#2246060 - 06/08/08 10:58 PM
best Varmint stock for 700 SPS?
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Colorado1135
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I just bought a remmy 700 sps to outfit as my first designated varmint rifle.
all I have is the bare rifle, no scope bases even.
so I'm looking for input as to what are the best bases, rings, scope and stock to put on it and even better if you have one for sale.
its a .223 and I'll be shooting allot of yotes and sod pups with it. ( as soon as I get it up and running)
I also need dies, bullets and brass if anyone has any extras they can part with I'm more than willing to take them off your hands!
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#2246615 - 06/09/08 09:57 AM
Re: best Varmint stock for 700 SPS?
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VarmintGuy
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Colorado1135: My good friend Jack from Yelm, Washington bought a Remington 700 SPS (the heavy barrel model) and did not care much for the stok on it.
He called the folks at the Remington factory and arranged to buy a Remington 700 VLS stock from them (pricey!) - this is the lamintaed wood type Varmint stock.
He really likes this stock and the way it looks on his Rifle.
His Rifle is in 17 Remington Fireball and it shoots VERY well.
Gee I wish I had some rings or bases for sale right now - I would get them off to you.
I am partial to the one piece Leupold bases for my Remington 700 Rifles.
And I usually use the Leupold medium height rings on these.
I have been using mostly Redding loading dies of late for my Varmint Rifles. But on a couple of occasions in the last few years I have only been able to find RCBS dies for my needs. These recent RCBS dies have made very "concentric" handloads for me.
I have been very happy with them.
I hope your SPS in 223 will be as accurate as all of the recent Remington bolt action Rifles I have bought have been and are.
And thats the main purpose of my posting to wish you luck with the Rifle and give you some suggestions on gear.
Sportsmans Warehouse has about the best prices of any store I can find on Redding loading dies.
Is your Rifle the heavy barrel SPS model?
Hold into the wind
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#2246906 - 06/09/08 12:50 PM
Re: best Varmint stock for 700 SPS?
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Although I have two on Ruger Sporters, I have seen a few folks who have taken a Rem ADL platform, get rid of the really cheesy factory synthetic stock and replaced them with flat black Hogue Rubber stocks..
Those things fit well and do a nice job on a Ruger, but I have to admit, it looks like they were designed for the Rem 700...
If I was to purchase an SPS, I'd factor in a Hogue Rubber Stock for it right off the bat..
I've done a batch of Laminate Stocks that I have finished for a variety of actions, from both Boyds and Richards..and for the Model 700 Rem, I'd still recommend Hogue for those hands down...Laminate would be my first choice on any other action but the Rem 700...the combo is just that darn good in my book!
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#2247524 - 06/09/08 06:31 PM
Re: best Varmint stock for 700 SPS?
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I have a 700 SPS Tactical and it came with the Hogue Overmolded stock. I wasn't too impressed with it, so I sold it. YMMV. I replaced it with an HS Precision stock off of a 700 LTR. I added a Farrell base and Burris Signature Zee rings with a 3-9 Redfield scope. I'm happy with it now.
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#2247530 - 06/09/08 06:35 PM
Re: best Varmint stock for 700 SPS?
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The original BDL-V stock is the best one of them all.
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#2247779 - 06/09/08 08:54 PM
Re: best Varmint stock for 700 SPS?
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I have a 700 SPS Tactical and it came with the Hogue Overmolded stock. I wasn't too impressed with it, so I sold it. YMMV. I replaced it with an HS Precision stock off of a 700 LTR. I added a Farrell base and Burris Signature Zee rings with a 3-9 Redfield scope. I'm happy with it now.
Well MI Vhunter..
I don't agree with your statement... but then you are talking apple to oranges here... a Hogue is akin to a Chevy... an HS Precision is like upgrading to a Mercedes...It hasn't got the class of the HS, but you have to admit, it sure upgrades the From the Factory Crappo stock... and for a $100.00 vs the $300.+ of the HS, a few of us just have to go with the Chevy here...
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#2248413 - 06/10/08 08:50 AM
Re: best Varmint stock for 700 SPS?
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I wasn't too impressed with the $100 Hogue, little too flimsy in the forend for me. The Hogue with the full-length block is a bird of a different color though, right on par with the HS and the B&C... but then the $ difference is only $100 vs the HS, and less than $50 vs the B&C.
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#2248455 - 06/10/08 09:17 AM
Re: best Varmint stock for 700 SPS?
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IIRC, my friend paid $225.00 for the new VLS stock he bought from the Remington factory for his 700 SPS-V.
I have seen them at gunshows sell for as little as $90.00!
BUT there is never one around when you need one - and my friend is a bit compulsive and needed it THEN.
Anyway he is very happy with the laminated VLS stock on his SPS.
I think I have an early (pressed checkering) 700 Varmint stock downstairs in my den?
If anyone needs one I will make them a good deal on it.
Hold into the wind
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#2249407 - 06/10/08 06:55 PM
Re: best Varmint stock for 700 SPS?
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I have a 700 SPS Tactical and it came with the Hogue Overmolded stock. I wasn't too impressed with it, so I sold it. YMMV. I replaced it with an HS Precision stock off of a 700 LTR. I added a Farrell base and Burris Signature Zee rings with a 3-9 Redfield scope. I'm happy with it now. Well MI Vhunter.. I don't agree with your statement... but then you are talking apple to oranges here... a Hogue is akin to a Chevy... an HS Precision is like upgrading to a Mercedes...It hasn't got the class of the HS, but you have to admit, it sure upgrades the From the Factory Crappo stock... and for a $100.00 vs the $300.+ of the HS, a few of us just have to go with the Chevy here...
Sorry that you took offense to my opinion of the stock, but it's my opinion of the stock and it hasn't changed. My SPS Tactical came with the Hogue pillar-bedded stock and yes, I felt it was/is a "Factory Crappo stock" to use your words. The forearm had excessive flex and I didn't care for it one bit. BTW, if you shop around, you can pick up new HS takeoffs for $200 or a bit less. IMHO, the $100 price difference is well worth the expense and you won't be stuck with a "Factory Crappo stock" when you're done. Again, YMMV.
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#2249639 - 06/10/08 09:01 PM
Re: best Varmint stock for 700 SPS?
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The poster did not state what barrel contour he had but if it is the sporter contour I would recommend a LVSF stock. They are a good solid stock with an aluminum bedding block, they handle well for quick shots but have a flat fore-end if one wants to use them from a rest. The best part is that they are often available in the classifieds for around $125.00.
I have a couple of Rems I have re-stocked with them and have been well satisfied, I believe that they are the best bang for the buck. (pun intended)
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#2249684 - 06/10/08 09:40 PM
Re: best Varmint stock for 700 SPS?
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Are you looking for a synthetic or wood stock? If your going wood I like the #10 from Greg West.
http://www.westcustomrifles.com/
For mounts I have gone to the DNZ one piece for almost everything. By having the rings and bases as one piece you would really have to try to put the scope under any sort of stress. They also make a long range model with 10, 20 and 30moa built into the base. Hard to beat for about $89 direct or about $80 through Midway. The regular height are only $49.
http://www.dnzproducts.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=54&zenid=0a2d45aa66c0f8c4afeb56df797aee29
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#2249778 - 06/11/08 12:38 AM
Re: best Varmint stock for 700 SPS?
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I have a 700 SPS Tactical and it came with the Hogue Overmolded stock. I wasn't too impressed with it, so I sold it. YMMV. I replaced it with an HS Precision stock off of a 700 LTR. I added a Farrell base and Burris Signature Zee rings with a 3-9 Redfield scope. I'm happy with it now. Well MI Vhunter.. I don't agree with your statement... but then you are talking apple to oranges here... a Hogue is akin to a Chevy... an HS Precision is like upgrading to a Mercedes...It hasn't got the class of the HS, but you have to admit, it sure upgrades the From the Factory Crappo stock... and for a $100.00 vs the $300.+ of the HS, a few of us just have to go with the Chevy here... Sorry that you took offense to my opinion of the stock,
Actually I wasn't taking offense, I was attempting to be complimentary in your choice of the H/S Precision...but some of us have to fly with a Hogue, as it fits into the old budget more...
as in my case, I could be a lot more picky about the quality of my components, if I had a boat load less rigs in inventory..
I could look at having a Nightforce Scope on ONE rifle, or having 3 rifles in different calibers all sporting Tasco Scopes..
I've tend to gravitate to the 3 calibers and living with a Tasco Quality scope, and wishing I could put Nightforces on each of them...
that is why I migrating to doing switch barrels now... where I can upgrade stocks and scopes on ONE ACTION with Multiple barrels..
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#2249997 - 06/11/08 06:19 AM
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I'm exactly the converse... I'd much rather have one rifle built entirely from top notch components, than 3 rifles assembled with marginal components.
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#2250084 - 06/11/08 07:04 AM
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I just bought a remmy 700 sps to outfit as my first designated varmint rifle.
all I have is the bare rifle, no scope bases even.
so I'm looking for input as to what are the best bases, rings, scope and stock to put on it and even better if you have one for sale.
its a .223 and I'll be shooting allot of yotes and sod pups with it. ( as soon as I get it up and running)
I also need dies, bullets and brass if anyone has any extras they can part with I'm more than willing to take them off your hands!
I'd go with HS Precision for the stock .. if you want to save a few bucks and don't mind plain black, Midway sells them cheaper than ordering from HS Precision directly and may have what you want in stock. If you got the SPS sporter, not varmint, what I do sometimes is order HS's "african contour" stock which free floats a sporter barrel by a good margin (they say it's meant for a .75" muzzle but won't give me the specifics of taper, shank, etc ... argh)and when get around to rebarreling, then I go with a fluted #5 ... midway between sporter and varmint weight, a perfect packin' rig.
I'm addicted to Leupold dual dovetail base and rings. I've had some issues with the Leupold base screws peeling the threads off 'em so I have small stock of replacement screws from Brownells and have never had an issue with those, just cut 'em to length if I need one.
Glass. Leupold. For the last 15 years or so I've had a 6.5-20X and a 4.5-14X ... I STILL couldn't tell you which I prefer. If that's too expensive, I'd stick with Leupold, drop $200 for a 3-9X. FWIW, I had a 4-12X Leupy Vari X II for a while ... only Leupold I've owned that I disliked. It seemed dim.
I would also recommend trigger work. Yank the trigger mechanism and send it to Neil Jones (he quoted me $65 for a 1 pound trigger job including return shipping 2 weeks ago) or pony up for a Jewell HVR. I'll warn you though, Jewell triggers are like drugs, you try one, you're hooked and ruined for life when it comes to putting up with lesser equipment.
If you're going to be shootin' that thing a lot, I'd recommend RCBS X dies. It's amazing how much time not having to trim, then chamfer case mouths saves reloading. I've got 6-8 sets for different calibers and I'm gettin' to where I'll pick calibers based on whether or not there are X dies available.
G'luck with your new rig!!
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#2259140 - 06/16/08 02:07 PM
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Fast load- 26.2g TAC with 52g bullet
Slower/accurate load (less report-see hits)- 13.6g Blue Dot
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#2261499 - 06/17/08 09:36 PM
Re: best Varmint stock for 700 SPS?
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the bullets I have are 50, 55 grain V-max and 55 grain SP
whats the best powder, or a good solid versatile powder to start with?
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#2272439 - 06/24/08 09:59 AM
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Colorado1135: For the 50 grain bullets and accuracy in the 223 Remington, I heartily recommend H 335 powder.
The heaviest bullets I have settled on in any of my 9 current arms in 223 Remington caliber weigh 52 grains.
I also want to suggest that you trade off one box of the 55 grain bullets you have and buy a box of 40 gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips to try out in your 223!
A couple of my 223's use these 40 grain Noslers and do very well accuracy wise and lethality wise on Varmints.
Best of luck with the heavy barrel SPS!
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#2272578 - 06/24/08 11:12 AM
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The VLS beavertail take-off is a great stock for the money. I bedded my father's 223 Varmint Special in such a stock and it shoots/feels great. It shot well in the original BDL walnut stock, but this one rides the bags much better. I'd take it over an H-S any day. I would also look into chopping the barrel back a bit from the factory 26" if you are going to be shooting off-hand. Balance isn't the best, even with a 24" tube. A 22" varmint weight in the VLS configuration would be hard to hate.
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