#2259030 - 06/16/08 12:52 PM
9.3 Wildcat options
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stephenwhite
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First off, I know very little about wildcatting cartriges and such, although I reload quite a bit. I really like my 9.3X62 and have noticed that there hasn't been a wildcat that gets a lot more velocity in 9.3 like those for the 375 (atleast one that I could find)I was wondering if a 9.3 Ruger based off the 375 Ruger would be possible. What about a 9.3 UltraMag off the 300 RUM? Please forgive my ignorance if I am missing something obvious. Does anyone have any thoughts about the viability of either of these combinations? Thanks in advance!
Edited by stephenwhite (06/16/08 12:58 PM)
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#2259037 - 06/16/08 12:58 PM
Re: 9.3 Wildcat options
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9.3 BS is the only way to go.
Of you wantum speed, I would got 9.3/375 Ruger.
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#2259244 - 06/16/08 03:03 PM
Re: 9.3 Wildcat options
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Has anyone heard of a 9.3 Sisk? From what I could gather it is an 8mm necked up to 9.3 Might be just what I'm looking for....
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#2259433 - 06/16/08 05:46 PM
Re: 9.3 Wildcat options
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The 9.3 BS and Sisk were made by or at least named for the custom rifle maker Charlie Sisk. The BS is IIRC an 8mm Mag case necked up the Sisk is the 350 Rem Mag case necked up.
The 375 Ruger case would do every thing the 8mm Mag case does. Or you could take the 416 Rigby case and make a shoulder mounted field piece. The Ruger case lets one use a larger variety of actions as it is 2.5 inches long.
Pick a case and build. Oh how we like to watch!
I want to make an 8mm with the 375 Ruger case just so I can call it the 8mmwapiti
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#2259468 - 06/16/08 06:05 PM
Re: 9.3 Wildcat options
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9.3 Ruger...speedy.
9.3 RUM...ever speedy.
9.3 STW...ever speedy too.
9.3 Rigby...Wicked Speedy!
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#2259554 - 06/16/08 06:50 PM
Re: 9.3 Wildcat options
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There is a 9.3 Rigby - the 366 DGW. It was developed by a gunsmith in Maine. I'd look at some of the standardized 9.3 cartridges:
9.3x64 Brenneke - Definitely is on par with the 375 H&H in terms of performance. Brass is scarce and pricey and it's got that funny rim dimension but a fantastic cartridge.
9.3x66 Sako (aka 370 Sako Mag.) - Reaches the lower end of 375 H&H performance. Standard (.30-06) rim dimension and is available in the U.S. now - Sako 85.
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#2259669 - 06/16/08 07:46 PM
Re: 9.3 Wildcat options
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Nothing at all wrong with your idea and I do not see where the caliber has been beat to death by too many wildcats like we see in 25-30 cal's. I would Probably opt for the Ruger case and build it on a CRF winny.
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#2260419 - 06/17/08 09:46 AM
Re: 9.3 Wildcat options
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I know the gunsmith who did the 9.3 based on the 416 Rigby. In fact, I have fired the rifle although it is ported so I cannot say what the recoil would be like without it.
FMI go to Cartridges of the World, 10th ED. and find it in the Wildcat section. Another poster on this forum once pointed out that 9.3 mm projectiles were not made to go that fast, but with premiums I suspect they hold up just fine. Our friend hunted the rifle on PG in 2001 with good results. I think his only complaint is the weight of the rifle he built is a bit too heavy but he can certainly discuss specifics with you if he sees this post.
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#2260770 - 06/17/08 01:23 PM
Re: 9.3 Wildcat options
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stephenwhite,
I would tap into the European 9.3 cartridges before jumping into a wildcat; I am thinking the 9.3X64 would be a really good place to begin.
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#2263297 - 06/18/08 08:23 PM
Re: 9.3 Wildcat options
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If this is your first wildcats foray, consider something relatively simple ie. just a straight necking up. Now I'm more of a 35 cal guy then a 9.3 cal guy ... but the 300RUM case necked up kind of makes sense. Add one 320gr Woodleigh PP and 320gr FMJ and that's a whole lot of stomp! There's a few streamlined mid-weights now that make it useful when reaching out too. Use a cheap RemSPS in 300RUM as your donor action to get the modified magazine and rebarrel. A bit cheaper yet but less performance, find a S/H 300WinMag and consider something off the 300WinMag case. A 'smith with a decent reamer and neck/throat reamer selection could do your chambering without the expense of a specific custom reamer. Likewise an engineering shop should be able to open a set of dies for you to get you a 9.3RUM FL die and modify your seater for use to.
Oh ... and beware the lure of wildcats. They're addictive but 99% of the time, hardly worthwhile in a practical sense. But its a hell of a lot of FUN and will improve your skills as a reloader!
Cheers...
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#2285191 - 06/30/08 06:58 PM
Re: 9.3 Wildcat options
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Not as speedy as you want perhaps - but If you wanted a handier short action rifle - a 9.3 WSM would work well I think. I know of a few 375WSMs out there that were a great success.
I rechambered a 350 RemMag into a 350 WSM (35Sambar). It has been a success too and a sensible conversion. The ammo is easy-to-make too. It chronys 2750MV with 250s and 2450MV with 310 Woodleighs with top loads. A 9.3 WSM should be able squeeze out a little bit more power at the muzzle.
The Win70 WSM actions have the longest mag box length I believe of all the WSM chambered bolt guns. So that would make a good donor action I think.
Con's right - cats are fun!
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