#2282700 - 06/29/08 11:50 AM
Interested in going 243AI,..suggestions?
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bayloralum1996
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I've got a Rem 700 adl in 243 and I'm interested in going AI with it. Any suggestions on who to have it done and components (lilja McMillan?)
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#2282707 - 06/29/08 11:53 AM
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not wildswalker's smith.......grin
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#2282789 - 06/29/08 12:34 PM
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safariman
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May as well go all the way to 6/284 or 6mm/22 or 6mm/22 AI. Since you will be paying for some smithing work anyway, no reason to not go with something really special. Not a lot of real world improvement in powder capacity or performance in AI'ing a .243 as they are already a pretty modern case shape and such. The others I mentioned.... now THEM'S a different sort of horse.
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#2282798 - 06/29/08 12:38 PM
Re: Interested in going 243AI,..suggestions?
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safariman
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I just re-read your post. Lots of really good barrel companies and it would be hard to go wrong with Liljia (have one) PacNor (have one) or a few others of good repute around here. I have even had good luck with the less costly and more common Shilen Match grade barrels. Some of the older names like McGowan (got one of those) and Douglas (yep, have a tube of thiers as well) were good in their day but I personally do not consider them to be state of the art anymore.
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#2282835 - 06/29/08 12:57 PM
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not wildswalker's smith.......grin
LOL....Thanks, I just shot Iced tea out my nose...at least it wasn't coffee.
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#2283223 - 06/29/08 05:35 PM
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not wildswalker's smith.......grin
Low phuckin' blow guys...
Chit happens and it's gettin' taken care of.........
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#2283393 - 06/29/08 06:48 PM
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safariman
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OK, I missed something.... Am I to surmise that Wildswalker had a less than stellar experience with a gunsmith or gun butcher? A link to same here would be appreciated.
BAYLORALUM: What is the intended purpose of said rifle when completed? Deer rifle? Long range varmints? Multi purpose i.e. some of each?
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#2283445 - 06/29/08 07:03 PM
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You would be correct Mark, but it weren't mentioned here to the best of my knowledge.
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#2283496 - 06/29/08 07:18 PM
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My Gunsmith here in Dallas builds 6mm-270 Winchester for the prarie dawg gents,several have comnfirmed kills out to 1250 yds.He built 1 for me last year and I used it on deer and hogs with 105gr Hornady AMAX'S,VERY ACCURATE AND DEADLY.
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#2283502 - 06/29/08 07:21 PM
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That should fit a short action Remington.........
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#2283754 - 06/29/08 09:54 PM
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safariman
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L.O.L. Steelie, nice one.
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#2283884 - 06/30/08 03:41 AM
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Mark,
A known quantity who's done much work over the years for me made a first boo boo, easy to fix, and I never bitched...
He's willingly fixing it on his dime, and I'm out nothing but a little time not shooting.
I simply asked a question on another forum about it before I talked to him...since I'm not versed as much as others regarding.
Beyond that, it's noone's business........
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#2284157 - 06/30/08 07:35 AM
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everyone makes mistakes ... how they handle dealing with them, is what tells the tale ...
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#2284536 - 06/30/08 11:57 AM
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bayloralum1996
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OK, I missed something.... Am I to surmise that Wildswalker had a less than stellar experience with a gunsmith or gun butcher? A link to same here would be appreciated.
BAYLORALUM: What is the intended purpose of said rifle when completed? Deer rifle? Long range varmints? Multi purpose i.e. some of each?
It will mainly be for coyotes and Central Texas deer. I have a 700 Mountain rifle 7mm/08 along with now a 280AI so this one is mainly to play with.
I want something quick and handy.
I don't like shooting standard calibers so I would like to do something different with this one.
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#2285067 - 06/30/08 05:47 PM
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safariman
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6/284 or 6mm AI would definatly be different, and fast. Let us know what you decide to do.
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#2285201 - 06/30/08 07:03 PM
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If you're going with a new barrel and stock, you might consider the 25-284. Fast 75 grain bullets for critters and slightly slower, but not much slower, 100 grain bullets for deer.
If elk are on your menu, the 6.5-284 will allow you to shoot fast 85 grain bullets for critters, slightly slower 100 grain bullets for deer, and a variety of bullets up through 140 grains for elk. I know that you COULD load 160 grain bullets, but I can't see any reason to load anything tougher/heavier than the 140 grain Partition in my 6.5mm bore rifles.
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#2285830 - 07/01/08 06:08 AM
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260Remguy
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Since he asked for suggestions about 'smiths and components, specifically citing Lilja barrels and McM stocks, I figured that he was planning to buy a new barrel and new stock, therefore the 25-284 and 6.5-284 suggestions.
Jeff
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#2286218 - 07/01/08 10:52 AM
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260Remguy
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There is no doubt that a 257 Roy is going to be faster than a 25-284, all reasonable factors being equal, but I don't think that it would be very easy to chamber a Remington 700 SA in 257 Roy and have it configured as anything other than a single shot rifle.
Besides, the extra speed of the 257 Roy doesn't gain you much value at normal/reasonable hunting distances. Assuming that you shoot the same 100 grain bullet at 3300 fps from the 25-284 and 3700 fps from a 257 Roy at a target that is 1200 feet away, the additional 400 fps will allow the bullet to arrive on target about 0.03931 second sooner. Is the gain of 4/100th of a second in travel time over 400 yards worth the cost?
I'm planning to buy a Remington 700 stainless SPS in 257 Roy because I can, but I'll probably go afield with 1 of my existing rifles in 25 WSSM, 257 Roberts, 257AI, or 25-284 if I go with a .257" bore rifle.
Jeff
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