Crap..... well I guess I might as well rid myself of all the boatanchor/tomato stakes...

If the market is about to dry up will some one sell me a 35Rem and a 250/3000 while the market is still a little damp?:)

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Thanks buddy. I much prefer it on the 375 than when it was on the 30-06 fwt. It actually made the fwt weigh more than factory and balance was not good. It actually balances very well with this heavy barreled 375. I'm glad I didn't get rid of it since it has worked out very nicely. I'm hoping you'll get your 338 from Gene Simillion soon and post some pics. I know I keep saying this and it may seem I'm more impatient than you on this, but damn.... laugh. That's going to be one bad azzed 338!!!!

I'm curious what it's going to look like and how it will balance out w/ the new stock and S&B scope. Keeping my fingers crossed!

Eric
Here's a .270 Classic put together from New Haven parts.
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Love seeing this thread revived from time to time.


Me too. It's one thread that we don't argue and fight about... We just like looking at old (or new) Winchester model 70's... laugh
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ezearl, that looks like a hunting machine and fairly lightweight. I like it!!
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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Thanks buddy. I much prefer it on the 375 than when it was on the 30-06 fwt. It actually made the fwt weigh more than factory and balance was not good. It actually balances very well with this heavy barreled 375. I'm glad I didn't get rid of it since it has worked out very nicely. I'm hoping you'll get your 338 from Gene Simillion soon and post some pics. I know I keep saying this and it may seem I'm more impatient than you on this, but damn.... laugh. That's going to be one bad azzed 338!!!!

I'm curious what it's going to look like and how it will balance out w/ the new stock and S&B scope. Keeping my fingers crossed!

Eric


I'm sure we will all be drooling over it!!!
BSA, I wanted a D'Arcy Echolds Legend stock built by Mac for my 338 win mag, He is out, I can tell the Borden Rimrock is to thin in wrist, for that heavy cal. I love it for the 25-06, what should I be looking for as my second pick? I will not shoot it in the wood stock for fear or splitting it.. very best WinPoor
The stock in my pic is from a Winlite(made by Mcmillan)if you can find one. They're right beefy in the wrist. I had mine hydro-dipped for a wood finish then shot it with a clear matte finish cause was high gloss. That's NOT the best pic to show it though.
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BSA, I wanted a D'Arcy Echolds Legend stock built by Mac for my 338 win mag, He is out, I can tell the Borden Rimrock is to thin in wrist, for that heavy cal. I love it for the 25-06, what should I be looking for as my second pick? I will not shoot it in the wood stock for fear or splitting it.. very best WinPoor


I'm probably not the best guy to ask about which stock to get. I'm also thinking the wrist on my 338 might be a little flimsy as well. I have a sneaking suspicion that the Brown precision on that rifle is a Brown pounder because it is so damn light!!!!!! I was actually thinking about putting my 338 in something like an Echols legend as well. I do love the ergos of the Brown precision, just think it might work better on a fwt rifle instead of a 338... sick cry
South Carolina built Win 70 Featherweight SS in B&C Medalist w/ Leupold 2.5-8x36 in Talley LWs.


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BS47, That is definitely a sweet rig. '06?

John
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BS47, That is definitely a sweet rig. '06?

John



Thanks John. I think it was in 2010.
30-06?... Grin
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30-06?... Grin


LOL, well I missed that entirely...No, it's .308. I thought he was asking the year because FN ended up moving production to Portugal so these were only made in SC for a couple of years.
Pretty handy rifle, like the color combo
Shame to get this thread buried. Couple of quickies for a bump....


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Both of those rifles are very nice. I especially like your pre war 257 wby. Who built that one, if you don't mind me asking? It is exceptionally nice!!!
FN M70 in 243 with stock chopped to 13" LOP.

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I have no idea. My wife bought it (or I should say stole it) for my anniversary last year at my local gunshop. I'm embarrassed to say how much, but I doubt it would even pay for the piece of the wood.
Damn, thanks for sharing. You have some beautiful rifles there and an even better wife.


I traded into several guns today, these are spares if anyone is interested in a pre-war 22 Hornet or 1954 300 H&H...

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This is the one I will keep...

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We will have to shoot some little critters this spring....
Old rifle, new scope. FN M70 Featherweight Supergrade 7x57 with a new Meopta 3-9x40mm and Talley lightweights. Shoots the same no matter what scope is on it...
Bob

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The Winchester Featherweight with stock reduced to 13 LOP is really about perfect, now to find out what caliber!
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This is pretty much what I have attempted to do with the Winchester .243 Featherweight Compact! In fact the rifle only is .25 pounds less with the 20 inch barrel!
Special Winchester Ltd. run to commemorate the new FN Model 70 rebirth in 2008. Only 250 made in .300 Win Mag. Pictures don't do it justice....so much nicer in hand.

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Beautiful!
I agree, it's a beautiful FN rifle. Argentina or Portugual made??? Or are they made in Singapore now?
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EricM. Please post a pic of your new 338 here. Thanks buddy...
hunted my 264 mag made in 1960 this year, also just picked up a 30/06 made in 1950, nothing perfect but both haven't been cut or been molested in anyway, just perfect hunting rifles!
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I agree, it's a beautiful FN rifle. Argentina or Portugual made??? Or are they made in Singapore now?


Oh now you are just being silly goose they are made in Portugal.. All the wood for the stocks is coming out of missouri and shipped to Portugal..
If you were referring to the Special Edition .300 Win Mag I posted, it was built and assembled in the good old USA, just like all the earlier years of the FN guns. Somewhere around 2102/2013 they were still make here, but assembled in Portugal. Nothing at all wrong with the early FN rifles. In my opinion, the best ever. I have several. Probably the same for the later ones, although I don't own one so I really can't comment on those.
Bump.....



Charlie Sisk built this for me on a Classic in '05 I believe. For it's 10th birthday I had it repainted. It's shot a f-load
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Wow, that's a keeper!! Nice shooting!!

Eric
Guess I'll add mine to the bunch.

Matched set of Custom Pre-64s
Top - 240Wby with Meostar 4-12x40
Bottom - 220 Wilson Arrow with Monarch UCC 4-12x40
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Custom Pre-64 in 257Wby with Conquest 4.5-14x50
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Nice.........
Nice rifles tatelaw..


Sightless pre-64 featherweight in 270. This gun was unfired when I got it...

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Drool...
S'more....

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From the bottom up:
Pre 64 308 fwt
All orig in very good condition
NH Clasic 30-06
BBL action in Mickey Supergrade Edge, Tally LW and a Luppy 3.5-10
Pre 64 custom 35 Whelen
NECG Open Sights, Mickey Legend Edge, Talley QR Levers and a Luppy 2.5-8
NH Classic custom 416 Rem Mag
NECG Open Sights, Mickey Legend Standard Fill, Talley QR Levers and a Luppy fixed 2.5
toa, those are damn nice. Thanks for sharing..
Wow. Way to pick up an old thread, guys..
Nice lineup, Toa!

Eric
One of my favorite threads... wink
Toa, If you ever decide to kick the 243fw out of the house, please let me know!
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S'more....

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From the bottom up:
Pre 64 308 fwt
All orig in very good condition
NH Clasic 30-06
BBL action in Mickey Supergrade Edge, Tally LW and a Luppy 3.5-10
Pre 64 custom 35 Whelen
NECG Open Sights, Mickey Legend Edge, Talley QR Levers and a Luppy 2.5-8
NH Classic custom 416 Rem Mag
NECG Open Sights, Mickey Legend Standard Fill, Talley QR Levers and a Luppy fixed 2.5


I love that 35 Whelen if you ever decide to sell....
One of the first threads on this forum. Let's see some more....
Just took delivery of my latest 270 from Patrick Holehan. The first of a pair - this one a .270 Win, the other a 340 Wby. The cool thing is his return to zero bases. Good for a spare scope- once zeroed you can take a scope on/off at will. It has a second McMillan stock to go along with the rifle (barely seen on that bench to the right). In "deer hunting" mode it will have a Z6 1.7- 10 x 42 and in mountain mode in the edge stock it'll have a Z6 2.5 - 15 x 44. Shoots 1/4" with factory ammo, it'll be a one-holer shortly.


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Wow, beautiful, thanks for the pics!
Soprano, that's a very elegant rifle. damn nice heads in the background too. Is that non typical whitetail a coues?
Yes a nice little Coues I shot in Sonora in '05. Trashy, palmated 7 x 8.
Phew, that is a damn nice rifle. Looks like a lot of very cool machining went into that one. I like those bases. Thanks for sharing it with us.
That is a beautiful rifle. The bases remind me of the Brno ZG 47 with integral bases machined on the receiver?

Here are 2 pics after the blocks for the bases were welded on to the reciever and machined.


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Wow, awesome!!!
Beautiful work!
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Here are 2 pics after the blocks for the bases were welded on to the receiver and machined.


I was going to ask, if they welded then machined but I thought no to much distortion of the action. Very impressive.
There was a discussion on another forum about this. I also posted these pics there. Patrick Holehan has been doing it for years. I remember reading about him in the custom builders section of The Shooter's Bibles going back to 2000. Curt Crum turns his stocks.
Nonetheless, it's still a nice Classic.
Beautiful rifles! Very nice!
Here's one of my favorites. Been a safe queen but have decided it needs to go hunting.

Pre 64 My 70 7 Rem mag by Len Brownell, French walnut and nicely checkered and shaped stock. Old school custom rifle and hard not to like.


Tony Suprano's rifle is very cool beans !



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Bob, I love that rifle. Reminds me of some of Biesens stuff. I'm drooling! I'm glad you are posting pictures too, so we can see some beautiful rifles.
Those last two are works of art - just beautiful.
bsa/Odessa: Thanks. Brownell was one of my favorite custom rifle makers. he did it all...metal and stock work. Very talented guy.

A contemporary of JOC, he built the 30/06 FW that was Eleanor O'Connors "big rifle" and with which she killed elephant on Zambia and tiger in India.

I am the third owner of this rifle, which was built in the early 70's,and (i'm told) the first to shoot it LOL!

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Bob.... Very nice rifle from one of the best. Wow.
Thanks Cliff. It's one of my favorites. Thankfully I hung onto this one LOL!
Originally Posted by Whitebird
Bob.... Very nice rifle from one of the best. Wow.


Anything is better than the junk you got...
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Originally Posted by Whitebird
Bob.... Very nice rifle from one of the best. Wow.


Anything is better than the junk you got...


I know.... Someday I will own a few nice rifles like you.
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Originally Posted by Whitebird
Bob.... Very nice rifle from one of the best. Wow.


Anything is better than the junk you got...


I know.... Someday I will own a few nice rifles like you.


You will have to spend a couple years in appreciation school to accomplish that...

By the way, when you headed this way so we can shoot something?
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Originally Posted by Whitebird
Originally Posted by shrapnel
Originally Posted by Whitebird
Bob.... Very nice rifle from one of the best. Wow.


Anything is better than the junk you got...


I know.... Someday I will own a few nice rifles like you.


You will have to spend a couple years in appreciation school to accomplish that...

By the way, when you headed this way so we can shoot something?


Give me a few minutes or days and let me see if I can find a rifle in my vault that is worth shooting. Do you recommend shooting rats with Bitterroot bullets?
Cliff if you need some spare Bitterroots to shoot rats with Shrapnel, let me know......... smile



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Yee gads, that picture made me throw up. Ugly bullets need kept in the dark...
Bob, please don't show me any more pictures. I'm jealous enough as it is!!!! laugh
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Cliff if you need some spare Bitterroots to shoot rats with Shrapnel, let me know......... smile



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After the Brown Bear 7mm post I am afraid to go outside.
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Yee gads, that picture made me throw up. Ugly bullets need kept in the dark...



Shrap whatsamatter no plastic tips ? LOL! grin

Bet they kill rats good!
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Originally Posted by shrapnel
Yee gads, that picture made me throw up. Ugly bullets need kept in the dark...



Shrap whatsamatter no plastic tips ? LOL! grin

Bet they kill rats good!


They kill everything good...
Bob, that is one fine rifle!
WCH: Thanks! grin
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They kill everything good...



Yes they do! wink
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Originally Posted by Whitebird


They kill everything good...



Yes they do! wink


If you get to the point where you need to invest those bullets into cash.... you know where to call.
Cliff I understand... smile
I never get tired of hearing my dad tell stories of hunting sheep with Bitterroot Billy, Al Biesen and Gene Alford.

Bill would always tell me about the bear my dad shot with Bitterroot bullets. He would talk as if he was there.

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Cliff that is a beautiful bear!

Is that a M70 375?

If I were going back bear hunting again, I'd be loaded with Bitterroots....no question. wink
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Cliff that is a beautiful bear!

Is that a M70 375?

If I were going back bear hunting again, I'd be loaded with Bitterroots....no question. wink


It was a Pre-War model 70 magnum action barreled with a .338 factory model 70 barrel. My dad wanted as much case capacity as possible with 250 grain Bitterroots.
Very cool Cliff.... If that magnum action is like mine, it holds 4 in the magazine and 1 in the pipe. That's how I'd roll if I were going to hunt big bears like that one!!!!! So the 250gr. bitterroot from a 338 win magnum works on big bruins huh? wink. I'm like Bob, I'd want my 375 by my side in that instance. shocked . Even though I have a tremendous amount of respect for the 338 winny..
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Here's one of my favorites. Been a safe queen but have decided it needs to go hunting.

Pre 64 My 70 7 Rem mag by Len Brownell, French walnut and nicely checkered and shaped stock. Old school custom rifle and hard not to like.


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Bob, you carry a rifle like that out in the woods and everyone thinks you are a doctor or lawyer. You'll always be a star to me though buddy.... laugh.. Now I know why you like 7mm rem mag so much. The weight on that rifle is probably about 8 pounds as it sits Bob? Probably pretty comparable to a fwt? Is the barrel 22" or 23"? Thanks Bob, couldn't sleep because I was thinking about your rifle... laugh
bsa: Yes it's about 8 pounds, which was the magic number for a "mountain rifle"back in the 60's/70/s before we figured out synthetic stocks. A 270/280 used to be somewhat lighter even in wood. My wood stacked FW's are a bit lighter.

This was state of the art when it was built.Just how they did it back then when you built a rifle and stock from scratch as opposed to simply bedding a a pre made synthetic. The engraving is nice embellishment but mostly useless; the checkering is very attractive but beyond what's required to get a grip on the rifle. I guarantee its' VERY comfortable to shoot, points and hangs like a dream because the stock design and grip is outstanding.

Len Brownell was a master, even if less well known than guys like Biesen. In truth I am more a Maurice Ottmar and Len Brownell person than Biesen but we are comparing superlatives. If you can hit on an Ottmar with Burgess metal I don't know what's better.....maybe George Hoenig ? So many great ones.

I knew lots of guys who owned these rifles....one other was a lawyer, another a sports shop owner. Another a master electrician, another a construction worker. None were what i would call wealthy; they all worked.

This rifle cost me less money than my Mashburn and maybe the same as a GAP. If I had a builder like gene Simillion build it today it would cost much much more.

The best bargains for these kinds of rifles is definitely the used market. They are pretty so people don't hunt or shoot them.
Amazing rifle, Rob! That wood is to die for!

Also, really great photo Cliff. I've seen that photo before and it's a real classic!! So cool!

Eric
Bitterrots kock the snot out of brown bears. smile

No I take that back....Bitterroots knock the snot out of all bears. grin
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Bitterrots kock the snot out of brown bears. smile

No I take that back....Bitterroots knock the snot out of all bears. grin


They are hard on pocket books too Bob.... laugh... If you can even find them..

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Where can I get my hands on some 30 caliber Bitterroots?
They don't make them anymore..... frown
Yay, we hit 100 pages...
My last three purchases.


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I went back to the original scope that was on my 270 when I bought it from my buddy gunsmith. I like these old steel tube weaver k4's. Rifle still shoots good and scope seems to track very well too for it's age. I believe this one is only 11 oz's too. Pretty good fit for a fwt rifle:

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whistle Oh wait, that's my new Winchester m1917 (poor man's pre 64 model 70), what's that doing in here.... laugh
Here's my old P64 rechambered to 300 Wby. Had it for awhile but haven't done much with it yet. Pretty clean for the most part though.

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Any of you all find any 165 or 180 BBCs let me know..... grin

Bob's already mentioned it would make a great donor for 7mm MSM whistle
And whoever said they almost threw up when they saw ALL those danged BBCs was on the same track as me!

I've got some 225 BBCs for my 338. I'm dieing to hammer something with them.
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And whoever said they almost threw up when they saw ALL those danged BBCs was on the same track as me!

I've got some 225 BBCs for my 338. I'm dieing to hammer something with them.


Scotty: Matt's got the 30 cal 180's....cause he has all of mine. I only got 165's. smile

That's a nice 300 Weatherby. Crank it up!



The only thing "ugly" about a Bitterroot, is what happens to whatever gets in their way ..... wink


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I'm working Matt pretty hard Bob for a handful of those 180's. I can't imagine anything more fitting than Partitions and BBCs in the 300.

Plus, you mentioned, they seem to wreck everything they touch.

Have you ever ran 165's out of the 300's?
Originally Posted by beretzs
I'm working Matt pretty hard Bob for a handful of those 180's. I can't imagine anything more fitting than Partitions and BBCs in the 300.

Plus, you mentioned, they seem to wreck everything they touch.

Have you ever ran 165's out of the 300's?


Scotty, if you like Matt, next time you are down you should get ahold of blackdog1 (Matt's "bro"). He's one truly great person. Him and I have gotten together and talked Winchesters and life for hours on end. The kind of conversations where you wonder where the time went. Weird how small the world is sometimes. By the way, I love that 300 wby of yours. It is damn slick looking!!!
For ONCE in my life, I was in the right place at the right time and managed to snag this Super Grade. laugh


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For ONCE in my life, I was in the right place at the right time and managed to snag this Super Grade. laugh


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M70 Man: The top one looks flawed somehow..... whistle

Please send to me for thorough evaluation. smile
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Here is my pre-64 featherweight in 308 , when the rifle came to me it had some considerable finish issues , one being a bad re-blue job , so we cerakoted it in midnight blue. The stock is a MPI, I began striping the layers of paint off it , got sick of doing it and just left it.
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Damn, that is a sweet rifle buddy. If I could find a lefty like that, I'd trade in most of my right handed rifles...Well, maybe...
Originally Posted by BCJR
Here is my pre-64 featherweight in 308 , when the rifle came to me it had some considerable finish issues , one being a bad re-blue job , so we cerakoted it in midnight blue. The stock is a MPI, I began striping the layers of paint off it , got sick of doing it and just left it.
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That's a damn fine hunting rifle right there. My buddy only uses 1 rifle, his 1955 308 fwt..
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by BCJR
Here is my pre-64 featherweight in 308 , when the rifle came to me it had some considerable finish issues , one being a bad re-blue job , so we cerakoted it in midnight blue. The stock is a MPI, I began striping the layers of paint off it , got sick of doing it and just left it.
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That's a damn fine hunting rifle right there. My buddy only uses 1 rifle, his 1955 308 fwt..


Thanks, I think after all my years of owning all the latest and greatest magnums and wisms and 5 lb rifles I have come to accept all someone really needs is a 06 or 308. Both calibers are just boringly efficient at putting meat on the table. Kinda like these pre 64's , hard to improve a masterpiece. You either realize these pre 64's were the greatest hunting rifles ever produced or your wrong smile
Originally Posted by BCJR


Thanks, I think after all my years of owning all the latest and greatest magnums and wisms and 5 lb rifles I have come to accept all someone really needs is a 06 or 308. Both calibers are just boringly efficient at putting meat on the table. Kinda like these pre 64's , hard to improve a masterpiece. You either realize these pre 64's were the greatest hunting rifles ever produced or your wrong smile


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Originally Posted by BCJR
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by BCJR
Here is my pre-64 featherweight in 308 , when the rifle came to me it had some considerable finish issues , one being a bad re-blue job , so we cerakoted it in midnight blue. The stock is a MPI, I began striping the layers of paint off it , got sick of doing it and just left it.
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That's a damn fine hunting rifle right there. My buddy only uses 1 rifle, his 1955 308 fwt..


Thanks, I think after all my years of owning all the latest and greatest magnums and wisms and 5 lb rifles I have come to accept all someone really needs is a 06 or 308. Both calibers are just boringly efficient at putting meat on the table. Kinda like these pre 64's , hard to improve a masterpiece. You either realize these pre 64's were the greatest hunting rifles ever produced or your wrong smile


I agree. If you haven't tried a 270 fwt, I'd urge you to try one of those too. I have a 30-06 fwt and 270 fwt and the 270 shoots better consistently and it doesn't recoil as much as the 30-06. It's actually much more pleasant to shoot, probably more like your 308 fwt. I know my buddies 308 is a sweet heart to shoot too and it is damn accurate.
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Damn, that is a sweet rifle buddy. If I could find a lefty like that, I'd trade in most of my right handed rifles...Well, maybe...


Good gracious. Glad I checked this thread. That's a beauty!
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Originally Posted by BCJR
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Originally Posted by BCJR
Here is my pre-64 featherweight in 308 , when the rifle came to me it had some considerable finish issues , one being a bad re-blue job , so we cerakoted it in midnight blue. The stock is a MPI, I began striping the layers of paint off it , got sick of doing it and just left it.
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That's a damn fine hunting rifle right there. My buddy only uses 1 rifle, his 1955 308 fwt..


Thanks, I think after all my years of owning all the latest and greatest magnums and wisms and 5 lb rifles I have come to accept all someone really needs is a 06 or 308. Both calibers are just boringly efficient at putting meat on the table. Kinda like these pre 64's , hard to improve a masterpiece. You either realize these pre 64's were the greatest hunting rifles ever produced or your wrong smile


I agree. If you haven't tried a 270 fwt, I'd urge you to try one of those too. I have a 30-06 fwt and 270 fwt and the 270 shoots better consistently and it doesn't recoil as much as the 30-06. It's actually much more pleasant to shoot, probably more like your 308 fwt. I know my buddies 308 is a sweet heart to shoot too and it is damn accurate.

I hear you. Although I stand by a 06 or 308 I do have one of these , Guess I went the other way on the recoil spectrum:
375 classic stainless. Cut the bbl down to 21" fluted it and cerakoted the whole [bleep].The B&C stock has held up to north of 500 rounds so far.I guess its kind of a extreme weather only in 375 H&H. Like everything here it pretty much gets the crap beat out of it. But it kills Big things really well. smile
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That's a helluva nice stock on that SG!!!! What's it chambered in?
Its chambered in 300 WSM . I bought it for a price that made me look past the chambering , and the wood helped. Ive never even shot it , gonna leave it to my Nephew. I also have some pre 64's earmarked for kids in my family that like to hunt. Ill try to get some pics up of some of those.
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Classic featherweight .308 I just picked up here. Put it in a high grade stock I got from cdnn.
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That rifle looks damn good!!
Nice!
Bump this one for the new guys... laugh
Thanks for the bump, BSA... ask and you shall receive.

This is the preferred hunter for me

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Pre-64 action
Lilja 3-groove stainless 11 twist chambered in .30-06
McMillan stock
Leupold VX-3 in Talley mounts
Cerakote flat black finish

It's a 8 lb tack-driver... I can't bring myself to go into the woods with anything else.
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Thanks for the bump, BSA... ask and you shall receive.

This is the preferred hunter for me

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Pre-64 action
Lilja 3-groove stainless 11 twist chambered in .30-06
McMillan stock
Leupold VX-3 in Talley mounts
Cerakote flat black finish

It's a 8 lb tack-driver... I can't bring myself to go into the woods with anything else.


Excellent hunting rifle right there buddy. Can't get much better than that for sure. I love my 30-06 fwt as well. My 338 win mag tips the scales at 8 pounds "all up", on the nose and it's always ready to go elk hunting... I am too for that matter.. laugh
Here is a pre-war 30-06 that I cleaned up.

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Here is a pre-war 30-06 that I cleaned up.

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Looks great, WB.

Thanks for sharing.
Great thread and lots of nice rifles. I keep coming back to check this one.
We miss you buddy. Hope all is well.
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Thanks for the bump, BSA... ask and you shall receive.

This is the preferred hunter for me

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Pre-64 action
Lilja 3-groove stainless 11 twist chambered in .30-06
McMillan stock
Leupold VX-3 in Talley mounts
Cerakote flat black finish

It's a 8 lb tack-driver... I can't bring myself to go into the woods with anything else.


Pre64win. This one you haven't seen. It was put together very well and is my main elk hunting rig. It too is "8 pounds" all up. 4 in the magazine and 1 in the chamber. Oh the beauty of an H&H action my friend. I know you like customs and putting together a good rifle. This is a good one for its intended purpose.

1954 H&H receiver
338WM Match grade gretan barrel
Brown precision pounder stock (weighs in about 20 oz's with paint and recoil pad)
Midnight blue cerakote

It packed wonderfully last year during elk season. My hunting partner can't believe how light it is for a 338 laugh

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These are the first 2 groups shot with the rifle. I still haven't even done any load development for this one. These loads were worked up for EricM's 338:
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I may work up a good load for this ol girl this fall after elk season and see what she can really do....
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I pulled the Swaro off because it tracked for chit and installed a cheap Zeiss. Much prefer a scope that tracks vs. one that doesn't. Regardless of how much it costs!!!!!!!!!!


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Pre64win. This one you haven't seen. It was put together very well and is my main elk hunting rig. It too is "8 pounds" all up. 4 in the magazine and 1 in the chamber. Oh the beauty of an H&H action my friend. I know you like customs and putting together a good rifle. This is a good one for its intended purpose.

1954 H&H receiver
338WM Match grade gretan barrel
Brown precision pounder stock (weighs in about 20 oz's with paint and recoil pad)
Midnight blue cerakote


I recently had a rifle come through the shop with an MPI ultralight stock (cabon fiber over rigid foam). It also weighed 20 oz. It was so lightweight I wondered how well it would hold up to recoil and general abuse in the field... and I say this as an engineer who worked extensively on the carbon fiber structure of the Boeing 787! I mean, that stock was so lightweight it almost felt fragile. It also felt a bit imbalanced, with nothing to counter the weight of the barrel. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on this regarding the Brown Precision stock.

Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
I pulled the Swaro off because it tracked for chit and installed a cheap Zeiss. Much prefer a scope that tracks vs. one that doesn't. Regardless of how much it costs!!!!!!!!!!


Scopes are hit and miss for me. I've had fantastic $500 scopes and some very poor $2500 scopes. Austria has generally treated me very well. I particularly like the Austrian made Zeiss glass (haven't owned a US made one) and recently had a Kahles come through that I liked a lot. For my shooters, Leupold's have always seemed to perform well for the price, although I have had a few where I could never get the eye relief or parallax adjusted in a way I liked. As for the Swarovski, I haven't owned one. However, if a company is going to charge what they do, it better be amazing.
Below is my second Brown Pound'R. The first dated back to the mid 1980's and was hunted all over the continent. I finally sold it a couple of years ago,after installation of the third 270 barrel,which was too heavy in contour to suit me. The stock had been repainted 3 times and was a wreck but structurally sound despite all the shooting and hunting.

I replaced it with the rifle below, which is a 270 on a pre 64 M70 action, Krieger barrel, and another Brown PoundR. I have had similar rifles with Brown, McMillan and Banner stocks and none were fragile and all shot well.

I have had rifles like this in everything from 270 up to 375 H&h and mostly all in between. There is nothing fragile about them. Most have been pre 64 M70's with a few Classics and Mausers thrown in for measure.

They will outlast the owners and you will wear out barrels before anything happens to the stock. Not that they cannot break....it happens here and there. But really not much of an issue.


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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Pre64win. This one you haven't seen. It was put together very well and is my main elk hunting rig. It too is "8 pounds" all up. 4 in the magazine and 1 in the chamber. Oh the beauty of an H&H action my friend. I know you like customs and putting together a good rifle. This is a good one for its intended purpose.

1954 H&H receiver
338WM Match grade gretan barrel
Brown precision pounder stock (weighs in about 20 oz's with paint and recoil pad)
Midnight blue cerakote


I recently had a rifle come through the shop with an MPI ultralight stock (cabon fiber over rigid foam). It also weighed 20 oz. It was so lightweight I wondered how well it would hold up to recoil and general abuse in the field... and I say this as an engineer who worked extensively on the carbon fiber structure of the Boeing 787! I mean, that stock was so lightweight it almost felt fragile. It also felt a bit imbalanced, with nothing to counter the weight of the barrel. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on this regarding the Brown Precision stock.

Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
I pulled the Swaro off because it tracked for chit and installed a cheap Zeiss. Much prefer a scope that tracks vs. one that doesn't. Regardless of how much it costs!!!!!!!!!!


Scopes are hit and miss for me. I've had fantastic $500 scopes and some very poor $2500 scopes. Austria has generally treated me very well. I particularly like the Austrian made Zeiss glass (haven't owned a US made one) and recently had a Kahles come through that I liked a lot. For my shooters, Leupold's have always seemed to perform well for the price, although I have had a few where I could never get the eye relief or parallax adjusted in a way I liked. As for the Swarovski, I haven't owned one. However, if a company is going to charge what they do, it better be amazing.


To be honest, the MPI is a pile of garbage when compared to a stock like the Brown Precision Pounder. The pounder has fulfilled my every need and I have never felt as if it were fragile in any way. This is the only one I've had, but I have to say I really like it. I've had other stocks that have similar ergo's like the Bansner and didn't really care for them. Maybe because the grip is slimmer and longer on the Brown Precision or maybe because the balance just seems to be better. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I do know I have nothing negative to say about the pounder when it's cuppled to a rifle like the one posted above. Now for a featherweight, I prefer the Mcmillan hunters compact. Hold the edge fill too. Don't really like that and prefer the standard fill on the compacts with anything bigger than a 270. My buddy BobinNH posted something on the pounder, but I haven't read it yet. I do believe he runs a pounder on his 270 or 30-06 fwt, but to me the 22" barrel just looks odd on that stock. To each their own though...
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Below is my second Brown Pound'R. The first dated back to the mid 1980's and was hunted all over the continent. I finally sold it a couple of years ago,after installation of the third 270 barrel,which was too heavy in contour to suit me. The stock had been repainted 3 times and was a wreck but structurally sound despite all the shooting and hunting.

I replaced it with the rifle below, which is a 270 on a pre 64 M70 action, Krieger barrel, and another Brown PoundR. I have had similar rifles with Brown, McMillan and Banner stocks and none were fragile and all shot well.

I have had rifles like this in everything from 270 up to 375 H&h and mostly all in between. There is nothing fragile about them. Most have been pre 64 M70's with a few Classics and Mausers thrown in for measure.

They will outlast the owners and you will wear out barrels before anything happens to the stock. Not that they cannot break....it happens here and there. But really not much of an issue.


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Bob, what is your opinion on MPI stocks??
bsa: I have only had two MPI's, one on a 30/06 FW and the other on a 300 H&H pre 64. Both rifles shot well.

I have seen the popsicle stick fillers on here..... grin

I know Dakota uses them for their rifles, but I don't like the stock design in that model; grip too open and drop of comb too low for my taste.

I don't have enough experience hunting them to really say much about them. As you know I use McMillan and Brown.

Here is a typical group fired with that 300 H&H in the MPI stock. Note two bulets are Sierra and one Bitterroot. Should not have sold that rifle. smile


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Pretty sweet shooting 300 there Bob. I've gotten rid of a few that I wonder why sometimes too...
A Bansner stocked custom Classic 70 at the range today.
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Very nice rifle. I'll bet you like that summit. My buddy bought a PM2 about 2 months ago and that is some fine glass. Too rich for my blood though. Is that barrel an aftermarket barrel?? Looks like a long action. 30-06?
Thanks BSA. Yeah, it's an investment, but I've been happier with it than having another rifle or two around.

It's a full mag action (was a 300 Wby) and now a long throated 7mm RM. #2 @ 24". It's about 7.6 lbs as you see it.
Been quite happy with it so far.
Looks really good. That rifle will do anything in NA. The 7mm rem mag is a damn good choice for a do everything cartridge. And at 7.6 pounds, 24" tube. Looks about perfect to me..
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A Bansner stocked custom Classic 70 at the range today.
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I LIKE that stock!
Bob
Great looking rig TDN! tell us how the scope compares to others you've had?
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Great looking rig TDN! tell us how the scope compares to others you've had?


Thanks All! A lot of stock and barrel combinations and rights bought, shot, and sold have gone into the planning of this one. It's got PT&G bottom metal that drop a few ounces and I really like the stock - I finished it with a paint I got from "handwerk" (thanks!). I would be just as fine if the stock were a Brown, Legend, or Sako Classic Edge-fill, and this works great.. Talley LW lows work well for the Summit too.

Thus far (one range session and a bunch of shouldering/dry firing in my basement) I really dig the Summit. Tracked perfectly and it is as clear a picture and bright as I have ever seen! Cross hairs are a bit slimmer than say, a Leupy duplex, but with the optic quality, I am not at all worried about losing the hairs due to low light. It is really easy to get behind... Like a 6x36 or 3.5-10x40 Luepolds are and rides like a lighter scope.

Super impressed thus far.
All is well, had a little wreck a few weeks ago but just a broken bone in my wrist. That's about healed now, might get to do some shooting pretty soon I hope!
Heal up quick my friend. Hunting season is just around the corner laugh
Reconfigured my bear rifle. Its a classic in 375 H&H. I picked up a McM supergrade from rick , removed rear sight and installed a williams peep. I have a lyman which I will have installed this winter but for now the williams is holding up and it works with the factory front sight. I wanted to go iron sights for a zero fail sight system with fast heads up target acquisition. Anyway here it is:
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Originally Posted by BCJR
Reconfigured my bear rifle. Its a classic in 375 H&H. I picked up a McM supergrade from rick , removed rear sight and installed a williams peep. I have a lyman which I will have installed this winter but for now the williams is holding up and it works with the factory front sight. I wanted to go iron sights for a zero fail sight system with fast heads up target acquisition. Anyway here it is:
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That looks great!!
Very nice 375. Looks great!
Originally Posted by BCJR
Reconfigured my bear rifle. Its a classic in 375 H&H. I picked up a McM supergrade from rick , removed rear sight and installed a williams peep. I have a lyman which I will have installed this winter but for now the williams is holding up and it works with the factory front sight. I wanted to go iron sights for a zero fail sight system with fast heads up target acquisition. Anyway here it is:
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I suggest you remove the front sight base and check the thread engagement of the single screw that hold the base on. Pizz poor design IME. I swapped a banded setup on my 416.
Yes sir , when the lyman goes on , the front sight gets swapped.
Finally got the McMillen Edge bedded on the the like new Pre-64 that I bought from Yar here on the fire. Did forget to have him work on the trigger and it is a little stiff. But ok for now. This pattern is familiar here. Smith said it the first one he has seen in brown.

Making some brass so this is it's first go with factory. Took about 4 to get it centered and getting dark but it did this on the next to last group. The last went about a 1/4 more for 3, but the lights were going out.

Reloads should tighten it some, but it will work fine the way it is.


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Is that a VX2 3x9?
FX6 with post and duplex.
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Finally got the McMillen Edge bedded on the the like new Pre-64 that I bought from Yar here on the fire. Did forget to have him work on the trigger and it is a little stiff. But ok for now. This pattern is familiar here. Smith said it the first one he has seen in brown.

Making some brass so this is it's first go with factory. Took about 4 to get it centered and getting dark but it did this on the next to last group. The last went about a 1/4 more for 3, but the lights were going out.

Reloads should tighten it some, but it will work fine the way it is.


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Looks awesome. Kind of similar to one of my rifles. I'll bet DD lows would get that scope down a little lower.. Do they make the QD's in low?
Correction: Straight Duplex.
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Looks awesome. Kind of similar to one of my rifles. I'll bet DD lows would get that scope down a little lower..


No doubt they would, but I'm not one that likes my neck bent over. Seems like I get less neck jar with the head up a little and it also allows me to see more thru the center of my pupil and not the top. Or so it seems anyway.

When I mount it everything is centered, so all should be a wash.
Got it,

I have an 06/edge set up with 165 w/Accubond/partition loads. I really like the rifle and feel it's hard to beat.

You plan on using it this season?
Ben, Lord willing it will be used this season along with the Kimber Montana I had rebarreled to .300Savage with a little heavier barrel.

Sacrilege to say it here, but the .300Savage just may be my favorite. However, this one-Mod 70-handles really well and it would be hard to find any fault with it.

BSA: Yes, you can get the QR's in a low.
Pretty sure these are lows and what it will be wearing in the wood. The 6x42 will be on it mainly in the evening watching a field.

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Originally Posted by handwerk
Great looking rig TDN! tell us how the scope compares to others you've had?


Thanks All! A lot of stock and barrel combinations and rights bought, shot, and sold have gone into the planning of this one. It's got PT&G bottom metal that drop a few ounces and I really like the stock - I finished it with a paint I got from "handwerk" (thanks!). I would be just as fine if the stock were a Brown, Legend, or Sako Classic Edge-fill, and this works great.. Talley LW lows work well for the Summit too.

Thus far (one range session and a bunch of shouldering/dry firing in my basement) I really dig the Summit. Tracked perfectly and it is as clear a picture and bright as I have ever seen! Cross hairs are a bit slimmer than say, a Leupy duplex, but with the optic quality, I am not at all worried about losing the hairs due to low light. It is really easy to get behind... Like a 6x36 or 3.5-10x40 Luepolds are and rides like a lighter scope.

Super impressed thus far.


I feel exactly the same way.
Originally Posted by battue
Pretty sure these are lows and what it will be wearing in the wood. The 6x42 will be on it mainly in the evening watching a field.

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Nice rifle buddy. I really like that color combo. Did you end up going with edge fill or standard fill? Yep, those look like lows. Scope down a little closer to the barrel, so you don't have to lift your head off the stock. Sorry buddy, being a competitive trap shooter you understand where I'm coming from. When I was learning to shoot trap, that was numero uno bad habit to lift your head off the stock, number 2 was probably forgetting to follow thru... wink. Something we also need to remember even when shooting a rifle, especially at running targets.. laugh
I understand and have made the mistake with shotguns more than I would like to admit. Unfortunately.

Edge fill.

Anyway, with rifles I seem to be able to adapt within reason. Gun comes up and the picture is in the scope, along with a solid cheek contact. Combined with the fact a BG animal has a huge sweet spot to hit. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I've yet to miss and want to place the blame on a quarter inch or so of scope height.

It really is a fine rifle and I feel fortunate to have it come my way. Smith looked down the barrel with a scope and said it has been shot very little. Locking lugs are tight with no marks, along with the bolt face being void of any marks. Originall stock only had a couple scratches. About as new as you can get without being able to travel back in time. Looking forward to hunting it this season.
Sounds like an excellent rifle. The scope height is probably a non issue with that fine stock. However, Something like a low comb factory pre 64 stock and you'd need all the help you can get. My buddy found that out, thus the reason I installed a hunters compact on it for him. Made all the difference in the world with getting a full sight picture through the scope. Your 30-06 probably feels damn good in the hands. I know I really like my 270 in the same configuration. However, mine is standard fill. Still lighter than the factory wood though and balance is perfect.
Agree, low comb factory set up for irons changes things. Have my Dads standard and even with low mounts, you are almost shooting off your chin.
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Agree, low comb factory set up for irons changes things. Have my Dads standard and even with low mounts, you are almost shooting off your chin.


LOL. Yes it can be awkward... laugh
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Bumping a great thread.

Anyone have any neat 2017 purchases or builds planned?
Stopped at Cabelas the other day and was checking out the used gun rack and a pre-64 Fwt caught my eye.

It was an early 50's vintage 308. The condition was great.
Even had factory swivels and front sight hood.

The price was fair. I wasnt looking to add a 308 to my collection but the gun was just too nice.

So made a low ball offer, figured what the heck. And they accepted! The offer was $350 below asking $.

To say I was pleased is an understatement.

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I would have grabbed it as well. Their mark up is a min of 30%. Congarts
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...a pre-64 Fwt...an early 50's vintage 308...

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A FWT .308? Hell yeah!
Originally Posted by irfubar
Stopped at Cabelas the other day and was checking out the used gun rack and a pre-64 Fwt caught my eye.

It was an early 50's vintage 308. The condition was great.
Even had factory swivels and front sight hood.

The price was fair. I wasnt looking to add a 308 to my collection but the gun was just too nice.

So made a low ball offer, figured what the heck. And they accepted! The offer was $350 below asking $.

To say I was pleased is an understatement.

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Dang! Nice! Congrats!

Like the out building too!! Were there plans for it or was it improvised?
Thanks guys.
The 308 is such a ,well, "reliable round". Not much of a challenge finding an accurate load.

The out building was totally improvised, it's a combo garden shed, wood shed and dog kennel.
Just finished it a couple months ago.
It's nice having dry snow free wood.
Congrats! I love finding gems in the gun library. http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/11706947/1
I'm surprised they took your offer, it's never worked for me.
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Originally Posted by irfubar
...a pre-64 Fwt...an early 50's vintage 308...

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A FWT .308? Hell yeah!


That's one sweeeeeeeeet 308. Congrats!!!! Thanks for posting too..
Originally Posted by irfubar
Thanks guys.
The 308 is such a ,well, "reliable round". Not much of a challenge finding an accurate load.

The out building was totally improvised, it's a combo garden shed, wood shed and dog kennel.
Just finished it a couple months ago.
It's nice having dry snow free wood.


I was going to say, that is a damn nifty looking wood shed too. I was wondering if it were a combo something like a chicken coop or dog kennel. Looks great...
Nice rifle and sounds like a good deal.

Some don't like the Pre64 FW .308W because of the long action. I think they are an almost perfect compromise between weight and recoil.
Since you want to bring this up again battue, the 30-06 is the best compromise between lightweight and recoil. Funny thing is the 308 has more metal in it, which actually makes them heavier than an 06. I tried the 308, but just didn't care for it at all... The OP's rifle looks like a beauty though..
Well if I've made a habit of being the .308W cheerleader for the pre 64 FWT 70, so be it. You know I have one and I know I like it more than a little. The extra weight is non-consequential for me. The recoil difference between the two .30-06 pre 64's I have and the classic sporter .30-06-which is also a pretty nice rifle-is noticeable from the bench. Obviously not in the field, but I shoot them more from the bench and there is nothing I would shoot with a .30-06 that I wouldn't with a .308W. I really like all of them in .30-06, but I don't consider them to be the best compromise.

You have also mentioned more than once you don't care for the .308W and that's fine also. Nothing more than individual preference.
Sweet find irfubar!
An all time favorite cartridge of mine!

I am currently assembling parts for a 6.5/284 on a SS Pushed 70 as longer range set-up. I've only seen one other SS PF 70, so I am excited to put this one to good use!
Had my circa 1996 SS M70 308 Fwt out last weekend for its first range session... it will get open sights later this spring/summer:

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The 308 makes a lot of sense. It is a practical thinkin mans cartridge.

I understand the argument of a short round in a long action etc...

The 308 isn't glamorous, the truth is it's a great performer.

This coming from a 270 guy. smile

Originally Posted by battue
Well if I've made a habit of being the .308W cheerleader for the pre 64 FWT 70, so be it. You know I have one and I know I like it more than a little. The extra weight is non-consequential for me. The recoil difference between the two .30-06 pre 64's I have and the classic sporter .30-06-which is also a pretty nice rifle-is noticeable from the bench. Obviously not in the field, but I shoot them more from the bench and there is nothing I would shoot with a .30-06 that I wouldn't with a .308W. I really like all of them in .30-06, but I don't consider them to be the best compromise.

You have also mentioned more than once you don't care for the .308W and that's fine also. Nothing more than individual preference.


Totally agree on the noticeable recoil difference at the bench between the 308 and 30-06 of same weight and stock configuration.
Originally Posted by irfubar
The 308 makes a lot of sense. It is a practical thinkin mans cartridge.

I understand the argument of a short round in a long action etc...

The 308 isn't glamorous, the truth is it's a great performer.

This coming from a 270 guy. smile



I agree with all that (surprise), and I'm also a 270 guy laugh
Originally Posted by Brad
Had my circa 1996 SS M70 308 Fwt out last weekend for its first range session... it will get open sights later this spring/summer:

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Brad It is nice to meet a fellow weaver mount aficionado. cool
The Weaver's are practical, light, strong, and get the scope lower on an M70 Classic than any other mount. They're mounts for working rifles, not show rifles.

BTW Irfubar, meant to compliment you on your beautiful 308 Fwt... also really like your woodshed in the background. Nice all around!
Nice rifle. I suspect it will shoot.


I'm fond of the.308W....

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The pre 64 308 fwt I had shot like this! Got sold to help out one of my kids.Not a 308 fan by any means, but that sucker shot!
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Nice to see some 308 love...
Battue,
My shooting spot is snowed in.
Went yesterday and got my truck stuck!
Managed to get the 308 sighted in and with the first load I tried it was MOA. no surprise really.

Brad,
Thank you. I always enjoy your post.
You have fine taste in rifles and your elk hunting skills are admirable.
Aw shucks... kind of you to say.
My P64 Featherweight 30/06

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What bullet are you shooting?
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What bullet are you shooting?


I haven't really decided to be totally honest. I ran some 168 Nosler BT's with 4451 for it's first run. It seemed to shoot those fairly well.

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I tried to like that Weaver K4, but after that range trip, I came home and pulled it and put a M8 4X Leupold on it.

This next time around I loaded up some 200 grain Accubonds and some 125 Ballistic Tips.

I have never owned a 30-06 so I am kinda monkeying around a little with it. Figure I'll get some fired cases and then get serious with a bullet.
beretzs, very nice 06 fwt. I'd be happy to hunt with that one!
Originally Posted by patbrennan
beretzs, very nice 06 fwt. I'd be happy to hunt with that one!


Thank you. I am going to give it a shot..
Very nice, irfubar! Congrats!
Beretzs,
Love the dark wood on that one.
Pre-64 fwt 30-06 pure classic!
Originally Posted by beretzs
My P64 Featherweight 30/06

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Not too different from mine. Except swapping the Weaver for the Z3 on mine.

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Some nice figuring on the butt of that one!
Local Dirt,

That's a beauty. That Swarovski looks like a nice match.

Originally Posted by irfubar
Local Dirt,

That's a beauty. That Swarovski looks like a nice match.



irfubar, Thanks. And it is. Pull the rifle to my shoulder and it is right there. Perfect match for the rifle size and weight wise, too. Bought the scope on recommendation from handwerk, who I bought the rifle from here on the forum.
Wow! Nice.
Beautiful
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by beretzs
My P64 Featherweight 30/06

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Not too different from mine. Except swapping the Weaver for the Z3 on mine.

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Wow, beautiful wood on that rifle.

Mine looks pretty danged nice with the M8 4X on it. Need to take a couple of updated pictures of it..
Have always had a weakness for Classic Stainless Featherweights...

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Dawg likes a nice rifle too. He'll sniff any kind of butt smile

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Originally Posted by gunnut308
Dawg likes a nice rifle too. He'll sniff any kind of butt smile

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What's the caliber on the Super Grade? Classic?
Classic Super Grade .338 Win Mag
Originally Posted by gunnut308
Classic Super Grade .338 Win Mag


Very nice....love your stainless collection.
Originally Posted by gunnut308
Have always had a weakness for Classic Stainless Featherweights...

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Awesome rifles man!!!! I'm not going to show a pic of my new classic stainless 7WSM, it is plane jane compared to those beauties... It looks like it shoots pretty good though.. Bobin warned me not to get a late classic, but I didn't listen like a good boy... I know why he used to say some of them really needed some work. This one is a great rifle now, after a little fine tuning:

1. Glass bed the action.
2. Freefloated the barrel.
3. Got the scope mounts sorted out. Scope is in line with the axis of the barrel now!!!!!
4. Radiused and polished the bottom of the follower. Also had to relieve a little of the side of the follower to make the loading flawless. It hung up when I first got it. Now she works like a damn champ.
5. Replaced the hard as hell recoil pad and put a pre-fit decelerator on it..
6. Trigger was HORRENDOUS when I first got it. Stoned, polished, and lighter spring, now it's at 2 7/8 pounds.
7. Replaced the FUNKY fugly phillips head action screws with allen head screws. Damn, what was Winchester thinking?????

The guys at my club said, "if it doesn't shoot good, how much will you want for it"... My buddy spotted for me, after getting the scope dialed in, and the first 5 shots went into less than an inch and I said this fu cker isn't for sale.... grin. According to him, the last 3 shots went into the same hole... Good enough for me..
My 21 year old's first rifle. He's not taken a deer yet since he's been figuring out what to do for a living (Now a HVAC Technician)
I was going to buy this for myself since it''s my birth year (1960) but I let him have first whack at it.
It is in 30-06 caliber.

All photos at this link--> https://sportsdad60.smugmug.com/Winchester-Model-70-1960-30-06/n-8KFn9X/

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Can I post photos of my Winchester 54's since they are the grandfather of the Model 70?

1st picture is a 1926 Model 54 in 30-06. All photos here--> https://sportsdad60.smugmug.com/4472-Winchester-Mod-54-30-06-1926/n-s9Cxtc/i-QVzgwjD

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2nd photo is a 1931 Model 54 also in 30-06 All photos here--> https://sportsdad60.smugmug.com/36453A-Winchester-Mod-54-1931-Brian/n-GKHhKZ/

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Guys, these just showed up at the shop... which means they are mine until I sell them smile

They came out of a NJ estate and two of them appear unfired. They are going to command a collector-grade premium, but I know many of you collect rifles of this quality. If you are interested, shoot me a PM.

1955 .375 H&H Standard Rifle
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1960 .220 Swift Varmint Rifle
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[Linked Image] red pad in storage , 94 new haven classic sporter ot6 , 0 collector value , done too much chit to it, barnes 168 vortex loads .75"@ 100yds. thing aint gonna see much time in the woods this yr, gonna use my 164 dollar accurate as fugg pawnshop 1964 marlin glenfeild 36g SC .30-30 insted. [Linked Image] cheek peice was sanded off in the summer of 94, cant stand em, outline on checkering opened up also during that time. [Linked Image] put in some stainless action screws and sanded down the sharp edges on the pistol grip cap. Tru oil finish. Barrel has been floated, fixed aluminum post pillar bedded , recoil lug and sides and rear of action glass bedded. 1st inch of barrel glass bedded . Sears stoned and 3/4ths of one coil on trigger spring cut 18 0z bolt slam and bounce test good to go. Low DD bases and rings . And a frigging .012 shim( that annoys the chit outta me cause i know its their ) under my rear scope base thanks to leupold cutting back on total moa in their new vx3i 3.5-10x 40. Maybe someday if one of the daughters gets me a grandson i can school him up and pass a bunch of guns down.
Nice rifles guys... Thanks to photobucket, we lost a lot of great pictures here. Post some new ones up if you have them...
Since elk season is almost upon us, I need to show off my ultimate elk rifle. Many of you have already seen this one, but it's a good rifle:

1955 H&H action
338WM
4 round mag box capacity 1 in the pipe (5 rounds available).
Properly glass bedded in a Brown PoundR
Trigger adjusted to 2.5 pounds
red pachmayr decelerator
Gretan 24" stainless barrel
Midnight blue cerakote
7 pounds bare. 8 pounds with scope
She's a shooter too:

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I've had a lot of fun with this ol girl in all kinds of weather:
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BSA, thats a helluva good group and nice, close standard dev.
Thanks buddy.
Damm..... that is one accurate .338 , gotta pack a hellava punch with 225 gr at that fps.
Zeiss Conquest on top?
Bob
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Since elk season is almost upon us, I need to show off my ultimate elk rifle. Many of you have already seen this one, but it's a good rifle:

1955 H&H action
338WM
4 round mag box capacity 1 in the pipe (5 rounds available).
Properly glass bedded in a Brown PoundR
Trigger adjusted to 2.5 pounds
red pachmayr decelerator
Gretan 24" stainless barrel
Midnight blue cerakote
7 pounds bare. 8 pounds with scope
She's a shooter too:

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I've had a lot of fun with this ol girl in all kinds of weather:
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I like the way you roll.

Running 210 Swift’s this fall. Mine has been in the field a bunch with different stocks but I kinda like this one the most of any of them.




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Originally Posted by Sportsdad60
My 21 year old's first rifle. He's not taken a deer yet since he's been figuring out what to do for a living (Now a HVAC Technician)
I was going to buy this for myself since it''s my birth year (1960) but I let him have first whack at it.
It is in 30-06 caliber.

All photos at this link--> https://sportsdad60.smugmug.com/Winchester-Model-70-1960-30-06/n-8KFn9X/

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I like that fwt!
FYI, the 1931 WIn M54 is for sale in the free classified ads here. $500.
Originally Posted by beretzs

I like the way you roll.

Running 210 Swift’s this fall. Mine has been in the field a bunch with different stocks but I kinda like this one the most of any of them.

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Wow you totally missed the bullseye! whistle
Just kidding, nice group!

The first time my youngest son (then age 16) shot my Springfield Trapdoor he grouped his first 3 shots within 1/2" MOA at 100 yards. He said sucked because they were not bullseyes. LOL!


Originally Posted by beretzs
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Since elk season is almost upon us, I need to show off my ultimate elk rifle. Many of you have already seen this one, but it's a good rifle:

1955 H&H action
338WM
4 round mag box capacity 1 in the pipe (5 rounds available).
Properly glass bedded in a Brown PoundR
Trigger adjusted to 2.5 pounds
red pachmayr decelerator
Gretan 24" stainless barrel
Midnight blue cerakote
7 pounds bare. 8 pounds with scope
She's a shooter too:

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I've had a lot of fun with this ol girl in all kinds of weather:
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I like the way you roll.

Running 210 Swift’s this fall. Mine has been in the field a bunch with different stocks but I kinda like this one the most of any of them.




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I think you and I would get along very well Scotty.... Next time you are around here, look me up buddy...
Originally Posted by RGK
Zeiss Conquest on top?
Bob



In this picture, it's wearing the cheaper Terra. I took the Swarovski off due to tracking problems. It's wearing a Zeiss conquest 3.5-10x44 now (not pictured)... I really like the glass on this one. My only complaint is the elevation turret is bass ackwards.... mad
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/galleries/12333684/pre-64-fwt-270#comments

A pre 64 270 fwt I picked up several months ago. (having trouble figuring out how to display the pic!) Initial range testing is showing very good accuracy with some basic 130 interlock handloads.
patbrennan, if you sign up with IMGUR, you can easily post pics here. It's free and easy to use...I'm sure your 270fwt is a good shooter. My smith says his 270s were his least finicky rifles and they were always accurate, even the featherweights. He used to tell me, he didn't know what all the fuss was about the 308win because his 270's generally shot better..
My 3 06's were not fussy either, maybe the folks at Win just knew how to build a rifle 😉
My 416 Remington from a couple of weeks ago.

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My 3 06's were not fussy either, maybe the folks at Win just knew how to build a rifle 😉



Yep, they sure did...
Might as well join in with a shameless elk pictured with my Alaskan

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Thats a cool pic. What stock pattern is that?
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Thats a cool pic. What stock pattern is that?



It is an Echols Legend. Love it so far. It is like adding a muzzle brake to the guns and feels real nice for carrying and shooting.
I just got back from an elk hunt in NM. Ended up packing my Weatherby Ultralight in 270 Win over my Semi Custom SS model 70 in 7mm magnum. I may be putting my model 70 up for sale soon. It's very nice, but the stock doesn't fit me very well.
Originally Posted by Sakohunter264
I just got back from an elk hunt in NM. Ended up packing my Weatherby Ultralight in 270 Win over my Semi Custom SS model 70 in 7mm magnum. I may be putting my model 70 up for sale soon. It's very nice, but the stock doesn't fit me very well.


What kind of model 70 is it that you have?
G Series, SS with a McMillian Hunters Edge Stock, bedded.
PTG bottom metal. Trigger tuned with no creep to 2.75lbs.
My left handed 375 H&H by Bob West. Trying out IMGUR.
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Its headed to a new home soon, but here is was in action last week.

New Haven M70. 6.5x284 Norma
25" Hart tube, McM Hunter w/ Edge fill
PT&G Bottom Metal
Spits 143 ELDXs quite well.
161" (green) mule @ 557 yards.

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Great buck, great rifle and heckuva shot!

Nothing like some nice Pre-war carbines. The top is a 22 Hornet with a vintage Lyman 2 1/2 power scope. No holes in the bridge. The second is a 30-06 with a peep sight, no holes in the bridge and a 270 with a vintage B&L Balvar scope on it and no holes in the rear bridge. Once I found one, I started collecting these things, they are not easy to find, especially in this condition...

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Originally Posted by TDN
Its headed to a new home soon, but here is was in action last week.

New Haven M70. 6.5x284 Norma
25" Hart tube, McM Hunter w/ Edge fill
PT&G Bottom Metal
Spits 143 ELDXs quite well.
161" (green) mule @ 557 yards.

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I love that picture! and I spent some serious time thinking about that rifle, too...
Nice carbines!!!!!!
Wow, those are some beauties Shrap!
Originally Posted by shrapnel

Nothing like some nice Pre-war carbines. The top is a 22 Hornet with a vintage Lyman 2 1/2 power scope. No holes in the bridge. The second is a 30-06 with a peep sight, no holes in the bridge and a 270 with a vintage B&L Balvar scope on it and no holes in the rear bridge. Once I found one, I started collecting these things, they are not easy to find, especially in this condition...

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Beautiful rifles, shrap. That Hornet has some really nice feature in the wood.
shrapnel, Nice collection of carbines.
How are the rear rings attached if there are no holes in the rear bridge? are they attached to the holes drilled in the side of the receiver for receiver sights?


There are several different mounting systems that incorporated the side screw holes that were original to the side of the action for putting on a rear peep sight. The mounts were made to utilize those holes and then the front could mount in the holes on the front of the action or the rear dovetail in the barrel. The top rifle is a 22 Hornet with a Lyman Alaskan 2 1/2 power with the front scope mounted in the rear dovetail. The bottom is a B&L Balvar scope with the scope mounts being mounted in the rear screw holes for the peep and the front holes in the action...

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Interesting mounts..
Originally Posted by shrapnel


There are several different mounting systems that incorporated the side screw holes that were original to the side of the action for putting on a rear peep sight. The mounts were made to utilize those holes and then the front could mount in the holes on the front of the action or the rear dovetail in the barrel. The top rifle is a 22 Hornet with a Lyman Alaskan 2 1/2 power with the front scope mounted in the rear dovetail. The bottom is a B&L Balvar scope with the scope mounts being mounted in the rear screw holes for the peep and the front holes in the action...

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Thanks for posting the pic. I thought that had to be the way they worked.
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Originally Posted by shrapnel

Nothing like some nice Pre-war carbines. The top is a 22 Hornet with a vintage Lyman 2 1/2 power scope. No holes in the bridge. The second is a 30-06 with a peep sight, no holes in the bridge and a 270 with a vintage B&L Balvar scope on it and no holes in the rear bridge. Once I found one, I started collecting these things, they are not easy to find, especially in this condition...

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There is a Model -70 carbine on Gunbroker in 250/3000 in the original box with all the factory shipping papers. Asking $12,500 plus. What's it really worth?
It is a Super Grade on top of that. It could be worth that much if it isn't messed with...
I am now down to two:

This is sold:
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These two are still in the fold:

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Nice. I've got a '61.
Newest toy from New Haven, albeit slightly modified.
M70 push feed short action .308 palma. McMillan, Jewell, 1-13 Kreiger, etc.
Shots as good as it looks...

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Pre 64 fwt 270, currently has a vx111 3.5x10 on it in talley lw. (scope has never given me a hint of trouble, touch wood!) First loads out of it were sub 1" groups (130 hornady interlocks).It is an early 1957 barrelled action in a later fwt stock.
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Very nice!
Originally Posted by Whitebird
Here is an old pre-war that I brought back from the grave...

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What is the chambering,Whitebird?

And.... WOW!
I'll have to get my setup reworked so I can take a full pic without a ladder, but this is my SC FWT (Made in USA). 308 Win, Leupold 1x4 with detachable mounts (shown with Talley's, but I have since swapped them out for Alaska Arms mounts). I have its big brother heading home in a week or so with a new 35 Whelen AI Tube, so maybe I'll get a family photo.

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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Originally Posted by Whitebird
Here is an old pre-war that I brought back from the grave...

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What is the chambering,Whitebird?

And.... WOW!


30-06
Thank you,Whitebird.
Originally Posted by Whitebird
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That wood is awesome! Nicely done.
Beautiful rifle Whitebird.

Nice FN 308 as well. Looking forward to seeing the Whelen as well. A 35 Whelen on a P64 is on my to-do list.
Originally Posted by beretzs
Beautiful rifle Whitebird.

Nice FN 308 as well. Looking forward to seeing the Whelen as well. A 35 Whelen on a P64 is on my to-do list.


This will be my second 35 WAI - the first is on a Rem 721, but it isn't a very handy rifle, as the barrel is heavy and long. Looking forward to using this one.
Originally Posted by Razz
Originally Posted by Whitebird
Here is an old pre-war that I brought back from the grave...

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That wood is awesome! Nicely done.


For a standard model 70 stock it is pretty nice. Thanks
Originally Posted by Whitebird
Here is an old pre-war that I brought back from the grave...

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Damn! Never was a fan of the Model 70 ( I'm a Model 54 kinda guy), but I like everything about this rifle! And its accoutrements!!!!
Pre64 Model 70 custom in 34 Whelen. McMillan edge stock, Shilen barrel.


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Very nice..
Originally Posted by Sakohunter264
Pre64 Model 70 custom in 34 Whelen. McMillan edge stock, Shilen barrel.



Nice! I plan to shoot a lot of Cast in mine -

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I adopted this orphan the other day. Original owner had the stock refinished and a decelerator pad added. 5 digit Classic Featherweight.

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Featherweight 308

Beuhler mounts, old Burris 4x
My retro rifle


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Very nice, love the colors on the whelen with the low power Nikon, very practical set-up.
I can’t remember if I put this up.

P64 270 Winchester.

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Sweet little rifle. Not hard to figure out why those Featherweights were so sought after.
Hey Scotty. The pre 64 fwts are still sought after.
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Hey Scotty. The pre 64 fwts are still sought after.


Yes, you are dead right. I’ve got an 06 and this 270 and man, they are pretty danged nice rifles. Might take one of them this fall for Elk.
Ha ha. They are damned good. I also like the xtr fwts and classics, as well. The bacos are nice too, but seem to be fatter/preagnent looking. I don't know why Browning swayed away from some of the finer points of the original model 70?????
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Ha ha. They are damned good. I also like the xtr fwts and classics, as well. The bacos are nice too, but seem to be fatter/preagnent looking. I don't know why Browning swayed away from some of the finer points of the original model 70?????


Without a doubt. I’ve got a Classic 6.5 Swede and an XTR 7x57 but neither feels quite as good as the P64’s. Even with a stubbier grip they feel great in my paws. The bonus part was ol Bob had originally found my 270, passed it to another friend in our circle and I was able to grab it. I love it so far. Really thinking I might hunt it this fall alongside the Mashburn. Just feels right.
Oh, agree on the Bacos. Had a 300 WSM. Super quality rifles but the stock didn’t work for me.
My 358 Win.

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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
. I don't know why Browning swayed away from some of the finer points of the original model 70?????
The zillion-dollar question... Morons..
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Man.... That .264 is a sweetheart! What length/weight barrel?
26" Lilja. I can't recall if it's a number 2 or number 3.
Pre FW 64 7x57 custom
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bt, is that the 7x57 that was listed on Guns International last week?
Yes it is, just came in today
Nice, I called about that one, too late obviously!

Any idea what it weighs?
I replaced the steel bottom metal with the feather weight aluminium and according to my scales about 7 lbs 4 oz
Nice snag!
Thanks, it a sweet little rifle. Although it can't compare to some of the ones you have posted.
Originally Posted by EdM
My 358 Win.

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What the barrel length?
bt, that's a nice little 7x57, it was on my radar as well. Nice to see it went to a good home !
Originally Posted by bt8897
Pre FW 64 7x57 custom
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Very nice. However it doesn't have the fwt profile barrel. I wouldn't consider it a fwt. Nice little 7x57 though. Congrats.
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by bt8897
Pre FW 64 7x57 custom
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Very nice. However it doesn't have the fwt profile barrel. I wouldn't consider it a fwt. Nice little 7x57 though. Congrats.


Yeah, it does not have the exact Featherweight contour barrel, but I think the contour on that cystom is actually more gracefull looking than the factory Winchester FWT contour which to me has all the grace of a stove bolt..:)

It must be a pretty light barrel because an early '60s FWT 39-06 I recently sold weight 7 lbs on the nose with a 32oz stock..

That 7x57 has a smaller hole in the barrel and I would bet that stock with cheekpeice is a few ounces heavier than factory as well.
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So at 7.4lbs in deed rather than looks, I would say that 7x57 really does have a "featherweight" barrel..It's probably a No 1 contour.


Nicely done rifle BTW, who did the stockwork?
Originally Posted by jk16
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by bt8897
Pre FW 64 7x57 custom
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Very nice. However it doesn't have the fwt profile barrel. I wouldn't consider it a fwt. Nice little 7x57 though. Congrats.


Yeah, it does not have the exact Featherweight contour barrel, but I think the contour on that cystom is actually more gracefull looking than the factory Winchester FWT contour which to me has all the grace of a stove bolt..:)

It must be a pretty light barrel because an early '60s FWT 39-06 I recently sold weight 7 lbs on the nose with a 32oz stock..

That 7x57 has a smaller hole in the barrel and I would bet that stock with cheekpeice is a few ounces heavier than factory as well.
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So at 7.4lbs in deed rather than looks, I would say that 7x57 really does have a "featherweight" barrel..It's probably a No 1 contour.


Nicely done rifle BTW, who did the stockwork?

Ha ha.. wink
Originally Posted by jk16
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by bt8897
Pre FW 64 7x57 custom
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Very nice. However it doesn't have the fwt profile barrel. I wouldn't consider it a fwt. Nice little 7x57 though. Congrats.


Yeah, it does not have the exact Featherweight contour barrel, but I think the contour on that cystom is actually more gracefull looking than the factory Winchester FWT contour which to me has all the grace of a stove bolt..:)

It must be a pretty light barrel because an early '60s FWT 39-06 I recently sold weight 7 lbs on the nose with a 32oz stock..

That 7x57 has a smaller hole in the barrel and I would bet that stock with cheekpeice is a few ounces heavier than factory as well.
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So at 7.4lbs in deed rather than looks, I would say that 7x57 really does have a "featherweight" barrel..It's probably a No 1 contour.


Nicely done rifle BTW, who did the stockwork?


I was told the stock was by George Beitzinger, and the barrel a Pac Nor #1
Awhile back I picked up a worn out 220 Swift for 500.00 bucks. It had good wood and a shot out barrel, throat was so gone brass would flow into the throat when firing.

Thought about it awhile and turned it over to a local gunsmith to be reworked. had a Sendero profile Shilen barrel in 220 Swift put on, trigger worked, glass and pillar bedded, all metal Ceracoated and the stock refinished. Still working up some loads for it but it is a shooter, will put 3 shots through the same hole at 100 yards.

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That’s a beautiful rifle! Very nice job working it over.
Originally Posted by beretzs
That’s a beautiful rifle! Very nice job working it over.


I can't say it any better. My sentiments, too.
Originally Posted by Augie
Awhile back I picked up a worn out 220 Swift for 500.00 bucks. It had good wood and a shot out barrel, throat was so gone brass would flow into the throat when firing.

Thought about it awhile and turned it over to a local gunsmith to be reworked. had a Sendero profile Shilen barrel in 220 Swift put on, trigger worked, glass and pillar bedded, all metal Ceracoated and the stock refinished. Still working up some loads for it but it is a shooter, will put 3 shots through the same hole at 100 yards.

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That is a heck of a nice rifle! I've been thinking about doing a project just like that, I love the .220 Swift. I have a 1955 .M70 220 Swift in excellent condition bought new by my dad when he was a teen. I love shooting it, and would like to use it more, but it's a safe queen and always will be. I need one I can take out and not worry about dinging it up... as much!
Originally Posted by sgtsmmiii
Originally Posted by beretzs
That’s a beautiful rifle! Very nice job working it over.


I can't say it any better. My sentiments, too.


x4, you did the old girl good, a grounghog killer if I ever saw one.
No more "wonky" adjustment leupold scopes for me

Red pad in storage now

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With sightron S II 3-9x42 on sorta semi custom mod 70 ot6 new haven classic sporter vintage 1994
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I “rescued” a ‘55 vintage Fwt in 30-06 from Cabelas this morning. Even came with a cool vintage Balvar scope! I believe the stocks been refinnished but the metal is pretty nice. I thought it was a good buy at less than 7 bills.

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Nice! Think you done good there.
Originally Posted by tmitch
I “rescued” a ‘55 vintage Fwt in 30-06 from Cabelas this morning. Even came with a cool vintage Balvar scope! I believe the stocks been refinnished but the metal is pretty nice. I thought it was a good buy at less than 7 bills.

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Looks nice, I think you did really well.
Originally Posted by tmitch
...I thought it was a good buy at less than 7 bills...


Indeed.
Tmitch, you did really well. Youll like that one..
I originaly went in to check out a couple different rifles they just got in. They didnt trip my trigger but my GF spied the M70 and brought it to my attention. I’m thinking I’ll swap the scope for a Lyman Alaskan I have and put the Balvar setup on my .243 Fwt.
I know alot of folk poo-poo Cabelas, but there are gems to be found. And using gift cards that you can buy for 20% off makes the deals even sweeter.
I found this one two miles from my house.
358 featherweight.
The metal is about 98%.
The wood is really clean but the finish is dry/lifted in spots.
I traded an M1A Soccom 16 for it!
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Great trade!!
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Originally Posted by EdM
My 358 Win.

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What the barrel length?


21"
Another, a pre-war (1939) 270 Win,

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Ed--nice chunka wood.
Originally Posted by EdM
Another, a pre-war (1939) 270 Win,

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Damn that is a beautiful sob... Thanks for sharing.. Is that a canjar trigger?
Classic fwt in 7mm08 remington, topped with a Leupold vari-xIII 2.5-8x36 in Leupold DD's ...:

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Cell phone pic is grainy and doesn't do the rifle any justice. I'll glass bed this one, shoot some groups and post more pics... I already adjusted the trigger down to 2.5 pounds, so some of the "trick moves" are done... This one is as close to new as you are ever going to get. Has only had 1 box of ammo down the tube and the leupold still looks like new as well.. I'm thinking it's going to be pretty dang easy to find a load this rifle is going to like... Not because I'm hopeful, but because I've owned enough classics to know they are shooters... wink
That’s a dang nice rifle BSA !
This is a project just finished. It is a 375 Weatherby. I got the McMillian as a primed stock, and finished it from there. [Linked Image][Linked Image]
Very cool 375 WBY. I like it. However, what's the deal with the doctor scope and Buehler windage/elevation adjustable mount? Usually those mounts are used for old scopes like the Bausch and Lomb Balvar, because they didn't have internal adjustments...
The scope is 26mm, and those are the only rings and bases I had that would fit on this rifle.
Is it a pre 64 h&h action.
Originally Posted by aguyinAK
This is a project just finished. It is a 375 Weatherby. I got the McMillian as a primed stock, and finished it from there. [Linked Image][Linked Image]


What pattern is that mcmillan stock? Looks very good.
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Classic fwt in 7mm08 remington, topped with a Leupold vari-xIII 2.5-8x36 in Leupold DD's ...:

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Cell phone pic is grainy and doesn't do the rifle any justice. I'll glass bed this one, shoot some groups and post more pics... I already adjusted the trigger down to 2.5 pounds, so some of the "trick moves" are done... This one is as close to new as you are ever going to get. Has only had 1 box of ammo down the tube and the leupold still looks like new as well.. I'm thinking it's going to be pretty dang easy to find a load this rifle is going to like... Not because I'm hopeful, but because I've owned enough classics to know they are shooters... wink


I like the balanced look. Are those lows or "super lows" (I think Leupold calls them)?
I believe the stock is the supergrade copy Mcmillian makes, but I snagged it from gunbroker at a good price because it was unfinished. BSA the action is a pre64 300 H&H, but what I meant about fitting is the size of the rings. These were the only 26mm rings I had that wound fit the scope, and this was the base I chose to go with. Rev mike, they are low rings according to buehler.
Originally Posted by RevMike
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Classic fwt in 7mm08 remington, topped with a Leupold vari-xIII 2.5-8x36 in Leupold DD's ...:

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Cell phone pic is grainy and doesn't do the rifle any justice. I'll glass bed this one, shoot some groups and post more pics... I already adjusted the trigger down to 2.5 pounds, so some of the "trick moves" are done... This one is as close to new as you are ever going to get. Has only had 1 box of ammo down the tube and the leupold still looks like new as well.. I'm thinking it's going to be pretty dang easy to find a load this rifle is going to like... Not because I'm hopeful, but because I've owned enough classics to know they are shooters... wink


I like the balanced look. Are those lows or "super lows" (I think Leupold calls them)?

Those are lows. Im thinking extra lows would work too.
That is a beautiful rifle BSA.. I'd pick up a rifle like that anyday!
Thanks scotty. I may start a thread on that rifle, regarding before and after glass bedding accuracy. It may be an eye opener for some people..
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Thanks scotty. I may start a thread on that rifle, regarding before and after glass bedding accuracy. It may be an eye opener for some people..


I'd be interested in reading it.
bsa: do you prefer glass bedding to pillar bedding?
I do both. I may or may not use pillars.
Originally Posted by aguyinAK
I believe the stock is the supergrade copy Mcmillian makes.....


You mean it’s composite, not wood?
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Thanks scotty. I may start a thread on that rifle, regarding before and after glass bedding accuracy. It may be an eye opener for some people..


Like Chandler told Joey, “Do it!! Do it now!!”
Originally Posted by Reloder28
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Thanks scotty. I may start a thread on that rifle, regarding before and after glass bedding accuracy. It may be an eye opener for some people..


Like Chandler told Joey, “Do it!! Do it now!!”

Just put the barreled action in devcon 10110..
Since yesterday, there is now a photo of my old 1950s M70 .308 and here it is:
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Originally, I hand loaded it for proof of accuracy and could not do better than 5 shots in 5/8 inch and it shot Remington 150 grain ammo that well, so I gave up in disgust and stopped hand loading.
It has shot only Hornady ammo since they came out with their Light Magnum ammo, mostly 165 grain bullets now.
Stainless Classic Featherweight 30/06.
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Otter, that is an awesome rifle!!!!!!
Pre'64 Featherweight
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Originally Posted by gunnut308
Pre'64 Featherweight
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Who made the stock?
It's a McMillan Featherweight Edge.
Looking good buddy.
Originally Posted by gunnut308
Pre'64 Featherweight
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I like that a lot gunnut,

I've been using Pre-64 Featherweights for most of my hunting for nearly 30 years. About 6 or 7 years ago I put a McMillan compact edge on a 270 Pre-64 Featherweight and it is my favorite rifle.
This just found its way into my home, a .300 H&H from 1957, I think.
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Originally Posted by RememberBaker
This just found its way into my home, a .300 H&H from 1957, I think.
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That looks like a beautiful rifle!
Very nice, I'd be happy with one like that!


Nothing like a pre-war carbine in 22 Hornet...

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Pre-War Hornet.... 4 digit SN.


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Whose is whose?

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Originally Posted by shrapnel

Whose is whose?

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Yours is the carbine. Nice rifle..
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by shrapnel

Whose is whose?

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Yours is the carbine. Nice rifle..


Thanks for the help...
Was at gunshow here in Alaska few yrs ago. I spied a pre 64 for $795 bucks I'm like damn that's cheap. I assumed it been drilled and tapped for side mounts nope. By this time I thought I found the deal of the century I saw 22 hornet stamped on it, then saw another stamp on 222 remington. I was like wtf... so went bought some gun show jerky and left.
Originally Posted by 79S
I was like wtf... so went bought some gun show jerky and left.


Where you able to score any of those gun show knives $10 a piece or 2 for $15 as well?
Originally Posted by 79S
Was at gunshow here in Alaska few yrs ago. I spied a pre 64 for $795 bucks I'm like damn that's cheap. I assumed it been drilled and tapped for side mounts nope. By this time I thought I found the deal of the century I saw 22 hornet stamped on it, then saw another stamp on 222 remington. I was like wtf... so went bought some gun show jerky and left.


I ran into one of those Model 70 .22 Hornet/.222 rechambers at a Cabelas a few years ago. I went from "Oh yeah!" to "aw sheet" in 5 seconds. It was prices around $600 IIRC
Had the fore end reshaped on my Pre War 375 H&H. It had that angular 70s look "jutting chin" look before:



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Got my 340 Wby back from Patrick Holehan. Classic action, Krieger barrel, with his integral scope bases- these work perfectly and are a true return to zero so I have in essence 2 rifles with differing scope options. Has a second synthetic stock for Alaska.



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Beautiful rifle! Dang, that is really nice!
Very nice rifles Tony. Thanks for sharing!!
Every one of these has been beautiful. I have 2 model 70's left a Stealth in .308 from 2005 and a Featherweight Stainless in .243 from 2012.

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Was at the shop yesterday where I was formerly employed. The boss had several consignment Model 70’s on hand. Im not a model 70 kinda guy but one was interesting to me. A Featherweight .358. Dunno the price. Didn’t ask. Also a nice old Hornet that was still a Hornet.

Just throwing it out.
A Featherweight .358 if original,well,you best take out a loan to buy it. wink
Originally Posted by Tony_Soprano
Got my 340 Wby back from Patrick Holehan. Classic action, Krieger barrel, with his integral scope bases- these work perfectly and are a true return to zero so I have in essence 2 rifles with differing scope options. Has a second synthetic stock for Alaska.



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WOW!!
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
A Featherweight .358 if original,well,you best take out a loan to buy it. wink


Yeah! Allegedly original. First one I’d ever seen. Stuff like that causes me to raise an eyebrow. Supposedly belongs to big time collector. Like I said, I’m sure no authority on em! 😉
Originally Posted by Tony_Soprano
Got my 340 Wby back from Patrick Holehan. Classic action, Krieger barrel, with his integral scope bases- these work perfectly and are a true return to zero so I have in essence 2 rifles with differing scope options. Has a second synthetic stock for Alaska.



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Freaking Gorgeous
This is probably my favorite rifle thread on this site, time to contribute to it. First is a Supergrade 300 RUM
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Second is a 90's 300 WM in a Brownpounder
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Last is a early 2000's 7mm WSM in a Mcmillan Supergrade pattern stock.
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I have a safe full of Winchester model 70s, only one is a pushfeed, a 1967 heavy barrel 22-250. The rest are a mix of Classics and new FN production. I do have two Pre64, though.

First up is a 1954 270 Sporter

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Next is a 1961 264 WM Sporter

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I also have a 1951 30-06 barreled action with a corroded barrel. I believe that will be used for a 280 AI project next year.

Kansan
The trip-wired safe has pre-64 M-70s from 270 through 375 H&H, with stops in between for some lovely one-offs.
Years ago obtained a beautiful custom 35 Whelen with Super Grade faux stock. All custom including reboring and rechambering.
Came-bought from Idaho and the owner said, you can send it back...but you won't be sending it back once you carry it and hunt with it. Never returned it as it was too nice.
Same with an identical '06 taken out to 338-06, one of the better wildcat cartridges resembling Keith's 333 OKH. This one is equipped with
a Lyman Alaskan and an early original Super Grade stock. Original barrel

You might consider the 338-06... Kansan.... with a re-bore re-rifling rechamber. You probably will not look back........will handle anything from coyotes to moose,
even a grizzly was taken by one of the Nosler bullet reps.with the 338-06.
Originally Posted by 450Fuller
You might consider the 338-06... Kansan.... with a re-bore re-rifling rechamber. You probably will not look back........will handle anything from coyotes to moose,
even a grizzly was taken by one of the Nosler bullet reps.with the 338-06.


Now THAT is an interesting idea...

Thanks,

Kansan
Kan:
I have an extra standard 06 pre-64 original stock. Its an OK stock-nothing fancy. With attached sling.
No extra bottom metal or screws.

Fuller
Originally Posted by 450Fuller
Kan:
I have an extra standard 06 pre-64 original stock. Its an OK stock-nothing fancy. With attached sling.
No extra bottom metal or screws.

Fuller




I appreciate the thought, but I have two on eBay right now that end tomorrow evening.....Likely go with the 280 AI stainless and a McMillian stock. If I didn't already have a FN Winchester 338 WM Extreme Weather in the safe, the 338-06 would have probably won out.

Kansan
Originally Posted by RememberBaker
This just found its way into my home, a .300 H&H from 1957, I think.
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That sure is a beauty. Thanks for sharing.
Not a pretty Pre-64 but a new M70 FWT 270 Win with steel Talley rings and bases and a FX-3 6x42 duplex scope...just simple but works

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Originally Posted by harv3589
Not a pretty Pre-64 but a new M70 FWT 270 Win with steel Talley rings and bases and a FX-3 6x42 duplex scope...just simple but works

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Awesome buck and rifle! Congrats!
Originally Posted by harv3589
Not a pretty Pre-64 but a new M70 FWT 270 Win with steel Talley rings and bases and a FX-3 6x42 duplex scope...just simple but works

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That's a cool setup.
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Last time I posted a pic of my ot6 it had a leupold on it.
Nevermore, nevermore, nevermore....
Now it and its older relative, a early 1950,s Sako reworked 1939 Kar98 in 8mm
both sport Sightron S II 3-9×42,s.
Win 70 extreme weather in .264 win mag

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Alright, it's about time someone opened this great thread back up. Great rifles here. Thanks for posting. That EW is looking good!!
Thanks! Yep ive been enjoying taking a look at everyone’s winchesters
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Thanks! Yep ive been enjoying taking a look at everyone’s winchesters



It used to be better, photobucket ruined a lot of it..
Originally Posted by harv3589
Not a pretty Pre-64 but a new M70 FWT 270 Win with steel Talley rings and bases and a FX-3 6x42 duplex scope...just simple but works

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Nice Buck!

And the rifle is ok too grin
Originally Posted by harv3589
Not a pretty Pre-64 but a new M70 FWT 270 Win with steel Talley rings and bases and a FX-3 6x42 duplex scope...just simple but works

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That's quite a good photo. What camera/lens did you use?
This is my other one, i have posted before so some of you may have seen.. featherweight .30-06 with iron sights, QD scope mounts and timney trigger added..i just cant leave a rifle alone without modifying it in some way lol

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Originally Posted by JonnyGumbo
Win 70 extreme weather in .264 win mag

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Mighty fine rig! Is that McMillans SuperGrade pattern??
Any idea what the bare stock weighs? Thanks!
Thank ya! Yep its the supergrade pattern with the sporter fill, not sure about the weight..ill have it out tonight ill check it out and let you know
The stock weighs 36 oz
10-4.....The Super Grade stock fits me like a glove. I’ve got a Pre64 that could use a new handle, someone chopped the LOP down to midget size. I need to make the $700 phone call and order one I reckon... cry
Originally Posted by gunnut308
10-4.....The Super Grade stock fits me like a glove. I’ve got a Pre64 that could use a new handle, someone chopped the LOP down to midget size. I need to make the $700 phone call and order one I reckon... cry


That’s the spirit!
Yeah i like the feel of it alot..haha yeah i think that one was $735 total, i ordered it on april 15 and got the shipping notification on june 3rd so at least it got to me quick
Originally Posted by beretzs
Originally Posted by gunnut308
10-4.....The Super Grade stock fits me like a glove. I’ve got a Pre64 that could use a new handle, someone chopped the LOP down to midget size. I need to make the $700 phone call and order one I reckon... cry


That’s the spirit!


I used to blow money on wild women and hot rods. Now I spend it on damned old gun stocks! WTF!!!

crazy
Originally Posted by gunnut308
Originally Posted by beretzs
Originally Posted by gunnut308
10-4.....The Super Grade stock fits me like a glove. I’ve got a Pre64 that could use a new handle, someone chopped the LOP down to midget size. I need to make the $700 phone call and order one I reckon... cry


That’s the spirit!


I used to blow money on wild women and hot rods. Now I spend it on damned old gun stocks! WTF!!!

crazy


Well at least you didn’t waste your money grin

Can the SG stocks be ordered with Edge fill?
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Can the SG stocks be ordered with Edge fill?


Yeap, sure can!
They can also do Edge Fill in a McSwirly that’s either Black with Tan or Black with gray... Or maybe both, Heck....I forgot what they told me.
This is a great thread. I'm glad someone bumped it up again. Now I can post pics of some of the ones I got rid of and some I still have or newly acquired ones I'll show you guys. I know I've started threads on some of the newer ones I stole...

Pre 64 model 70 300WBY I bought last year (Aug 29) for $499.99:
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Yes, I installed a red pachmayr. It had a worn out ventilated recoil pad on it when I bought it. I also glass bedded it and fine tuned the trigger to a perfect 2.5 pound pull. Rifle is a shooter and likes 180's and 200's:
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Around the same time last year, I ran across a nice 30-06 fwt that I couldn't pass up at $475.00:
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Yes, same treatment as the 300wby above. I also ran across a pristine fwt stock at a gunsmith's shop off the beaten path:
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This stock fits this fwt like it was meant for it. It is also the same era as the rifle.

My latest pre 64 purchase was a transition model 375 WBY (rechambered H&H). I found it at a pawn shop for $600.00... We won't go into details about what it sold for on GB...
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The stock was all original and probably worth almost as much as I gave for the complete rifle.. It is what it is though....

Here's one I sold less than a year ago. It shot ho hum and was chambered in a cool cartridge. Every time I shot it, I yearned for a rifle that would shoot the little cartridge better. Thus for that reason and that reason alone, I sent it packing...
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I lucked into this rifle for a song. $800.00 as you see it pictured, plus I got 4 or 5 boxes of ammo with it. That was a while ago, can't remember. You think, that isn't much of a deal right. Wrong. Sold the scope for $350.00. Now you getting the picture. Still have some of the factory ammo to use in my new 7mm08. Those that say you can't buy a winchester model 70 as an investment are whacked...
Geez, I need you to do my rifle shopping for me....nice finds!
Originally Posted by handwerk
Geez, I need you to do my rifle shopping for me....nice finds!

I just got lucky I guess. One was across the river from my house, about 10 miles away, the other in Reno, the other one in Portland. I'm always looking and run across some great deals. Money makers in fact. Not just on model 70's either. In another thread, I mentioned I found some AR15's for $500.00 because some idiot was saying prices have gone way up on them and another guy pm'd me and asked me where they were. I sent him links to those 3 ar's and never heard from him again. Stupid fu cks think I'm lying or something. I have nothing to hide, nor would I make any kind of false claim in real life or on the internet... Just how I roll my friend..
Yessir, great thread, and lmfao, yes, this place is weird at times, some say, pics or it didn't happen, others say, I dont want to hear what your cousins half brother did in front of your youngest brother, I want to know what/how/when YOU did something, then you begin telling a story of how YOU do/did something, then someone else comes on and says quit making this thread about yourself.....................WTF over?

It's like a bunch of gotdamn old whining bitching ninnies around a quilting circle! grin
Originally Posted by gunner500
Yessir, great thread, and lmfao, yes, this place is weird at times, some say, pics or it didn't happen, others say, I dont want to hear what your cousins half brother did in front of your youngest brother, I want to know what/how/when YOU did something, then you begin telling a story of how YOU do/did something, then someone else comes on and says quit making this thread about yourself.....................WTF over?

It's like a bunch of gotdamn old whining bitching ninnies around a quilting circle! grin


Ha ha. Good one ol buddy. I hope you are doing well.
Great pictures fellas!
Wow bsa you got those rifles for a steal! I feel like i never see pre 64s like that for less than a grand on gunbroker.
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Classic Stainless .300 Win Mag
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Classic Stainless .300 Win Mag

Looks good.
Thanks for the compliment!
Originally Posted by Chocolatepossum
Thanks for the compliment!


Sure thing. Looks like you put that 300 winny in to a winlite stock. I like the camo pattern. Love the red pachmayr, as I'm sure beretzs likes that one as well... The red pachmayr is kind of iconic around here. Excellent choice on your scope too. That rifle is set up to rock and roll..
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by Chocolatepossum
Thanks for the compliment!


Sure thing. Looks like you put that 300 winny in to a winlite stock. I like the camo pattern. Love the red pachmayr, as I'm sure beretzs likes that one as well... The red pachmayr is kind of iconic around here. Excellent choice on your scope too. That rifle is set up to rock and roll..


Hell yeah, any new stock my 70’s get, they get red pads. Need one for my SG 300 RUM.

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When this one gets a Legend, It’ll have a red pad as well.
BSA..... you are right, right, and more right! It is indeed a Winlite featherweight stock that I had Jim Kobe add the Red pad and bed the rifle into. He also cut the barrel back to 25” and recessed the crown for me. Shout out to him for excellent work and quick turnaround. 5-digit Classic BTW.

Beretzs..... I dig the red pads too! Maybe not everyone’s cup of tea, but hell, I’m the only one drinking this one anyway!
Originally Posted by Chocolatepossum
BSA..... you are right, right, and more right! It is indeed a Winlite featherweight stock that I had Jim Kobe add the Red pad and bed the rifle into. He also cut the barrel back to 25” and recessed the crown for me. Shout out to him for excellent work and quick turnaround. 5-digit Classic BTW.

Beretzs..... I dig the red pads too! Maybe not everyone’s cup of tea, but hell, I’m the only one drinking this one anyway!


For sure, that looks like a damned solid rifle. I dig it.
1954 Standard, 30-06. It’s at https://pre64win.com/ right now getting a 1955 Featherweight barrel installed, refinished 1957 Featherweight stock, Featherweight bottom metal. I’ll pick it up this weekend. They checked that gun and told me it had hardly been used. Barrel was in near perfect condition.

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7mm Rem Mag
BACO Action
Lilja #2 @ 25"
McMillan Sako Classic Edge
Tungsten Cerakote
Swarovski Z3 in TLW mounts
Weighs 8.12 pounds as shown

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Originally Posted by Tony_Soprano
Got my 340 Wby back from Patrick Holehan. Classic action, Krieger barrel, with his integral scope bases- these work perfectly and are a true return to zero so I have in essence 2 rifles with differing scope options. Has a second synthetic stock for Alaska.



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Do you find the Talley set up gives you enough eye relief when scope is at higher power? Really uses up all the tube
Classic Stainless 30-06. Leopold 3.5 x 10. Vari -X III


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I snagged this one the other day. I rolled up a dozen 165’s to give’r a go.
Classic 30-06
Nikon 3-9

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Originally Posted by gunnut308
I snagged this one the other day. I rolled up a dozen 165’s to give’r a go.
Classic 30-06
Nikon 3-9

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Nice snag!
Pre-64 1961 Vintage 264 Win Mag.....

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Very nice. That 264 looks like its in excellent condition. Thanks for sharing..
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Pre-64 1961 Vintage 264 Win Mag.....

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WOW! Now that's a rifle... I'd covet that sucker myself!
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LH 270 with a 3.5-10x40 VX3. I bought it off of another member here who has since passed away. He obviously did work on the trigger because it's sweet.

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gAGoober, nice looking featherweights!
Here is one.... of the newer ones... grin


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Here is one.... of the newer ones... grin


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Very nice gun. .30-06? No rear sight dovetail? Really a shame that someone drilled and tapped the rear bridge.
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Here is one.... of the newer ones... grin


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Very nice gun. .30-06? No rear sight dovetail? Really a shame that someone drilled and tapped the rear bridge.



Yes, .30-06. No dovetail. Agree on the drill and tap.... but it is what it is.
Here are a couple that recently followed me home.


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Very, very nice rifles from several posters. Thanks.
My pre-64, 300 Win. Mag. with a Fajen fancy stock....

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A current 70 Feather Weight 264 in. Mag. Dark Maple

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Sorry to revive this thread without pictures (yet, I'll have a few up in a week or so) but just curious.

Are the irons on your rifles in your stock configuration etc. visible enough to use when Weaver bases are installed on the rifle? Or must the bases be removed/left off if you want to use the irons?

Thanks fellas.
7x57 Cabela's special. 3-9 Leupold in Talley's.
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A real beauty, RGK and cool chambering too
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7x57 Cabela's special. 3-9 Leupold in Talley's.
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I have it's twin. I believe I put a 2.5-8 Leupy on mine but would need to find it to be sure. I bought it, zeroed it, shot a buck with it and I don't believe it has left the house since.
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This was a 1964 .300 W. Mag i recently traded away.

Mike Holmes
Good thread, a lot of the pictures are gone. But still a great thread..
@ Whitebird. I like the newer 412, sweet!
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@ Whitebird. I like the newer 412, sweet!


One of the newer ones for sure.... smile.
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7x57 Cabela's special. 3-9 Leupold in Talley's.
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Sexy!!!
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7x57 Cabela's special. 3-9 Leupold in Talley's.
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Here's mine, with 2.5-8x before changing to Talley LW extra lows.


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1960 produced Featherweight in 308 Win. Mounted a 3-9x40 VX-Freedom in Weaver QD rings because that scope and those rings are what was still kicking around here. Looking to replace it soon.

Haven't shot it yet but the action feels just great and it cycles nicely. The trigger could use some love. Its a heavy SOB but at least its a very crisp heavy SOB. Will be sending that out for some work. Wish I lived Stateside and could just send it to Redneck.

Handy little rifle anyhow. Will shoot it soon. It will be joined by a 1948 Standard rifle in 30-06 as soon as the mail wagon puts it in my grubby paws.

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Originally Posted by Igloo
1960 produced Featherweight in 308 Win. Mounted a 3-9x40 VX-Freedom in Weaver QD rings because that scope and those rings are what was still kicking around here. Looking to replace it soon.

Haven't shot it yet but the action feels just great and it cycles nicely. The trigger could use some love. Its a heavy SOB but at least its a very crisp heavy SOB. Will be sending that out for some work. Wish I lived Stateside and could just send it to Redneck.

Handy little rifle anyhow. Will shoot it soon. It will be joined by a 1948 Standard rifle in 30-06 as soon as the mail wagon puts it in my grubby paws.

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That's a beauty igloo!! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you!

Here's a few of the older sibling. The only thing I can tell for sure is not original on this 1948 is that someone has cut or ground down the front sight, but that can (and will) be replaced.

It came with a vintage Lyman Alaskan scope in a Buehler mount but I'd removed it.

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Cool rifle Igloo.

I like some of the newer rifles out there, but just love the old P64's.. Amazing how well they stand the test of time.
2005 270 WSM Supergrade III and B&C Medalist stock:

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A 1953 FW 308:

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That Swede would look REALLY good at my house! Dang nice rifle.
Beautiful rifles guys!

Olgrouser, your Supergrade looks great in the B&C stock, good idea to save wear and tear on the purdy wood it came with! And the Fwt is very classy.

Sqweeler, an XTR standard in 6.5x55 like that is one of my dream rifles. How do you like it?

Just won this in an auction. Its a 270 Win. Never loaded for or hunted a 270 yet. Going to try it as-is, but really tempted to rebarrel in 6.5x55 or 7x57. You guys are killing me with those rifles!

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Nice rifle igloo. Hard to go wrong there. Please tell me you won it with those mounts and scope on top. If so, treat it respectfully with a set of dd's. That rear mount is killing me man. Good scope choice though. Im assuming 4200 2.5-10×40?
Yes sir on all of the above. The optics and rings/bases are included, and I think I will be taking you up on the DDs. That setup is fugly.

The 4200 Elite is actually a scope I'd been looking to eventually buy anyway so it worked out well. I like the glass and construction of the 4200s and those long tubes help on the Winchesters, I find. Pretty good for the money anyway, eh?

I'll get some pictures of it once it and I both get home...hopefully with a less fugly mount haha. Looking into ammo, I see there is some Federal "Terminal Ascent" 136gr available locally. Think I'll just buy that.
You'll like that scope and rifle. Great combo right there. Should be a great shooter. You may want to check that bedding first though. The hot glue is serviceable, most times. But generally gets replaced with devcon, if it were mine. You scored on that one. Congrats!!
Thank you! Good to know!

Do you only bed the same area they put the hot glue?
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Thank you! Good to know!

Do you only bed the same area they put the hot glue?

I bed the recoil lug and tang for 2 points of contact..

I glass bedded these 2 rifles at the same time...
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They were both sitting in epoxy when the picture was taken. Notice all the blue tape on the stock.. Ha ha..
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Beautiful rifles guys!

Olgrouser, your Supergrade looks great in the B&C stock, good idea to save wear and tear on the purdy wood it came with! And the Fwt is very classy.

Sqweeler, an XTR standard in 6.5x55 like that is one of my dream rifles. How do you like it?

Just won this in an auction. Its a 270 Win. Never loaded for or hunted a 270 yet. Going to try it as-is, but really tempted to rebarrel in 6.5x55 or 7x57. You guys are killing me with those rifles!

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Hey that's a mirror image of a .270 I picked up not too long ago!

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Oh wow, no kidding tmitch! I have the wrong handed clone of yours haha. How do you like it?

BSA, thanks for the pictures and explanation. Looks like the job came out great.

Really digging the look of the red/orange pads as well
Here's a picture of my early LH Model 70 in 375 H&H, shoots great !

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Here's a picture of my early LH Model 70 in 375 H&H, shoots great !

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Sweet rifle. They don't make them like that anymore. You better hang on to that one..
my current collection

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This is an older picture so a few more have followed me home but I have a couple.

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You’re almost out of control 160!
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This is an older picture so a few more have followed me home but I have a couple.

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Nice collection. Do you sleep with all of them?
My push feed .375 H&H on a recent moose hunt when I didn't see squat for moose, but the grouse kept me occupied. No, the .375 didn't account for the grouse.

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And my pre-war .270 Win.

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My push feed .375 H&H on a recent moose hunt when I didn't see squat for moose, but the grouse kept me occupied. No, the .375 didn't account for the grouse.

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That’s a cool pair of rifles.
Been posted elsewhere but I don't think on this "Let's see" thread. The last 2 Model 70s to follow me home, both customized post-64s.

.375 Stainless Classic with drop box mag
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This is the only one that I own. It's a gay .270, but it's the nicest shooting rifle I own. I bought it from 7X57STEVE before he passed away. Obviously he did some work to the trigger because it's sweet. I think the scope is a Leopold VX3 3.5-10x40.

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That is a great looking lefty! Thanks for sharing.
Posted recently in the lefty section as well. One of these days I should see how well it shoots. Classic Stainless BOSS in .30-06.

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Top to bottom;

280 Remington, Classic Featherweight
300 Weatherby, Classic Sporter
338 Win Mag, Classic Stainless
7mm Rem Mag, Classic Sporter

All in McMillan Bridges Edge stocks, save the Weatherby, Regular fill.

There are others.
What's the LOP on the .280? It looks considerably shorter than the rest.

Nice rifles, BTW.
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280 Remington, Classic Featherweight
300 Weatherby, Classic Sporter
338 Win Mag, Classic Stainless
7mm Rem Mag, Classic Sporter

All in McMillan Bridges Edge stocks, save the Weatherby, Regular fill.

There are others.


That is an awesome bunch of rifles!
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What's the LOP on the .280? It looks considerably shorter than the rest.

Nice rifles, BTW.


Camera angle I think. 13.75 iirc.

The others are at 13 7/8 - 14"

Thanks Scotty!
Classic sporter in a 264 win mag

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Middle one classic featherweight 5 digit 7-08
Bottoms one classic featherweight 6 digit 6.5x55 Swede
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Nice trio!

Here's another 6.5x55

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Classic sporter in a 264 win mag

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Middle one classic featherweight 5 digit 7-08
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We must run on the same track John! I have all four of those as well. Although the 264 is in a Hunters EDGE now, but the 6.5 and 7-08 Featherweights are in wood as is the Sporter 25-06.

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Nice trio!

Here's another 6.5x55

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Oh man now that’s a rare one..
Scotty, that 7-08 is a looker!
Story on my 7-08 I bought it from a fella in Colorado. He retired from the Air Force and while stationed in Japan he bought this rifle at kadena airbase Japan, when they still sold firearms overseas.
Nice rifles guys. The Classic fwt stock is one of my favorites.
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Beauties, guys! Some great looking stuff!

A minty New Haven Classic Sporter in 270 that i picked up recently. Cool, but no I did not pick those mounts wink

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JES rebored this Pre-64 FWT .243 to .358 Winchester, my latest project gun. The .243 bore was in pretty bad shape, wouldn't group, metal was OK, stock had been redone, but not so well.

Here's a link. You'll have to scroll back to the start to see the whole project.
https: www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/16614398/re-358-win-pre-64-fwt#Post16614398

Current load is 178 gr. Hammer over 46 gr. RL-7. Shoots around an inch. I took it deer hunting this weekend, didn't get a shot. Waiting to see what this load will do to a WT.

Glassed and free floated. Vintage trigger tweaked to 3#'s with no perceivable creep or overtravel, just a clean break. And yes, the old M-70 trigger can be adjusted to near perfection.

DF

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280 Remington, Classic Featherweight
300 Weatherby, Classic Sporter
338 Win Mag, Classic Stainless
7mm Rem Mag, Classic Sporter

All in McMillan Bridges Edge stocks, save the Weatherby, Regular fill.

There are others.


Nice group of classics !
some of those are in hard to get chamberings.

not familiar with the bridges style stock. I've seen the legend in some pics on here before. The forearm looks a little like a legend but the grip is on your stocks is more open..
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JES rebored this Pre-64 FWT .243 to .358 Winchester, my latest project gun.



Never get tired of seeing this rifle.
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280 Remington, Classic Featherweight
300 Weatherby, Classic Sporter
338 Win Mag, Classic Stainless
7mm Rem Mag, Classic Sporter

All in McMillan Bridges Edge stocks, save the Weatherby, Regular fill.

There are others.


Nice group of classics !
some of those are in hard to get chamberings.

not familiar with the bridges style stock. I've seen the legend in some pics on here before. The forearm looks a little like a legend but the grip is on your stocks is more open..


More open grip, slimmer through the forend as well.
That’s a good looking rig DF.
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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
JES rebored this Pre-64 FWT .243 to .358 Winchester, my latest project gun.



Never get tired of seeing this rifle.

Thanks,

It's been a trip, for sure. Probably the most contorted Loony project of my Loony career.

But a lot of fun.

DF



You don't see many Winchester Model 70 Laminated Classics anywhere these days. I bought this one back in mid 2002 when they were first introduced, I've seen a few chambered in 300WSM and one other in 270WSM, although I cant say I've ever seen one chambered in 7WSM. From memory, they were only made between 2002-2004.

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Beautiful stock!
That's a nice rig. Looks like it works....

DF
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You don't see many Winchester Model 70 Laminated Classics anywhere these days. I bought this one back in mid 2002 when they were first introduced, I've seen a few chambered in 300WSM and one other in 270WSM, although I cant say I've ever seen one chambered in 7WSM. From memory, they were only made between 2002-2004.

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Very nice rifles!
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Lightened it up a little in the Bridges.

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I like that! That spells sheep all day long...even though we don't have very many in Florida...
This is my pre-64 30-06 in its natural habitat yesterday morning while elk hunting. It was originally a standard weight 30-06 with the low comb stock. It has evolved! It now has a 30-06 Featherweight barrel date coded 59. It also has a featherweight stock that I picked up at a gunshow for a few dollars. The stock had an old hard rubber pad on it and had the top left of the forend split off. I replaced the pad and glued a piece of walnut on it to repair the break. I used it for many years that way and it got pretty rough. A couple years ago I whittled on the stock to shed a few ounces and improve the looks to my eye at least. I shortened the forend, cut the nose of the comb back to give more room for my big hand and cut a bit off the back of the comb. Then I stripped it, steamed the dents out, sharpened up the checkering and varnished it. You can see the repair on the left side of the forend. It could use a reblue since the bluing is either worn off or thin. It weighs just shy of 8 lbs. with Leupold 4x and sling. Good hunting rifle!

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This is my pre-64 30-06 in its natural habitat yesterday morning while elk hunting. It was originally a standard weight 30-06 with the low comb stock. It has evolved! It now has a 30-06 Featherweight barrel date coded 59. It also has a featherweight stock that I picked up at a gunshow for a few dollars. The stock had an old hard rubber pad on it and had the top left of the forend split off. I replaced the pad and glued a piece of walnut on it to repair the break. I used it for many years that way and it got pretty rough. A couple years ago I whittled on the stock to shed a few ounces and improve the looks to my eye at least. I shortened the forend, cut the nose of the comb back to give more room for my big hand and cut a bit off the back of the comb. Then I stripped it, steamed the dents out, sharpened up the checkering and varnished it. You can see the repair on the left side of the forend. It could use a reblue since the bluing is either worn off or thin. It weighs just shy of 8 lbs. with Leupold 4x and sling. Good hunting rifle!

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That's a fine hunting rifle. Love the photo's too.
Thanks. It is my favorite rifle!
Great looking rifle, Mark! And very cool stuff Beretz and Dingo!

Managed to get an older Leupold Rifleman kicking around here set up in some Signature Zees.

Turns out it makes meat. Only a spiker but hunted dang hard for him.

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You’re almost out of control 160!

Almost?

laugh

DF
May already be up but my 416 Remington works. A do it all rifle. When the African travel dust settles I will head back to Zimbabwe.

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Nice rifle, nice kitty....

Here's me shooting my buds .416 Rem, M-70. He got me to work up his loads and sight in his rifle. He and I both had right shoulder surgery by a specialist in New Orleans who's also a hunter. He got me to send our doc this video. Doc was impressed. I've shown this video before.

Camp is built up due to flooding. Pretty nice set up.

Hit the mute button to hear the gun. You can tell it's got some punch at both ends. I was shooting 400 NPT, 400 SAF and 400 Swift Breakaway's over 4064.

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DF
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If that is a Carbine I have one just like it though not NIB. Mine has a little "experience".
Yes carbine.
It took a while and some digging but I finally found mine. Cute little rifles!

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While looking for it, I "rediscovered" one of my favorites. Not the best or the rarest but a personal favorite. I like peep sights, pre-war guns and 300 H&H. It took a long time to find one that didn't have the rear bridge drilled or a pad added too.

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Nice.
That is nice...
160, that’s a dandy pre war.
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