North,

Interesting observation on your experiencies. Could be that the height to width ratio works either way. Could be thet the problem occurs when the width and height are close to even.

I have been building stoves since the early 70's and I still have a lot to learn.

Ed T

Ed T

Woods,

I would try riviting the piece on the bottom.

Here is my ratio that I have found works well for pipe to stove box. I'll use the medium stove as an example. With a box of 12 x 9 x 8, it has 864 cubic inches. The pipe for the four man tipi is 94" x 3.5" diameter.

Area of a circle is square of diameter X .7854, so 3.5 x 3.5 x.7854 = 9.62 x 94 (the pipe length) = 904.

Divide 904 by 864 (stove volume) and you come up with 1.04.

This is close to ideal. I have gone as low as .66, but the closer you stay to 1 the better the draw.

Ed T

Great Thread....as my small stove is a smoker I assumed small wouldn't work but I just might have to make some mods.

EdT Thanks for the input...nice to know there is more than one way to skin the cat.

Thanks for the info Ed T and the great customer service on my small Kifaru stove.

I use an 84-inch pipe on my small stove for the 4-man and a 5-footer for the Paratipi. The stovepipe is 3-inches but it tends to change shape some during the burn. I don't know if that affects the draw or calculations. I tested the Kni-co with the 5-footer so maybe some burns with the 7-foot pipe are needed. I am going to clamp a piece to the bottom first to see if it helps. If it does than I can adjust the size before riveting.

razorsharp1

I have seen stoves like that before. Never got one due to the small cooking area but sounds like a nice stove just the same.

Woods, did you get a response to your email yet?

I had some stove size questions when I ordered mine, and talked with "Richard," who was very helpfu. I didn't ask, but he kinda sounded like the boss-man.

BTW, I orderd a 94" pipe (5") for the Packer. I'm hoping a long pipe combined with the long/narrow stove config gives me a smoke-free insurance. We'll see.

Woods,

One of the great benefits of the verticle stove is that I mount it to the tipi pole. So it is elevated off the ground. No legs. This allows for a shorter stovepipe. Perhaps an even bigger benefit, though, is the floor space that it opens up by having it elevated. I did not plan for this benefit when designing the thing but found it one of the most useful improvements in practice. The wood, or anything else that needs to be dried, can be stowed beneath the stove. No more burned sleeping bags or accidental kicking of the stove. And having the stove at head height when sitting is much more ergonomic and makes for easier feeding. When car camping and using chairs the stove can be moved up even higher. No more leaning down to feed.
Its not even a pound heavier than the Kifaru large stove. Very backpackable, but items have to be stowed inside to utilize the space. This has not been a problem for me. I have a sacrificial stuff bag that I use to line the inside of the stove to protect gear from soot. Works fine.
No need for snow platform either, obviously, except the tipi pole still needs one.

rz

rz,

I'd love to see a picture of your stove.

Ed T

Ok...I know its been explained a thousand times but I need it told one more time--how do you attach pictures?

rz

If you email the photo to me and I will do it.

Daytraderwon@yahoo.com

I got them. Will post the photos later today. I like the stove.