#2192813 - 05/09/08 06:11 AM
Thinking about buying a Remington M700 Ti as a base for an ultralight rifle...
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achildofthesky
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Any owners, current or previous care to comment on their experience with the M700 Ti rifles. How about accuracy? Do they have the stupid "J" lock? Weights? Thanks in advance for your thoughts and comments.
Some of the rifles here are to partly blame for my jones for an ultralight rifle...
Thanks Patty
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#2193035 - 05/09/08 07:59 AM
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Some nice groups aalf!!
Patty, I have one of the new TI's in a 300 shorty. I've been very pleased with the performance and accuracy. At 100yds, I'm able to create a 5 shot string as one large hole. At 200yds, I'm a little more than an inch.
With over $1K in store credit, I wasn't troubled with making the deal. To pay full price for a new TI, I would probably have saved a little longer and went full custom. Now with that said, I am very fortunate to get a great shooter in a factory package.
Have you established a budget for this adventure?
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#2193062 - 05/09/08 08:08 AM
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My Ti in .270 win shot a 3 shot group of .79" first time I shot it. And that was the first 3 shots after getting it sighted in, so it was a warm barrel by then and using plain Jane Winchester factory 130gr PP's.
I was going to rebarrel this rifle as I don't care for .270's but no way I am rebarreling a rifle that shoots like that.
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#2193069 - 05/09/08 08:12 AM
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Thats a great report Foxbat. If that ol' .270 ever gets in your way...
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#2193376 - 05/09/08 10:33 AM
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I'd say it depends on what you like and what you plan to do with it. In general, the ones I've played with in the standard cartriages were a little muzzle light, and the stock's pistol grip a bit too thick. But they do meet the needs of a really light, practical rifle pretty well. I just prefer a little more weight in the barrel. They can lightend further. Things like going to a foam style recoil pad and a few other things can bring them down to under 6 lbs. scoped. E
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#2193499 - 05/09/08 11:54 AM
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I purchased a new Alaskan TI which is what they call them now I guess - anyway I've had it about 3 months now and am really happy with it. Its a 25-06, cost too much I suppose but I really like Remingtons so thought what the heck. It seems to really like 100 grain TSX Federal ammo, also the 115 grain Accubond shoots real nice groups. I'm not really the greatest shot in the world but after breaking it in it shoots a little under an inch at 100 yards with the TSX ammo so I'm happy with it. In the hands of a good shooter probably get even better groups, maybe 1/2 inch?? Like mentioned the grip is maybe a little thick but overall with a Leupold 3.5-10-40 VX III and low DD Leupold bases it all works well. It will be my new go to gun - I've been shooting a Remington KS Custom Mountain Rifle in .280 for about 15 years and the TI feels just as good.
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#2193562 - 05/09/08 12:36 PM
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I am thinking that a 30-06 will get the nod unless I find a deal on a 308 or perhaps 7mm-08. My thoughts on this are that it will enable me to have the widest variety of bullet weights and styles. I have been reloading 30-06 since I got my first reload set up for my xmas gift when I was 12 (long, long ago!). As far as amount of $$ I haven't really put a total value on the project yet. Going full custom will double and like more the total and a Ti rifle might be pretty close to what I envision. If I decide to play the how low can I go game with the weight I figured I already saving about half a pound by starting with the Ti anyway.
Aalf; nice groups at 300 yards. What glass do you have on those rig's. In the past I have had several 338's and like them immensely, one a Ruger and 2 Remington 700's. An ultralight 338 would be interesting to shoot but I think I can "get by" just fine with an '06.
I currently have a customized M77 Ruger with the tang safety in 280. I has a custom barrel (don't know the maker), beautiful piece of walnut and a really fine trigger (don't know if it is aftermarket) with no takeup and a nice light feel. I like this rifle but am wanting to see how a really lightweight rifle works. Finding a nice balance of light weight and accuracy will be fun. I am likely going to put a 1.5-5 VXIII Leupold I already have on hand on the rifle for hunting and a 4-12 Leupold for working up loads and play.
Please feel free to post pix at will and more comments and suggestons are always welcome. Always like looking at fine shootin irons...
Thanks and be safe Patty
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#2193792 - 05/09/08 02:55 PM
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When word came out that Rem was discontinuing the old Ti's I bought a .260. Sold off the stock, barrel, all the ADL parts, and the J-lock firing pin assembly and got $480 . I believe the .260 barrel will get you the most money back if you are going to tear it up and start over and you want a standard SA. The other calibers don't bring much more than $40 or $50 for the barrel. The barrel alone went for $220 on ebay (you can't sell barrels there now though). I guess there is one born everyday.
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#2193811 - 05/09/08 03:10 PM
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My Ti in .270 win shot a 3 shot group of .79" first time I shot it. And that was the first 3 shots after getting it sighted in, so it was a warm barrel by then and using plain Jane Winchester factory 130gr PP's.
I was going to rebarrel this rifle as I don't care for .270's but no way I am rebarreling a rifle that shoots like that.
Sounds like my 270Ti, wish it shot bad.
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#2194080 - 05/09/08 06:09 PM
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Anybody here gone "full on" with the ultralight thing with a Ti based rifle. Just how low can you go weight wise and still have accuracy like that described here.
How about thoughts on calibers? Like I said I am leaning towards 30-06 as an excellent general all purpose do it all caliber. A medium magnum would be fun but I am not sure that that would take some of the utility from the set up. I am not recoil shy at all and used to use my '06 and first 338 WM on 'chucks back in Pa with the expected hilarious and spectacular results. I have no experience with the short mags or for that matter 7mm-08 but I really like the ability to load up 180 to 200gr or so bullets or back down the scale for varmints.
I have been playing with leverguns for the last couple years and plan on keeping a few, likely a 357 & 44 mag and 45/70 all stainless marlins, but am really having the desire for something different.
Also, anyone that is thinking of selling off one of the 700 Ti's feel free to PM me with details. Sounds more and more like a fun project.
Thanks for the comments and keep 'em coming.
Patty
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#2194109 - 05/09/08 06:24 PM
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That's cuzz you ain't touched of a RUM in a 6 pound rifle........
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#2195133 - 05/10/08 11:04 AM
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I put together a couple ultralights last year. One of them was an older style Ti in '06. Dropped it in a McMillan Edge Compact, and replaced the steel trigger guard, shroud and firing pin with alloy units (Gre-tan shroud and firing pin).
For optics, I went with a Leupold FXII 6X36 matte in low DDs. I like the low DDs with 36mm scope objectives. I considered Tally liteweights and would have shaved another 2oz but placed the scope a little higher.
I kept the factory X Mark Pro trigger due to it's redesign, exellent trigger pull and anti-corrosion qualities. I might have saved an ounce using RifleBasix but big green's new trigger is a winner.
The light-weight titanium action helps balance with the lighter barrels. I thought about using a flip-flop pad but like the durable decelerator, it soaks up recoil and holds up to wear well. I coated the action and scope mounts with matte black KG GunKote and working the bolt is very slick.
I chose the '06 since I've had great results with it in the past, and it will cover almost all the bases fairly well. Recoil is stout even with 150s but very manageable, feels like an 8lb+ 7RM shooting full house 160s.
You'll have to decide what components you can live with and without. I wanted a rugged, ultra lightweight, accurate rifle that could hold up in the backcountry: Weighs a few oz under 6lbs empty and balances just behind the front guard screw. Being the rifle looney I am, I ordered a slightly heavier #2 Rock for her which should improve balance even more.
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#2195144 - 05/10/08 11:15 AM
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That's sweet.
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#2195172 - 05/10/08 11:50 AM
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I have factory Ti's but have not built any customs on them. Knowing what I know now, I think it is better to just buy a used nula. To me, it is better than anything you could build for the same money. They can still be had for 2k or less.
Have you considered a Kimber, I think it is much more rifle for the money, what with the remington massive price increase.
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#2195186 - 05/10/08 12:16 PM
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I have factory Ti's but have not built any customs on them. Knowing what I know now, I think it is better to just buy a used nula. To me, it is better than anything you could build for the same money. They can still be had for 2k or less.
Have you considered a Kimber, I think it is much more rifle for the money, what with the remington massive price increase.
For most folks, that might be a better route. I do most of my own work and have access to dealer prices. So knowing what I know, the Rem Ti was a surefire route to an ultralight rig. And I prefer McMillan handles over the Kimber or ULA handles, they fit me better.
So there is more than one choice to an ultralight, though the routes might lead to different results.
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#2195191 - 05/10/08 12:23 PM
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I saw that step by step build thread you showed a while back Mtn Hunter. If I knew how to do that type of thing, I probably would not own any nulas. Plus the satisfaction in building your own is something that cannot be bought.
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#2198458 - 05/12/08 01:24 PM
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I did a quick search on the build up mentioned by ULA24 in regards to Mtn Hunter. By the way that is one nice looking rig. About what I have in mind.
I guess I will make it official by posting this in the classifieds here and a couple other places:
"Looking for a Rem M700 Ti in 30-06, new or used. Prefer the older style blind mag model. May consider other calibers. Reasonable $$ only."
Thanks for the continued input and please keep the comments coming as ya'll think of them and be safe.
Patty
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#2198661 - 05/12/08 03:45 PM
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FWIW if you can possibly survive with a few extra ounces (i cant believe i said that) an early blue action is the sweetest feeling action you will ever use....
roll you own with a take off tube and a McMillan or the factory stock also works quite nicely..... just a thought while you waiting..
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#2201451 - 05/14/08 04:37 AM
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So far, after scouring the usual suspects of gun trading like Gunbroker, Guns America and the like as well as google searches, several Ti 700's have popped up on my radar screen. Now it comes down to entry price. Any input on a decent price for one of the older ADL style rifles both new and used.
Also, please feel free to drop me a PM if you have one for sale or know of one. I'd appreciate any leads or tips that may be offered.
Thanks again and be safe all...
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