#2490495 - 10/10/08 01:52 PM
.300 Designer?
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Elk
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Does anyone know who exactly designed the .300 Savage? As far as I can find, Charles Newton did not. Did Arthur Savage personally design it?
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#2490683 - 10/10/08 03:56 PM
Re: .300 Designer?
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Rick99
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Cartridges of the World states that it was developed by Savage Corp.
Arthur had left the company long before the .300 came out.
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#2494231 - 10/12/08 07:03 AM
Re: .300 Designer?
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303mike
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I can't find any more detailed notes on the origin of the .300 Savage either, just that it was designed by Savage Corp. for both the 1899 and their new Model 20 bolt action. Even so, the .300 Savage has its outstanding moments in shooting history. It is still our most efficient .30 caliber, delivering the most velocity and energy, what I like to call "bounce to the ounce," for the amount of powder it uses to do it. F. C. Ness, in his book Practical Dope On The Big Bores says the .300 Savage is capable of putting 25 shots into a 4" circle at 200 yards, fired from a machine rest. Also, when our armed forces were developing the 7.62 NATO cartridge, the .308, the .300 Savage was given a lot of consideration. The thought was that the .300's sharp shoulder would give it problems in automatic fire, full-auto that is. A number of rifles, M-14 predecessors, were made for the .300 Savage and none of them gave any problems. Even so, the .308 was born and it was made by starting the shoulder of the case at the same length along the body of the case as the .300 Savage but giving it the same shoulder angle as the .30-06. And, of course, the .308 has a longer neck. The .308 does out perform the .300 Savage but only at much higher pressures. I still have a "military load" for the .300 Savage, one of those that was made for the NATO testing. Just thought I'd add some gas to the words about the good ol' .300. I got my first deer with a .300 Savage (Model 81 Remington) and it continues to be a favorite. 303mike
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#2494852 - 10/12/08 12:14 PM
Re: .300 Designer?
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no such thing as a "savage collection" without a 300 ..... period.
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#2494898 - 10/12/08 12:48 PM
Re: .300 Designer?
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I suspect that the 300 savage is a sporter model of the 7.65x53 that was chambered in the 1891 Mauser and others...
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#2494980 - 10/12/08 01:49 PM
Re: .300 Designer?
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djs
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It is interesting that several of the oldest cartridges (7X57, 8X57, 30-06 and the 300 Savage) each over 100 years old, are still modern in performance and are the standards by which other cartridges are judged! Somebody did something right in the age before computers and electroinics!
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