#2357191 - 08/07/08 12:15 PM
SxS - Single or Double Triggers?
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John_G
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I would like to get a nice sxs 20 gauge for upland birds and was looking at CZ's and Franchi's the other day. I'm not sure which trigger system I'd prefer, though, as each seems to have its own +'s and -'s. What's the feeling of you experienced sxs shooters? Which do you prefer and why? Is one considered to be better or more desirable than the other? What about the reliability/ruggedness of them? Any help would be appreciated.
I also noticed that one design seems to go with a pistol grip and the other with a straight, English-style stock. Is there a reason for this?
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#2357225 - 08/07/08 12:33 PM
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I like double triggers on a SxS, with a straight, English style stock, and a splinter forearm. It's just a personal preference with me. I don't know if one is 'better' than the other; the above set-up is more desirable to me just because I like it better...it looks better, and feels better, to me. I think, in quality guns, reliability and ruggedness wouldn't differ between the classic set-up above, compared to those with pistol grips, single triggers, and beavertail forearms. Good luck with your choice. Pick what you like, what feels best to you, and what looks best to you. Good SxS are a pleasure to own, and carry in the field.
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#2357460 - 08/07/08 02:24 PM
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I agree: double triggers and splinter forearm, but I do NOT like the straight, English stock. I have small hands, and despite my attempts otherwise, I always end up pulling the back trigger on a double trigger gun in a "surprise flush" field situation. So, for me, it is double triggers...pistol grip stock...and splinter forearm!
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#2357928 - 08/07/08 06:34 PM
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I also prefer double triggers - cause thats the way I started out as a kid shooting my Uncle Jesse's old SxS Springfield 5100 12 gauge. I have owned a couple of O/U shotguns equipped with single triggers and they worked just fine (two Browning Citori's and a Winchester 101). Might be my early training or just plain preference, but my trigger finger gets onto the trigger I want just fine without doing any excessive thinking when I am hunting. Really makes no difference - it is truly a preference kind of choice.
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#2357931 - 08/07/08 06:35 PM
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Make mine 2.
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#2358009 - 08/07/08 07:13 PM
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I liked the SXS 20 straight grip double trigger on the left so much that I bought another one! Why do we do this?
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#2358140 - 08/07/08 08:10 PM
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Great looking set of twins you have their savage. I also started with double trigger as a young kid. I then bought an over an under with one trigger and though it took time it is a pretty seemless transition. I still shoot both and have no problems with either. However on cold duck hunting days I seem to go with the single trigger as the doubles are a bit more difficult if you are wearing a thicker winter glove.
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#2358408 - 08/08/08 03:39 AM
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I like the single trigger.
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#2358660 - 08/08/08 07:25 AM
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Side by each = double trigger, O/U = single. I hunt with sxs`s, and shoot targets with O/U. I don`t like ejectors on my hunting guns, especialy in a duck blind. ( because I reload)
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#2358875 - 08/08/08 09:46 AM
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My wifw bought me the CZ Ringneck for a Father's Day present in 16 ga. I have yet to see it, as I am still in Iraq, I hope it is all it looks to be in the pictures. SxS, single trigger, splinter forearm. Never owned but one, and it was a Savage 311 in 20 ga. It was so long ago, I can't remember if I liked it or not!!!
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#2358921 - 08/08/08 10:15 AM
Re: SxS - Single or Double Triggers?
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Thanks, guys - I'm paying close attention. I get that the double trigger allows you to more quickly choose barrels, but some of it has to be chalked up to tradition, too. If the double trigger were that much more convenient you'd see them on O/U guns, and you seldom do. Yes?
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#2358976 - 08/08/08 10:39 AM
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I prefer the double triggers and both my SxS's and OU's have 2 triggers. I avoided 2 trigger guns like the plague for years because I learned to shoot with a semi auto and had it in my head that the 2 triggers would be slow and cumbersome. A few years back I bought a old marlin model 90 OU with 2 triggers, and I was immediately converted.
The added bonus is that 2 trigger guns can usually be bought at a discount especially when buying OU's. I also found that ejectors are totally unnecessary and would just as soon have plain extractors.
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#2359284 - 08/08/08 01:46 PM
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Double triggers and extractors are my preference.
A single trigger on a SxS is like putting an automatic in a Corvette, just doesn't make sense to me
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#2364350 - 08/11/08 01:45 PM
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Really, it's all personal preference. If you're going to shoot more clay targets than targets with feathers, then you'll probably like single triggers better; who knows, you may like single triggers better for winged targets as well.
In the field, most find double triggers to be much easier to use than a barrel selector, which is next to impossible to manipulate with a pheasant in the air. A double trigger make barrel selection instant.
One piece of advice though; unless it's a high quality double, stick with the double trigger. Single triggers can be made extremely reliable, but it takes a maker willing to do things right, and you don't find that on a bargain gun.
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#2377722 - 08/18/08 04:33 PM
Re: SxS - Single or Double Triggers?
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Upfront, I'm a double trigger man. One trigger for each barrel. Less things to go wrong. I can't count the times when I went to the back trigger first and was glad I didn't need to mess with some selector switch. Invariably, if you need to go to a back trigger, it's like "RIGHT NOW", not in a moment, "NOW"! I can clearly see that So Dakota Sharpie which got up at 35+ yds and was crossing hard right to left and I didn't even hesitate as I brought that gun up, swinging from behind, thru, and slap! Back trigger! No hesitation in my thought process nor my mount/swing. No fiddling around to break my concentration; total lazer focus.
In layman's terms, the straight or POW (Prince of Wales) pistol grip facilitates sliding the hand fore or aft to help slap the correct trigger.
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#2379128 - 08/19/08 11:31 AM
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Mostly it's a case of personal preference.....but there are some theoretical advantages to the different types of stocks and triggers on doubles.
For very fast shooting (flushing quail and such) the double trigger and straight stock are a bit easier to use. The double triggers give instant selection of chokes without having to think about and engage a selector......not a small thing when a bird is rapidly headed for the hills. The straight stock is prefered for the same reason.....while not as precise as a pistol grip, it is much more forgiving as to hand placement and makes for fast shooting. The straight grip also makes it easier to manipulate the two triggers. Splinter style forearms also are less precise than a beavertail style, but more forgiving of hand placement when the shooting is very fast.
The single, selective trigger (nothing is more worthless than a single, non-selective trigger)and pistol grip is normally used where the shooting is a bit more deliberate and speed is not as big an issue. Target shooting and waterfowl shooting come to mind......where the shot is planned and anticipated as opposed to a surprize flush under your feet. The added precision of the pistol grip makes this just a bit more accurate even if slower.
The single trigger has no real advantage except possibly a bit of added precision due to the constant positioning of the hand, but is prefered by many American shooters because most Americans grew up shooting pump and semi-auto guns. It just feels more familiar and comfortable for those not raised on doubles.
The semi-pistol grips found on many older doubles such as L.C. smith and A.H. Fox guns are sort of a compromise. They are open enough to make the manipulation of double triggers comfortable, yet have enough curve to also add a bit of precision.
One note too......the double triggers (particularly in a sidelock gun) are much more reliable than any single trigger because you basically have two single-shot guns on one frame. If one trigger should fail in the field, you still have a single barrel working. This is not true of single trigger guns, particularly those which switch barrels by recoil rather than mechanical means.
That's why you will almost never see a single trigger on double rifles. When an angry beast is bearing down on you with unfriendly intentions.......it's a damn poor time to find that the gun won't fire. With double triggers, you just pull the other one and it is very unlikely that both will fail at the same time.
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#2380761 - 08/20/08 08:40 AM
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I shoot lots of different shotguns and prefer double triggers on SxS. Never had it be any kind of problem, even with pistol grip and beavertail.
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