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They've been all scrapped now ugggggh anger building...... I hate to hear that.
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A quick search using Google suggests that the Graf Spee had the Seetakt radar system installed for ranging..
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It is all Lies! Vee dit not moof here!
When a country is well governed, poverty and a mean condition are something to be ashamed of. When a country is ill governed, riches and honors are something to be ashamed of
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Well yeah, after the war. But if you read the history of Argentina, you'll see that even way back before that they were getting tons of European immigration - folks finding (relatively...) good opportunities for personal/economic freedom.
Peron fixed all that, though.
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Both of those points are spot on. The European underclass immigrated to Argentina just as they did to the US in big numbers before and after WW1. Many Italians came, and in the '30s they brought Mussolini's brand of Fascist Socialism with them. Peron adopted it and used rhetoric and give aways to hoodwink the lower class into keeping him in power. The template stands today.
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
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Peron fixed it....oh, yass he did. And Evita. Sheesh, what a waste of a great country.
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They've been all scrapped now ugggggh anger building...... I hate to hear that. Out of service yes..But not all scrapped. If you want to see a Des Moines class crusier, Salem is a Museum up in Boston. In my mind the DesMoines were the finest heavy cruisers ever built. Fine ships, but they take such huge crews they were doomed.
The collection of taxes which are not absolutely required, which do not beyond reasonable doubt contribute to public welfare, is only a species of legalized larceny. Under this Republic the rewards of industry belong to those who earn them. Coolidge
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I'm glad they saved at least one of them. Beautiful, well balanced ships and very big (18,000 tons) for a cruiser.
regarding Argentina, they are almost a mirror-image of the US when it comes to immigration and history with Spanish being the most obvious and key difference of course. That said, LOTS of Italian and German immigrants, rich in natural resources and like the US, they exterminated the native indian populations. They are also of course a lot smaller country and also unlike the US, the Protestant Work Ethic and Anglo-Saxon mores and values were not adopted, instead they went with the slower, Latin culture and it shows of course.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Dat's all good and well, but how did you get G V Black to take your pics?
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My great grandfather and family imigrated there from northern Italy well before the war.My paternal grandpa was born there and came to this country as a baby.His oldest son fought in Germany and Italy during WW2.I hope visit Argentina someday,I've always heard it's a beautiful country.
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i dated german girl name tina. she had big hands and smelled like cabbage.
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