#2484043 - 10/07/08 05:43 PM
Coyote hunting with the 17HMR?
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Has any one done it? Do you think its a good choice for coyotes? And at what range?
thanks randy......
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#2484106 - 10/07/08 06:15 PM
Re: Coyote hunting with the 17HMR?
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I've done it. No..... Close as possible......
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#2484211 - 10/07/08 07:01 PM
Re: Coyote hunting with the 17HMR?
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Gmoney
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Just listen to VarmintGuy when he chimes in...
I've ran it through the gamut.
It is a bad choice for coyotes.
No range will provide you with 100% kills unless you hit them in the head everytime. This is not a plausable outcome.
Upgrade to at least a centerfire of some sort...
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#2484246 - 10/07/08 07:12 PM
Re: Coyote hunting with the 17HMR?
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firstcoueswas80
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Hell sometimes when you hit them in the head, youll give them nothing more than a headache!
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#2484305 - 10/07/08 07:35 PM
Re: Coyote hunting with the 17HMR?
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It is. Until you start losing them....... Just wait till they are close enuff the see the whites of their eyes, and put one of those 17 grainers betwixt 'em........
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#2484355 - 10/07/08 07:50 PM
Re: Coyote hunting with the 17HMR?
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Hell sometimes when you hit them in the head, youll give them nothing more than a headache!
I only said it this way b/c folks validate a cartridge's merit on shot placement to the head...
Not a very good "field" test if you will...
I've got some footage of a boar coon 17 HMR'ed. He was laughing at it as I kept hitting him with it...
Anybody who kills anything in a field setting to any degree or regularity knows it's a weakling...
Maybe ole VG will chime in with his "experiences"...
Get this monthly debate going again...Feeling feisty tonight...grin....
Edited by Gmoney (10/07/08 07:59 PM)
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#2484381 - 10/07/08 08:00 PM
Re: Coyote hunting with the 17HMR?
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huntsman22
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I've got some footage of a boar coon 17 HMR'ed. He was laughing at it as I kept hitting him with it...
Jeez, Greg, Everybuddy knows boar coons are tuffer than a cuddly puppy......
I wish I had video of one old boar that I tried to kill......He about ate my lunch, after I shish-kabob'd him with a pitchfork in a grain barrel.
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#2484392 - 10/07/08 08:04 PM
Re: Coyote hunting with the 17HMR?
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Gmoney
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Back in my younger years we ran an HMR for a couple seasons. We average roughly 300 fox/season let alone coyotes/cats/ and ringtails so it got run through the gamut. You learn real quick. Course this was probably 8 years or so ago.
Pound for pound I'd put a boar coon up against anything...
You gonna make it to the Huntmasters hunt? Is that this weekend?
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#2484435 - 10/07/08 08:23 PM
Re: Coyote hunting with the 17HMR?
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Don't know what that hunt is......But, Nope, I leave to chouse elks Friday........
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#2484918 - 10/08/08 05:02 AM
Re: Coyote hunting with the 17HMR?
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Gmoney
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Okay nevermind then...
Good luck chasing them big boys...
I still have to wait 4 weeks...
Getting mighty restless...
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#2489526 - 10/10/08 05:38 AM
Re: Coyote hunting with the 17HMR?
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I apologize for me guessing. I was 1 year off. "8 years or so ago" suggests I was making an approximate guess. Something I don't have to guess on, not nearly so, is the topic at hand.
However, while my 8 years may not have been correct, 7 years is as I had access to the round and guns before the public did. Gunwriters as friends have their benefits. Ask me when I started running a .204 Ruger?
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you corrected me in the manner you did as a public benefit for me spreading false public information on a hunting board rather than you correcting me due to being VarmintGuys friend or that you shoot a 17 HMR at coyotes.
Edited by Gmoney (10/10/08 05:39 AM)
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#2489562 - 10/10/08 05:54 AM
Re: Coyote hunting with the 17HMR?
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[/quote]
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you corrected me in the manner you did as a public benefit for me spreading false public information on a hunting board rather than you correcting me due to being VarmintGuys friend or that you shoot a 17 HMR at coyotes. [/quote]
I just wanted to set the facts straight. My correction of you has not one thing to do with any other poster on this forum or any cartridge I may or may not use on Coyotes.
You wrote the post I questioned.
The facts are what they are. 
Edited by jim62 (10/10/08 06:05 AM)
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#2489638 - 10/10/08 06:40 AM
Re: Coyote hunting with the 17HMR?
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Fair enough...
Good to hear...
Take care...
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#2490076 - 10/10/08 10:11 AM
Re: Coyote hunting with the 17HMR?
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STA: Yes in fact I have killed Coyotes with my 17 HMR Rifle!
It can be done and done easily by a competent Rifleman and patient Hunter!
Those lacking in these attributes will try to denigrate the 17 HMR!
I have an area in Montana that is absolutely over-run with Coyotes, mainly because it is so remote.
When I venture to this area each fall for Deer/Elk Hunting I always take my 17 HMR along to thin the Coyotes out with. The exceedingly mild report of the 17 HMR won't run the mature Mulie Bucks out of the country like a centerfire Rifle will.
I have yet to need to shoot a Coyote TWICE with a 17 HMR round!
Again is Riflemanship, shot placement and attention to ranging the target and you can be quite successful on Coyotes with the 17 HMR.
The 17 HMR is a DANDY Fox cartridge by the way. I have several ranches near my home in SW Montana that only allow rimfires for Varminting. They are full of Fox and the 17 HMR is fur friendly as well. A number of my cronies love to use the 17 HMR on Foxes.
DON'T let anyone tell you the 17 HMR bullet will not kill a Coyote - I know better - I've done it!
Where distances will commonly be longer and the Coyotes more "cagey" than the area I Hunt them each fall then you are probably better off with a centerfire.
I have killed a number of Raccoons and several BIG Procupines with my 17 HMR's! I don't recall a one needing a second shot!
Again Riflemanship and shot placement are critical - those not possessing those skills are bound to failure and dis-satisfaction (albeit the dis-satisfaction is missplaced!).
Those type shortcomings are correctable by anyone intelligent enough to be able to concentrate and attain some intensity of endeavour! Easily so in fact!
I would NOT buy a 17 HMR Rifle solely for it to be my lone Coyote Rifle - if that is what you are contemplating!
But the 17 HMR has killed plenty of Coyotes and will continue to do so in the future despite what some who are lacking in certain skills may parlay (compound!) to you!
The 17 HMR is a splendid round for many types of Varminting. Be smart enough to learn its strengths and weaknesses and you can have a lot of rewarding fun with it!
Long live the 17 HMR!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
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#2490921 - 10/10/08 06:18 PM
Re: Coyote hunting with the 17HMR?
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..Shooting Coyotes with a .17 is akin to using a 223 on deer. It certainly will kill with a clean shot in the vitals, but my personal respect for our game animals (in this case varmits included) prompts me to seek a caliber with more wallop to provide a margin of increased lethality in the case wind, or the sudden movement of the quarry, alters shot placement by an inch or so to either side of the intended point of impact. I believe such is the more humane approach than choosing minimal calibers.
....By the way , inference that any outdoorsman who'd advise against minimal caliber choices indicates a poor shot , or unskilled rifleman, is simply not accurate. I'm a seasoned shooter, and in former years killed a good number of deer, and small game, with moving shots. I've killed many deer with spine and neck shots too. I no longer feel comfortable taking such shots, having witnessed several of those shots result in the animal running as much as a hundred yards because of a shot just inches errant. As I've matured, my respect for my quarry has matured as well! I've been blessed by GOD to have never lost an animal that I've shot, I'll do all I can to keep that record, and insure the most humane taking of life that I can through my choices of what shots to take, and what caliber, load, and bullet to use on the game of choice.
.....Please understand that this is posted not to impune other men's choices, so much as to honestly express my own.
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#2491754 - 10/11/08 05:41 AM
Re: Coyote hunting with the 17HMR?
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Some of the better shots here in Idaho are hunting elk with pellet guns.
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