#2292165 - 07/04/08 12:21 PM
Re: 223AI vs. 6x47 Rem ?
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Need something small and light with low recoil ...
... 6mm BR, .250 Sav, 6.8 SPC, ...Need something different.
Those three especially seem to fit your needs. What didn't you like about them?
The 6x47 Rem sounds OK, too, but these all seem pretty comparable.
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#2292201 - 07/04/08 12:40 PM
Re: 223AI vs. 6x47 Rem ?
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Why not go 222 Mag? I just had a Sako L461 HB re-chambered/cut to 21" and a 700 on the way. AI ballistics and there are a load of 204 cases that just require a trip through a 222 Mag FL die. I've got a thousand Mag cases and 204's all over; they work the same.
Going from 204 to 243 would probably make the mouths too thin.
A 6 x 45 Imp would do pretty well too and lots of cases, but you will need to fireform, no biggee IMO.
Edited by HawkI (07/04/08 12:43 PM)
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#2292499 - 07/04/08 04:38 PM
Re: 223AI vs. 6x47 Rem ?
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How about the 6x45? Uses .223 brass.
If I had a rifle with a .378 bolt face I'd go with a 6mm but I'm starting to lean to the 6mm for everything except the big stuff than it's 6.5mm.
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#2292592 - 07/04/08 05:53 PM
Re: 223AI vs. 6x47 Rem ?
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For a light 6, I'd be leaning 6mmBR.
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#2293053 - 07/05/08 03:57 AM
Re: 223AI vs. 6x47 Rem ?
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Some pretty exotic chamberings for a 200 yard deer...how tough are they in your area?
I'd be more inclined to load down a 308 or 243 class round with a lighter bullet if I needed less recoil... a standard 223 will do the job, or a 762x39...putting a 6mm bullet in a small case just lowers the velocity...how is that any advantage?
But a 223 with a 52 tsx is an effective game round out of all proportion to it's size, way past 200 yards.. it won't stay inside a deer at 200 yards and has plenty of velocity to boot.
An M7 is definitely in the running for light and handy...but why even use a 308 class action for a small round... that little CZ Mini Mauser is smaller and lighter...it's a good quality handy little rifle right out of the box.
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#2293099 - 07/05/08 05:17 AM
Re: 223AI vs. 6x47 Rem ?
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Absolutely nothing wrong with a 6x47. The one I had was a sweetheart to shoot, and was accurate. If I do one today, I'll be shooting 68 grain bullets in it. And, I have a barrel begging for a 6x47 chamber.
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#2294002 - 07/05/08 05:52 PM
Re: 223AI vs. 6x47 Rem ?
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Why are you leaning toward the 6's on the .378" bf?
Because I'm liking 6's and if I had rifle with a .378 bolt face I'd go with a 6x47 or 6x45 with a repeater. Should work fine to 300 yards.
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#2295154 - 07/06/08 02:27 PM
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Of the two calibers you'er interested in. I would go with the 6x47. Little bigger hole, More bullet weight, and you could use it in states with caliber restictions. 358mt
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#2295805 - 07/06/08 08:55 PM
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6mmAR if you have access to something with a 0.445 bolt face. A Remington 799 or CZ-527 makes a great starting point.
http://6mmar.com/
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#2296600 - 07/07/08 11:48 AM
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I was actually thinking along the same lines. But I was leaning more towards a 7mm T/CU or 250 myself. To me it just depends on the donor rifle I find.
So what case is the 6mm Ar based off of?
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#2296771 - 07/07/08 01:12 PM
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#2297594 - 07/07/08 08:54 PM
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Why not just build a 6mm-204 (6x47mm IMP 30degree). I'm the guy with the 25-204. My 6mm-204 barrel should be here at the end of the week.
With the 6mm-204 it's just a mater of necking up the 204 Ruger case trim and load. You should get about 100fps over the 6x47.
I've been playing with the 204 case and am running a 22-204 and 25-204 now and the I just had to do a 6mm on it also.
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#2297597 - 07/07/08 08:58 PM
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Why not just build a 6mm-204 (6x47mm IMP 30degree). I'm the guy with the 25-204. My 6mm-204 barrel should be here at the end of the week.
With the 6mm-204 it's just a mater of necking up the 204 Ruger case trim and load. You should get about 100fps over the 6x47.
I've been playing with the 204 case and am running a 22-204 and 25-204 now and the I just had to do a 6mm on it also.
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#2297894 - 07/08/08 06:10 AM
Re: 223AI vs. 6x47 Rem ?
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I like the thought of the 25-204 or 25 Copperhead. How do you like yours?? Have though time and again what to do on that case, and keep coming back to the 25. Personally, if I'm going to a 6mm, whether for hunting or what-not, I'd go PPC and forget the rest.
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