#2190798 - 05/07/08 10:36 PM
Re: Scud-o-rama
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They all look great! A wonderful but often overlooked pattern. I seem to get very subtle and easily overlooked takes with scuds, but they are one of my favorite still or tail water flies. Good job, 1Minute
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#2190876 - 05/08/08 12:11 AM
Re: Scud-o-rama
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Nicely done! I am partial to the Partridge GRS7MMB #14, but I am certain any of those dogs will hunt...
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#2190921 - 05/08/08 03:58 AM
Re: Scud-o-rama
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I like the partridge 14 with the up turned eye. It seems the 12's look too big and the up turned eye looks better. If I had to pick one. I'd fish with any of them though.
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#2191142 - 05/08/08 06:57 AM
Re: Scud-o-rama
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I like 'em! Looks like the Partridge hooks have the right curves without minimizing the gap. Like 1minute said, takes can be subtle, and I miss more takes with narrow gap hooks like the D207 and Tiemco 200R than I do with wider-gap hooks.
Care to share your dubbing blend and eye material?
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#2191384 - 05/08/08 09:53 AM
Re: Scud-o-rama
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Macrabbit: After a closer look, I have a question on the 37160 hook (Bottom left). Is that what we used to call an English bait hook?
I made up scuds and many hairs ears on a similar looking hook several years back and had just horrid hookup percentages. Anyone else have similar or different results??? I loved the shape and look of the flies, but I just couldn't catch much, and went back to more of a straight shank iron. 1Minute
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#2191627 - 05/08/08 12:14 PM
Re: Scud-o-rama
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That Partridge hook, the Jardine Living Nymph model I believe, is my favorite, too, with its upturned eye. Especially since the pattern was designed on a Mustad 7957BX bent up slightly:
That little up-bend adds just the right touch -to us, I don't know about the fish- and gives the fly some character.
You're looking at the dubbing in the background- skeins of yarn, acrylic with nylon sparkle. To the pattern's original mixture, which makes a light gray with tones of olive, pink, and tan, I added colors to try to get a 'translucent olive' effect.
The eyes are made from 25-lb. Mason hard mono, a half-inch piece held in the jaws of a needle-nose plier and melted with a Bic, tied on and then painted black.
It sounds like I'm not alone in having doubts about some curved hooks and 'effective gape'.
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#2191813 - 05/08/08 02:14 PM
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Nicely tied.
Don't the scuds swim with their bodies extended? In that case, I would choose a hook with one of the straighter shanks.
I had used pieces of latex dental dam for the shellback at one time, but it did not last at the ribbing. Are you using ziplock baggie material for your translucent backs?
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#2191908 - 05/08/08 03:19 PM
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I think more or less straight, yes. A fully curved scud is a dead scud.
But since they jet around every which way, and forward and backward, and upside down, etc., and have a body taper, a gentle curve seems good. Straight but curved.
A medium-thick plastic, from baggie or such. Roughed up on one side (the side exposed on the fly) with fine steel wool rubbed at all angles.
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#2192096 - 05/08/08 05:29 PM
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Don't think I've seen a more succulent looking scud than that one. What's the effect of scuffing one side of the shellback material?
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#2192290 - 05/08/08 06:58 PM
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I agree about its succuletariousness. It's the cutest scud fly, of quite a few, I've seen.
Straight baggie is mighty reflective; scuffing it with steel wool mutes that. The designer specified it (and he's beyond asking, now).
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