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#1571465 - 07/29/07 08:17 PM Re: Predator/Timberline actions? [Re: BMD]
2muchgun Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Registered: 02/25/05
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Loc: Michigun
I envy Karl. Would love to have his job, working out of my own house with my own shop and all. He has a nice set-up. Too bad I don't have his skills.....

Poor guy's too busy to get any shootin' in, though.....

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#1571477 - 07/29/07 08:24 PM Re: Predator/Timberline actions? [Re: 2muchgun]
BMD Offline
Campfire Guide

Registered: 05/14/07
Posts: 4218
Loc: Texas
Got it good for sure it sounds like, but he is definitely busy, Might have to drive up there one day and hand deliver one of my next two, I just cant wait to get the one he has back. I am sure he will squeeze in a little huntin time.
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#1571482 - 07/29/07 08:27 PM Re: Predator/Timberline actions? [Re: BMD]
2muchgun Offline
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Registered: 02/25/05
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He don't have to go far to do it. Right out his back door would work. He lives in big buck country. You'd be highly impressed with the whitetails mounted on his wall......
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#1571496 - 07/29/07 08:32 PM Re: Predator/Timberline actions? [Re: 2muchgun]
BMD Offline
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Registered: 05/14/07
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Loc: Texas
I would like to come up there just to see something different than Texas, I dont get out the state too much and have never been up North, so I can see a road trip in the future just to get away and see that part of the country if nothing else. I have a buddy that is a taxidermist that works out his back door as well and we hang out over there a bs about hunting every day it is another job that would be great if I had the skills for it.
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#1571536 - 07/29/07 08:44 PM Re: Predator/Timberline actions? [Re: BMD]
2muchgun Offline
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Registered: 02/25/05
Posts: 12350
Loc: Michigun
I'm a carpenter, and I have a pretty nice set-up in my garage. I love it when I'm able to work right here in my little "shop".....
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#1572973 - 07/30/07 01:22 PM Re: Predator/Timberline actions? [Re: BMD]
300MAG Offline
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Registered: 10/23/06
Posts: 5335
Loc: PITTSBURGH, PA
Still waiting to hear the scoop!!

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#1573818 - 07/30/07 06:41 PM Re: Predator/Timberline actions? [Re: 300MAG]
Al_Nyhus Offline
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Registered: 01/01/03
Posts: 900
Loc: Lower Dakota Territory
 Originally Posted By: 300MAG
Still waiting to hear the scoop!!


300MAG: What clearances does your Predator action have? -Al
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#1574598 - 07/31/07 06:57 AM Re: Predator/Timberline actions? [Re: Al_Nyhus]
300MAG Offline
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Al,

I am not a gunsmith so I have no idea?? I don't have the action either, it is at LSR - he is making the rifle for me.

I am just curious to see what Mr. Stiller has to say about some of these comments on here.

I just couldn't believe that a custom action was only as square as a factory 700??

This is my first custom being built, and I wanted the best I could get with my budget, so I have some concerns now - thats all - Not stirring the pot, just concerned!!!!

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#1576147 - 07/31/07 05:31 PM Re: Predator/Timberline actions? [Re: 300MAG]
Al_Nyhus Offline
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Registered: 01/01/03
Posts: 900
Loc: Lower Dakota Territory
 Originally Posted By: 300MAG
Al,

I am not a gunsmith so I have no idea?? I don't have the action either, it is at LSR - he is making the rifle for me.

I just couldn't believe that a custom action was only as square as a factory 700??

This is my first custom being built, and I wanted the best I could get with my budget, so I have some concerns now - thats all - Not stirring the pot, just concerned!!!!


Why not simply have your 'smith check your action and then you'll know for sure?

We use some short, precision ground tool steel round slugs in .0005 (half thousandths) increments to check the reciever i.d. Just check for fit in the reciever at the front and rear bearing sufaces, then mic. the bolt body at the same place and you have your bolt/reciever clearance. Takes about 5 minutes. And checking the reciever face and bolt face for squareness takes all of about 10 minutes time.

So, in about 15 minutes time you'll know where your at with your reciever.

Which, to me, seems like a better situation than getting people all worked up over what's probably a non-issue with a good product from a fine company. -Al
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#1576160 - 07/31/07 05:34 PM Re: Predator/Timberline actions? [Re: 300MAG]
stiller Offline
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Registered: 12/14/04
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Man, I am gone a week and all hell breaks loose. I am not sure where the Predator having looser tolerances than a Remington came from, but I can insure you that is not the case. The bolt to raceway fit should be .0035 to .0055. Unless someone has buffed off the armoloy or done something to an action, .010 should never occur. IF that is the case and it is unaltered, I will take care of it. Maybe the wire cut oversize or something and it wasnt caught, but that should never happen. As for the TOLERANCES, they are basically the same as the benchrest action. That does not mean the CLEARANCES are though. Different thing all together. The Predator has more bolt clearance on purpose. That way a little grit wont cause bolt lockup or galling. As for square, the boltface is in the .0002 perpendicularity as is the front of the action to its bolt hole. The headspace is usually within .001, but may go to .002. The Predator is a very good action and built the same way our benchrest series actions are. It has the added feature of the anti-bind rail to make it smoother crossing the port the with the bolt clearances that it has, a feature that not many of my competitors have. I could build the bolt with a .001 clearance like our benchrest actions have or some of my competitors. When you are looking down the scope at that big royal elk and get a piece of grit or leaf in the bolt and miss the shot, you would probably be really cussing me though. In all the actions we have built into rifles, we havent really seen any difference in accuracy with bolt fits in the .006 or less range. The tighter fits on the benchrest actions make them smoother etc, but may or may not really help accuracy. I had to admit it, but some of the best shooting guns I have seen on the line at a benchrest match may be an old worn out Panda with more bolt clearance then anyone cares to admit to. That being said, I still prefer you buy a Viper over a Panda ;\)

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