#2220733 - 05/25/08 12:42 PM
Bench Rest Bullets
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It has been several years since I competed in bench rest. We used hand made core and jacket bullets.
I have read that the solid bullets, such as the TSX and others are getting a reputation for very accurate hunting bullets.
Does anyone know if there has been any testing and development on using bullets of this type for bench rest competition?
It would seem logical that if they are more accurate for hunting purposes, they would be an improvement over core and jacket bullets for competition.
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#2236877 - 06/03/08 03:32 PM
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I haven't heard of anyone winning in competition with TSX type bullets. If it happens you'll see a lot of folks make the switch if it's a world record size group.
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#2236937 - 06/03/08 04:06 PM
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I was mainly wondering if anyone is doing any research on it. Looks like there might be some potential, going by what I have read about accuracy with the hunting size TSX type.
Yes, if matches start being won with them, then that will be all you see before long.
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#2236963 - 06/03/08 04:23 PM
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I shot a bunch of what I recall as PRL bullets, super high BC, turned CNC solid bullets. Tips so sharp they would draw blood. I never really found them to be as accurate as cup and core match bullets, though to be really fair, no one worked up the right throat, twist, and land groove issues specifically for them... but at that time(about 13 years ago) they were over 1 buck each.... I was trying to get a solid load around .5 moa and fast out of them, and then use them only on horrible days.
I have some left in a box.... somewhere. Not impressed at all.
Damn near lost a match by tinkering with em too.
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#2237440 - 06/03/08 08:15 PM
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Wow, I have never had tsx shoot better than acceptable for hunting. I cant imagine anyone using them 100-200 benchrest much less long range. I did find that some of the .22s shoot better than the 30s and 7mms and 6mms did, but .25 groups are not going to win anything in decent conditions. Barnes used to make a 55gr fbhp with a blue coating of some type that shot better than any of the tsx have shot for me, but I never tried them in a ppc.
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#2237582 - 06/03/08 09:38 PM
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Some day in the future when the Anti's get lead outlawed someone will develop one that shoots well.
But when that happens we won't have lead batterys in our cars either. Mass transit hello. They won't like us carrying our guns to the range on the bus.
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#2287628 - 07/02/08 06:34 AM
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To the best of my knowledge PRL bullets were not CNC lathe turned. They were however made on copper jackets with Tungsten cores. The point-up dye was made by Ferris Pindell and closed up the normal hollow point, generally seen on BR and match grade bullets. This feature helped the bullets to remain super-sonic out to 1K when fired from the 300 Win. According to "Bubba" Beall, the main driving force behind Powell River Labs, these bullets were deadly on game. He shot moose and elk at long ranges and had great success with them.
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#2293265 - 07/05/08 07:47 AM
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No one is using solid core bullets or TSX in BR. Everyone uses custom made cup and core bullets with J4 jackets. Many shooters make there own.
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#2301532 - 07/09/08 05:35 PM
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There is no reason a precisely made brass or copper bullet couldn't shoot very well....
Actually, there are quite a few reasons why jacketed lead cored bullets are more desireable for accuracy use. -Al
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#2302994 - 07/10/08 12:49 PM
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The Barnes 50 BMG bullets are solid copper. Any idea of that they are used for?
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I have zero experience with 50's other than a long time ago under not match conditions. All the ranges that I frequent do not allow 50's. Re solid core bullets..they may be accurate but I have never seen any used in any matches. Will be at the Williamsport 1000yd world open this w/e and see if anyone is using them. But I doubt it.
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#2303095 - 07/10/08 01:45 PM
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IBS and NBRSA 1000 yd. rules limits bore sizes to 40 cal. and under.
I'm assuming Williamport is the same.
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#2303981 - 07/10/08 10:42 PM
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No there aren't.............   Blaine, please list the reasons why a solid copper bullet (machined or otherwise) is a better choice for accuracy use. Good shootin'. -Al
First off, I did not say solid copper bullets were better for accuracy. As an answer to the OP, I said: "There is no reason a precisely made brass or copper bullet couldn't shoot very well........"
Second, your reply me stuck me as pissy and I am too old to put up with pissy attitudes. However, I decided to give you the benefit of the doubt, assume you didn't have a pissy thought in your head when you posted, and thus respond to you with humorous post.
You did not pick up on the humor. If you had, you'd have known that your proper response for my reply would have been: "Yes there are..........." or perhaps "Yes there are, nanna nanna poo poo....." with a couple of smileys added to make sure the humour was obvious.
With that in mind, why don't you respond to my post again with the proper humour, you tiny-minded wiper of bottoms..........  ?
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#2304177 - 07/11/08 05:23 AM
Re: Bench Rest Bullets
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Blaine, to say I'm taken aback by your response would be quite an understatement.
There was no "pissy attitude" in my post...only a simple question asking you to elaborate on your statement. No more, no less. Anyone that has read any of my postings on several different forums knows that I don't stoop to the kind of small minded, mean spirited responses that we see all too often on the Internet. When topics take that turn, I simply cease my participation. And while no person is perfect, I don't believe people that know me on a personal level would refer to me as having a "...pissy attitude" or of being a "...tiny-minded wiper of bottoms", as you put it.
Finally, as a BR bullet maker, I'm always looking for ways to advance my craft and generate better results. Your statement seemed to indicate that you have some personal knowledge and/or experience with a type of bullet that may be of interest to me and others in the sport. Since this forum is ostensibly for the sharing of information, I assumed you would want to be forthcoming with ideas, experiences, and thoughts about this topic.
My assumption was in error. -Al
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