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Posted By: MonkeyWrench .308/20 ga? - 10/17/23
Never fails: Every time I bring the shotgun, I see elk; every time I bring the rifle, I see grouse. Does anybody manufacture a new .308/20 ga combo gun? I used to think that Krieghoff made them for about $5K, which is a lot for me, but I don't see it on their website anymore. Don't particularly want to change calibers. Anybody here got a used one they want to sell? Thanks in advance!
Posted By: pete53 Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/17/23
keep an eye on Guns International .com i seen a Krieghoff O/U 12 GAUGE -308 on there once. good luck,Pete53
Posted By: haverluk Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/18/23
Heym 26B and the Blaser 95B/97B are very nice but may be at or north of $5k
Posted By: gizzyman Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/18/23
You won't find a good one for under a LOT OF $$$.

If you can live with a 12ga there are many more options. You no doubt prefer a light and trim 20/308, and if you pony up you can have one made, a Ferlacher by custom shops in Austria. There's also a year or three wait.
Posted By: MonkeyWrench Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/18/23
I would prefer a light and trim gun, and it looks like Blaser might be the way to go. Thanks, gentlemen.
Posted By: MonkeyWrench Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/18/23
What do you all think of this as an elk/grouse gun?:

https://www.gunsinternational.com/g....cfm?gun_id=102466744&contact_sent=1
Posted By: savage2400 Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/18/23
I think you'll find something similar over at Double gun for less
Posted By: MonkeyWrench Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/18/23
Thank you. I will check there.
Posted By: luv2safari Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/19/23
Here is the most accurate and best BBF for the money. I have it's twin. I also have an extra Sako type scope mount for one that works well as a QD mount.

If you decide that a 12ga would work for you, I'd watch the bidding for this gun. Note that it has cleaned up rust spots. They're in common spots for the Valmet guns.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1013821629
Posted By: savage2400 Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/19/23
I had the 2400 great gun but I always had the itch for a 30-06 gun ---like this>You can always use a chamber insert to reduce to 20ga.
https://www.gunsinternational.com/g...ombo-gun-12ga-30-06.cfm?gun_id=102081265
Posted By: luv2safari Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/19/23
Originally Posted by savage2400
I had the 2400 great gun but I always had the itch for a 30-06 gun ---like this>You can always use a chamber insert to reduce to 20ga.
https://www.gunsinternational.com/g...ombo-gun-12ga-30-06.cfm?gun_id=102081265

The big problem with these is a scope mount that is proprietary. They now cost around $300.00 and are hard to find. The earlier and slightly different 2400s use the common Sako system, common and less than 1/2 the price of the ones for the 412 type mounts.
Posted By: geedubya Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/19/23
Caveat Emptor.

I did one deal with the dealer in the link above. I have not and will not do another.

ya!

GWB
Posted By: savage2400 Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/19/23
thats a conversation stopper --LOL
Posted By: luv2safari Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/19/23
Originally Posted by geedubya
Caveat Emptor.

I did one deal with the dealer in the link above. I have not and will not do another.

ya!

GWB

I got revenge for you. I got this BSW two barrel cape gun-SXS set from him for about 1/2 what it's actually worth. wink
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Posted By: Fireball2 Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/19/23
Originally Posted by MonkeyWrench
Never fails: Every time I bring the shotgun, I see elk; every time I bring the rifle, I see grouse.

Every time I've tried a combination gun in the last 40 years it screws me up somehow. LOL

Couple days ago I went grouse hunting but it's deer season so I took the BRNO 22HP/12 gauge. Pouring rain.

I don't shoot 12 gauge for grouse but I wanted to be able to shoot a deer if I saw one, dammit. How do you miss a broadside buck at 75 yards 22 HP that shoots great and a grouse sitting on a limb with a 12 gauge? So, I missed a buck and a grouse. That's pretty much my experience with every combo gun I've ever tried. Misfires, oh and I shot a nice blacktail with #6 shot once. One disaster after another.

I'm thinking about giving up on the multi-purpose gun altogether and shooting grouse with the .284 or 7 mag from now one.
Posted By: RSherburne Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/19/23
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by savage2400
I had the 2400 great gun but I always had the itch for a 30-06 gun ---like this>You can always use a chamber insert to reduce to 20ga.
https://www.gunsinternational.com/g...ombo-gun-12ga-30-06.cfm?gun_id=102081265

The big problem with these is a scope mount that is proprietary. They now cost around $300.00 and are hard to find. The earlier and slightly different 2400s use the common Sako system, common and less than 1/2 the price of the ones for the 412 type mounts.


I have a few Valmets, was not interested in the $300 mounts. Found a place in Finland, shipped to me for a lot less:

https://varuste.net/en/p51049/sako-optilock-scoupe-mounts-for-tikka-412s-512s-and-valmet-petra

They have gone up a bit since I bought but not much. Superb quality.

RAS
Posted By: geedubya Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/20/23
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by geedubya
Caveat Emptor.

I did one deal with the dealer in the link above. I have not and will not do another.

ya!

GWB

I got revenge for you. I got this BSW two barrel cape gun-SXS set from him for about 1/2 what it's actually worth. wink
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Be sure it works before you leave the FFl that does the transfer.


Just Sayin'

GWB
Posted By: geedubya Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/20/23
Incoming........


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AS near as I can tell at this time, this is an older Luxus Grade Blaser BBF95, 12 gauge over 308Win, as it has the fox/ducks engraving on one side and the roe deer on the other.

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Comes with a 222 Rem insert for the 12 ga. barrel.

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A 12 ga. slug over a 308 Win. should be the ticket for hogs!

ya!

GWB
Posted By: luv2safari Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/20/23
Originally Posted by geedubya
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by geedubya
Caveat Emptor.

I did one deal with the dealer in the link above. I have not and will not do another.

ya!

GWB

I got revenge for you. I got this BSW two barrel cape gun-SXS set from him for about 1/2 what it's actually worth. wink
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
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Be sure it works before you leave the FFl that does the transfer.




Just Sayin'

GWB

I went 5 for 6 on quail with it this morning, and the cape gun barrel set shoots the 8X57IR three shots right at an inch if I cool the barrels between shots. The 2 1/2-8 scope is a store re-branded S&B.

My stepson wanted to buy it recently but was short on funds, so I decided to keep it. The gun is bank vault tight and unmolested except for the recoil pad and scope added. It's unique in that it's a two-barrel Pre War set that hadn't been thrown on a pile in the streets and had the barrel set separated.

BSW was the last true Simson incarnation, before the Nazis stole the business and plant and branded them Gustloff Werke.

That Blaser BBF is a great combo, especially with the full length 222 einstecklauf. It's a more useful insert than my 22 Hornet was that resided in my Kreighoff Trumpf drilling. I sold the Hornet to a guy in PA who is dying of cancer; he wanted it, and I had no use for it really. Made him happy.

What make is it? Zimmerman?
Posted By: luv2safari Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/20/23
Originally Posted by RSherburne
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by savage2400
I had the 2400 great gun but I always had the itch for a 30-06 gun ---like this>You can always use a chamber insert to reduce to 20ga.
https://www.gunsinternational.com/g...ombo-gun-12ga-30-06.cfm?gun_id=102081265

The big problem with these is a scope mount that is proprietary. They now cost around $300.00 and are hard to find. The earlier and slightly different 2400s use the common Sako system, common and less than 1/2 the price of the ones for the 412 type mounts.


I have a few Valmets, was not interested in the $300 mounts. Found a place in Finland, shipped to me for a lot less:

https://varuste.net/en/p51049/sako-optilock-scoupe-mounts-for-tikka-412s-512s-and-valmet-petra

They have gone up a bit since I bought but not much. Superb quality.

RAS

That looks like a super mount for the 412 guns and clones, and...it is an Optilock! cool cool
Posted By: geedubya Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/20/23
The 222 Barrel insert is labeled "B.Fritz, 222 Rem

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The Keppeler insert barrel (formerly known as the Fritz insert barrel ) was one of the first on the market in 1980. The unique VVV adjustment was developed and patented based on years of experience and own use."

and here is a link......

https://www.keppeler-te.de/pages/produkte-products/jagd-hunting/einstecklaeufe-insert-barrels.php

I was told that this rifle was from the 80's, but i do not see the 4 adjusting screws the Keppeler insert is shown to have.

I hope to have Tobi with T&G German Imports take a look and see what info he might have.



Ya!

GWB
Posted By: MonkeyWrench Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/22/23
Is this a gun you have for sale now?
Posted By: geedubya Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/22/23
Originally Posted by MonkeyWrench
Is this a gun you have for sale now?

If that inquiry is directed my way, no, it is not for sale.

Best,

GWB
Posted By: texken Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/23/23
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by MonkeyWrench
Never fails: Every time I bring the shotgun, I see elk; every time I bring the rifle, I see grouse.

Every time I've tried a combination gun in the last 40 years it screws me up somehow. LOL

Couple days ago I went grouse hunting but it's deer season so I took the BRNO 22HP/12 gauge. Pouring rain.

I don't shoot 12 gauge for grouse but I wanted to be able to shoot a deer if I saw one, dammit. How do you miss a broadside buck at 75 yards 22 HP that shoots great and a grouse sitting on a limb with a 12 gauge? So, I missed a buck and a grouse. That's pretty much my experience with every combo gun I've ever tried. Misfires, oh and I shot a nice blacktail with #6 shot once. One disaster after another.

I'm thinking about giving up on the multi-purpose gun altogether and shooting grouse with the .284 or 7 mag from now one.

you should send it back to the dumb ass that you got it from
Posted By: savage2400 Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/27/23
that savage 2400 sold for 2K--I AM FLOORED
Posted By: luv2safari Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/28/23
Originally Posted by savage2400
that savage 2400 sold for 2K--I AM FLOORED


I know! NUTZZZZ

If it's any indication mine is worth 20% more. I don't have the cancer/rust marks and I do have genuine Sako scope mounts.
Posted By: geedubya Re: .308/20 ga? - 10/28/23
Guess I'm living in the past. It amazes me what folks ask for firearms these days and many times get.

ya!

GWB
Posted By: foxhound Re: .308/20 ga? - 01/30/24
Check out the O/U Zoli 's or
Italian guns from the 60s-70s. Had one, plain Jane but for a little machine engraving. 30-06 and 12 ga. One of the best shooting 2 barrel guns I ever had! Wish I could remember the maker. Good luck
Rick
Posted By: foxhound Re: .308/20 ga? - 03/03/24
Baikal ( Remington Spartan) imported a 308/12 ga O/U. Clunky and club like, but can be transformed, and not terribly expensive. They are tough and reliable, kind of like a Russian truck gun.
They show up on Gb and GI every now and then. Good luck
Rick
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