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My two favorite whitetail hunting cartridges, and I don't think there is any practical difference between the two for hunting light, big game. Like the S&W M27-2 and the Colt Python - both so good you really need one of each to end fretting about the "which is best" question. That's simple, the Python. kwg
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What is the .270's claim to fame? Most commercially successful (not military) high velocity cartridge designed for BG hunting and suited to bolt action rifles. It didn't have the help of cheap surplus rifles, Uncle Sam, or abundant surplus ammo to make it popular(unlike the 30/06, 308,and 223,7x57 etc etc. All these were government sponsored, tax payer supplemented cartridges). OTOH the 270 had to earn its popularity the hard way.....in the hunting fields in the hands of BG hunters who actually paid out of their own pockets to use it. Guess they liked it....a few million BG animals later that is....  Ushered in the light bullet/high velocity/moderate recoil trend that so many cartridges emulate today( Whether most realize it or not,much cartridge development sought to do nothing more than equal the ballistic performance of the 270. Count 'em and weep.....  Most got run into the dust bin by the 270). Used successfully on every major continent and about every major species of BG pretty much world wide.. Light rifles, light recoil,flat shooting (effective about as far as 98% of BG hunters have any business shooting at anything living),ample killing power and sufficient for about anything. Millions of rifles, millions of rounds of ammo, millions of dead animals....literally. What's its claim to fame? Kidding right!? Why would anyone bother asking the question.... 
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Sleek hunting bullets maximizing speed vs. BC for shots inside 400yds:
270 Win - 130gr E-tip with .459 BC at 3,100fps
308 Win - 150gr E-tip with .469 BC at 2,950fps
There's really not that much difference there downrange. Methinks you're cherry picking a little there. Compare any other comparable 130gr 270 to 150gr 30cal, and the BC advantage goes to the 270. Not sure why the etip would be different? Also would say it's probably easier to get to 3100 with a 130/270, than it is to get to 2950 with a 150/308. Comparable factory ammo is 3060 fps for the 130/270 versus 2820 for the 150/308.
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What is the .270's claim to fame? Most commercially successful (not military) high velocity cartridge designed for BG hunting and suited to bolt action rifles. It didn't have the help of cheap surplus rifles, Uncle Sam, or abundant surplus ammo to make it popular(unlike the 30/06, 308,and 223,7x57 etc etc. All these were government sponsored, tax payer supplemented cartridges). OTOH the 270 had to earn its popularity the hard way.....in the hunting fields in the hands of BG hunters who actually paid out of their own pockets to use it. Guess they liked it....a few million BG animals later that is.... Ushered in the light bullet/high velocity/moderate recoil trend that so many cartridges emulate today( Whether most realize it or not,much cartridge development sought to do nothing more than equal the ballistic performance of the 270. Count 'em and weep..... Most got run into the dust bin by the 270). Used successfully on every major continent and about every major species of BG pretty much world wide.. Light rifles, light recoil,flat shooting (effective about as far as 98% of BG hunters have any business shooting at anything living),ample killing power and sufficient for about anything. Millions of rifles, millions of rounds of ammo, millions of dead animals....literally. What's its claim to fame? Kidding right!? Why would anyone bother asking the question.... Talk about pizzing in someone's cereal huh Bob. Earlier today, as I was driving home from work, I was thinking I've never shot any big game animal with my 270. Does that mean I still have my man card???
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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bsa: Not pissing. Those are all facts. 
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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308 all the way...........
270 is way gay.................
T R U M P W O N !
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I like my 270. I'm glad I bought it and glad my buddies talked me into buying it...  . Now I just need to use the damn thing!!!
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Bob's answer is spot on.
Right now I have four BG rifles... two 308's and two 270's. Personally I think they're equivalent on game, with the nod going to the 308 for frugality of powder consumption and barrel life, and likely to accuracy (across a wiiide sample). I also prefer SA's to LA's, so my favorite is the 308... but the 270 is a helluva a cartridge.
Either is fine for any of the game found here in Montana...
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308 all the way...........
270 is way gay.................
Define "way gay" for me in English......thanks.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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308 all the way...........
270 is way gay.................
Define "way gay" for me in English......thanks. That's to distinguish from "a little" gay...... like "a little pregnant" !!   Really tho, it's for those who don't know any better or have anything beneficial to add. Jerry
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What is the .270's claim to fame?<P>Wizard Surely you jest (joke) ! If you're not joking, you must be a novice BUT you are familiar with JOC's use, so that doesn't add up. So, BobnNH has given multiple correct answers. Jerry
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308 all the way...........
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That's sorta amazes me. I had a Ruger UL 308, 20" bll. I hunted and killed deer with it. It was my 2nd (second) really lightweight rifle. I loved hunting it in 'woods'. I can't remember how long it's been since I sold it..... I haven't missed it one day!! I guess it's a personal preference thing. Jerry
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Why bring back a 15 year old thread? No kidding! What dumb feuck thought that old thread was so interesting that he/she couldn't just start another?
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I'd say take your pick.... I can hear that DirecTV Comercial with Bonjovi now
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Why bring back a 15 year old thread? No kidding! What dumb feuck thought that old thread was so interesting that he/she couldn't just start another? Did someone force you to read it?
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Why bring back a 15 year old thread? No kidding! What dumb feuck thought that old thread was so interesting that he/she couldn't just start another? Chumming for idiots. Careful, the hooks are sharp....
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270 is a flat shooter. Love mine.
308 is better choice for someone who shoots paper a lot.
I prefer the 06 for hunting. This^^^^^^ Agreed.
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Why bring back a 15 year old thread? No kidding! What dumb feuck thought that old thread was so interesting that he/she couldn't just start another? Chumming for idiots. Careful, the hooks are sharp.... The current responder probably didn't notice the date but regardless, the question remains as pertinent now as it was back then. No reason to start another other than personal preference.
Coyote Hunter - NRA Patriot Life, NRA Whittington Center Life, GOA, DAD - and I VOTE!
No, I'm not a Ruger bigot - just an unabashed fan of their revolvers, M77's and #1's.
A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.
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