Big Stick brought up the subject of Toyota's on some thread somewhere. I have to say, they are really a good product. My dad fought the Imperial Japanese in the South Pacific and so did most of his Saturday night poker buds. Growing up around those fellows birthed within me a distaste for all "ferrin death traps" etc.

Well I bought a 92 pick up 5 speed manual with that 4 cylinder 22RE engine and it really really was the best machine I ever bought for any purpose at any time. God bless Dad, but I intend to get another one. Next time it will have an extended cab, but still the 4 cylinder 5 speed manual.

I ain't rich so buying the Toyota is an act of self preservation. I am going broke lately fixing my F250.

you think your going broke with the f250 wait until you have to buy a cylinder head or a clutch for that yota. Thats not the force your feeling looke.

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one shot one kill the more smoke the better

You're right.

When using The Force,you slick up a low mileage crate motor for dick and smugly giggle to yourself.

Dat's happiness.................

My friend's Toyota only had 300,000 miles on it when it died, but he never changed the oil or filter over the last 50,000, just replaced the oil that leaked from a busted seal.

My own Toyota died died after a paltry 215,000 miles, this with NO repairs other than routine maintenance (although changing that timing belt every 60,000 amounted to a major repair IMHO ). Like Big Stick said, we just dropped in another low-mileage motor from salvage and she's running yet.

Whatever the pros and cons of buying Jap, Toyota and their ilk raised the standard on what we expect from ALL our vehicles now (when I was a kid, a paltry 80,000 miles was considered an awful lot on a motor).

'Sides which, my dad was personally involved in that 1940's shooting war, and he bought Japanese AND German cars. Just wait, in a couple of years even our cars will be Chinese, and we'll be debating the merits of Ching Woos or some such.

Birdwatcher

I must say I've never been a fan of those small gutless motors. Too weak.

I liken it akin to goin' 4-stroke on your outboard.

Zero fuss,minimal fuel consumption and damned nice longevity.

No substitute for cubes and if forced to go large,I'd opt a diesel for like reasons. Bang for the buck,nuttin' can touch a Toyota IMHO.....................

On my 3rd Toyota all used ones, first was a 1986, 2 wheel drive 4 cyl. and was like a little race car man would it zip, but gotta have 4 wheel drive where I live, sold it for $500 dollars less than I gave for it after putting 22,000 miles on it. 2nd one was 1987 excab, but no seats in back just room and I took it some places that Toyota would have loved to have a film crew recording it. Again the 4cyl and I would still have it but for some excitable woman that ran a red light last spring and T-boned me in the driver side door kncoking the drive line loose and tweaking the frame so as to total the rig (my verrry bad should have removed the engine it only had 97k on it and was just getting broke in) had to repalace the clutch twice, but not Toy's fault, I used a Fisher snowplow on it and the way my 1/10th driveway is situated had to clutch it a lot to keep from going over a cliff while pushing the snow off. Got the insurance check and went shopping picked up a 99 excab, with the jump seats in back, 4cyl., 5 spd and dang if it isn't just the greatest little truck, much like the 1st two. Probably just a coincidence

Hope I get the chance to wear this one out as my Pard who lives further out than I do, had to replace the timing chain on his p/u after 212k, his wifes 4runner only has 150k but had to replace a heater blower motor on it! Dang Toyotas just always falling apart on a guy

I'm not brand loyal to much, you have to earn my loyalty but to date it is hard for me to imagine my life without a Toyota in the driveway and a Leupie or 4 on my rifles. This aint the easiest country on gear or equipment so if I find something that works well I tend to stick with it. Have had a brand new f-150, Chevy, 2 GMC's a blazer, and IMO their engineers or assemblers can't even begin to think about whizzing in the same trough as the Toy boys. Just my take on it, which means it must be right 1akhunter

Around here the woods are crawling with Toyotas. When hound hunting was still legal, most the hound hunters drove toyotas. On brushy over grown logging roads, full sized trucks get trashed. A huge truck is a payne in the but to get around in the mountains with. That being said on the east side of the Cascade Mountains you see alot more full sized trucks because its all high desert. I've had two jeeps, a bronco, a nissan Pu and now am on my 2nd Toyota I love it. The down side is your not going to be haulin trailers or heavy loads. Who cares cause a drift boat is light anyway.

'89 std cab 2WD 5spd 22RE. 177,000 miles and it needs a timing chain. If it were big enough to pull our camper it would be perfect, but it aint. That's what the F250 diesel is for.

I'm also a Toyota fan, having owned several. Although the drive trains do seem to go on forever, when other dodads break they can cost an arm and a leg. My wife drives a '94 Camry. The passenger door window relay went out and cost $150 to replace. Then the door lock went out with an estimate of $350 to replace. Then the door window motor went out and will cost $400 to replace. I'm now looking for a junked door as it will be cheaper to cannibalize than to fix all the stuff that's broken. We like these modern conveniences, but they sure can be costly. Picking up on this subject, can anyone explain why parts like these cost so much? Is this the case with other brands as well, domestic as well as foreign? I notice that some gun parts seem pretty overpriced, Tikka comes to mind and there are probably others as well. It would cost thousands of dollars in parts to build a rifle that costs $500.

Paul