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#1822656 - 11/25/07 12:35 PM Re: Bolt Rifle Blows UP On Hunter [Re: The_Real_Hawkeye]
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You haven't added anything to the discussion, why do you feel the need to keep comming back?

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#1822673 - 11/25/07 12:42 PM Re: Bolt Rifle Blows UP On Hunter [Re: AJ300MAG]
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 Originally Posted By: AJ300MAG
You haven't added anything to the discussion, why do you feel the need to keep comming back?
Actually, AJ, you will notice that my first posts related directly to the topic. It was Magnumb that felt insults were needed to spice up this thread. I merely responded in kind.

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#1822684 - 11/25/07 12:52 PM Re: Bolt Rifle Blows UP On Hunter [Re: The_Real_Hawkeye]
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#1822802 - 11/25/07 01:51 PM Re: Bolt Rifle Blows UP On Hunter [Re: The_Real_Hawkeye]
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.....1......BINGO!! Just as I had predicted.....you just had to have the last word. You never fail to disappoint.

Take AJ's thoughtful and nicely worded suggestion....or perhaps that's lost on you as well.

Just let the real thread continue as requested......





Edited by magnumb (11/25/07 01:52 PM)

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#1822814 - 11/25/07 01:59 PM Re: Bolt Rifle Blows UP On Hunter [Re: msj348]
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 Originally Posted By: msj348


Thanks for the link. Sounds like the shooter is in a bad way.
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#1823191 - 11/25/07 04:45 PM Re: Bolt Rifle Blows UP On Hunter [Re: W7ACT]
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My best wishes for the hunter involved in this unfortunate incident. It sounds like a real tragedy.


I have a question about the following quote.
My cousin has an Eddystone 06 he has refused to shoot for the last twenty five years because he also has heard this old rumor. But I thought it was a myth. I thought all of the Eddystone actions were of superlative strength.

I know of the heat treating problem which was prevalent with low numbered Springfield 03 actions.

 Originally Posted By: W7ACT
My prayers are with the young man and I'm hoping for a speedy recovery.

Now where anywhere in the news does it name the manufacture of the rifle, it's age, or any of the factors causing the catastrophic failure.

If you want to throw a manufacturer in the mix how about an Eddie Stone Action as they do have a proven track record of catastrophic failures due to microscopic fractures in the action that can not be detected unless the action has been magnafluxed. Some of these actions are quite brittle and you have no way of knowing it unless they've been magnafluxed or they have a catastrophic failure.

Another thought is had he dropped the rifle before discharging it getting some sort of obstruction in the barrel. That could have caused the failure as well.

There are too many scenarios


So, what are the facts concerning the Eddystone actions?????
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#1823658 - 11/25/07 07:25 PM Re: Bolt Rifle Blows UP On Hunter [Re: magnumb]
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 Originally Posted By: magnumb
.....1......BINGO!! Just as I had predicted.....you just had to have the last word. You never fail to disappoint.

Take AJ's thoughtful and nicely worded suggestion....or perhaps that's lost on you as well.

Just let the real thread continue as requested......



I'd be embarrassed for you, but you likely don't even realize what a clown you are. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

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#1823672 - 11/25/07 07:32 PM Re: Bolt Rifle Blows UP On Hunter [Re: The_Real_Hawkeye]
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#1823703 - 11/25/07 07:43 PM Re: Bolt Rifle Blows UP On Hunter [Re: Idaho_Shooter]
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As far as I'm concerned it's no rumor as I got my information concerning Eddystone actions from a very trusted and internationally known Gunsmith who is a perfectionest in every sense of the word. I've been in his home a number of times and when he heard that I had an '06 in an eddystone action he recommended that I devest myself of it. His statement regarding these actions was in the manufacturing process a number of these actions there was a flaw in the blending of the medals used in these actions and in the heat treating process and as a result the metal had crystalized leaving small fractures in these actions which can cause a catastrophic failure of these actions. He also said you could probably get away shooting with the one of the actions and they would never fail but there is no way of knowing for sure unless you were to have the action magnafluxed and in his words why go to the added expense as there are to many other good actions out there so why take the chance of having one blow up on you. He broke out one of his gunsmithing manuals and read me the information that was published on these actions so I followed his advise and got rid of the rifle.

The Gunsmith's name is Eugene G.(Ted) Buckland and I have known him for over thirty years. You need to see some of his work it is immaculate and anything he touches is absolutely pristine. I know he also has an antique & Classic Car collection which is out of this world, most of them are European Classics including one 1920's two seat Indy Racer that he has restored from the ground up....
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#1823777 - 11/25/07 08:18 PM Re: Bolt Rifle Blows UP On Hunter [Re: W7ACT]
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Having blown up more than my share of guns, I can attest to the fact that it is extremely hard to bring a rifle to your face in the act of shooting, and not think about it blowing up...again.

Some people have seen the result of blown up guns, but let me tell you it isn't anything like holding what's left after the blast.

You can find all kinds of experts that armchair-analyze what went wrong, all I know is that you can be assured, SOMETHING went wrong.

There is always speculation on which action is weak, or which ammunition was too strong. I have always heard that a Winchester 1876 action is not strong at all, and that is what blew up on me.

When the gun blew, I was holding the gun with my left hand under the action with my elbow against my side for support. The magazine tube was blown into a "C" shape and opened on the seam. The barrel was completely blown off and the forearm was in splinters. The weak old '76 action held with all that exploding.

I didn't even have so much as a bruise, but the gun was in pieces, and alot of them. It also happens that a round in the magazine detonated at the same time increasing the opportunity for disaster.

I was able to trace the reason to ammunition and to this day I thank God no one was hurt. This fellow was not so lucky, hopefully he will recover from his mishap.
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