I know of a rifle so described that I believe I can acquire for about $1500. It appears to be original and in very nice condition, about 90% in my estimation. What do you guys think?

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Photos would help, if it is original and a true 90% the money is about right... You never pay to much for a nice pre 64 mod 70, you may buy a little to soon! LOL very best WinPoor

Pics would be helpful, but not a bad deal if in original condition (gun should not have a pad)....

$1500 price might be slightly high, IMO. For a 90% rifle that's all original, market value is probably in the $1100-$1300 range.

This year I have purchased six 300 H&H rifles. A 1952 Sporter in in 98% condition for $1300. The other 5 all had cut or custom stocks and I paid less than $900 for each of them.

People are typically asking a $1500-$2000 for .300 H&H rifles on GB, but those rifles aren't selling. looking back though the past 90 days of actual sales, I only found 3 rifles which sold on GB. None is an exact match to an unmodified Sporter with 90% finish, but they give you some idea of the prices the market will bear right now for a .300 H&H.

A cut Super Grade for $1251 - http://www.gunbroker.com/item/598198634

A cut Sporter for $900 - http://www.gunbroker.com/item/588523242

A badly modified sporter for $695 - http://www.gunbroker.com/item/591348993

I'll have to work on those links later...gotta go someplace.

Exactly. If it's all original at least... The thing that concerns me is, we've had guys ask the same questions, saying the gun is "all original" as far as they can tell. They post pictures and sure enough, it's been monkeyed with... One of the first things I'd look at is the butt plate. Is it steel? When exactly in the "50" was this rifle manufactured???? There's a lot of questions the enquiring minds want to know....

Yep, pictures not coming through on my end. Photobucket has been a real biotch for me lately. I think it's my ad blocker. But then again, without ad block I can't use this site... I'd love to see pics of the rifle though..

Keeping in mind this guy is a gun buyer/shop owner. Market value is around $2,100.00 for a true 90% condition rifle. One thing I almost live by is something a friend of mine used to drill into my head about his gundealer friend: That was "If he can't steal them, he's not buying them".... True words, true chit. I've done the gunshow buying bit, I've even had tables set up at gunshows. I've seen just the magnum receivers sell for $1,100.00. These were complete receivers with bolt, trigger and bottom metal. We also don't want to get into a discussion about what I've bought and the prices I've paid for some pre 64 items. That doesn't mean that's "market value" either.... Hint..

Gun looks very nice to me (it's missing front sight hood). I'd try for a little better price, but would definetly like to own it....

If the photos Im seeing are the 300 H&H , it looks honest and 85-87 %, WERE I selling the gun,rig, I too would want 1400-1500 skins. I have been buying,trading, shooting,collecting these things for a long while, I feel the market has softened a bit SAVE the 95% + guns, they do not seem to weeble,wobble very much . my 2 C, the very best new year to all WinPoor



A pre 64 Mod 70 Winchester is a lot like a good,great dog except it will not die on you and break your heart !!

I can't argue with you, BSA, about what I am willing to pay for rifles for my business. I pay wholesale prices, otherwise I lose money on the business. That being said, the actual GB sales I posted do reflect market value. Speaking of which, $1250 for any Super Grade is probably money well spent! I wish I had spotted that one going through!

I also agree that where a rifle is sold can make a huge difference in what it sells for. A rifle selling at RIA will go for more than the same rifle at Gunsamerica.com. Appraised value on guns leans toward an auction sale like RIA, even though the auction house is going to get 15%-20% of that value. Gunshow prices can't tell us much, as they are all over the map - everything from bargain basement prices to wishful thinking.

Looking at the photos of the "90%" rifle, I do think it looks pretty good. $1500 as a retail price may not be too far off.

hey mod 70 guys, we all look at this thing,(mod 70 ) thru a different set of eyes, Jeeze I wish I knew how many Ive let go for what I had in em' or maybe make a 50 skin bill. Ive bought em low and Ive paid top market if I wanted the darn thing, it usually all works out .. v best WinPoor

So if you walk into the local gun shop and there is a 85% bull rifle in 300 magnum priced at 1540?

If the gun is right, Buy It....

If it's original, it is worth several times that amount. What year?

Pre 64 check your PM's
Buy the Bull, I have a story on a Bull gun I haggled over a few hundred bucks, it was in 300 WinMag ( late 50's early 60's gun), not 300 H&H. Little did I know way back then (prob late 80's, Prob Randy Shuman ) very ,very few BULLS were mfg in 300 win mag ! 2 or 300 bucks would not have made squat in the big scheme of things now! the very best WinPoor

The .300 H&H was supposedly made in 1956.

It's in the years of production which are most sought after. I don't think you'd regret paying $1500 for it.

I sold one in about as good of condition last year for $1850.

1953 Yep the rifle is original has no sights but all blocks are present, I have been thinking about mounting a modern optic to see what it is capable of. Sitting on the rack right next to it was a national match probably 90% original condition no sights for her either by again all blocks present. I won't even tell you guys the price except to say I was told it had a bad bore and the price reflected it. I never looked at the bore until I brought it home and cleaned it the bore looks almost perfect to me. Sadly I have no provenance or information on the pair and the store employees do not want to share a name. I would really like to find the original sights and visit with the previous owner.

ctw, I have 3 cigar boxes of Redfield irons if you need any. WinPoor
I too took a chance on a 'bad bore, shot out gun' all it took was a military, strip to the metal cleaning and the gun shot some 1/2 inch groups, it was a 220 swift, std barrel gun. On your NM a fellow would be damn beat up to shoot it out! I did buy a gun out of the midwest that was cooked, someone got on a dog town and could not help themselves, the damn thing looked mint, dealer had no idea and made the gun good, I bought another from him.. good fellow

The 300 H&H is a good buy and I wouldn't hesitate a bit on it. You can find a front sight hood of E-Bay for $40-50 if you want one. It's a great cartridge as well.

WP rear peep sight for a M71 let me know.

Hmmm. Looks like that very same rifle is being offered for sale on a different forum for a somewhat higher price...at least the pics are the same

Yup. He's stuck on his price, and I think he's going to end up keeping his rifle because I'm probably the biggest M70 fan on that other forum and I really would love to own one in .300 H&H (while practically everyone else there thinks they have to have a 6.5 Creedmoor in a sniper stock with a bigass boltknob and FFP scope), and I shore as hell ain't payin that much for it.

Most if not all of my irons are for Win 70 ans 52's, I will check if any will cross match... VB WinPoor

I think a .300 Win Mag would have to be '63. IIRC, they rolled out that round the year they dropped the Pre-64. I had a nice, near mint Pre-64 in .300 Win Mag, not a bull, just a std sporter. Probably one I shouldn't have traded...

DF

Yep, I have one now Im going to sell, it matches Rules book as a late one, proof mark on top of receiver, alum floor-plate, mine had a pad added and it needed it! I have another uncut stock for it. Its a good shooter but I like my .264 win mag better.. very best WinPoor

I would have bought this the day the pics were viewed, then called pre64win for a correct front sight hood.

Nice rifle indeed, i wouldn't sell my standard 300 H&H for that price.

I'd have bought it in a heart beat and I already have two!

It's for sale on the Texas Hunting Forum Classifieds.

Not a bad buy.

RiverRider didn't buy this rifle?

Went and looked at the add, says $1850, where'd I see $1500?

That's just it. I figured the seller was padding his price, which includes what I believe is a Vari-X II 2-7x33 and that $1500 would get the rifle sans scope. I offered a little under that to open, and the guy doesn't want to move. It's a nice rifle, but I'm not paying that much for it because I don't want it that bad. If he'd come back at me with $1500 I would have jumped, but he didn't and I didn't either.

This is what I thought too, and would with both boots jump on the combo for $1500.

I didn't find the site where it's listed. What is he asking for it now? I thought it was $1500 and that would be a good deal.

I found the site, last check yesterday he was stuck on 1850 for the rifle and scope.

That's really not that bad but as I said I have two already. The scope isn't worth much IMHO and if I were interested I'd ask the seller to omit it in the deal. If he keeps it long enough he might come around. $1500 for that gun is a bargain IMHO.

Yes, if it sported a 3.5-10 I may jump at 1850, the 2-7 would have to be replaced anyway.

Agreed, I put a 4X12 on the SG 300 H&H and I love it. The std wears an old Redfield 3X9. Old eyes and failing light that larger scope reveled a small spike that I initially thought was a doe during our late season antlerless season. It gets dark by 5:30pm just when the deer start to come out.

One could easily sell the Leupold for $150.00....

Actual value what I see in the picture is $1375. You can do better if you find .30-06 in same shape. I say this because you gain nothing from .300H&H except higher price of brass and loaded ammunition.

The old pre-64 300's just look right with a gloss 3.5-10 or 4-12 Leupolds.

That being said, i really should replace the steel tubed Weaver 4-12x40 AO on my pre-64 super grade in 300 H&H, iirc, I have read here that those old scopes can fog on the inside.

That's a very nice rifle at a very fair price.