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#2190144 - 05/07/08 04:19 PM Model 70 actions and Cera-kote
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Hey all you who have had a Model 70 Cera-koted,

What has been your experience regarding the effect of Cera-kote on your Model 70 Classic actions?

The smoothness of the Win 70 action is one of the things that make it so desireable. It just feels like quality when you cycle the bolt((it even sounds well made). Those of you who are familiar with the Classic 70 action know what I mean.

Did Cera-koting the action change this desireable trait in your rifle? Yes/No?

Please explain.

Thanks, Leftybolt

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#2190197 - 05/07/08 04:52 PM Re: Model 70 actions and Cera-kote [Re: leftybolt]
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Lefty, I've had two done to date. One is a .30-06 featherweight, one a .300 Weatherby. Both are classic actions, and I honestly cannot tell the difference before and after.
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#2190277 - 05/07/08 05:40 PM Re: Model 70 actions and Cera-kote [Re: nyrifleman]
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Lefty,
Without giving specifics, it can be done badly, very badly, with just the results you are fearing; choose your 'smith wisely, with references.
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#2190368 - 05/07/08 06:21 PM Re: Model 70 actions and Cera-kote [Re: docdb]
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I would never cera-kote a rifle. It looks like chit to me. I particularly dislike the cera-kote jobs over stainless steel, what a joke.
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#2190702 - 05/07/08 09:22 PM Re: Model 70 actions and Cera-kote [Re: ULA24]
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I think a SS rifle looks like Chit! I had my pre-64 300 H&H done and it is smoother than ever. I had them do something different with the bolt but whatever it is, it's fine.

I still think an NP3 plated bolt is the best way to go; almost feels "soapy."
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#2190927 - 05/08/08 04:11 AM Re: Model 70 actions and Cera-kote [Re: dennisinaz]
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10-4 on the NP3
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#2190986 - 05/08/08 05:22 AM Re: Model 70 actions and Cera-kote [Re: leftybolt]
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Leftybolt,

In 55 years of accumulating nice firearms, I've never once had a firearm rust. If I plan to take one out in the rain, I coat it with Simonize wax. Never had a problem. I personally wouldn't do it. Thanks...Bill.
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#2191014 - 05/08/08 05:51 AM Re: Model 70 actions and Cera-kote [Re: leftybolt]
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Lefty-

I've had a handful of them done - including a M70. It did indeed change the slickness of the action but only for a spell - things get back to normal after a couple hundred bolt cycles.
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#2191017 - 05/08/08 05:53 AM Re: Model 70 actions and Cera-kote [Re: ULA24]
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 Originally Posted By: ULA24
I would never cera-kote a rifle. It looks like chit to me. I particularly dislike the cera-kote jobs over stainless steel, what a joke.


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#2191020 - 05/08/08 05:55 AM Re: Model 70 actions and Cera-kote [Re: ULA24]
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 Originally Posted By: ULA24
I particularly dislike the cera-kote jobs over stainless steel, what a joke.


I think I've read something similar lately? ;\)

I had a 257Wby built on a M700 action as an antelope/deer gun. It sports a 26" SS barrel. I had all the metal coated matte black due to the superb antelope eye sight. I can say that there is no guarantee that I would have been busted with the original SS barrel but I wanted to eliminate one variable. I wasn't worried about rust as a basis for coating.

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#2191395 - 05/08/08 10:00 AM Re: Model 70 actions and Cera-kote [Re: huntem]
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 Quote:
I had all the metal coated matte black due to the superb antelope eye sight.


LMFAO

I'll bet you use a cough silencer too?

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#2191401 - 05/08/08 10:08 AM Re: Model 70 actions and Cera-kote [Re: Bambistew]
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 Originally Posted By: Bambistew


I'll bet you use a cough silencer too?


Ahhh No!

We set two rifles, SS and CM, out in a field at various yardages. It was, by far, easier to see the SS barrel/action. As mentioned, I'm not banking everything on a type of coating. I'm just trying eliminate a negative variable.

Out of curiosity, do you wear any camo while hunting?
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#2191423 - 05/08/08 10:23 AM Re: Model 70 actions and Cera-kote [Re: huntem]
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I actaully like those rifles huntem. At least you did yours for a reason, besides thinking it looks cool.

I think everyone is sensitive and don't want to hurt cera-kote fans feelers by telling them the truth.

Fortunately, I am not a sensitive type, so I have no qualms letting them know that it does indeed look like chit ;\) \:\)

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#2191450 - 05/08/08 10:39 AM Re: Model 70 actions and Cera-kote [Re: ULA24]
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ULA,

Why the pissing match?

Hell, can't anyone ask a simple question around here without getting ridiculed anymore?

I simply asked about the effects of Cera-kote on action smoothness.

I didn't ask for your smart_ss opinion of how Cera-kote looks on a rifle now did I?

Geez, Give it a rest!

Thanks to all who have shared their experience. Even thanks to model70man for his opinion which was offered tactfully.

Leftybolt



Edited by leftybolt (05/08/08 10:44 AM)

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#2191452 - 05/08/08 10:42 AM Re: Model 70 actions and Cera-kote [Re: ULA24]
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 Originally Posted By: ULA24

Fortunately, I am not a sensitive type, so I have no qualms letting them know that it does indeed look like chit ;\) \:\)


Thats pretty funny considering I think the ULA's are the ugliest guns I have ever laid my eyes on.

As for the question, The action I have coated is not a model 70, but I have a model 70 on its way to be. My remington action is butter smooth with the cerakote. Cerakote on cerakote is pretty slick stuff.

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#2191465 - 05/08/08 10:50 AM Re: Model 70 actions and Cera-kote [Re: ULA24]
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 Originally Posted By: ULA24
I actaully like those rifles huntem. At least you did yours for a reason, besides thinking it looks cool. I think everyone is sensitive and don't want to hurt cera-kote fans feelers by telling them the truth. Fortunately, I am not a sensitive type, so I have no qualms letting them know that it does indeed look like chit ;\) \:\)




Well, I'll put Lefty's post back on here for you to review:

Hey all you who have had a Model 70 Cera-koted,

What has been your experience regarding the effect of Cera-kote on your Model 70 Classic actions?

The smoothness of the Win 70 action is one of the things that make it so desireable. It just feels like quality when you cycle the bolt((it even sounds well made). Those of you who are familiar with the Classic 70 action know what I mean.

Did Cera-koting the action change this desireable trait in your rifle? Yes/No?

Please explain.

Thanks, Leftybolt




Unless you had your NULA coated and can speak of the inherent slickness of the action, well, maybe just hold off the feelers, k?


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#2191469 - 05/08/08 10:51 AM Re: Model 70 actions and Cera-kote [Re: ULA24]
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Besides, I went Teflon not cerakote.

Well it won't win a beauty contest. However, covering a 5 shot string at 200yds with a quarter does help crack a smile.


Sorry about that LeftyBolt
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#2191700 - 05/08/08 01:00 PM Re: Model 70 actions and Cera-kote [Re: huntem]
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 Originally Posted By: huntem
 Originally Posted By: Bambistew


I'll bet you use a cough silencer too?


Ahhh No!

We set two rifles, SS and CM, out in a field at various yardages. It was, by far, easier to see the SS barrel/action. As mentioned, I'm not banking everything on a type of coating. I'm just trying eliminate a negative variable.

Out of curiosity, do you wear any camo while hunting?


I'd say about 50/50 ratio for camo/non camo kills. Pretty amazing how all those animals were killed before Realtree or Mossy Oak. ;\)

I'm just razz'n ya little. The last thing I'm worried about is an animal seeing my rifle. Come on... The only time I get worried about colors, flash etc, is when I'm duck/goose hunting.

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#2191717 - 05/08/08 01:08 PM Re: Model 70 actions and Cera-kote [Re: leftybolt]
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 Originally Posted By: leftybolt
ULA,

Why the pissing match?

Hell, can't anyone ask a simple question around here without getting ridiculed anymore?

I simply asked about the effects of Cera-kote on action smoothness.

I didn't ask for your smart_ss opinion of how Cera-kote looks on a rifle now did I?

Geez, Give it a rest!

Thanks to all who have shared their experience. Even thanks to model70man for his opinion which was offered tactfully.

Leftybolt



Should have read your question closer, sorry. No pissing match on my part, didn't you see the smiley faces? Sorry for your feelers getting hurt.

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#2191726 - 05/08/08 01:13 PM Re: Model 70 actions and Cera-kote [Re: kenaiking]
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 Originally Posted By: kenaiking



Thats pretty funny considering I think the ULA's are the ugliest guns I have ever laid my eyes on.


You must not get out much. Take a look at a savage, a-bolt, tikka, etc. Ula's look like scaled dowm remingtons, not bad looking at all.

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