#2472007 - 10/02/08 07:37 AM
Berger bullets -VLD THICK
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Bend
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I posted this in the reloading-varmint section because it did not seem to fit in any other reloading section.
Anywho-
Berget now has thick jacket VLD's in at least 6.5mm and 7mm.
See here under "Products-long range".
For anyone that has overspun Berger's origional VLD's to distruction as I have, this is a good thing. I'll have to give them another try.
Edited by Bend (10/02/08 09:01 AM)
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#2497551 - 10/13/08 03:11 PM
Re: Berger bullets -VLD THICK
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Bend, would this bullet still be considered at long range hunting bullet?
It is not listed with the hunting bullets, so I assume that these are not hunting bullets?
My 1:7.5 twist at 3000fps shoots great, how fast do you have to push for destruction? I have read this elsewhere as well, very interesting.
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#2500303 - 10/14/08 06:38 PM
Re: Berger bullets -VLD THICK
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Berger does not recommend the THICK for hunting. Seems it does not expand like the regular VLD and SMK's due to a thicker jacket.
I have overspun Berger 6.5mm 140g VLD's at 3100 fps and 6.5mm 142g SMK's at 3250 fps with a 1:8 twist, 28 inch PacNor barrel in 264 Winmag.
Here is an in-depth discussion at Benchrest.
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#2526770 - 10/26/08 06:58 AM
Re: Berger bullets -VLD THICK
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Berger does not recommend the THICK for hunting. Seems it does not expand like the regular VLD and SMK's due to a thicker jacket. I have overspun Berger 6.5mm 140g VLD's at 3100 fps and 6.5mm 142g SMK's at 3250 fps with a 1:8 twist, 28 inch PacNor barrel in 264 Winmag. Here is an in-depth discussion at Benchrest.
Bend,
You were right that was an in-depth discussion,very interesting and informative.
One thing that they never really touched on was number of lands and groove's , just from my own experience every bullet failure that I have had personally has been with a 3 groove barrel and all but 1 barrel has been a Pac-Nor. from reading this discussion on Benchrest I'm thinking that the wider land of the 3 groove is causing more friction thus causing more heat.
The one thing I know for sure is that I will stay with 5 or 6 groove barrel's if they are a fast twist for VLD bullet's.
B
wish they would make a 6mm 105gr VLDthick or the 338 VLD they have been promising for a few years.
btw is your 264WM a 3 groove ?
Edited by boatanchor (10/26/08 07:12 AM)
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#2546475 - 11/03/08 09:16 AM
Re: Berger bullets -VLD THICK
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Sorry to take so long to get back to you. Yes, my PacNor is a three grover. It might be the problem but I doubt it. The amount of surface contact of the lands on a bullet are near the same for all land/grove ratios. A more likely reason would be the new mix of fast twist rates, heavy for cal bullets (long), long barrels and the slowest powders for a longer amount of "barrel time" enabling friction heat to build enough to cause failure. But, heck, I'd still be guessing.
Edited by Bend (11/03/08 08:49 PM)
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