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#627937 - 12/04/05 06:40 PM Re: Marlin 1894 or Ruger Model 96 in .44 Mag???
cowchip Offline
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Registered: 07/07/03
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Loc: San Antonio, Texas
Howdy! I have a Ruger 96/44 and love it. I haven't heard about the mags breaking before reading this post. I don't have any experience with the Marlin 1894. But, if want a "real lever gun" go with the Marlin. But the Ruger is a nice shootin' rifle. Buy both!!!! It's only money. Good Luck.

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#627938 - 12/05/05 05:46 AM Re: Marlin 1894 or Ruger Model 96 in .44 Mag???
Stetson Offline
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The Marlin doesn't do very well with heavier bullets on the micro-groove barrel because of the lousy twist rate. If you want a Marlin and you want to shoot heavy hardcast try to find a Cowboy 2 model with the Ballard rifeling. They no longer make them but there are a lot of new ones still floating around in gun shops. Est $550-600

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#627939 - 12/06/05 07:34 AM Re: Marlin 1894 or Ruger Model 96 in .44 Mag???
NathanaelGreene Offline
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Registered: 06/16/05
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New Marlin 1894's have Ballard rifling, or so it says on the Marlin site: http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firearms/1894_centerfireRifles/1894.htm

My 1894C's (.357 magnum) have Ballard rifling.

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#627940 - 12/06/05 08:02 AM Re: Marlin 1894 or Ruger Model 96 in .44 Mag???
Stetson Offline
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There are about a gazillion new 1894's out there in gun shops with the micro groove barrel. Just know what your lookin for. In either event the 1/38 twist rate on the new Marlins will never reliably stabelize a bullet over 300 grains. I believe the Cowboy 2 model that Marlin put out had a 1/20 twist rate with ballard rifeling. This is the model you want if you want to primarily shoot hard cast bullets over 300 grains or at least a faster twist rate with the ballard rifeling.

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#627941 - 12/06/05 11:08 AM Re: Marlin 1894 or Ruger Model 96 in .44 Mag???
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Registered: 02/13/04
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My standard 1894SS shoots 300 grain Fed Cast Core's real well. I think somepeople need to slug the barrel to find out what works for their particular rifle but I haven't found what you said to be anymore true with jacketed. Some rifles do shoot better than others whether jacketed or cast. Although that is something that has followed it around for a long time many people don't find that to be the case.
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#627942 - 12/06/05 12:13 PM Re: Marlin 1894 or Ruger Model 96 in .44 Mag???
Stetson Offline
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I'm not sure what slugging the bore really accomplishes. Mine is .432 and oversize hard casts don't shoot any better than standard .430 once you get over 300 grains. You cant change the twist rate by slugging the bore. I guess it depends on the gun and what distance you shoot at. I'm sure there might be a few 44's with a 1/38 twist that would shoot over 300 grains well but I certainly wouldn't buy a new one counting on it. If you only shoot 50 yards then its all a pretty moot point. At 100 things start to open up quit a bit.

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#627943 - 12/09/05 06:08 AM Re: Marlin 1894 or Ruger Model 96 in .44 Mag???
Mak Offline
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Registered: 08/16/05
Posts: 509
Ruger could hv done much better w/their gun.
Inspired by Savage 99, but on the cheap. Can be accurate, always is ugly.
Not bad for its intent, no real advantage over Marlin.
Marlin #1 ease of maintenence, quality fit n finish.
Microgroove just fine for JSP/JHP. Ballard preferred for shootin lead pills.
1894 n 96 limited by action length, no real problem for most purposes, if need super heavyweights best get 45-70, 450M, even 444 better choice.
Slow twist no problem if bullet is driven fast enuff.
If need fast twist look at Winchester scout in .44mag.
Good Shootin

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#627944 - 12/20/05 07:53 AM Re: Marlin 1894 or Ruger Model 96 in .44 Mag???
ought6 Offline
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Registered: 05/08/05
Posts: 315
Loc: Georgia
I never had a Marlin Lever that wouldn't shoot close to or even better than a bolt gun. I've had several Ruger rifles that wouldn't shoot as well as I'd need.
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#627945 - 12/22/05 11:21 AM Re: Marlin 1894 or Ruger Model 96 in .44 Mag???
RLB Offline
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Registered: 09/18/05
Posts: 240
Loc: Dallas Texas
forget the marlin or ruger there both great guns but.....if you want t oshoot over 300gr. with ballard riflings then buy a winchester trapper or puma 92....
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#627946 - 12/22/05 11:43 AM Re: Marlin 1894 or Ruger Model 96 in .44 Mag???
Stetson Offline
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You must have some lousy bolt guns! Ive had some decent levers but no way are they going to consistantly shoot sub-moa at 100 yards.
I dont see the trapper as a very good option for 300 plus grain pills. The twist in the winchester is only marginally better than the Marlin and the trigger is worse. Plus your going to loose any extra ooomph by shooting those high end loads out of a super short barrel.

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